Note: I am not 100% sure that my problem is related to tethering. This is simply a hypothesis based on a limited amount of data. My problem could be related to any number of things.
That being said, I have experienced very poor call quality after extended periods of tethering, possibly related to my phone overheating. My phone usually runs anywhere from 90-95F as reported by CurveFish's BatteryLife app. After extended periods of tethering, I frequently go from 105-113F. On several occasions, friends have reported very poor voice quality. They say I keep "cutting out," as in the quality is fine, then it fades out to a very low volume. I have only had this complaint after extended periods of tethering.
Once again, the two could be completely unrelated. It could be a total coincidence. Perhaps I'm having issues with T-Mobile's network, or there is a problem with my phone. I'm not sure yet. I'm posting this to see if other's have had similar issues so I can begin to properly diagnose my problem.
Youre not tethered while talking on the phone though right?
JoshHart said:
Youre not tethered while talking on the phone though right?
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Yes, sometimes. This is with 3g, which as far as I know, should be able to handle it. It was never a problem on my G1.
I have also had issues immediately after I stop tethering.
I mean Im sure if its while youre tethered of course it could interfere thats a lot of processing and your connections only so fast depending on what youre doin on your comp you could be maxin it out. Right after I dont know unless its still trying to send packets or something. Ive never tried this but I will when I get a chance, i have 2 lines so I can call myself and see what it sounds like on both ends.
Has anyone else had this issue? I'm starting to think it's completely unrelated to tethering and I think I may have simply gotten a defective phone. I cannot describe how frustrating it is for people to constantly say "Hello, Hello?" or ask me if I have them on speakerphone. I'm constantly told that I cannot be heard.
I just spent $560 for a neat little mobile device that doesn't work as a PHONE.
Please forgive me if this has already been asked, I tried searching several different ways for this and so far have had no results. This is also a two part question and mini-rant/background info into the issues I've been having with this phone.
So first off I'm wondering if any one happens to know how to access (or if it exists/enabled) the field test mode. The code for the Samsung SGH-i607, *#0011# brings up the test mode but only info you can get is the email and phone # for, my best guess, a Samsung dev. I know I can get the signal level from Status but I was hoping for some more info like SNR and such.
Now for the second question and mini-rant;
I'm not new to the cellular game or Android, in fact I just switched to Sprint from T-mobile (had the G1) because Sprints service is by far superior to T-mobiles out here. Yet this phone makes it quite the contrary, reception fluctuates wildly and even drops totally no matter what I do or where I am and this kills the battery with in a few hours of a full charge. Heck even Sprint's customer care hung up on me twice because they couldn't hear me...
I really want to believe this can be solved with a radio update or new ROM because I love this phone but the DI07 update hasn't made a difference as far as I can tell.
Before I return it and swap it out for a new one or possibly an Evo 4G I figured I might as well ask to see if any one has any advanced tricks/hacks/advice I can try before I do.
Thanks for taking the time to read this and if this is in the wrong forum, duplicate, or what not let me know and I'll remove it.
Kawauso
Alright, so I have posted on this before, and thought I had it solved... WRONG! So the problem is anytime I go to use data without wifi, it'll reset the phone for some reason. Already tried every radio, and that didn't do it. I've tried 3 different SD cards, even without cards. So if I never setup a data connection the phone works great. As soon as I setup that connection it just starts rebooting. VERY annoying! Especially when trying to show it off lol.
Can anyone chime in on this? Is this normal?
very odd, actually, i would have said nope never heard of it up until 3 min ago when i downloaded a program from the marketplace, left my screen on and didnt touch it and zap, of it went, up to then ive never had an issue at all, i hope it doesnt persist. I think its unlikely an SD issue, but it could be, if you can always reproduce the issue then its likely a system bug, if its random then its more likely to be memory/SD issues.
