Thoughts?
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Why?
I think the Arc ROM would be better
It could be, but I think the play Will be better
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I'm happy with anything they'll get beyond 2.1 (Considering the ROMs available now aren't stable. Although great work by z & J)
What about a hybrid?
arc is our closest option, speaking in terms of specs
Agreed in that!
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Well now that you've pointed it out, I'm sure they will think about it
Ooohh. do you know what.. I'm in charge of all X10 firmware development, and it hadn't crossed my mind that it would be possible to port the Arc firmware to the X10... however, I've just checked and it worked.. first time.. didn't have to change anything.. We'll upload it to SEUS first thing in the morning and you'll all be rocking some Ginge by lunchtime..
/endsarcasm.
Be nice. He's new
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Ooohh. do you know what.. I'm in charge of all X10 firmware development, and it hadn't crossed my mind that it would be possible to port the Arc firmware to the X10... however, I've just checked and it worked.. first time.. didn't have to change anything.. We'll upload it to SEUS first thing in the morning and you'll all be rocking some Ginge by lunchtime..
/endsarcasm.
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oh sir u are the best, we need more people like you, i just recieved my update OTA u rock sir
Screw GB, where's my Ice Cream!?
New SE modded ROM
Maybe Arc rom have some good compatibilites, talking about hardware and software.
Included new Android version,better to customize and mod.
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Screw GB, where's my Ice Cream!?
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can I has one?
when it will available to all the country......i have not received the update till now.............
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Ooohh. do you know what.. I'm in charge of all X10 firmware development, and it hadn't crossed my mind that it would be possible to port the Arc firmware to the X10... however, I've just checked and it worked.. first time.. didn't have to change anything.. We'll upload it to SEUS first thing in the morning and you'll all be rocking some Ginge by lunchtime..
/endsarcasm.
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Nothing is more discouraging than unappreciated sarcasm.
Sorry I'm just. New here
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sarcasm aside... it might not be too hard for the devs on here to port the Arc f/w across to the X10.. a lot of the h/w is the same... no doubt time will tell!
Arc hardware isn't identical, the screen is completely new, it looks like true multitouch, has bravia engine, Exmor R and all that jazz, i don't think the port will be possible.
i think in that case it's just a matter of changing the drivers, which shouldn't be too hard for them to make it x10 ready
if they can do it with a bare firmware, i can't see why can't they do the same to the SE future firmwares
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Sorry if this has been asked elsewhere, but I'm wondering if the 2.1 release will allow devs a better chance at effectively getting the X10 fully rooted? Ie: will they be able to see what changes the update is doing and use that to hopefully get us to 2.2?
Man, the most important thing is NOT to root (it is! rooted) the phone, but to crack the bootloader!
Once the loader gets cracked you won't want to root anymore cuz you probably simply use a (pre-rooted) custom ROM.
But IF SE changes anything about the bootloader it will probably be even harder than now to crack it... :-(
Hope the devs will get it one day...!!!
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Sony ericsson seem to have really made this thing hard to crack. I really hope it does get cracked though. Custom roms are exciting!
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Sony ericsson seem to have really made this thing hard to crack. I really hope it does get cracked though. Custom roms are exciting!
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Either that or SE will not servive in this competition of handset. my fuse is getting hot and beginning to look at samsung.
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Sony ericsson seem to have really made this thing hard to crack. I really hope it does get cracked though. Custom roms are exciting!
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Problem is, not many people have X10 so, not enough devs for good brainstorming.
With less people involved, development is slow compared with other smartphones.
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Man, the most important thing is NOT to root (it is! rooted) the phone, but to crack the bootloader!
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Err I guess thats what I meant. Will we be able to easily crack the bootloader using the update coming out (hopefully this year?)
