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3g connection goes on vaca periodically
you have to tweak the ish out of it, ( and im still not happy)
had it since March 24th... US tmobile
still trying to get to where it should be
email sucks , especiallly if you have gmail
i find myself checking this forum more than my email.
its really starting to pis me off.
i had high hopes for this phone , its really not user freindly
i had an iphone for 3 years , and was looking for a good change ,
F it , this is the official complaint thread....post here
and oh yeah , everybody i know up here in Boston ,MA. with this phone is complaining!!!!!!!!
WTF htc tmobile
omil25 said:
3g connection goes on vaca periodically
you have to tweak the ish out of it, ( and im still not happy)
had it since March 24th... US tmobile
still trying to get to where it should be
email sucks , especiallly if you have gmail
i find myself checking this forum more than my email.
its really starting to pis me off.
i had high hopes for this phone , its really not user freindly
i had an iphone for 3 years , and was looking for a good change ,
F it , this is the official complaint thread....post here
and oh yeah , everybody i know up here in Boston ,MA. with this phone is complaining!!!!!!!!
WTF htc tmobile
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Sorry dude, but you're ranting more than explaining any of the issues.
What exactly are the problems?
ok dr.fixit
why does my web connection get lost every now and then , to the point i have to turn my data connection on and off.. and please dont tell me to disable HSPDA or whatever cuz i tried it and it still happens..
why does zooming in on websites using opera 9 make everything blurry( pics and text) ,please dont tell me to switch to opera 10 cuz that little zoom window that appears is terrible. and the auto resizing sucks.
why doesnt this phone download full emails ( with pics) ,i already set it to download full email , but then i have to manually download pics
i have bsb tweaks, regedit, cookies home tab, cleanram.. and this **** still freezes.
I can understand your annoyance, but talking sarcastically to people showing a wish to assist isn't going to encourage help from these forums.
Does the drop in connection happen when you are stationary (i.e. when you're sat at a desk in an office) or while you're travelling, or both?
Opera 9, are you zooming with pinch-to-zoom or double tapping? or both?
Do you have "Mobile View" ticked in the settings?
Have you got gmail set up as IMAP or POP3?
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i had an iphone for 3 years
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That's the problem.
Stevie has been bottle-feeding you for three years and now you are overwhelmed with the freedom a real phone gives you
like Skycamefalling stated you have had an iphone for 3 years, so the tweaking bit you have to get to grips with, email on the phone works great i have 4 accounts working on mine and 1 of them is push,
tbh some of the issues you list could be down to your provider as opposed to the phone itself.
i have had my HD2 since dec 24th and love it to bits. i do not have any of the probs you list but then i am in the uk with a different version of the phone and a different provider as well.
Mike
omil25 said:
3g connection goes on vaca periodically
you have to tweak the ish out of it, ( and im still not happy)
had it since March 24th... US tmobile
still trying to get to where it should be
email sucks , especiallly if you have gmail
i find myself checking this forum more than my email.
its really starting to pis me off.
i had high hopes for this phone , its really not user freindly
i had an iphone for 3 years , and was looking for a good change ,
F it , this is the official complaint thread....post here
and oh yeah , everybody i know up here in Boston ,MA. with this phone is complaining!!!!!!!!
WTF htc tmobile
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I can tell you that your 3g problems are probably because of T-Mobiles crappy 3g coverage. I can't get 3g inside any building at all in my area. T-Mobiles 1700 band doesn't penetrate through walls or objects as well as AT&Ts 850 3g band. I really miss AT&Ts 3g coverage... it worked everywhere for me.
For your freezing problems... do you remember to make sure you fully close any apps you aren't using with a task manager. If you have too many things running in the backround it can cause problems. Most people who are used to an iphone don't remember to do that.
skycamefalling ,,,,,that was funny.i have no problem tweaking internally. my iphone was tweaked beyond comprehension. you jester you!!
to all my British bretheren , i have the US version remember.
rp-x1,,,connection lost while both traveling and stable, on opera 9 , mobile view is off, and i use double tap as well as pinch to zoom, email,incoming is imap,outgoing is smtp
I have a TMOUS HD2 and I love it. I guess you have to be kind of technical at least to love this phone. Iphone is a no brainer, locked down OS. Pick up and download apps and use. LOL... All people I know, with an iphone, aren't really technical. I've never really cared for an iPhone. This is my first smartphone, but this is just buying me time for a real Mobile Computer.
daily driver,,,,dude im from Boston ,gimme a break will ya.
i have N-O problem digging into the registry.