Hi guys i had the same issue on my TMOUS device and i still have it... but its only when i use my 16gb san disk memory card
So that is SD card issues for yourself then,
intrestingly ive worked out that if i fill up my card a couple of hundred MB more i dont have the issue, take the files off again and it has problems, So ive run it through some tests and there is nothing wrong with it, i can only assume that for one reason or another the OS does not like a particular portion of the card...even though i cant find any issues with it, all i can assume is that there is some performance issue in that sector, not enough to create errors on the PC but below what WP is needing.
Wow that's strange... And yes, I can replicate the same situation consistently. It's always Data for some reason. I just can't tell if it's upload or down
Ok one thing I do notice... It will reboot MUCH easier with specific radios. Others will last much longer before they reboot.
try dumping a few 100MB of music on, if its anything like mine it may be enough to get it working,
To be honest there is so many different stories on here with various issues, including one from myself i dont think there can be a single answer, if a different radio works better than thats one step, try filling more of your SD that another step, keep building it up until you get somewhere, dont think there is much more i can suggest im afraid, sorry!
Ok here it is
i had a very long and informative conversation with three.
basically she told me that three throttle people from their side on a personal basis ie they manually check what your data usage is and make a decision to throttle you.
heres the conversation i had unedited. you might have to dl it and turn your volume up also make a dropbox acct not sure on that but i use mxplayer set to software mode for the extra volume and on 32bit display settings any how happy listening
http://db.tt/C1JKlFqo
Transcript on way shortly
long awaited transcript for those who cannot here it properly
here goes its long (21 pages of little square note paper lol) so.i edited little words out ie most of the ummms n rrrrrrrs lol and left the relevent ones if.for.emphasis lol titles will be (me). (woman).
here goes
me:"Could i speak to a manager please?"
woman:"Any reason why you want to speak to a manager?"
me:"fed up of being hung up on, allready spoke to u afew times and been hung up on."
woman:"sorry about this can i take your name?"
me:"yes its.... ive already put my pin in."
woman:"i'll just check whats happening, hang on one sec. (pause) your experiencing slow speeds on your phone when downloading anything on your phone? hang on a sec while i just check that for you, just hold the line a sec."
(on hold music 30secs ish)
woman:" thanks for waiting i believe its related to stop currently managing speeds so you need to enter the neccessary info so to a live share of our networks so obviously your getting speeds of upto 2kbps right?"
me:"yes" (near enuf is what i was thinking about her half baked reply. more of those lol)
woman:"which is fine, what ive done is we need to send info accross our network team who keep a tab on your speeds and so on, and so as a matter of fact we will get more info from them so we need some time off you."
me:"well this was allready supposed to be happening a few days ago now, it was supposed to be sortesd today but it hasn't."
woman"well i appologise for the delay but we are trying our best to sort it dont worry we've got your details and the required department, infact the manager will send the details off to that department who will give us more info indepth as what will happen and so on they will help us and get back to us, sorry you".
me:"right, cos ive been reading around and read that you've started throttling people?"
woman:"what do you mean by throttling people? sorry i didnt get that."
me:"yeah, that you've been throttling peoples speeds on the internet."
woman:"ok i give you the jist of what the exact update is, give me a minute stay on the line a minute."
(wkd silence for a min woman"stay on the line please")
(woman returns)
woman:"we have info on our website on any info releating to web traffic."
(pause a second)
woman:"i can give you the link where you can keep track on any of your updates and see whats going on, obviously we arent able to let the 1% of people know in advance so this helps us ensure all of our customers get a fair share of our network so we currently double up and improve if this is why its happening.
me:"right so you are actually throttling people right?"
woman:"we are running trials of this in terms of high internet usage so we ran a particular file and we are looking into parts of those files so that other networks....we've done this accross our network that affects different people. we are always able to let people know about these at the same time."
me:"i thought you were'nt supposed to throttle, i thought it was unlimited inernet and all the rest of it?"
woman:"it is unlimited internet, it's not that we're saying it's not unlimited it is unlimited theres no errrrr. we're not letting you not use your unlimited internet we're just trying to manage the traffic of the using of the people around."
me:"so in other words your throttling the peoples speeds, then i thought you wer'nt allowed to do that?"
