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So I'm sitting at home patiently waiting for the UPS man to come with my new Vibrant. In my pocket is my beloved Nexus One.
I had a chance to play with a vibrant in a Tmo store and really liked it. Seemed speedier than my N1 in almost every aspect and that screen is just gorgeous!
I'd like to hear from any Nexus One users that jumped ship to the Vibrant. Are you happy with your decision? Any issues?
I'll be side by siding these two beasts for the next 14 days (return period). And only one will stay with me. I'd just like to hear some other peoples experiences.
I find the Vibrant better in every regard. The one thing I miss is how speedy development came to the N1 (for obvious reasons). I (and the developers) are more accustom to HTC phones...
BUT, speed, screen, sound, keyboard, I really like everything better.
Some people complain about a GPS issue, that a lot of us do not have.....
You wont have froyo immediately....
I like how solid the N1 feels in my hand....
those are about the only things I can think of.
I sold my rooted nexus one for this.
The good:
Better screen (WOW) you'll see
Better Speaker
Faster Data Pulling (you'll be surprised how good edge is even )
Better widgets (touchwiz is lovely)
The bad:
doesn't open apps as fast as Nexus
Switching from 3g to Edge takes way longer than the nexus
Battery a tiny bit worse than nexus
Feels horrible compared to the nexus build (the vibrant is cheaply built) PLASTIC
going from screen to screen, you will get a slight jerk... not smooth like launcherpro/ADW or 2.2 Froyo default home
Other than that, this phone is lovely and its a keeper. I'm waiting for a replacement battery. maybe the 3500Mah they had for the nexus one.That will also put some weight on it. it's like a feather now.
I too sold my N1. I did for all the aforementioned reasons plus I really like being able to take the phone instore for warranty issues instead of waiting a week or two for htc to get my phone fix it and ship it back.....
The battery specs on the Vibrant seem WAY better than the N1, but I've been seeing some complaints on battery life. Whats the deal with that? Was Samsung overexerting the standby time?
I'll miss froyo, But once it hits the vibrant I assume it will be BLAZING fast with JIT on the hummingbird. Besides the speed, Flash in the browser kinda sucks anyways on N1 (slow!). So going back to 2.1 wont be a huge loss.
I love my nexus, but its had its issues. I'm currently on my 3rd swap out from HTC due to the screen not working and dust under the digitizer. Hoping I have good luck with the vibrant and its GPS issues.
I guess I'll have to wait and see which wins... I plan on keeping both for a couple of weeks before I decide.
thanks for your opinions!
stepinmyworld said:
Feels horrible compared to the nexus build (the vibrant is cheaply built) PLASTIC
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I beg to differ.. its user preference, I prefer it being lightweight its a lot different than the G1 whereas it feels like a brick. I don't think its a con whatsoever, doesn't feel cheap at all.. check out the videos where they try and "scratch" and damage it. The phone could take a hit.
Just got the Vibrant today, bought the Nexus on the day it was announced. I'm likely sending the Vibrant back and keeping the Nexus. Here are my first impressions:
1: Unbelievably light and, unfortunately, cheap feeling, particularly the buttons (Vol. and on/off). The build quality of the Nexus One feels like it's in an entirely different league here.
2: Nice screen size though my phone will not display a true white or grey. Instead, everything has a cyan/blue tinge. This actually is my biggest issue with the phone right now. The Nexus gives true whites and greys and, even with the brightness all the way up, no true white or gray on the vibrant. Menus, text, market and web pages show this every time I open them - it's driving me nuts.
3: The music app contains a real to life Equalizer and a number of other sound settings. This is one feature I really love and will miss if I send the phone back. Sound quality is very good, though not through the crap headphones Samsung provides. Here again, the quality of the Nexus headphones are noticeably better.
4: Neither the Compass or the GPS work correctly on my phone making the phone useless until a fix is released for what I actually use it most for - Google Places and voice navigation.
5: The image quality of photo's taken with the camera are very good for a phone. Auto weight balance works perfectly under various light sources. Much better than Nexus in this department, though I do miss the flash - which I used mostly as a flashlight!
6: The size feels a little uncomfortable in the hand compared to the Nexus but that's likely just something I have gotten used to.
7: Battery life seems like it will be much better than Nexus.
Anyway, I know the GPS and Compass will be fixed and perhaps I could get used to the flimsy build quality but the screen is a deal breaker as I expected it to be superior to the Nexus One. It's not. If I had to guess, I suspect Samsung has used some sort of Polarizing film to reduce glare outside in bright light which is resulting in the blue/cyan tinge.
Sold my Nexus and both docks, got a nice chunk if change and got the Vibrant. Its the best phone out right now IMO.
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tariqgibran said:
Just got the Vibrant today, bought the Nexus on the day it was announced. I'm likely sending the Vibrant back and keeping the Nexus. Here are my first impressions:
1: Unbelievably light and, unfortunately, cheap feeling, particularly the buttons (Vol. and on/off). The build quality of the Nexus One feels like it's in an entirely different league here.
PERSONALLY I don't equate light-weight with cheap...it's very VERY light weight, but it doesn't feel cheaply made to me. The biggest complaint I have about the build quality personally is the "metal" bezel(of course it's plastic). I feel like that will scratch if it's looked at incorrectly. lol. But IMO it doesn't feel cheaply made at all
2: Nice screen size though my phone will not display a true white or grey. Instead, everything has a cyan/blue tinge. This actually is my biggest issue with the phone right now. The Nexus gives true whites and greys and, even with the brightness all the way up, no true white or gray on the vibrant. Menus, text, market and web pages show this every time I open them - it's driving me nuts.
Direct Quote about OLED's that explains the blue tint:
"...since the OLED material used to produce blue light degrades significantly more rapidly than the materials that produce other colors, blue light output will decrease relative to the other colors of light...In order to delay the problem, manufacturers bias the colour balance towards blue so that the display initially has an artificially blue tint, leading to complaints of artificial-looking, over-saturated colors..."
4: Neither the Compass or the GPS work correctly on my phone making the phone useless until a fix is released for what I actually use it most for - Google Places and voice navigation.
This is a problem only SOME units have, and additionally, even if yours DOES have the problem, there's a fix for it here in the forums
6: The size feels a little uncomfortable in the hand compared to the Nexus but that's likely just something I have gotten used to.
I think this depends on the size of your hands. Going from a Touch Pro2 with a 3.6" screen to a 4.3" on the HD2 I didn't like it. It was hard to text on when trying to reach across the screen...but this 4" screen fit perfectly into my hands. It also makes it feel more like a "phone" and not a "pda". I know the Nexus has a 3.7" screen, but like he said, I think you'd get used to it.
7: Battery life seems like it will be much better than Nexus.
Trust me....depends on what you have running and when you have it running lol. This thing will randomly start apps that you never tell it to start(telenav for example) and they'll run in the background for no reason at all lol. I've had situations where with ZERO use....it just sitting idle....after 8 hrs it used up almost 50% of the battery. Darker(blacker) backgrounds help on battery life too. I tested a live wall paper at 100% brightness for 30 mins and a completely black wallpaper at 100% brightness and there was a 100% increase of battery life drain. 4% after 1 half hour vs 2% after 1 half hour(i actually think the same would apply to the nexus one since it's an amoled screen)
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As he stated at the end though, the GPS will soon be fixed(officially that is) by Samsung, and you'll probably have to get used to the feel of it vs the Nexus 1...but I had an opportunity to buy either, and I used both for 1 day, and couldn't put the Vibrant down so I went with it.
Edit: and though not as good as an LED light, because the Vibrant uses SAMOLED the white screens at full brightness are ridiculously bright lol. So if you use one of the screen flash light apps, it'd probably be the brightest...but again, it's not as bright as an LED flash light. But Trust me...it definitely works lol
lp894 said:
As he stated at the end though, the GPS will soon be fixed(officially that is) by Samsung, and you'll probably have to get used to the feel of it vs the Nexus 1...but I had an opportunity to buy either, and I used both for 1 day, and couldn't put the Vibrant down so I went with it.