Can you discuss 2.1 in the existing 2.1 thread
I've received quite a handful amount of PM's regarding the new SO-01b update that it wasn't up to their expectations regarding UXP revamp or improvements. The SO-01b update is "not" what SE planned to update. It's version is still 2.0.1. Please note that the update is not what has been planned nor is the one planned canceled. Everything is still on schedule, and you will all receive your next big update to 2.1.A update soon. The final test firmware has already begun internally a few days ago, so it will take a while before it exits testing period. Please be patience guys
P.S. Anyone read the Vivaz 2 article? I can only laugh
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I've received quite a handful amount of PM's regarding the new SO-01b update that it wasn't up to their expectations regarding UXP revamp or improvements. The SO-01b update is "not" what SE planned to update. It's version is still 2.0.1. Please note that the update is not what has been planned nor is the one planned canceled. Everything is still on schedule, and you will all receive your next big update to 2.1.A update soon. The final test firmware has already begun internally a few days ago, so it will take a while before it exits testing period. Please be patience guys
P.S. Anyone read the Vivaz 2 article? I can only laugh
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So will the UXP bring Arabic support?!! I am dieing here!!
Vivaz 2? Isn't that the MT15 Hallon?
According to a SE event held in egypt ,all the xperia range will get arabic support in Q1 2010 (i can't find the link now but it's confirmed)
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According to a SE event held in egypt ,all the xperia range will get arabic support in Q1 2010 (i can't find the link now but it's confirmed)
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Yes, it should be supported in 2.1.A, but NOT 2.0.1.B. I'm sure there will be people who misunderstand that. Thanks for the confirmation from your location
Thanks for clearing this up. Is it possible to give some more info on the contents of this update?
In Japan there is a rumor that SO-01B will not plan to update to 2.1x.
So I think 2.0.1.b.0.19 update is final update to give us MT for SO-01B.
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vivaz2... hahahahah... looks like a replacement for the x8 to me.. where on earth did they get Vivaz from??!!
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P.S. Anyone read the Vivaz 2 article? I can only laugh
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yep. i red it. funny man wrote it
ps. can u tell please is there any plans or ideas or rumors of satio version on android - i mean real photo monster on android? Cause after satio - x10 and arc cameras... but i sold satio because of symbian. Ah?
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yep. i red it. funny man wrote it
ps. can u tell please is there any plans or ideas or rumors of satio version on android - i mean real photo monster on android? Cause after satio - x10 and arc cameras... but i sold satio because of symbian. Ah?
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Sorry, not anytime soon. I'm just here to notify people who are curious about what the new update is about and whether it's what everyone is waiting for.
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Sorry, not anytime soon. I'm just here to notify people who are curious about what the new update is about and whether it's what everyone is waiting for.
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Your title says for "non-rooted" users. So if you are rooted and running stock SE you will NOT get the update?!
I think he still thought that the new update couldn't be root.
It's for those who dont root thier X10
No, I did not meant to say if you are rooted then you will not receive an update. It's definitely not true Most of the rooted users are probably already on the clean roms or even 2.2 roms with MT enabled throughout. So I don't know if you guys would be interested in the new update
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No, I did not meant to say if you are rooted then you will not receive an update. It's definitely not true Most of the rooted users are probably already on the clean roms or even 2.2 roms with MT enabled throughout. So I don't know if you guys would be interested in the new update
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I am very much interested in the new update. I am running stock fw with all the bloatware removed
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@unknown13x- What exactly is the difference between the Hallon and the Arc? Given the Hallon article by MR, it seems that we are going to pay a premium on the Arc for inferior features. The hallon has a front cam while Arc doesnt. Everything else is the same.
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@unknown13x- What exactly is the difference between the Hallon and the Arc? Given the Hallon article by MR, it seems that we are going to pay a premium on the Arc for inferior features. The hallon has a front cam while Arc doesnt. Everything else is the same.
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I have answered that in the arc's forum. I'll try to keep on topic here about the update only
Is there anything more you can tell us about the update, or maybe show us???
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I am very much interested in the new update. I am running stock fw with all the bloatware removed
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all the bloatware removed <---- How ??
i want to delete all useless craps like the moxier
Hi again unknown13x, been a while....
Does the new mediascape have an equalizer? And is the Timescape scrollable? That will make me switch back from 2.2 if so...
SE should enable track skipping with the volume buttons, like on my old k800.
What could we expect with new version?
Just give us some hints, please!
