Just flashed my first NAND ROM a gingerbread version I believe. Holy **** is my first impression. Amazing. Question is with the camcorder.
Do some NAND builds have a fully functioning camcorder, (The one on my build is very choppy) or are they all the same regardless of build?
Aside from camcorder this build (wish I remembered atm.) Is perfect!
Thanks
BARON
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I can't respond with much more knoweldge other then use regarding DFT's and CMLXGO, or whatever his user name is, roms. Both haave a working camcorder with no issue albiet no 720p recording. To my understanding there are no android builds for HD2 yet that support 720p recording.
Also camera quality and camcorder quality is amazing with both of these builds for a cell phone. I actualy bought this phone after seeing pictures from a stock HD2 from a friends phone at my wedding. Android carries true with the same functionality as winmo 6.5 in quality. Winmo 7 still leaves some to be desired though in both departments, but progress is fresh and young and I'm sure it will get better.
Ok I think you said that certain builds DO have a we'll functioning camcorder? I will try and find another build then.
Ideally still on gingerbread. Anyone have a particular Rom running gb with good functioning camcorder.
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Yes. Sorry for not being so clear. The two builds I have used have a perfectly working camcorder.
As for a Gingerbread build? Try this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060
I dabled with that one for a day or two but I prefer sense builds for my personal taste. If I remember correctly this rom has full camera functions.
Is their a sense version of gingerbread? do like sense but am enjoying the crap out if gb
I think I am on the build u posted but wont know for sure until I get back on PC.
I did see on that forum that can did work but only at low quality settings. Going to test that shortly.
I guess in general I want to make sure I'm getting the most of this hd2 . Just got it and coming from a tilt2.
Thanks for the help.
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If you want a sense camcorder that syncs the videos and audio correctly, and has good quality, get a desire build. The desire hd/z builds don't sync the audio and video correctly, atleast for me.
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People want summaries of the Android builds, so here we go:
1. For the most stable builds, pick the ones which are simpy Froyo 2.2 based, or based on the cyanogen mod (CM6) without sense, and are usually based on builds for the Google Nexus.
2. Then you have froyo + sense. now there are different versions of sense out there and froyo. you have the 'supersonic' over the air update which made it 2.2.1 versus the original 2.2. FRG** and FRF** denote different versions of android core.
Following that you have all the ones which are (usually) based on 2.2.1 android....BUT...the magical sauce is in the sense build they use. Unlike WM with 2018 and 2016 etc for sense we now have a few variants as defined by the phone they run on:
2a) Desire
2b) Evo (sense build: 3.29.651.5)
2c) Desire HD roms (sense build: 1.24.405.1)
2d) Desire Z (1.22.405.1)
2e) Lexicon ()
Lexicon seems to be a quick sense build, BUT things like compass and gsensor and camera dont seem to work.
Desire Z seems to be visually nicer, almost as nippy, much newer....but the font sizes are not optimised for the HD2 - the PPI is too low and fonts bigger - i.e. you see less on the screen at the time. same gsensor, camera and compass issues as above.
Desire HD builds are the biggest resource hogs...but nevertheless remain fast if you have a taskkiller and are visually the most stunning. same gsensor and compass and camera issues as above. Having used this more extensively I can also confirm that I get data disconnects (which plague all recent builds), but the HTC reader does not work, and the HTC locations/latitude does not work fully. HTC hub etc works fine tho.
Evo - more stable and more fully featured than any of the above, but not quite as quick nor as pretty. also font scaling not as good as on Desire HD rom. Data disconnects still on this build. Has voice activiation/dialing with long send key.
Desire - the oldest set of builds - or was it HTC ACE/bravo??/ I can't quite remember. very stable, but not very quick. I think this came with voice dialing activated with long send key.
I am using the Desire HD based mdeejay ROM 24/7 now. seems very good. I don't like the gmail email app tho...fortunately I dont need the camera. I get no music stuttering. BT works perfectly (stereo+mono), as does GPS. Voice search/commands work when you launch the app, but it does not seem to be triggered by a long send...can't remember if voice command works triggered from BT headset.
It does use more battery than WM - I barely get two days solid use whereas I used to get a solid 3 on WM only. I have installed setcpu and run it quite aggressively with my own settings to really get the most out of the battery. Without setcpu mdeejay's desire HD build would often run at 1138Mhz constantly.....