woman:"see we continuously yerrrr you know in terms of our t and c's let us have traffic management policy."
me:"right"
woman:"so if you check now t and c's if it's regards to our traffic management policy you'll see whats going on."
me:"right where do i find these then?"
woman:"you can i will check if you wait a minute its www.co. one sec, three.co.uk/trafficsense
me:"how come its only affecting people on tethering and not people who are usin the internet? coz the http transfers are ok and stuff like that its just when i try to tether it becomes really x2 slow and it's just unmanageable basically?"
woman:"so your saying only when you tether its slower as opposed to when your on your handset. hold the line please ( one sec lol 30 seconds)
woman:"thanks for waiting spoken to one of our tech team they said for a more faster experience on your browser as opposed to tether, if you want faster speeds look at mobile bb package."
me:"i'm already on the oneplan which includes tethering."
woman:"yes"
me:"which includes stuff like that so should that not affect the speed because technically it's still your network?"
woman:"yes but at the same time i've told you about the trafficsense, we manageing this and with regards to this we have to give a fair polocy to everybody."
me:"right"
(long pause here i rannoutta things to say lol)
woman:"coz you only mention this about if you continue to use that are you getting error message by any chance?"
me:"it's just running really really slow like i say its unmanageable by myself, i cant do any testing or anything it's perminately like being blocked at all times of the day really. i've had speeds of 20kbps forra few dayz now its really irritating."
woman:"yes i understand, im afraid thats the limitation i can suggest coz we've got so many customers in your are we have to manage everybody on a (some word i cant make out) package (sounds like sackage to me lol) . we look at everybody on a personal basis so we looking at everybody manually and thats how our traffic is managed efficiently."
me:"right so when am i going to get unblocked if its on a manual........"
woman:"sorry i beg your pardon"
me:"so when am i going to get full speeds back if your looking at it from a personal point of view on your side, then you should be able to answer really."
woman:"yes in regards to this i'll just get back to you, hold the line please."
me:"yes"
(more awsome music lol)
woman:"thanks for waiting, i've just checked again with technical team they mentioned that the tethering speeds will always be slow on your phone."
me:"right"
woman:"and more important i would advise you clear certain data on your pc if increase your memory is full, i would suggest deleting certain items on your pc and then try that would also help certain space, really.r
me:"well i already standard delete cache, cookies etc and im only using my phone anyway as its software im using just mimics tethering you see, so i can set ota updates and stuff like that but like i said since i've been cut down to 20kbps i cant recieve ota updates and stuff because itz too slow basically."
woman:"this has been sent to the tech team so you dont worry we are trying to help you and the manager has sent too and we'll get this sorted for you on a personal note, if you wish i can get back intouch to you once i get a reply would you like this?"
me:"yes"
woman:"certainly my name is diego like marradonna (lol)
me:"yeah yeah"
woman:"allright i will definately get intouch with you in 24 to 48 hours once i receive word. ok."
me:"ok, like i said this should have been sorted a few days ago and someone should be doing this today."
woman:"yes i understand what with you calling us back you (coff coff probably splutter) didnt need to call us because we know whats going on i just want to thank you for the inconvenience caused so we will try our best."
the end
this is actually what she said ummmms and rrrrs are real so is cofff cofff lol
So I've had my S5 for a few months now. It's basically been a dream for the time being.
Now the phone is pissing me off the same way the S4 pissed me off...
Battery life is totally fine, absolutely no complaints at all. My phone lasts for ages except for when I play tons of games on it.
Performance however is quite slow (probably due to lack of RAM).. despite running fstrim, cleaning cache on a weekly basis and using apps like Greenify etc.
The worst thing however is the ridiculous issues I am having with 3G/Data.
I am unsure if it is just my carrier (The largest network in Finland (SONERA)) or if it is my phone.
I made a video here of the EXACT SAME issue with Wifi (data is even WORSE):
http://youtu.be/2zNBV63Dk0U
Basically you see the first 2 pages load up pretty fast. Then what's with the wait on the rest of those pages whilst they are loading?