Hey all,
Latest xperia x10 update solved all problems, yesterday I was looking at one of the topics on how to make my xperia x10 multi touch, when I connected my phone SE PC Suit indicated that there is an update, so I did it. It was for the multi touch.
The funny part is that about two months ago I was trying to enable Arabic, today I realized that the Arabic font has changed, and I thought that the update was also for languages, guess what.. IT DID, now I have Arabic, multi touch and god knows what else.
I just wanted to share this information with you guys and ask you, if the same thing about the Arabic happened (or will be) on the HTC Desire HD?
There's a rom by Lee that supports arabic fonts. It's called LeeDroid ARA.
Anyway I didn't notice any improvement with the latest x10 firmware. Kernel sucks as usual
Honestly... how much is Sony Ericsson pays u to say good things abt them here?
OUT WITH IT!!!
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nonentity said:
Honestly... how much is Sony Ericsson pays u to say good things abt them here?
OUT WITH IT!!!
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Depends on how much other competitive companies pay you to say bad things about SE
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not being rude but everyone has had mutli touch and so on months ago. you're a bit late.
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Hey all,
Latest xperia x10 update solved all problems, yesterday I was looking at one of the topics on how to make my xperia x10 multi touch, when I connected my phone SE PC Suit indicated that there is an update, so I did it. It was for the multi touch.
The funny part is that about two months ago I was trying to enable Arabic, today I realized that the Arabic font has changed, and I thought that the update was also for languages, guess what.. IT DID, now I have Arabic, multi touch and god knows what else.
I just wanted to share this information with you guys and ask you, if the same thing about the Arabic happened (or will be) on the HTC Desire HD?
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you're a bit late for the information.
1st, its not a Multi Touch its a Dual Touch
2nd not all has been fix yet, In-call audio is not been fix...
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Depends on how much other competitive companies pay you to say bad things about SE
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well said !!!! +1
Ok i don't want to say bad things about SE
As a Xperia X10 user, i disappointed on this SE news:
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/02/25/questions-and-answers-from-mwc2011/comment-page-1/#comments
From now on, if there is no good HTC phone, i will buy SS, SE can't make a smart phone. SE made well cyber-shot phone, walkman phone, but smart phone always need update.
An other thing...
To call it multitouch, is quite a stretch....
It is at most bad implemented crappy not functional DUAL touch...
Clearly you have never tried real multitouch...
Do your self a huge favour and buy a HTC, and you WILL discover the difference...
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4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42
For me, I like my white X10, I can't find anything like it on HTC or Samsung, which a lot of people here are praising. Stop crying on your wrong choice, SE got your money already, just move on. Ha! Ha! Ha!
My SE phones always functions correctly, what I hear about Samung/HTC phones is not positive. They dont always function correct. So I'm happy with my x10! And the dual touch works perfect. And yes I already used some real multi touch on other smartphones.
PLEASE DEVELOPERS CRACK THE BOOTLOADER!! YOU GUYS ARE OUR ONLY HOPE!
Lol that's bs... I had a htc hero before this and my gf has a desire z. Htc phones work just as well, maybe even better.
The only reason I switched was because I got my x10 for a really good price and because of the bigger processor.
@MJ_QaT: If that's the case why dun u ask ur dear SE to release 2.2 or 2.3 updates as we r already 2 steps behind and 2.1 apps r getting obsoleted, as well as releasing the bootloader and FPS while u r at it...
If SE releases all these, then I'll agree wif u abt their update services... until then, I keep talking bad abt them for other companies FOR FREE!!!
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@MJ_QaT: If that's the case why dun u ask ur dear SE to release 2.2 or 2.3 updates as we r already 2 steps behind and 2.1 apps r getting obsoleted, as well as releasing the bootloader and FPS while u r at it...
If SE releases all these, then I'll agree wif u abt their update services... until then, I keep talking bad abt them for other companies FOR FREE!!!
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So you are the victim? Um, pretty much every android gets one major OS upgrade, including HTC and Samsung, so the problem is that you made the wrong purchase. If having the latest OS version was so important, why did you buy the x10 which came with 1.6 and said "updateable to 2.1"?