Also remember that not only do the builds differ in terms of Android build, and sense build (if included), but often come with different kernels - such as by hastarin, michyprima and the more stock ones based on the zimage database maintained by the htc-linux team. The kernel will usually determine what works and what doesn't.
Hope this helps.
Setcpu settings r same for rach build. Or u use different
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I run it much more aggressively than set in most builds. I use the conservative and powersave clock governor settings and have it staged at different battery %ages and whether the screen is on or off to adjust the min and max cpu speeds.
Nice summary man, thanks!
@chris_ah1
AWESOME!! This post is much appreciated! I am sure that this is the information many users were looking for and hopefully are willing to join this project!!
again: GREAT JOB!
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People want summaries of the Android builds, so here we go:
1. For the most stable builds, pick the ones which are simpy Froyo 2.2 based, or based on the cyanogen mod (CM6) without sense, and are usually based on builds for the Google Nexus.
2. Then you have froyo + sense. now there are different versions of sense out there and froyo. you have the 'supersonic' over the air update which made it 2.2.1 versus the original 2.2. FRG** and FRF** denote different versions of android core.
Following that you have all the ones which are (usually) based on 2.2.1 android....BUT...the magical sauce is in the sense build they use. Unlike WM with 2018 and 2016 etc for sense we now have a few variants as defined by the phone they run on:
2a) Desire
2b) Evo (sense build: 3.29.651.5)
2c) Desire HD roms (sense build: 1.24.405.1)
2d) Desire Z (1.22.405.1)
2e) Lexicon ()
Lexicon seems to be a quick sense build, BUT things like compass and gsensor and camera dont seem to work.
Desire Z seems to be visually nicer, almost as nippy, much newer....but the font sizes are not optimised for the HD2 - the PPI is too low and fonts bigger - i.e. you see less on the screen at the time. same gsensor, camera and compass issues as above.
Desire HD builds are the biggest resource hogs...but nevertheless remain fast if you have a taskkiller and are visually the most stunning. same gsensor and compass and camera issues as above. Having used this more extensively I can also confirm that I get data disconnects (which plague all recent builds), but the HTC reader does not work, and the HTC locations/latitude does not work fully. HTC hub etc works fine tho.
Evo - more stable and more fully featured than any of the above, but not quite as quick nor as pretty. also font scaling not as good as on Desire HD rom. Data disconnects still on this build. Has voice activiation/dialing with long send key.
Desire - the oldest set of builds - or was it HTC ACE/bravo??/ I can't quite remember. very stable, but not very quick. I think this came with voice dialing activated with long send key.
I am using the Desire HD based mdeejay ROM 24/7 now. seems very good. I don't like the gmail email app tho...fortunately I dont need the camera. I get no music stuttering. BT works perfectly (stereo+mono), as does GPS. Voice search/commands work when you launch the app, but it does not seem to be triggered by a long send...can't remember if voice command works triggered from BT headset.
It does use more battery than WM - I barely get two days solid use whereas I used to get a solid 3 on WM only. I have installed setcpu and run it quite aggressively.
Also remember that not only do the builds differ in terms of Android build, and sense build (if included), but often come with different kernels - such as by hastarin, michyprima and the more stock ones based on the zimage database maintained by the htc-linux team. The kernel will usually determine what works and what doesn't.
Hope this helps.
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Simply put: KERNEL is a model, different designer put different clothes on her, its still her.
We have two models, Nexus one base, and Evo base model
thanks for this summary!!! it is really helpfull info you provided here.
I will try mdeejay Desire HD build. Currently I have Darkstone Froyo Stone 3.1, but battery life is horrible for me. Even with Set Cpu, Task Killer and JuiceDefender I can't make a day... and I barely use my device during a day...
Thank-you! I've been going through builds like I'm bar-hopping on a Saturday nite. This will definitely help with settling down.
I'm looking for a working camera, minimal or skip-free music, yahoo mail linkability, and Facebook contact linking. Everything else I can compromise.
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Thank-you! I've been going through builds like I'm bar-hopping on a Saturday nite. This will definitely help with settling down.
I'm looking for a working camera, minimal or skip-free music, yahoo mail linkability, and Facebook contact linking. Everything else I can compromise.
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I'm not sure about yahoo mail, but everything else works on shubcraft
Thanks chris_ah1, nice breakdown of the builds. Simple and informative. Any volunteers to do the same for kernels? That'd be awesome!