Edit: and though not as good as an LED light, because the Vibrant uses SAMOLED the white screens at full brightness are ridiculously bright lol. So if you use one of the screen flash light apps, it'd probably be the brightest...but again, it's not as bright as an LED flash light. But Trust me...it definitely works lol
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The screen on the specific Vibrant I received is nowhere near as bright as the Nexus screen, even at full brightness and the cyan/blue tinge is not so subtle. Many are stating that the blue look is normal with OLED's yet neither my Nexus nor my wife's have this problem at all. There is also growing evidence that the Vibrant display is not consistant from phone to phone, with some reporting the blue issue more than others, even when examining four vibrants simultaneously (so this is not just subjective). Thus, don't buy the whole explanation that Samsung added mor blue to counteract future blue degradation over time. I think what those of us with extremely tinged blue screens are experiencing is a quality control issue, plain and simple - perhaps it has something to do with an inconsistency in the SOLED manufacturing process, I don't know. I do know that all OLED's do not have this issue and, apparently, not even all Samsung SOLED Vibrants!
Regarding the "cheap" feel, my volume button rattles when I handle the phone and has no definite "detent" feel. Perhaps mine is unique, but this definitely lends a flimsy feel to the phone, particularly compared to the firm feel of the Nexus buttons. Think I wil return this vibrant and see what a replacement offers as I must have received a dud. To be fair, the Nexus my wife received initially had to be returned due to a quality control issue. I think most of these devices today are at the bleeding edge of manufacturing technology.
I got rid of my 3 week old N1 for the Vibrant, and I have no regrets at all. I'm very much in love with this phone. I think the only major issue with the phone for most is the GPS problems, but Samsung already said they're working on a fix.
Yeah, the phone is very light weight, but as soon as I bought the thick gel case from T-Mo it really did add a great weight to the phone.
I'm a phone whore that switches phones pretty much every time a new phone hits the market, and I've gotta say the Vibrant just might be the best I've ever owned.
I sort of gave up my Nexus One for a Vibrant. My wife wanted my Nexus One because T-Mobile still doesn't have a good phone for photographs (Vibrant included).
I had just gotten her a MT3G Slide, so I trade it back to them for the Vibrant.
So far, the only thing I have to complain about is the lack of a Camera flash, it completely hinders the camera in most lighting situations after 6PM EST, haha.
Also, the body does feel cheaply constructed. The Nexus One had the most solid design of any phone I have ever owned or held in my hand.
I miss my N1, but the Vibrant is a GREAT alternative. I can say I love this phone, and most of that love is coming from the BEAUTIFUL screen.
I had a Nexus, and my wife had a MyTouch. She was wanting to upgrade, so we decided that I would get a Vibrant, and she would get my Nexus. We have since given away the MyTouch.
I have to say, at first, I was LOVING my Vibrant! it was incredible! The screen, and benchmarks spoke for themselves! Heck, I was even able to ditch a couple of mediocre apps for the pre-installed apps!
I've had my Vibrant for...17 days now. I've NEVER had any luck with the GPS, although it is handy for a game called "The Great Land Grab", since I can now buy land in states and countries I've never even been to before! (I bought a piece of land in CHINA!!! WOOT!) I've tried ALL of the fixes posted here at XDA and elsewhere. All of them seemed to help, but then I realized it was mostly a placebo effect. "742 people said this fix worked perfectly! It's gotta fix my GPS! Hey, it only took 17 minutes this time! YAY! It's all better!" Coming from a long line of HTC phones (G1, MyTouch, Nexus), I've come to expect good GPS performance, and I use maps and nav a LOT. (Well, I used to) I'm extremely disappointed in this, to the point that I will never buy another Samsung phone again.
The screen is AMAZING! The picture quality is intense, and it displays video so fluidly! I can't say enough good things about how beautiful it is! The screen difference is .4 inches, but it looks and feels like it's HUGE in comparison. I've never seen a screen on a cell phone that can show as deep black as this. If you set your phone up poroperly, you can have it on, but not be able to tell (ADW.Launcher/black wallpaper/no status bar/no icons/empty dock/dock open - Looks amazing!) It's such a nice display!
The phone SHOULD be WAY faster. the specs make the Nexus look old and dated. Of course, when you're used to touching an app shortcut, and it just HAPPENS, a 2-10 second lag seems like FOREVER! There are some MAJOR design flaws in the Vibrant, such as the 16 gig internal storage. It's a class 6, yes, but it's got VERY serious i/o issues, so almost everything that calls on the resources on it stalls and lags. (You'll see TONS of people who say there's no lag, but most of those people came from a dated phone, like a G1 or MyTouch. It's WAY faster than any of the older generation 1 or generation 2 phones, but it's painfully slow when you're used to the powerhouse known as Nexus. (2 seconds doesn't sound long, until you're trying to show off your phone, and you feel the need to explain that "it takes a second or two to load up, but when it does..." and you have TIME to explain that to someone while you wait. It's not nearly as snappy or responsive as it should be, considering this is a flagship device with specs to make most phones look like crap. SUPPOSEDLY, this phone is more powerful than a PSP, but the design flaws make it perform more like an NES. Once it gets going, it's GREAT, but it's the getting it up and running that sucks.
The phone does feel lighter, and cheaper, but it depends on your point of view if this is a good thing or a bad thing. I personally prefer the feel of the Nexus, because it feels more solid.
The loudspeaker on the Vibrant is WAY better than the speaker on the Nexus, although I have to think it something to do with the "hollow-ish" phone back echoing the sound, and therefore amplifying it somewhat, but I haven't tried a direct comparison with the phone backs off.
The Vibrant out-performs most phones on the market in terms of benchmark scores (linpak not included) however, if you were to perform a side-by side comparison of getting those benchmarks loaded up, you would likely have no doubt that the Vibrant is considerably slower. (I'm talking of the latest generation of 1ghz phones, like Nexus, DroidX, and EVO)
If the GPS (and compass, which is HOPELESSLY broken) and lag issues could be resolved, I think the Vibrant could be a contender as possibly the best phone on the planet, but in it's current form, it feels a lot like that funky cousin you try to avoid at family reunions. "Well, he came from a great family, and he's really smart, but he's just a bit off...I mean, look at him, he's pouring his soda into his shoes!"
Overall, I think in it's current state, the Vibrant can't hold a candle to the Nexus, and depending on the I/O issues, it may NEVER compare, but if they can get it running better, and make everything WORK, it will make the Nexus feel like a G1.
My choice for best phone: Nexus
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lp894 said:
4: Neither the Compass or the GPS work correctly on my phone making the phone useless until a fix is released for what I actually use it most for - Google Places and voice navigation.
This is a problem only SOME units have, and additionally, even if yours DOES have the problem, there's a fix for it here in the forums
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You sound like a PR rep for samsung, not an actual end user. It's comments and sentiments like these that make forums useless for researching products. Too many people bitterly rationalizing bad purchases.
As an owner of a Vibrant I'm probably returning mine, after waiting the full 14 days to see if Samsung would at least indicate that they're working on any sort of fix. They finally started talking about the GPS, but there is no mention of the compass problem yet and I suspect it will remain broken.
The sick part is there are so many people new to android that they don't even realize how broken the compass is. Try using Layar, wikitude, anything related to augmented reality or positional awareness and you'll realize how useless it is.
If you don't care about fancy augmented reality/positional awareness applications or GPS working properly then the vibrant is a great phone.
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"Well, he came from a great family, and he's really smart, but he's just a bit off...I mean, look at him, he's pouring his soda into his shoes!"
Overall, I think in it's current state, the Vibrant can't hold a candle to the Nexus, and depending on the I/O issues, it may NEVER compare, but if they can get it running better, and make everything WORK, it will make the Nexus feel like a G1.
My choice for best phone: Nexus
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Thanks, you made gave me a good laugh today.
+1 on everything you said.
hollabax said:
You sound like a PR rep for samsung, not an actual end user. It's comments and sentiments like these that make forums useless for researching products. Too many people bitterly rationalizing bad purchases.
As an owner of a Vibrant I'm probably returning mine, after waiting the full 14 days to see if Samsung would at least indicate that they're working on any sort of fix. They finally started talking about the GPS, but there is no mention of the compass problem yet and I suspect it will remain broken.
The sick part is there are so many people new to android that they don't even realize how broken the compass is. Try using Layar, wikitude, anything related to augmented reality or positional awareness and you'll realize how useless it is.
If you don't care about fancy augmented reality/positional awareness applications or GPS working properly then the vibrant is a great phone.
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Just out of curiosity, are the GPS and Compass interrelated somehow such that a GPS fix would fix the compass? OR, is there distinct hardware functions that control the two independently?
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Just out of curiosity, are the GPS and Compass interrelated somehow such that a GPS fix would fix the compass? OR, is there distinct hardware functions that control the two independently?