The speed of my network is 10MB/s up and down. It's a symmetric connection. It shouldn't be slow at all, and ping times are tiny. So why is it taking so long for my phone to resolve the website, regardless of the browser and method of connection (data or wifi) that I use?
Basically my phone will just switch between 3G and H/H+ continuously without actually being connected, or loading pages etc.
So basically I'll be in the middle of the capital city, on Finland's LARGEST network connected to 3G with FULL bars and not have a connection. Yet all around me, people are using their phones without remotely any issue at all on the same network..
Some information about my phone:
Galaxy S 5 (SM-G900F). Stock ROM, never flashed. Towelrooted.
4.4.2. - Baseband G900FXXU1ANE2
Build - KOT49H.G900FXXU1ANE4
Stock Kernel
80+ User Apps installed
Xposed Framework installed
The biggest issue I have is the fact that the Data connection just sucks in 2G or 3G. There's just this huge lag between loading any webpage, where there is literally ZERO data being transferred (I have the speed indicator xposed app), yet the icon just flashes back and forth from 3G to H to H+ and back. No matter what browser I use, and even often on Wi-Fi it's just terrible and there is STILL a huge wait time between pages actually loading. However apps at least seem to download totally fine.
I have my Buffalo N300 router on Wireless N. I am NOT running at 5Ghz, because it drains more battery. My 3G plan is set to 21Mbps, and I should have no throttling or cap. However I RARELY seem to see speeds over 250KB/s and in the centre of Helsinki or anywhere in the outlying (2-3km areas) there's just no data transfer at all. Full bars, but in some cases the entire network will just cut out and say that it is unavailable.
Could it be an issue with my phone's Modem? Could I just flash a newer modem over the current one that I have? The phone is running stock and it shouldn't be so slow, no matter what.
My stupid provider just suggested that I change to a more expensive 4G plan (yeah right, 3G on other providers was never remotely laggy)
Any ideas guys? I'll give you any information that you need to help me out...
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Well what info do you want from me?
I posted a video of how the pages load so slowly even on Wifi. I told you my router. It's a Buffalo N300. I don't have 5Ghz mode on. It's set to Wireless N. My internet speed is 100/100mbps. I think that is plenty of information.
I also gave my complete phone specs. My knox is 1x1 yes. I gave my baseband etc. above.
What exactly do you need to know about my configuration? It's set to use 3G always. I always seem to have bars of 3G (even if it won't connect) but there is NO data transfer at all. You can see in the video that the speed indicator in the taskbar doesn't show any data being transferred. There's just this large amount of time that it does nothing. The page loading/connection stalls and I have to wait. I've tried multiple browsers too like I said, and more than 1 Wi-Fi network.
If I swap back to 3G or 2G (WCDMA/2G) mode. Then the phone still stays on 3G 99.99% of the time, but there's still NO data transfer. On 2G it will work just slow enough that I can send a whatsapp message. But it won't load a webpage, not even slowly.
My carrier I also explained.. Sonera, the biggest carrier here in Finland, I also even explained the data plan I am on. 3G, 21mbps, no throttling, etc.
P.S. The speedtest in my signature, is my HOME WIFI connection. It has NOTHING to do with my data connection. I'm not talking about my DL speed or throughput, besides those are the speeds I get on my COMPUTER. I get slower speeds on my phone. I am talking about the LAG that I get when I try to open a page. I.E. Why does my phone just stall loading something and make me wait for ages for it to finish? Why does my connection just stop, and page loading just stop 40%-60% or whatever through loading something?
What extra info do you need? You keep saying 'phone congifuration' but I just gave you basically everything. What specific 'phone configuration' info do you need to know?
You know what phone I have, exactly what version, how it is rooted, etc. You know my data provider, my wifi and data speeds. You know the issue that I am explaining that I am experiencing and how it happens. Plus a bunch of other information, what is installed on my phone, my router and its set up. etc. etc. etc.
What more do you need?
Thanks for your reply but. Frankly I think I provided more information than most people do about their problems here.