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I'm not sure about yahoo mail, but everything else works on shubcraft
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Shubcraft? I'll check it out and report back. Thanks.
Edit: I forgot to mention, I want it to have Sense as well.
thanks a lot for this info!
Now this is clear, I hope the devs will kinda keep us informed about which version they're using
As I'm having serious battery issues (using setcpu and all) I'll try Froyo 2.2 or cyanogen mod.
Too bad there hasn't been an update to those builds lately
android.hd2roms.com !
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Thank-you! I've been going through builds like I'm bar-hopping on a Saturday nite. This will definitely help with settling down.
I'm looking for a working camera, minimal or skip-free music, yahoo mail linkability, and Facebook contact linking. Everything else I can compromise.
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Take a look at the Core Droid build! Very nice build with good batterylife (out of the box), great stability, almost fully working and sexy looks. Tried various sense builds, but this one i really recommend at the moment.
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you rock!
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android.hd2roms.com !
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genius, thankyou! its so much easier to take in. love it. its absolutely fantastic!
Thank You
thank you very much this a very informative and useful post
Thank-you! I've been going through builds like I'm bar-hopping on a Saturday nite. This will definitely help with settling down.
I'm looking for a working camera, minimal or skip-free music, yahoo mail linkability, and Facebook contact linking. Everything else I can compromise.
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-what do you mean by yahoomail linkability? I'm curious cause I'm only using yahoomail app for android.
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tnx for this handy overview
Please stick this. It finally answered my question about what is the difference between desire, desire hd, desire z and other base of roms. I was prepared to post a topic when I stumbled upon this.
Great guide.
hi,
i was wondering, now with all the android roms beeing published to xda
i'd realy like to know which rom is actualy the most recent, or the best, with the least errors and best to work
and another thing,
is it possible to delete windows from my phone and let my phone start directly from android, to avoid the long boot time?
@natihorny - Here's a link to TechBurrow's thread. There is a video/ links for what you need to do to flash your phone with Android and have it boot up directly to it without dealing with WM. I've yet to do this, as I'm still at work, but plan on giving it a try in the coming days.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894423
I would suggest that you dont use NAND builds yet they are far from perfect but instead you should use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847631 it is motomans black and blue build wich is by far the best sense android build even much better than any ram and nand build and as for winmo flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893438 and it will boot android just as fast as any nand build and you will never have problems with this setup
this is a very, very subjective thread. there is not "best" rom--it's all about what you're looking for in a rom. for example, vanilla froyo vs. desire vs. desire hd vs. miui vs. gingerbread. or sd vs. sd ram vs. nand.
personally, i'm a proponent of sd ram. i haven't actually used it long term, but it seems to be very fast (and based on darkstone, it's even faster than nand). especially with nand being very young in its development, i would stick to sd for now. plus, it's much easier to flash and fix in case you corrupt your rom somehow. there's a few out there (just look for "[SD] [RAM]" in the descriptions), but one i'd like to point out is darkstone's superram froyo. i'm kinda busy right now, but that's definitely the rom i'm going to be using and modding to my liking.
good luck and have fun flashing!
ok, thanks everyone for the helpfull answers,
i had still one other question and thats,
i just bought a new car with bluetooth function, though my cell phone and the bluetooth of the car don't connect like it should, (thats why i wanted an android with the least amount of problems) and i was wondering if the fact that the bluetooth is only visible 120 seconds may cause the problem.
wrecless said:
I would suggest that you dont use NAND builds yet they are far from perfect but instead you should use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847631 it is motomans black and blue build wich is by far the best sense android build even much better than any ram and nand build and as for winmo flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893438 and it will boot android just as fast as any nand build and you will never have problems with this setup
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i was wondering, in some of the android roms, you can choose skins from htc sense and have the htc market, and can download more htc backgrounds, sounds, etc. etc.
and now i have the rom you suggested, both for windows as for android which i'd like to use, but doesn't have that htc sense thing buildt in the android rom, how can i get it back?
natihorny said:
i was wondering, in some of the android roms, you can choose skins from htc sense and have the htc market, and can download more htc backgrounds, sounds, etc. etc.
and now i have the rom you suggested, both for windows as for android which i'd like to use, but doesn't have that htc sense thing buildt in the android rom, how can i get it back?