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Last I heard, they think the compass is what breaks the gps, according to Tmo and Samsung. Which worries me, because a compass is just a floating magnet. If it's hardware broken, and that's what breaks gps, there may be NO way to fix it. ):
I really hope I'm wrong.
I'd like to thank Swype for all of my typos.
my GPS works fine.....I dont use compass and never did. Gave my Nexus to GF and using Vibrant. While there are many improvement to be made, its MUCH better then Nexus when it was released (I had 3 replacements, all 3 had: 3g issues, light sensor issues, pink camera, and crappy touchscreen....phone was almost useless, but after 3rd party ROMs, Nexus became a good phone with many flaws fixed)
yeah, compass seems to be ****ed, just checked. will compare to Nexus today. ps. navigation-wise I checked both and they seemed to perform the same.
read that compass is software issue and should be fixed. i think its fair to say that we ALL need to give Samsung a chance to fix issues. so far there was no update to Vibrant and it WILL come end of September....maybe October....
and its gonna be a pretty damn big update, not only we get fixes for bugs and possibly more add-ons (features) to Touchwiz, we are also getting a Froyo !
bryon13 said:
I had a Nexus, and my wife had a MyTouch. She was wanting to upgrade, so we decided that I would get a Vibrant, and she would get my Nexus. We have since given away the MyTouch.
I have to say, at first, I was LOVING my Vibrant! it was incredible! The screen, and benchmarks spoke for themselves! Heck, I was even able to ditch a couple of mediocre apps for the pre-installed apps!
I've had my Vibrant for...17 days now. I've NEVER had any luck with the GPS, although it is handy for a game called "The Great Land Grab", since I can now buy land in states and countries I've never even been to before! (I bought a piece of land in CHINA!!! WOOT!) I've tried ALL of the fixes posted here at XDA and elsewhere. All of them seemed to help, but then I realized it was mostly a placebo effect. "742 people said this fix worked perfectly! It's gotta fix my GPS! Hey, it only took 17 minutes this time! YAY! It's all better!" Coming from a long line of HTC phones (G1, MyTouch, Nexus), I've come to expect good GPS performance, and I use maps and nav a LOT. (Well, I used to) I'm extremely disappointed in this, to the point that I will never buy another Samsung phone again.
The screen is AMAZING! The picture quality is intense, and it displays video so fluidly! I can't say enough good things about how beautiful it is! The screen difference is .4 inches, but it looks and feels like it's HUGE in comparison. I've never seen a screen on a cell phone that can show as deep black as this. If you set your phone up poroperly, you can have it on, but not be able to tell (ADW.Launcher/black wallpaper/no status bar/no icons/empty dock/dock open - Looks amazing!) It's such a nice display!
The phone SHOULD be WAY faster. the specs make the Nexus look old and dated. Of course, when you're used to touching an app shortcut, and it just HAPPENS, a 2-10 second lag seems like FOREVER! There are some MAJOR design flaws in the Vibrant, such as the 16 gig internal storage. It's a class 6, yes, but it's got VERY serious i/o issues, so almost everything that calls on the resources on it stalls and lags. (You'll see TONS of people who say there's no lag, but most of those people came from a dated phone, like a G1 or MyTouch. It's WAY faster than any of the older generation 1 or generation 2 phones, but it's painfully slow when you're used to the powerhouse known as Nexus. (2 seconds doesn't sound long, until you're trying to show off your phone, and you feel the need to explain that "it takes a second or two to load up, but when it does..." and you have TIME to explain that to someone while you wait. It's not nearly as snappy or responsive as it should be, considering this is a flagship device with specs to make most phones look like crap. SUPPOSEDLY, this phone is more powerful than a PSP, but the design flaws make it perform more like an NES. Once it gets going, it's GREAT, but it's the getting it up and running that sucks.
The phone does feel lighter, and cheaper, but it depends on your point of view if this is a good thing or a bad thing. I personally prefer the feel of the Nexus, because it feels more solid.
The loudspeaker on the Vibrant is WAY better than the speaker on the Nexus, although I have to think it something to do with the "hollow-ish" phone back echoing the sound, and therefore amplifying it somewhat, but I haven't tried a direct comparison with the phone backs off.
The Vibrant out-performs most phones on the market in terms of benchmark scores (linpak not included) however, if you were to perform a side-by side comparison of getting those benchmarks loaded up, you would likely have no doubt that the Vibrant is considerably slower. (I'm talking of the latest generation of 1ghz phones, like Nexus, DroidX, and EVO)
If the GPS (and compass, which is HOPELESSLY broken) and lag issues could be resolved, I think the Vibrant could be a contender as possibly the best phone on the planet, but in it's current form, it feels a lot like that funky cousin you try to avoid at family reunions. "Well, he came from a great family, and he's really smart, but he's just a bit off...I mean, look at him, he's pouring his soda into his shoes!"
Overall, I think in it's current state, the Vibrant can't hold a candle to the Nexus, and depending on the I/O issues, it may NEVER compare, but if they can get it running better, and make everything WORK, it will make the Nexus feel like a G1.
My choice for best phone: Nexus
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I had the nexus, and already I've had more problems with the nexus than I did the Vibrant, it's by far faster and more usable. I LOVED my Nexus, but still..seeing all the things wrong with it I definitely like the Vibrant better. True multitouch, super crisp clear screen where even Avatar looks like you're watching it in stereoscopic 3D. Everything has been superb. The GPS problem is a given and I read up before I bought. Still more satisfied, an yes battery life is better as I could never get a "full" days use out of my Nexus even with everything turned off.
I've picked up the Galaxy S so many times it's untrue. I like the screen and the speed and the open environment. I've very tempted to buy one SIM free and unlocked.
But ... and this isn't a troll ... I've read many comments about the GPS being unreliable and inaccurate (and that it locks up) and at £400 ($620 US) I'd need to be sure that it's going to work. For me, having access to the GPS is one of the best features now that locational services are expanding rapidly.
I've got an N95 which has lasted me for about three years and is still IMHO a good phone. I've also got an iPhone 3G that, really, feels too slick. Too sickly. Of course, their store is good. IOS4 also seems to have made it a dog performance wise.
I know that there are apparently hundreds of thousands of these so I'd expect to see adverse comments but given that Samsung is said to be offering a 'fix' soon, it seems like there really is an issue.
My N95 has lasted a long time and if I buy another premium phone it will need to do the same. I wonder if I should go for it or wait to see what the reputed HTC Desire HD has to offer in a few weeks time ? If it has the larger screen and double LED flash it could be a real winner if the price is right (not more than £450).
It won't last that long. The build quality is awful. I've had mine one month and the home button is already showing signs of wear. My N95 is still fine compared to this and my iPhone 3G is much better quality. I really regret buying this phone.
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It won't last that long. The build quality is awful. I've had mine one month and the home button is already showing signs of wear. My N95 is still fine compared to this and my iPhone 3G is much better quality. I really regret buying this phone.
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It does feel very flimsy but I've been telling myself that instead, it's 'light'
I still like the N95. I think that it still feels so good because Nokia did such a good job all that time ago - wi-fi, GPS, amazing camera resolution and lens, 3G, front-facing camera, etc, etc.
TBH, I've also looked at the iPhone 4. We've already bought one and yet again, the screen is dreamy and it's very fast with good apps but as a programmer in a former life, I've started to learn Java and have been playing with the Android SDK. I've only scratched the surface and I'm really quite excited about how much of the system resources are easily accessed with the APIs.
Hi,
i also thinking about to buy the galaxy 9000. The other phone is the HTC Desire.
The Desire has Android 2.2, the Galaxy the better display but maybe a GPS problem.
I should also have added that, I reckon, being a more recent device, the new (all speculation, of course) HTC Desire HD could end up with OS updates beyond those for the Samsung. Maybe those who know the companies better than me would disagree though.
Sorry, but my englis is not the best one. Can you repeat your answer in more easier english?
It's always nice practice to just lay it all out and weigh all the pros and cons of each device. That's what I did and I listed to much PROS in favor of the SGS. I'm not much of a GPS user anyway.
The GPS issues have been quite overstated and only really apply to aGPS when satellites are unavailable because you are either indoors or in a large city with buildings everywhere. They also only really effected the US models, and not the international I9000 or the Canadian version. I bought the first one when the store opened on launch day and I have not had any problems whatsoever with the GPS, it works pefectly, much better than the GPS on my old first gen galaxy and my gf's htc magic. Note that I am also running the original firmware.