P.S. Here's another video which shows me getting 12.5x slower speeds than I should be:
http://youtu.be/N0aTikEPbPM
Excuse the exasperation and that accompanies my Australian accent
I got some data issues too.in H+ data just won't move like it should.
I'm using saunalahti.
When i open a web page my 3g turns to h+ . I think that's the way i should work
because nothing happens with 3g.
Nothing mostly happens with my 3G either, it has to be on H to do anything. I am starting to think it's an issue with 'Fast Dormancy' and I might go ahead and disable that.
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Yes, you provided considerably more information than most people. Kudos if that makes you feel any better. However as I explained at length it still isn't nearly enough to effectively troubleshoot much. I also spelt out what would be useful to have. Having 60% of the details doesn't complete a puzzle significantly more than 40% would. It narrows things down a bit but you're still in the land of guessing and throwing out common issues hoping that one of them will turn out to be the problem at hand.
There are lots of people who will be happy to pseudo-randomly guess at the problem. And you can try each suggestion in turn until you hopefully hit upon the right one. I'm more interested in methodical troubleshooting which requires much more detailed information. As I described what would facilitate that and you still ask what do I want, I can only assume that you missed reading part of my earlier reply.
Regardless you can either post the details I requested or wait for others to point out how to address commonplace issues that may or may not help your situation.
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Are you for real? Practically all of your replies here are "You haven't given us enough information"
You practically know my phone and my data and Wi-Fi as well as I do, from what I have explained.
Now your reply is just paragraphs of you blabbering on about how I still haven't given you enough information for you to help me. If you think you're being constructive here or something replying like this to other people, you really aren't mate. Yes you did explain at length, three times that I didn't give you enough information. Yet you failed, to explain even ONCE exactly what information you want. Except to say "phone configuration" I mean seriously what? That's the most broad term you could possibly use on the forums here. I've explained my phone config, and- actually you know what, I won't do it again. I've explained everything so much and posted TWO VIDEOS of the issues that I am facing. If you seriously don't know enough about my problem then, with all due respect you are of absolutely no help to me what-so-ever.
The worst thing is, I'm usually a patient person and I am grateful for the help I get from other people in the forums here and anywhere else. But every-so-often someone like you comes around and I can't, for the life of me, even fathom as to how to even communicate with you. All of the information is right there in front of you to provide a second opinion or give your personal advice. Yet you're sticking with "You haven't provided enough information". There's nothing else I can do buddy, save actually giving you my phone and letting you look at it.
Also the way at which you seem to post in that I only seem to have 2 options here is really quite ridiculous. That I can either choose to give you more information (What information EXACTLY?) or basically just wait for other people to guesstimate what the issue could be (which I was totally fine with).
If you mean this information:
Or do any testing that might have revealed patterns in your data and wifi rates e.g. speed and latency tests at different times of the day
- What's the point? I explained here and in the videos that this has been happening all the time, for the past month.
with different providers
- I don't have another data provider to test with, I'm not made of money
direct comparisons to other phones on the same connection
- How the f*ck can I get stuff like this? I'm one person on my own, do you suppose I go stand out on the side of the road with a sign on a highway?
ping plots, service menu details about which bands are active and actual signal strengths or anything like that
- Do I look like a scientist to you? How am I supposed to know, and the phone doesn't give me any sort of way natively to even know any of this information
did you do any searches of forums dealing with specific providers e.g. BBR, Hofo, to see if anyone else is having provider issues?
- Yes and lots of people are having the same issues, even someone else replied to this thread stating he had the same issue
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That is a ridiculous amount of stuff to ask from someone and I have either given you the details already, or you're asking something that isn't physically possible for me to do.
Personally, I think you're going about this whole 'helping people' thing the wrong way. Like there is some choice between getting your 'professional' advice or something or basically just taking hints and suggestions here and there. I don't remotely agree with the way you post on the forums here. I've provided umpteen times more information than just about anyone else on the forum here, and no, that isn't a compliment to myself. It's a fact.