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The build you are speaking of is the desire hd. I didn't suggest that build because it is laggy and slow. Even after 10 restarts and 2 days of use it still laggs alot compared to the one I posted in B4. Take it from someone that has tried every build available the motoman build is BY FAR the BEST after you get over all the HOOPLAH over the new htc sense wich is cool i'll admit but the coolness wears off after about 2 days and your just stuck with a laggy non responsive HD build. now others will post how good thier HD build works after hours of tweeking and reading and tweeking and reading. But trust me you will go back to the motoman build after you try the hd for a few days
@ wrecless
thanks for your view about which rom to choose, i'll do as you say, since you realy know what you're talking about, and i was hoping you tell me whenever a perfect rom from the htc desire is out?
wrecless said:
I would suggest that you dont use NAND builds yet they are far from perfect but instead you should use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847631 it is motomans black and blue build wich is by far the best sense android build even much better than any ram and nand build and as for winmo flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893438 and it will boot android just as fast as any nand build and you will never have problems with this setup
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Would you say this build is better than darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 and SuperRAM Sense v0.1?
Jdm ultimate 1.6.2 is best by far nand or sd hands down
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The build you are speaking of is the desire hd. I didn't suggest that build because it is laggy and slow. Even after 10 restarts and 2 days of use it still laggs alot compared to the one I posted in B4. Take it from someone that has tried every build available the motoman build is BY FAR the BEST after you get over all the HOOPLAH over the new htc sense wich is cool i'll admit but the coolness wears off after about 2 days and your just stuck with a laggy non responsive HD build. now others will post how good thier HD build works after hours of tweeking and reading and tweeking and reading. But trust me you will go back to the motoman build after you try the hd for a few days
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sounds like an interesting helpful post
i will return to deliver the Thanks if I found Motoman's build, superior to the ones I have and resolves the issues I am facing (everyone is different)
xftox said:
Jdm ultimate 1.6.2 is best by far nand or sd hands down
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for non-sense build your rite jdms is by far the best
Essjaythegreat said:
Would you say this build is better than darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 and SuperRAM Sense v0.1?
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I installed the darkstone build and had problems but I cant remember exactly what they were. In my opinion the motoman build was just as fast and had no problems. I'v been trying everything just because i want something different but I always come back to this build nothing out there seams to work as well as this one and as for the nand builds they are all RMNET. So untill I see a working PPP build I'm going to keep using this SD build
Why hasnt a mod moved or deleted this topic?
wrecless said:
I installed the darkstone build and had problems but I cant remember exactly what they were. In my opinion the motoman build was just as fast and had no problems. I'v been trying everything just because i want something different but I always come back to this build nothing out there seams to work as well as this one and as for the nand builds they are all RMNET. So untill I see a working PPP build I'm going to keep using this SD build
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I had no problems at all with darkstones super ram builds they worked very well for me everything worked fine ppp wifi ect, i noticed darkstone froyo was a bit faster than his sence build but its still very fast
I tryed Motoman's build and found it very nice, but am having problems with wifi and market, I think there may be a fix for these but ive not had time to browse through the forum as of yet.
I really like JNF Android Starter Xtreme you recommended its funky
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Why hasnt a mod moved or deleted this topic?
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Why???????
Essjaythegreat said:
I had no problems at all with darkstones super ram builds they worked very well for me everything worked fine ppp wifi ect, i noticed darkstone froyo was a bit faster than his sence build but its still very fast
I tryed Motoman's build and found it very nice, but am having problems with wifi and market, I think there may be a fix for these but ive not had time to browse through the forum as of yet.
I really like JNF Android Starter Xtreme you recommended its funky
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Not sure one can find a perfect build ( or mate for that matter ), but I do have some info collected that others may find useful in the link below. If anyone can find a build with everything working, please let us know.
http://home.comcast.net/~chn110/AndroidHD2/ScoreCard.htm
TyTungs Nexus NAND build is awesome; check it out:
links are in my thread
deadmansink said:
TyTungs Nexus NAND build is awesome; check it out:
links are in my thread
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yep can confirm that, runs really really smooth, expecially with launcher pro
simax said:
yep can confirm that, runs really really smooth, expecially with launcher pro
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I actually went the ADW Launcher Ex route...bad-ass...
Whats good as far as ROM's. Do all features work? Idc about GPS, I dont use it. As far as camera, etc. Im always flashing android ROMs on my current and past phones and enjoy it. Some have dumb things like camera doesn't work, etc. How reliable is Android on an HD2? Same with Win7 if anyone here knows... Any info in regards to functionality/reliability would be greatly appreciated!!!