Also, the aGPS problem for the US Galaxies has been figured out and mostly fixed by Samsung, I believe a couple of the models might still be waiting on a firmware update in Sept that will fix it for good. So I wouldn't let the GPS sway you, most people that are having problems are just not smart enough to enable the aGPS (it is disabled by default). Always take online rants with a grain of salt as often it is just the person doing something wrong.
As far as this phone vs the Desire?
CPU/GPU: Faster on the Galaxy (GPU is claimed to be up to 3x faster)
Screen: Flat out win for the galaxy, no comparison
Video: Galaxy = 720p, to my knowledge the desire does 480, possibly 720 with froyo?
Vid Output: Galaxy= HDMI, Composite, DLNA, Desire = none, maybe composite through 3.5mm jack?
Keyboard: Swype>Sense Keybo
Front Cam: Galaxy=Yes, Desire=No
Storage: Galaxy 16GB, Desire 0.5GB
Bluetooth: Galaxy = 3.0, Desire = 2.1
Wifi: Galaxy = N Desire = G
The Desire having 2.2 is not really a plus as the Galaxy is getting it next month and unofficial roms are already out.
The only positives I can find for the desire is the camera flash and I guess a matter of taste if you like it's design over the Galaxy, the Galaxy is a fair bit thinner though, and not much larger overall considering the screen size difference. You could say the camera flash is an advantage for the Desire, but the night mode works quite well on the Galaxy and if you've ever seen a pic taken with a mobile phone w/ led flash at night you'll know that it really doesn't help much anyways. It is more useful as a flashlight. I was dead set on the desire before the galaxy was announced, and Samsung easily changed my mind.
I had a N95 for 6 months. It just stopped working. They told me I had wet the thing. I hadn't. They told me I probably had it in the bathroom when showering, and the vapor could wet the thing. That I don't remember.
I like the sgs phone so far, and my gps works pretty ok and I never flashed any rom.
I'm loving this phone. I have a macbook pro and still like apple's computers.
Signs of wear on the home button? Do you mean light scratches? Scratches are unavoidable when you have shiny surface. The old iPods scratch ridiculously easily.
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Signs of wear on the home button? Do you mean light scratches? Scratches are unavoidable when you have shiny surface. The old iPods scratch ridiculously easily.
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What he means is that he is a troll. Torture tests on Youtube prove that the GS can survive virtually any beating, except unsubstantiated trolling.
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It won't last that long. The build quality is awful. I've had mine one month and the home button is already showing signs of wear. My N95 is still fine compared to this and my iPhone 3G is much better quality. I really regret buying this phone.
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There might be a batch with dodgy home button finish.. Mine is doing fine..
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Signs of wear on the home button? Do you mean light scratches? Scratches are unavoidable when you have shiny surface. The old iPods scratch ridiculously easily.
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After one month it is unacceptable to have a plastic button so scratched that it is matte. The quality of the plastics use on that thing is just plain below par.
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There might be a batch with dodgy home button finish.. Mine is doing fine..
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Yours, along with everybody else. Ignore the troll.
hxxp://android.modaco.com/content/samsung-galaxy-s-s-modaco-com/316002/quality-of-finish-on-the-galaxy-s-epic-fail/
Not a troll. Just speaking from my experience. And not the only one either.
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Not a troll. Just speaking from my experience. And not the only one either.
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I was also on the fence about buying a SGS. all this talk of bad build finish and inferior plastics is being hyped by the FEW not the many . Jausse`s link has Bad and good reviews so using that as corroboration is just nonsense . My contract is nearly up and I have spent the last month looking at reviews , videos and forums to help me decide wether to buy the SGS or the Desire and the SGS IMHO wins hands down. I`ll get the other half a desire as she loves sense Ui and thats the only reason I won`t be getting 2. One final thing the SGS has gorilla glass which means the screen is as tough as a phone screen can get. http://www.corning.com/news_center/news_releases/2010/2010082301.aspx
I bought the galaxy and I fine the phone amazing... What is wrong with the galaxy can be fixed by firmware updates unlike other phones you have to put up with it... Come september I'll have 2.2 on here and no gps issues (not that I've had any to begin with) here is where the phone is lacking: decent voip solution and decent middle east gps software. Both are software issues and can be fixed as for the build I've had mine about a month too and there are no marks on it the screen is not scratched even slightly and the home button is perfect I don't know how you managed to damage it in one month :s
This is my opinion and I've been using it very very intensely with wifi mms bluetooth (with headset too) developing apps calls tonnes of app usage too till now everything is working wonderfully
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iPhones get their home button's scratched up too, along with almost every other phone. It's a button though. Does it really affect your usability? It's time people start asking themselves what they wish to do with their device though, and how they use it. The back is strong (despite being plastic), and the touch panel is scratch resistant too. And yes, seen plenty of scratched up iPhones.
Why should you care how the home button looks? If the appearance of your phone affects your pride or your chances of picking up, perhaps you need to think things through, or you should buy the HTC legend instead..
I don't think whether the plastic gets scratches says ANYTHING about the quality used (besides, only the button and back seem to be plastic). Either way, the back can be replaced easily, so that's irrelevant, and unless you suspect the button will be destroyed by scratching, I don't think it will affect many people. So personally, whether the button scratches wouldn't affect my decision personally.. But that is just an opinion.
But I'd agree, you aren't trolling.. And people need to stop confusing trolling and negative opinions.
I've had mine for almost a month and there is no sign of wear or scratches whatsoever. Not sure what you're expecting as plastic will scratch, but there are numerous youtube videos demonstrating the durability of the screen. The home button may not be covered with the same gorilla glass so if you're keeping the phone in pockets with keys and change, it will get scratched. However I take relatively good care of mine and it has no scratches on the front or the back, I keep it in my pocket and set it on a variety of surfaces.
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The GPS issues have been quite overstated and only really apply to aGPS when satellites are unavailable because you are either indoors or in a large city with buildings everywhere. They also only really effected the US models, and not the international I9000 or the Canadian version. I bought the first one when the store opened on launch day and I have not had any problems whatsoever with the GPS, it works pefectly, much better than the GPS on my old first gen galaxy and my gf's htc magic. Note that I am also running the original firmware.
Also, the aGPS problem for the US Galaxies has been figured out and mostly fixed by Samsung, I believe a couple of the models might still be waiting on a firmware update in Sept that will fix it for good. So I wouldn't let the GPS sway you, most people that are having problems are just not smart enough to enable the aGPS (it is disabled by default). Always take online rants with a grain of salt as often it is just the person doing something wrong.
As far as this phone vs the Desire?
CPU/GPU: Faster on the Galaxy (GPU is claimed to be up to 3x faster)
Screen: Flat out win for the galaxy, no comparison
Video: Galaxy = 720p, to my knowledge the desire does 480, possibly 720 with froyo?
Vid Output: Galaxy= HDMI, Composite, DLNA, Desire = none, maybe composite through 3.5mm jack?
Keyboard: Swype>Sense Keybo
Front Cam: Galaxy=Yes, Desire=No
Storage: Galaxy 16GB, Desire 0.5GB
Bluetooth: Galaxy = 3.0, Desire = 2.1
Wifi: Galaxy = N Desire = G
The Desire having 2.2 is not really a plus as the Galaxy is getting it next month and unofficial roms are already out.
The only positives I can find for the desire is the camera flash and I guess a matter of taste if you like it's design over the Galaxy, the Galaxy is a fair bit thinner though, and not much larger overall considering the screen size difference. You could say the camera flash is an advantage for the Desire, but the night mode works quite well on the Galaxy and if you've ever seen a pic taken with a mobile phone w/ led flash at night you'll know that it really doesn't help much anyways. It is more useful as a flashlight. I was dead set on the desire before the galaxy was announced, and Samsung easily changed my mind.
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Thanks for the comprehensive reply I honestly got all stoked up again when you said that the the GPS issue only really affected the US models so I did a Google for 'Samsung Galaxy S GPS UK' to clarify that and guess what I saw. Yes, the same issue for over here
I originally I started out with the Att 8525, then moved on to the HTC Fuze, which was a great phone but I had some issues with it, after years of hardwork and abuse, so I needed to get a new phone. I eneded up getting the HTC Aria but I wasnt happy with the Android OS, so I just bought a Samsung Focus.
Now AT&T is releasing the HTC HD7s in a few weeks, so im thinking should I return the focus and just wait for the HTC HD7s instead?