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So you are the victim? Um, pretty much every android gets one major OS upgrade, including HTC and Samsung, so the problem is that you made the wrong purchase. If having the latest OS version was so important, why did you buy the x10 which came with 1.6 and said "updateable to 2.1"?
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Seriously, it is the shape and size and the way it fits on my palm... why did I buy when it already said upgradeable to 2.1? It didn't... when I bought it, it was just 1.6... when u bought the win 7, does it says that it will be upgradable to sp1 or 2? That's the same reason...
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Seriously, it is the shape and size and the way it fits on my palm... why did I buy when it already said upgradeable to 2.1? It didn't... when I bought it, it was just 1.6... when u bought the win 7, does it says that it will be upgradable to sp1 or 2? That's the same reason...
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That was my point. You bought it with 1.6(updateable to 2.1), so why are you whining about 2.2+?
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That was my point. You bought it with 1.6(updateable to 2.1), so why are you whining about 2.2+?
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The same reason when win7 sp1 was not distributed... and more and more softwares r starting to be obsoleting on 2.1... and if X10i is not on android platform, I wouldn't even bother to stop by and take a look...
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It solved nothing. I appreciate the improvements to mediascape, but the phone for me is a heck of alot slower. The Dual touch is basically useless and now my phone restarts constantly.
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@MJ_QaT: If that's the case why dun u ask ur dear SE to release 2.2 or 2.3 updates as we r already 2 steps behind and 2.1 apps r getting obsoleted, as well as releasing the bootloader and FPS while u r at it...
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Alright, will that be with tomato or without?
If SE releases all these, then I'll agree wif u abt their update services... until then, I keep talking bad abt them for other companies FOR FREE!!!
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Just a phone man
and regarding their updating service they will provide it up to two years from production, but it doesn't mean they will Upgrade the OS to latest, it only means that if there were a bug to fix, they will release and update to fix it.
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Just a phone man
and regarding their updating service they will provide it up to two years from production, but it doesn't mean they will Upgrade the OS to latest, it only means that if there were a bug to fix, they will release and update to fix it.
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By buying the phone, at the same time, r we not buying their services as well as their brands? Look at X2 for an instance... that phone was a total failure which only receive few updates and hangs even more than the earlier update...
I really hope that u r right man and also hoping that history dun repeat itself... if not, they are just saving the lastest for their next phone in order to market it...
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Sony Ericson left us with updates.
Look: http://www.ptcrb.com/ctiastaff/complete/view_complete_request.cfm?modelid=17877
There was pass one month from last cerficated update i think SE left us or is it plaining one big update?
What do you think?
Nope, probably this is all we'll get for the X8. Still can't believe what a bunch of ass-holes S.E. are.
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Nope, probably this is all we'll get for the X8. Still can't believe what a bunch of ass-holes S.E. are.
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I won't update because it VERY POSSIBLE THAT SE LOCKS DOWN custom boot.img LOADING!
If that change happens in EROM (loader.sin) then nothing could be done to go back...
I suggest that first we should wait for boot.img loading to be ported to X8...
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I won't update because it VERY POSSIBLE THAT SE LOCKS DOWN custom boot.img LOADING!
If that change happens in EROM (loader.sin) then nothing could be done to go back...
I suggest that first we should wait for boot.img loading to be ported to X8...
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Flashing back will not help?
I can't really be bothered waiting for another 2.1 update no matter how big or small. It's still 2.1. I couldn't be more happy to see the XDA devs hard at work making 2.2+ for the x8. It's not SE who make the x8 a decent little mid-range phone.
Where phone manufacturers screw their customers, XDA devs pick up the remains and do a better job anyways... on their spare time
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Flashing back will not help?
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Two things can happen:
*New Android update which disables this.
*New EROM which disables bypassing and DRM killing on lower level:
a) new EROM, same AID - EROM is downgradable
b) new EROM, new AID - can't be downgraded at the moment
Basically, don't risk - don't update if any new update comes.
A huge thank you to devs working on roms here.They are doing a great job!!!
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A huge thank you to devs working on roms here.They are doing a great job!!!