I'm a US Tmobile user if that matters at all...
Android works perfectly on most Roms and have everything working. Camera, LED's, etc. I haven't used wp7 much basically since the beginning but it was pretty buggy. The camera will play 720 video just won't record in it. I personally use typhoons cm7 rom it's great, the battery okay (could be better in my opinion) but that has a lot to do with my data usage.
Android everything works, except 720p recording. Well atleast for some roms everything works. E.g. Gingerbread sense are still in beta.
Most builds however, give a list of what's working and what not anyways.
WP7 is said to work as good as any other WP7 phone. I can't compare since i've never played around with a WP7 phone but I can say it is damn smooth. Everything works save for no proper auto focus in camera, or proper focus really.
Thanks! I think Android would be a better route for me.
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Hi,
after searching it seems that only pre-gingerbread have proper working camcorders.
I'm guessing camcorder apps won't help?
I believe most gingerbread builds camcorders do work, but not in full 720p, only up to 480p
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Hi,
after searching it seems that only pre-gingerbread have proper working camcorders.
I'm guessing camcorder apps won't help?
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Yup. Gingerbread Sense is currently under development so the camcorder is not working fully yet. Some have lags too.
So, getting another app from the market won't help?
How about other builds? Should I bother testing them?
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kosmarnik said:
So, getting another app from the market won't help?
How about other builds? Should I bother testing them?
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If you want to use HTC Sense builds and have a solid video camera, I'd stick with Froyo and Sense 2.0 for now. That said, I think we're all going to have to wait for the Desire Gingerbread source code to be released, before the video and graphical glitches can be completely fixed on our HD2's running GB Sense 2.1 or 3.0. Moreover, it may be a while before the source code hits the street, as the Desire GB update just came out.
Best to all,
R
rhacy said:
If you want to use HTC Sense builds and have a solid video camera, I'd stick with Froyo and Sense 2.0 for now. That said, I think we're all going to have to wait for the Desire Gingerbread source code to be released, before the video and graphical glitches can be completely fixed on our HD2's running GB Sense 2.1 or 3.0. Moreover, it may be a while before the source code hits the street, as the Desire GB update just came out.
Best to all,
R
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Oh, ok.
So that implies that senseless GB builds have working camcorder app. Downloading a cam app won't help sense builds, right?
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kosmarnik said:
Oh, ok.
So that implies that senseless GB builds have working camcorder app. Downloading a cam app won't help sense builds, right?
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Actually, from the NAND and SD GB builds (with or without Sense) that I've tested, the camcorder has always been slower and buggy compared to the HD2 Froyo builds. That said, the Sense builds have a working camcorder as well. Albeit slow and buggy, with or without third party camcorder apps.
Best to all,
R
kosmarnik said:
Oh, ok.
So that implies that senseless GB builds have working camcorder app. Downloading a cam app won't help sense builds, right?
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Camcorder issues are kernel/system files related not app related. they can't be fixed by installing another app.
WM6.5.x Energy/Dutty's or Android SD/NAND build?
please guys this is not a WM vs Android thread just a qustion...
Well to be honest with you any WM 6.5 ROM is better for taking pictures and video as the camera is one of the main things that gives chiefs problems with NAND Android ROMe and WP7 ROMe as that is very common with ports from one device to another and because the HD2 was never meant to run Android or WP7. Android usually takes good pictures but some ROMs can not take what I call full screen pictures and the video is the same. WP7 ROMe have finally got the camera issues just about worked out but you usually have to install a fix for it after you flash the ROM. They also finally found a fix for the Sense 3.0 and higher ROMs now where they take pretty good pictures now, check the last 10 to 20 pages of the XDA Portal to find that fix.
Now having said that I have used a couple of NAND Android ROMs that took good pictures and video. Most of the MIUI ROMe took good pictures but check the ROM threEs for info on each individual ROM as other ROMs have a good functioning camera as well.
As far as camera is concerned, I had the best results with Gingerbread Nand for photos and WP7 Mango for videos.
Transfer and playback - Android wins over WP7 and Zune with its inane glitches and conversions, especially where video/movies are concerned. Music plays equally well on both, but Android gives you better players and options. But that is just my opinion, of course.
WM6.5 is not in the race for me. Not going back to it.
what about music player and video player?
i use hyperdroid cm7 the camera is nice but that's it JUST nice....