The only complaint I have about the focus is the bluetooth dips in and out when I use it in my car.
Just want some thoughts and input on this, Thanks
I had the Hd7 on tmob and have a focus now. I prefer the focus for its screen and size. Both run about the same other than that. I would go in and put the focus up next to the Inspire ( Inspires screen is a little better than the tmob hd7 imho) but will give you an idea of size difference. All the rest will be the same with the exception of nodo lol. Not sure if we will ever get it and the hd7s comes with it
I love my Focus, but the S-LCD on the HD7 should give comparible performance. However, I think AT&T should start carrying more models with a hardware keyboard as well. The LG Quantum isn't bad, but it's not for me. I'm waiting on something similar to the HD 7 Pro.
HD 7 Pro, S-LCD screen, HSPA+ or LTE = perfection (or close to it).
I have to agree. The only thing you pick HD7s over Focus is the better chance to get updates. S-LCD makes it better than T-Mo HD7 screen but still not up to par with S AMOLED. Otherwise, both phones are about equal with the exception of storage (8GB on Focus vs 16 GB on HD7s). Given the multitude of problems with SD cards on Focus, you should just forget the expandability of storage on Focus.
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The only complaint I have about the focus is the bluetooth dips in and out when I use it in my car.
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My bluetooth goes in and out as well. Is this a known Samsung problem, I thought it was my headset but $50 later and I still have the problem.
I bought the samsung and haven't been happy with it, can find a working MicroSD for it. The Gorilla Glass is very scratchable (what gives). And now stories of the phone catching on fire. Let alone Samsung single handed derailing the whole phone update process.
I don't think I would recommend Samsung, go with the HTC you will get alot more dev resources over there as well.
Super LCD screens are comparable to AMOLED screens. The Super AMOLED technology is still superior to the S-LCD. You get deeper blacks and a much better contrast ratio on the Super AMOLED, but then again, the colors aren't as much over saturated on the S-LCD screen.
Windows Phone 7 (and the Metro UI) was clearly designed with Super AMOLED tech in mind, so I'd still favor that.
With that said, I must admit that my Samsung Focus did die on me, and now I'm just stuck with a brick because there isn't any community development going on the Focus (hence no ROMs) like there is for the HTC devicse.
I really loved my Focus, but I think I've had enough with Samsung devices for a while and HTC seems to be the better choice now.
I and eagerly looking forward to see how good the screen looks on HD7s. While I was happy with WP7 even though I miss Swype and GoogleTalk (multi-tasking) I just couldn't hold on to Focus for more than 2-3 weeks mainly because of the missing LED notification. I am so used to it on my X10.
It's strange that Samsung doesn't have LED notification on most of their phones. Also, Focus was my first Samsung phone and I couldn't stand that UGLY huge SAMSUNG label on the front of the phone.
Well this bluetooth issue with my phone going in and out, is really annoying and its unbearable to have a conversation on.
I believe it to be an issue with the phone, as all the other phones I had paired with my car, worked flawlessly.
I made up my mind to return the phone and exchange it for the Htc Hd7s, if its available in the next 30 days, if not then I will purchase it when it becomes available.
I also agree with there not being alot of support for this phone. There are soo many users and developers for HTC.
Thanks for the help guys
The bluetooth issue is a known issue for the phone, not your BT headset, although I'm not sure if it is Samsung specific or WP7 in general.
BTW, according to the spec sheet I found from AT&T site, HD7s only supports 850 and 1900 3G bands while Focus supports additional 2100 Mhz 3G band. This means you will not get 3G in Europe and most other countries and no signal what so ever in Jappen using HD7S. This is a bummer but not supprising beause the last HTC phone I owned (HTC Pure) also lacks 2100 band.
I have a Focus and a T9193 HD2 running WP7. I far prefer using the HD2, and I will be selling the Focus and getting the HD7S.
The build quality of the Focus is atrocious. It's a cheap piece of plastic, and I'm afraid it's going to break every time I need to swap SIMs. The HD2 is a far better built phone. The screen brightness of the Focus is nice, but it is noticeably smaller.
I hope the HD7S is at least close to the HD2 in build quality. I'm actually tempted to get a HD7 from Telstra to avoid whatever shenanigans AT&T is going to do with updates for the HD7S.
I also have a lot more faith in HTC hackers than Samsung hackers for getting things on the phone.
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I love my Focus, but the S-LCD on the HD7 should give comparible performance. However, I think AT&T should start carrying more models with a hardware keyboard as well. The LG Quantum isn't bad, but it's not for me. I'm waiting on something similar to the HD 7 Pro.
HD 7 Pro, S-LCD screen, HSPA+ or LTE = perfection (or close to it).
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Has to also include a 4" screen or no thank you.
Which WP7 is the best?
Hi guys, I want to ask for opinions which WP7 is the best. I was considering as the best the Focus model of Samsung mostly because of the S-AMOLED display, the MicroSD expansion slot, and the 1500mAh battery. But we dont have that phone in Europe, so if I want to get one I should buy it from USA. Here, in my country, on the market we have HTC Mozart, HTC HD7, and LG Optimus 7, so if someone can tell me which of these models is the "best" (I know that the word "best" is relative, but still ), or maybe it is worth to purchase Samsung Omnia 7 or Samsung Focus from abroad.
Tnx in advance .
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Hi guys, I want to ask for opinions which WP7 is the best. I was considering as the best the Focus model of Samsung mostly because of the S-AMOLED display, the MicroSD expansion slot, and the 1500mAh battery. But we dont have that phone in Europe, so if I want to get one I should buy it from USA. Here, in my country, on the market we have HTC Mozart, HTC HD7, and LG Optimus 7, so if someone can tell me which of these models is the "best" (I know that the word "best" is relative, but still ), or maybe it is worth to purchase Samsung Omnia 7 or Samsung Focus from abroad.
Tnx in advance .
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The advantage of Focus is just a microSD slot. Given that it doesn work for majority of microSD cards out there, do you still think it is an advantage?
Otherwise, Omnia 7 is quite similar to Focus. They both share the same screen and fast NAND storage. Unfortunately also the same crappy Samsung firmware that gave Mircosoft so much trouble to push the updates out (Samsung almost single handedly stop all MS WP7 updates).
So, if you like the screen and speed of Samsung phones, just pick up a Omnia 7 with 16GB of storage. Getting a Focus from US has following issues as well:
1. It is locked to AT&T and only a few places have unlock code for it.
2. Even if you get it unlocked, you still need to manually switch/re-configure the internet connections and MMS is a big headache to change.
3. It only supports one band of 3G for Europe (2100MHz). If your carrier of choice is not using 2100Mhz for 3G, your phone will only be running at much slower EDGE speed.
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Thank you very much foxbat121.Do you have any idea about the battery life of the Mozart and the HD7? I want to know how is the battery life of Mozart compared to HD7, whether the difference is big? If the difference is not so big, I will rather buy HD7 because of the larger screen (the camera is not so important to me ).
TestTest69 said:
I originally I started out with the Att 8525, then moved on to the HTC Fuze, which was a great phone but I had some issues with it, after years of hardwork and abuse, so I needed to get a new phone. I eneded up getting the HTC Aria but I wasnt happy with the Android OS, so I just bought a Samsung Focus.
Now AT&T is releasing the HTC HD7s in a few weeks, so im thinking should I return the focus and just wait for the HTC HD7s instead?
The only complaint I have about the focus is the bluetooth dips in and out when I use it in my car.
Just want some thoughts and input on this, Thanks
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I had the T-Mobile HD7 and loved it....hardware-wise, I mean. The AT&T HD7 will be even better with the S-LCD. My Inspire has that S_LCD and it's gorgeous. But I now have a Focus and really am appreciated the style of it. I'm a bit concerned about the SD card and camera, but am hoping, when the NoDo update gets here, they will be resolved.
50/50 on which ever way to go. I don't see any harm in either decision. The Focus screen is plenty large enough to be just as usable as the HD7 screen.
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Thank you very much foxbat121.Do you have any idea about the battery life of the Mozart and the HD7? I want to know how is the battery life of Mozart compared to HD7, whether the difference is big? If the difference is not so big, I will rather buy HD7 because of the larger screen (the camera is not so important to me ).
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Sorry I have no experience with those two. Currently, Samsung WP7 phones (Focus and Ominia 7) are top notch compared to HTC and LGs in following areas:
1. Speed. Samsung uses high speed NAND chip on the mother board for storage while others use cheap class 2 microSD cards (not user accessible without break the seal). As a result benchmarks consistently show two Samsung phones are faster than others when loading games and apps. Not sure what's the impact of NoDo on this.