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Yes they are.
droidjens said:
I can't really be bothered waiting for another 2.1 update no matter how big or small. It's still 2.1. I couldn't be more happy to see the XDA devs hard at work making 2.2+ for the x8. It's not SE who make the x8 a decent little mid-range phone.
Where phone manufacturers screw their customers, XDA devs pick up the remains and do a better job anyways... on their spare time
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I agree with you MAN!!
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Yes they are.
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The good news now is, they are looking also with MT
SE gave up updating X8, XDA hasn't, and guess what, we got semi-MultiTouch, All from XDA
basically it was SE's strategy to stop updating the old xperia phones so that the new phones can take their place. guys just keep a track in the dev section for more updates in the custom rom arena.. devs r working hard & they r producing super results
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I agree with you MAN!!
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Also agreed man!!!! XDA developers are awesome!!!!
new minor update 2.1.1.A.0.28 Mar 23, 2011
hotdude2411 said:
basically it was SE's strategy to stop updating the old xperia phones so that the new phones can take their place. guys just keep a track in the dev section for more updates in the custom rom arena.. devs r working hard & they r producing super results
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Well if they won't update the Xperia Series anymore, i won't but from sony..EVER, and i think a lot of people have the same opinion as i do
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new minor update 2.1.1.A.0.28 Mar 23, 2011
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What this can be?
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i don't think so
X10 is getting 2.3.3... but it seems that x8,mini and mini pro are not going to get it...
Carnana said:
X10 is getting 2.3.3... but it seems that x8,mini and mini pro are not going to get it...
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We already got 2.3(custom), and when the SE 2.3 will apear on X10, we'll just port it to X8 >
Finally,SE realized what we wants and it's satisfied!!!Now I love my X10 so much!!!Do you?
C'mon!!!Cheers!!!
Lol Like someone said before...
the Xperia X10 is like the John Rambo of the phones!!!! It will never die and even in its last days of live will fight back lol
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Lol Like someone said before...
the Xperia X10 is like the John Rambo of the phones!!!! It will never die and even in its last days of live will fight back lol
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I think that phrase belongs to T-Mob G1
im very glad SE made this decision ,
lets make this thread a PARTY thread , woo hoo !!!
Bring on the beer
Who's buying shots? Ah hell, a round for the bar on me!
YEEEHAAAAWWWWW!!
I am so happy right now!!
*dances around*
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Who's buying shots? Ah hell, a round for the bar on me!
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SWEEET!!!! this will be a great weekend afterall!
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I'm actually more excited for the prospect of newer and better mods cheers anyway!
but im gettin an arc heheheh !!!!!!!!!!
Proud? Hehe
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Yeah sure... then they will delay it until 2012 and as we all know we will all die then...
3Q 2012 Roflmao
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Yeah, 2.3.3 update + locking kexec and DRM killing security holes. We're all very happy about it.
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Hell yeah! I love my X10....but i still hope we get the bootloader cracked!!
I prefer the term "Die another day" will be more suitable. :-D
Yup, until my contract runs out in 3 months, then my son gets the X10 and I'll let him fret on when 2.3 gets released while I tap away on my arc
Gingerbread ftw.. wooohoooo
Sorry guys. But the Incredible S from HTC has a signed bootloader too. So crying to HTC wont reap you any benefits either.
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Yeah, 2.3.3 update + locking kexec and DRM killing security holes. We're all very happy about it.
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Actually, if SE manages to get 2.3.3 running as well on our X10's as it's running on the arc, I don't really care. I wan't my phone to "just work", to cite iPhone users. Though I'll of course feel bad for the developers if SE decides to patch it, especially after seeing these major breakthroughs lately.
I don´t want my phone just to work. If the update from SE proves to be a crappy port from Arc count me out. I prefer to have a stable custom rom with little bugs than having a product that is just for show, that doesn´t perform nowhere near the Arc.
If SE is honest and gives us a fully working 2.3.3. very fluid and fast, then X10 will be fighting again with the big dogs.
If this update is just for patching holes and giving more locks then shame on you SE. If this happens and i buy another SE phone then shame on me. =) Although i can´t resist the looks of their models....