Ugh, this whole situation is just absolutely ridiculous. It's one thing to wrestle with a phone that isn't working correctly, but then when I come to the forums here for advice, I get replies like yours. Supposed helpful replies that are really just basically spam, constant reiteration of a moot point with equally absolutely no clear, or distinct point, subject or purpose to them at all.
Maybe you should take your own advice and be more specific with what information you want from people if you are going to bother to reply to them at all. Rather than just responding continuously with "We need more information". You represent 1 person on the forum here, and your ideas or advice are no more important or relevant than anyone else's. If you're going to try and help someone, don't confuse a person into thinking that they only have 1 source from which they can receive assistance and that they must first comply with your vague requests before they can get any assistance.
As for this now failure of a thread and my now wasted time replying and taking videos perfectly illustrating the problems I am facing with my phone. I am subsequently going to abandon this thread, unsubscribe from future replies and leave it here as both a documented source that there is an on-going issue (as many others have stated) with data and wifi lag and that for anyone else to perhaps understand your methods of posting better. Because I sure as day don't.
Thanks anyway I guess.
As for anyone else with the same issue. I am going to disable 'Fast Dormancy' and see if that solves my problem. Good luck to others facing the same issue.
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ignore fffft he has issues.
have you tried your sim in other phones? do they get good data speeds? if i were you i'd flash a modem update and see if that fixed anything. maybe try a prepaid carrier on your phone and see how its network speeds are.
Happened to me too - could be an app on your phone. Check settings to see which apps or using most battery and background services.
Or do what I did, and get an uninstaller to uninstall 70% of your apps you don't use - could make a massive difference!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cleanmaster.mguard
Try this
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Gosh.... Can you tell us own many more phone are connected to the same cell as you? This is already a difficult issue to troubleshoot, I guess your videos and long posts are useless. How can you distinguish between a mobile provider problem and a s5 problem?
fffft warned you!
Did you tried the cleanmaster solution?
Having the exact same problems in the US with sprint, I can have 3 or 4 bars of signal and apps report network failures and no data connection, I do not usually have an issue on wifi, but it does happen from time to time.
Rooted with towel
no custom recovery
Multiple frozen system apps
Purchased launch day from Sam's club
Xposed installed, I've disabled most of the modules I installed as they don't seem to work, especially any listed as Samsung specific
Still using TW
Often when the data loss issue occurs the 3g or LTE icon in the notification bar completely disappears, but the signal bar stays in 3-6 bars.
Current battery life seems to have no effect on the issue.
Mine is not just data, there are times the entire phone freezes and becomes unresponsive, taking 20-120 seconds to respond to pressing back or home even, and I get no response to pulling down the notification bar.
I do not use any task killers or battery mods or apps, I did notice a significant increase in occurrences approximately 3 weeks ago and the only thing I recall that I did then was to install hangouts dialer.
The troubleshooting I've done makes me believe the device is "detecting" high temps and turning off or slowing the CPU /GPU cores, thereby causing the apparent 'Lag'.
One incident happened last night, where no part of the phone felt hot, my game did not lose connection, but was on Wi-Fi, but I was getting 1 frame every 2+ minutes for 6 or 7 minutes, then the phone rebooted.
I have started making it a habit of opening Rom toolbox and checking the CPU current settings, during these issues I have never seen the CPU max over 1728 MHz.
The only information I located in a cat log was that frames were dropped and how many. Nothing about temperatures, many lines about IP addresses failing to respond. I do not have a saved catlog handy, but attached are a couple screenshots of data fails with good signal.
If you look, you may notice the warning notifications, those are sync errors with Google photos wanting sign in information for alternate accounts I have on the phone and don't want duplicating my phot backup too (some of my games I play 3 or 4 different accounts).
I will be happy to do any testing suggested as soon as I can and provide additional requested info without insults.
Necropost... Still having this issue, I've been on MOAR, Pac ROM, and Slim. 4.1.1, 4.2, & 5.1.1 android versions. Same problem, on Wi-Fi and Sprint. Phone is about to hit 2yrs old in April. Will be my first and last Samsung I guess... I've had a lot, Nexus is next I think...
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