2. AMOLED screen. Simply the best screen out there. The original HD7 comes with cheap low quality LCD and LG is similar. The new HD7s with SLCD is better but still not up to par with AMOLED screen, IMO.
3. Size, I've tried phones with different size screens. 4.3" is simply too big. 4" AMOLED screen is a perfect size balancing between screen size and portability.
The downside of Samsung is poor quality control and buggy firmware.
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Sorry I have no experience with those two. Currently, Samsung WP7 phones (Focus and Ominia 7) are top notch compared to HTC and LGs in following areas:
1. Speed. Samsung uses high speed NAND chip on the mother board for storage while others use cheap class 2 microSD cards (not user accessible without break the seal). As a result benchmarks consistently show two Samsung phones are faster than others when loading games and apps. Not sure what's the impact of NoDo on this.
2. AMOLED screen. Simply the best screen out there. The original HD7 comes with cheap low quality LCD and LG is similar. The new HD7s with SLCD is better but still not up to par with AMOLED screen, IMO.
3. Size, I've tried phones with different size screens. 4.3" is simply too big. 4" AMOLED screen is a perfect size balancing between screen size and portability.
The downside of Samsung is poor quality control and buggy firmware.
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You have any idea what class sd card would equal the Sammy NAND speed?
I have not done any speed test on the Focus NAND storage because there is no easy to do so. However, if my Samsung Captivate's built-in 16GB NAND storage is any indication of Focus' speed, it is easily class 6 or better. I've reached 8 to 9 MBps real world file writing speed when using it as a USB mass storage on a PC, on par with most class 6 SD cards. My class 2 16GB Micro Center branded microSD card is around 3 to 4 MBps.
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I have not done any speed test on the Focus NAND storage because there is no easy to do so. However, if my Samsung Captivate's built-in 16GB NAND storage is any indication of Focus' speed, it is easily class 6 or better. I've reached 8 to 9 MBps real world file writing speed when using it as a USB mass storage on a PC, on par with most class 6 SD cards. My class 2 16GB Micro Center branded microSD card is around 3 to 4 MBps.
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I never saw a class 6 Sandisk card in that compatible list. I might try one some time in the future but for now, the class 4 should be much better than the HD7's class 2 card. It should allow the Focus to run at least faster than the HD7.
If I were you, I won't use any microSD card in Focus for now. Those with NoDo updated didn't seem to improve this much. So, it remains to be seen that the microSD card issue can be fixed by a firmware update or not.
On my son's launch day Focus, my 16GB microSD card lasted about two months without problem. Then one day he reboots the phone and lost access to entire storage system. It's really a pain to re-configure your phone after two months of usage.
Just got a Focus a few days ago for my wife. It comes with newer firmware but I decided not to take the risk with microSD card again.
Hi all, I've received my new Galaxy s2 three days ago and I've faced a lot of the same problems that were affecting my first Sgs.
Here is a quick list:
1- Wifi poor reception (worse than sgs, desire,desire hd and Iphone 4)
2- Screen is blueish like my first sgs(In miu rom or cm7 it isn't blue because I can set the red color with voodoo color!!! so it's a faulty software calibration damn!!)
3- Gps lock is fast but not strong, it keeps disconnecting with Google navigator and works better with Sygic. Worse than Desire, Desire hd, Iphone 4, but better than my Sgs.
4-Random reboot!
5- Poor sound output through headphone!! Worse than all the other devices except Sgs, but since Supercurio realeased Voodoo sound it rocks!
I don't know if this problems could be solved by the community, but I am very frustrated. I put my trust in Samsung again and in the online reviews but now i fell betrayed.
I hope that I could return my phone to get another device but since htc locked its bootloaders I don't know what to choose...
I hope You all find my post useful if You are going to buy Sgs 2.
Could anyone that has Lg phone like optimus 2 tell me if this phone is good or if it has a lot of problems like galaxy 2?
not worth the effort of posting against a fixed viewpoint .
Deleted my phone works details as someone dont agree that out of a million phones sold some work ok .
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I've got one on order but all this disappointment is swaying me to cancel it and hold out with my iPhone 4 a while longer, there's nothing wrong with it to me anyway.
Don't return the phone, there's nothing wrong with it.
I've had 4 Galaxy S2's pass through my ownership so I think I'm pretty well equipped to say whats normal for these phones and whats not.
- Wifi
Wifi reception IS poor. My old HTC Desire and my girlfriends HTC Desire both get MUCH better range on the wifi than the Galaxy S2. The range on all the Galaxy S2's I've had has been the same - poor. This is a common complaint about the G2. Anyone who says they don't have this problem either has no idea what good wifi range is, or is just lying out of their ass.
- Screen
The screen does indeed have a blueish tint on it. There's a thread about it on these forums. Nothing we can do about that. Again, another common issue to all G2's.
Also the some other issues you have mentioned. Touch screen sensitivity is on the low side, you can tap the screen lightly and quickly enough so that it doesn't register an input. This is impossible to do on a HTC Desire.
Also the pixel response time is said to be 0.001ms by Samsung, but this is a load of crap. It works out closer to 6-8ms, as evident when scrolling black text on a white background (or vice versa) the text will blur slightly.
- GPS
The GPS is pretty poor at the moment, hopefully it improves with updates, majority of people are complaining about this, myself included. None of the 4 G2's I had could get a quick lock on GPS (they take flipping ages). The GPS is REALLY hit and miss at the moment.
- Random Reboots
This is a REALLY REALLY common issue. It's been reported everywhere. However, depending on the frequency of the reboots would determine whether or not I'd class it as faulty. Of all the G2's I've had, NONE of them have randomly rebooted. However if yours has rebooted like once or twice over the week, I'd count that as normal, happens on a few android phones. But if it does it anymore than that, get it replaced.
- Poor Sound Output
This is completely subjective. But I have an expensive amp and speaker setup that I use on my PC which I've got used to so I'm really picky about sound quality and yes I agree, the sound output is abit naff. But it's not terrible by any means. I can live with it.
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Hi all, I've received my new Galaxy s2 three days ago and I've faced a lot of the same problems that were affecting my first Sgs.
Here is a quick list:
1- Wifi poor reception (worse than sgs, desire,desire hd and Iphone 4)
2- Screen is blueish like my first sgs(In miu rom or cm7 it isn't blue because I can set the red color with voodoo color!!! so it's a faulty software calibration damn!!)
3- Gps lock is fast but not strong, it keeps disconnecting with Google navigator and works better with Sygic. Worse than Desire, Desire hd, Iphone 4, but better than my Sgs.
4-Random reboot!
5- Poor sound output through headphone!! Worse than all the other devices except Sgs, but since Supercurio realeased Voodoo sound it rocks!
I don't know if this problems could be solved by the community, but I am very frustrated. I put my trust in Samsung again and in the online reviews but now i fell betrayed.
I hope that I could return my phone to get another device but since htc locked its bootloaders I don't know what to choose...
I hope You all find my post useful if You are going to buy Sgs 2.
Could anyone that has Lg phone like optimus 2 tell me if this phone is good or if it has a lot of problems like galaxy 2?
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If you think desire and Desire HD has better sound, you need your ears checked.
Desire HD is horrid, absolutely horrid when it comes to sound. It does not even give you proper stereo effects. Its a disaster.
That 1 point made me ignore whatever rest you said.
I use it with miu rom and it comes with dsp that made the sound good. The only problems I have with Dhd is low ringtone( partially solved by kernel implemention) and incall volume very very low and distorted at full volume.
Someone thinks is possible a change if a return the phone in the first 7 days with another phone?
It sounds like you have a faulty device tbh.
I can't compare to all the devices you can but my girlfriend has a desire (on my recommendation.) The SGS2 is superior in every issue you're having. And i loved her desire. I was actually surprised how much of a leap the SGS2 felt like.
LawAce said:
I've got one on order but all this disappointment is swaying me to cancel it and hold out with my iPhone 4 a while longer, there's nothing wrong with it to me anyway.
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All new phones have issues. Actually ALL phones have issues period. This phone is actually getting hugely positive reactions from both reviewers and general users like myself. It always amuses me how some people can only focus on the negative comments
I'm extremely happy with my SGS2. Comparing it to my Nexus S, DHD, Dell Streak, SGT and HD7, I have no complaints at all.
I will buy the HTC Sensation/Pyramid when it comes out, which will be a mistake (locked bootloader), I will set it up and then put it in a drawer forever.
If anyone doesn't like their SGS2, simply take it back. I will be keeping mine. It is amazing.
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If you think desire and Desire HD has better sound, you need your ears checked.
Desire HD is horrid, absolutely horrid when it comes to sound. It does not even give you proper stereo effects. Its a disaster.
That 1 point made me ignore whatever rest you said.
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he is talking about the sound volume level thru headphones i believe. and since tons of other people claim the SGS2 has poor headphone volume, i think he is telling the truth. just look around the forum, the posts are everywhere.
Exactly I was talking about headphones...I think that I will try a substitution to see if another sgs2 is different
I used GPS + Google Nav for over 5 hours straight 2 days ago... not a single overshoot, random jump to an adjacent street, arrow spinning around at a stop light, lost signal, etc. I don't know what the GPS complaints are about as I also own an unbranded i9000, but the SGSII's GPS/Nav performance is VOLUMES better than the i9000 GPS was even with both software and hardware tweaks.
Agreed on the WIFI though, WIFI does seem a bit weaker, but then again, the SGS's WIFI wasn't that great either. The plus side is, I do find the mobile reception much better than the SGS... my house is at the edge of coverage, and I could barely get a signal at times with the SGS. SGSII pulls H+ with no problems at my house.
At the end of the day, you're packing in WIFI, multiple GSM/UTMS, bluetooth bands, GPS all into one very slim device with limited real estate, I figured one of the antennas would be weaker. This time around, it looks like it's WIFI that suffers.
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he is talking about the sound volume level thru headphones i believe. and since tons of other people claim the SGS2 has poor headphone volume, i think he is telling the truth. just look around the forum, the posts are everywhere.
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Heh, even I reported that volume is on lower side compared to other phones in that audio thread as soon as I got my SGS2.
But I would still take sgs2 volume over unacceptable stereo output of Desire HD.
Volume is actually sufficient if you have iems with decent isolation. Over ear headphones might be a problem.
Sent magically from Samsung Galaxy S 2.
Never have a single sudden reboot on my phone( maybe it reboots during my [email protected]@)
Coming from an ip4, the soud via headphone is rather bad, hopes voodoo will make it better
Nothing to complain with my phone.
drm111 said:
Don't return the phone, there's nothing wrong with it.
I've had 4 Galaxy S2's pass through my ownership so I think I'm pretty well equipped to say whats normal for these phones and whats not.
- Wifi
Wifi reception IS poor. My old HTC Desire and my girlfriends HTC Desire both get MUCH better range on the wifi than the Galaxy S2. The range on all the Galaxy S2's I've had has been the same - poor. This is a common complaint about the G2. Anyone who says they don't have this problem either has no idea what good wifi range is, or is just lying out of their ass.
- Screen
The screen does indeed have a blueish tint on it. There's a thread about it on these forums. Nothing we can do about that. Again, another common issue to all G2's.
Also the some other issues you have mentioned. Touch screen sensitivity is on the low side, you can tap the screen lightly and quickly enough so that it doesn't register an input. This is impossible to do on a HTC Desire.
Also the pixel response time is said to be 0.001ms by Samsung, but this is a load of crap. It works out closer to 6-8ms, as evident when scrolling black text on a white background (or vice versa) the text will blur slightly.
- GPS
The GPS is pretty poor at the moment, hopefully it improves with updates, majority of people are complaining about this, myself included. None of the 4 G2's I had could get a quick lock on GPS (they take flipping ages). The GPS is REALLY hit and miss at the moment.
- Random Reboots
This is a REALLY REALLY common issue. It's been reported everywhere. However, depending on the frequency of the reboots would determine whether or not I'd class it as faulty. Of all the G2's I've had, NONE of them have randomly rebooted. However if yours has rebooted like once or twice over the week, I'd count that as normal, happens on a few android phones. But if it does it anymore than that, get it replaced.
- Poor Sound Output
This is completely subjective. But I have an expensive amp and speaker setup that I use on my PC which I've got used to so I'm really picky about sound quality and yes I agree, the sound output is abit naff. But it's not terrible by any means. I can live with it.
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1) What you mean by wifi range? I always get full bar anywhere in my house except my backyard with 3 bars.
2) Screen? Don't really care about it. And I think average consumer too dont really care about the tint.
3) GPS locked in 3sec everytime i use it. Never got disconnect or any other problem.
4) Random reboots? Really? I've seen those thread about it but tbh i never encounter this kind of issues.
5) Sound quality is not important to me. A decent one would be enough. Without using earphone, I prefer SGS II than my DHD. But when using earphone DHD is much better. And yes this is very subjective.
After following a few thread about SGS II problem I'm glad that my SGS II doesn't have it. So far i'm happy with my phone and it does whatever I want. In the end of the day there is no perfect phone in this world and everyone wants more and more. Is hard to pleased tech gadget but I think for average consumer this phone is good enough at the moment.
i actually like this phone lol
I guess people from first batch was the lucky ones. I'm not having any of the listed issue.
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Nope, even people who got their GS2 on release have been having issues (like me)
oh maaan, i was about to purchase this phone in the coming month. and was expecting this phone's volume to be powerful just like my omnia hd. but.... it disappointed me, sh......t wat the hell is this. ok is there any one who can confirm whether this problem [ headphone volume] can be fixed by xda xperts .plzz
weird. no problems here, and I had two gs2's, since the first one had a dead pixel, so I exchanged it.
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oh maaan, i was about to purchase this phone in the coming month. and was expecting this phone's volume to be powerful just like my omnia hd. but.... it disappointed me, sh......t wat the hell is this. ok is there any one who can confirm whether this problem [ headphone volume] can be fixed by xda xperts .plzz
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I think I saw in code somewhere in GS2, don't remember where, that it sets limit because of EU(we have laws for max. volume). I think we'll have to look that way, but it seems to be a good reason.
With PowerAmp & EQ "Phone Speaker Loud" it is loud enough for me .
Hi,
I'm considering upgrading my captivate to atrix and I wanted to know if there are any known issues?
I'll explain what I mean:
My first android phone was Xperia X10. Little did I know, the phone was awesome overall but the battery barely lasted a day and all the sony phones had locked bootloaders which means almost no customization in ROMs and pretty bad performance and battery life.
After that I moved to my Capty.
With all the benefits of the remarkable amoled screen, the capty has some severe GPS issues.
By severe I mean not working at all.
Not only that but I switched about 11 or so ROMs until I found one that's mostly functioning. (still without GPS).
All these unsatisfying experiences made me even consider going back to iProducts... And I would NEVER do that again.
What I want to know is not how remarkable Atrix is, trust me I've read enough praises.
I need you to tell me what do you dislike about the phone. Whether it's the slow updates from moto, the build quality, signal quality, GPS, annoying browser, or any other thing that doesn't work or displeases you in any way.
Sorry for this wall of text, I wouldn't want another disappointment.
Thank you for your patience.
To skip what I love about it and move straight to what I do not:
- I'm not a huge fan of the Pentile display... though if you're coming from a Captivate then that's not a downgrade.
- Motorola are definitely slow with software updates (Gingerbread has not even landed in Europe yet). Though of course Cyanogenmod is nearly complete so who really cares?
- I used to have a Galaxy S and I know they hardware accelerated the web browser. I do miss that (assuming Sammy did the same with the Captivate). Having said that, I use Opera these days and that's pretty smooth anyway. And of course, when we get ICS they should all get hardware acceleration.
- The battery life is OK, but I just think it should be better with the 1930mAh battery.
- Why did they make the power button so awkward to use?!
The hardware seems pretty bullet proof to me - I'm not aware of anything that's actually broken like the Galaxy S line of GPS woes. When it's coupled with a completely stable Cyanogenmod build we should be good to go.
I get random reboots, failed to initiate camera, failed to initiate fingerprint scanner, and sometimes the display takes a minute to turn on, even though I can hear the sound of the fp scanner unlocking the display. This is usually a sign that the phone is going to reboot itself soon.
I consider motoblur to be a problem.
With the phone itself, none for me (power user) or my father (casual). Had them since shortly after public release.
Definitely have not experienced any of the above posters issues. If you are on a 100% stock system then your phone needs to be sent in. If its custom, reconsider your setup. A stock atrix should not have those issues.
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a huge upgrade from the Captivate.
excellent GPS, brighter screen, no burn ins.
Only problem I have with it is that the screen at random times can be too sensitive to touch and the fact that you cant hold it down for longer than 15 seconds
facetubespam said:
a huge upgrade from the Captivate.
excellent GPS, brighter screen, no burn ins.
Only problem I have with it is that the screen at random times can be too sensitive to touch and the fact that you cant hold it down for longer than 15 seconds
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Lol. what's the deal with the 15 second rule?
And so far it sounds quite like the thing I'm looking for.
One more question though. I really want the laptop dock, do custom ROMs work with it? How does it work in general?
15 second rule is Motorola's aytempt fo prevent a water drop causing touch screen failure.
Webtop works with most cuatom ROMs just not CM.
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Well, it seems like I'll be joining the atrix club pretty soon
best darn phone i've had
I was about to get an S2 but the xda developers never cease to make this one heck of a phone. My phone was solid from day one and so make sure that your phone is solid hardware wise while it's still under warranty. The only bad experiences I've come accross were from devices with hardware issues. With all of the custom roms and development on this phone i think this phone will be a worthy contender for a while. I gotta say that although the recent motorola gingerbread update is a huge improvement, this device is amazing with a custom rom. There are roms out there for every need so read and review carefully. I think the main differences in regards to what you will want to customize the phone with will hinge on the camera/camcorder
function and how much Blur functionality you need to have.
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I get random reboots, failed to initiate camera, failed to initiate fingerprint scanner, and sometimes the display takes a minute to turn on, even though I can hear the sound of the fp scanner unlocking the display. This is usually a sign that the phone is going to reboot itself soon.
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My fp scanner doesn't make any sounds, it vibrates couple times and it's pretty responsive. I got the phone since day one and don't have any of those problems.
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My fp scanner doesn't make any sounds, it vibrates couple times and it's pretty responsive. I got the phone since day one and don't have any of those problems.
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I mean the unlocking sound. That click that occurs when you successfully unlock the phone. I get the sound, but the display stays off.
The call quality could be a little better. I get a lot of huhs and whats on the other side of the phone.
Having came from a captivate I have to say my only real issue with this phone is MOTOBLUR. I still have nightmares about it from when I was using the BACKFLIP (I love how moto puts their products in all caps). Its no where as near as bad on the ATRIX though. Custom launchers took away my wowes. Having the power/unlock button in the middle and slightly inlaid at the top of the phone was a big adjustment but unlocking my phone with a swipe of my finger stopped me from thinking about it too much. I've had a couple random reboots but they all seem to come from me overheating the phone. (My ATRIX is good about being on the charger and finding it's way under clothes or a blanket so this seams to be more me messing up rather then the phone). Im coming up on my one month ann. Of having the ATRIX and not once have I felt the need to go back to my captivate
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atrix is quite a decent phone overall, but do have a few flaws
its kinda heavy, holding atrix in one hand and sg2 on the other, atrix feels like a brick...
battery dont last as long as suggested, i came from zte blade, used to last me a day and a half, but atrix last me just a day even with it 1930mah battery. (and alarm manager keeping the phone awake seems to be a common problem)
but other than that, its a pretty good phone, it will be even better when the fingerprint scanner is compatible with cm7
Well I wasn't very happy from day 1 but it's a good phone. Now after few months I have to send for repairs as the digitizer is f**** up. If I could go back in time I wouldn't go for the atrix. I guess I love sense ui too much and asop or blur is too ugly for me.
I've had the phone for almost a week now. It's going to be "keep" instead of "return" for me, but just barely. I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy S i9000 that was running on Darky's ROM Extreme Edition.
What I don't like:
1. The screen. Call me spoiled by the blacks and brightness of the SAMOLED of Samsung.
2. For a Dual Core phone, it sure is sluggish. Well at least compared to the SGS2. I can't believe that it's almost running, if not slower, than my Galaxy S.
3. Still on 2.2.2 (at least in the UK). We're already talking about Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) and there's still no 2.3.5 (even 2.3.4!) in sight.
4. Like the SGS, it won't play eAAC+ encoded music (you know, the 64kbps encoded stuff that sound like they're 160kbps MP3's, it was so great).
5. Screen sensitivity. Not really as fluid as the SGS. I think this may be down to me just used to the Samsung timing on the screen.
What I like about it:
1. The screen. Love the resolution! It makes a difference, and I think this was one of its saving grace for me keeping the phone.
2. Battery life. Significantly better than the SGS, and this is with all my 12 email accounts on PUSH and everything.
3. The build! I like its slightly heavy build. I won't buy a phone without Gorilla Glass ever again. My previous SGS was thrown so many times (at full force) by my kid and it still rocks! My wife has it now.
4. Fingerprint scanner. Not perfect, but why can't all phone have this?! It is just so logical.
5. The speaker on this phone is nice, I can listen to rock music and hear a lot more things than my SGS.
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Please Motorola, give us 2.3.4/2.3.5 already! Or at least dangle a carrot in front of us (tell us when!).
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a huge upgrade from the Captivate.
excellent GPS, brighter screen, no burn ins.
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Yeah, it's true. I just additionally emphasise not only the GPS but also all other radio functions such as gsm signal, wifi, bluetooth work excellent. My AT&T Atrix is the best phone which has nearly all-sided pros. I've been used.
There is only one weak-point (though this depends on the individual view of diffetent user) is the pentile screen technology. Such a thing is well known as an advanced technology which offers the high brightness and the high contrast of the screen with noticeable power save. But in other side, it includes the disavantage that is also well known as an issue, it's the "pixel-grains" phenomenon when you look closely and deeply on some small icon eg. clock, signal bars icon... But with many people, this issue is acceptable.
Only problem I have with it is that the screen at random times can be too sensitive to touch and the fact that you cant hold it down for longer than 15 seconds
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I've never face this problem on both stock and custom roms, for example HomeBase, Alien, CM7, the great roms I've had a long time using
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The.Opethian said:
I've had the phone for almost a week now. It's going to be "keep" instead of "return" for me, but just barely. I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy S i9000 that was running on Darky's ROM Extreme Edition.
What I don't like:
1. The screen. Call me spoiled by the blacks and brightness of the SAMOLED of Samsung.
2. For a Dual Core phone, it sure is sluggish. Well at least compared to the SGS2. I can't believe that it's almost running, if not slower, than my Galaxy S.
3. Still on 2.2.2 (at least in the UK). We're already talking about Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) and there's still no 2.3.5 (even 2.3.4!) in sight.
4. Like the SGS, it won't play eAAC+ encoded music (you know, the 64kbps encoded stuff that sound like they're 160kbps MP3's, it was so great).
5. Screen sensitivity. Not really as fluid as the SGS. I think this may be down to me just used to the Samsung timing on the screen.
What I like about it:
1. The screen. Love the resolution! It makes a difference, and I think this was one of its saving grace for me keeping the phone.
2. Battery life. Significantly better than the SGS, and this is with all my 12 email accounts on PUSH and everything.
3. The build! I like its slightly heavy build. I won't buy a phone without Gorilla Glass ever again. My previous SGS was thrown so many times (at full force) by my kid and it still rocks! My wife has it now.
4. Fingerprint scanner. Not perfect, but why can't all phone have this?! It is just so logical.
5. The speaker on this phone is nice, I can listen to rock music and hear a lot more things than my SGS.
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Please Motorola, give us 2.3.4/2.3.5 already! Or at least dangle a carrot in front of us (tell us when!).
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Points 2, 3, 5 on your dislike section easily fixed with custom ROM.....
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Points 2, 3, 5 on your dislike section easily fixed with custom ROM.....
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After I have rully charged my phone, I will endeavour to get the latest CM7 on it sir. A pity about the fingerprint scanner, but not a dealbreaker for me.
Also, found out that because this is running a Tegra 2 processor, it's very picky with media files. Can't seem to play a lot of the MP4/MKV files I use to play easily with the SGS.
Yes, I would say the biggest problem with the Atrix is movie codec support. Coming from a Captivate myself I envisioned downloading a nice 720p movie, tossing it on the phone and playing it on my bigscreen. Not so. Hardware accelerated codecs are awful, it'll basically playback SD DIVX and H.264 everything else requires transcoding. Personally I think this is why Android tablets lag so far behind the iPad, what use is a consumption device if you can't consume media?
I would recommend any Motorola with the OMAP dual core and non pentile display such as the Bionic or Atrix 2.