RP-X1 ,,, you seem savvy, what do you propose ?
3G i cant help because you have a US version, tweaking wise whats the problem? email wise is it just the pictures downloading you have problem with
demon,,, yes its the pics i have a problem with on the email.
zara-whatever,,,, you have a point, verizon 3g is better then att, but att is better than tmobile,, oh and dude , my task manager is a quick link.
i might just have to go to verizon and get the incredible.......
dailydriver said:
I have a TMOUS HD2 and I love it. I guess you have to be kind of technical at least to love this phone. Iphone is a no brainer, locked down OS. Pick up and download apps and use. LOL... All people I know, with an iphone, aren't really technical. I've never really cared for an iPhone. This is my first smartphone, but this is just buying me time for a real Mobile Computer.
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No, you don't. I have seen and experienced more problems with this phone and I'm an avid android user. I'm experiencing the same issues the poster is having as well, and I've experienced this with two different hd2's within the past couple weeks (buyers remorse is a godsend).
The phone may have the potential to rock face, but it's like my beloved Rx-7's... potential to kick a lot of ass but the reality is they're more problematic than they're worth. The phone has a lot of issues, you shouldn't HAVE to close down a single app in order for your phone to respond. Having the ability to do that is nice, but it shouldn't be a requirement especially if you're only running a couple apps like messages, music, opera and the phone itself.
I say if the person upset can take it back or sell it, do so. I am taking mine back if I don't see any improvements by this weekend.
Tweaking is fun when it functions; tweaking to get things to operate half right and it STILL doesn't even do that is beyond annoying.
Outta curiosity, could we take this phone to at&t and use it? (US side)
To put it another way, I feel as if i'm paying Tmobile/HTC/Windows Mobile to beta test their lack luster phone with zero software support and no forseeable end to the beta or a worthwhile product at the end of the cycle.
omil25 said:
skycamefalling ,,,,,that was funny.i have no problem tweaking internally. my iphone was tweaked beyond comprehension. you jester you!!
to all my British bretheren , i have the US version remember.
rp-x1,,,connection lost while both traveling and stable, on opera 9 , mobile view is off, and i use double tap as well as pinch to zoom, email,incoming is imap,outgoing is smtp
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Does it drop the connection while surfing? If so, did the connection slow down/drop bars first?
Opera, Is it every page that goes fuzzy, does it do it on the mobile versions of the same sites? Do you get a checkerboard effect appear while zooming also?
Can't really help with the gmail issue as I only have hotmail on imap. I have seen a few posts mention that it doesn't download images unless requested. I must admit it does it randomly (although very rarely) on my POP accounts on mine.
I've not been able to track it down as to whether its due to closing the connection to the server prematurely, or whether its just having a funny 5.
neither of my accounts will download pictures auto apperently its a saftey feature something like that let me fine the link for you has more info.
Demon_man said:
neither of my accounts will download pictures auto apperently its a saftey feature something like that let me fine the link for you has more info.
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I know Pocket Outlook stops it automatically, but mine download the entire message through pop after adjusting the settings.
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No, you don't. I have seen and experienced more problems with this phone and I'm an avid android user. I'm experiencing the same issues the poster is having as well, and I've experienced this with two different hd2's within the past couple weeks (buyers remorse is a godsend).
The phone may have the potential to rock face, but it's like my beloved Rx-7's... potential to kick a lot of ass but the reality is they're more problematic than they're worth. The phone has a lot of issues, you shouldn't HAVE to close down a single app in order for your phone to respond. Having the ability to do that is nice, but it shouldn't be a requirement especially if you're only running a couple apps like messages, music, opera and the phone itself.
I say if the person upset can take it back or sell it, do so. I am taking mine back if I don't see any improvements by this weekend.
Tweaking is fun when it functions; tweaking to get things to operate half right and it STILL doesn't even do that is beyond annoying.
Outta curiosity, could we take this phone to at&t and use it? (US side)
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I really don't understand why some people have all these problems with these phones, even after getting a replacement. I have had no issues whatsoever... I can run usually over 10 apps at a time with no lagging or freezing. It ran fine out of the box for me with no tweeks. I've installed and uninstalled many apps, including ones that were questionable to experiment and test out. I was actually surprised it didn't freeze up with what I threw at it. I've owned 8 other winmo devices and the HD2 has been the fastest, most stable one. So when I see people having problems with freezing, I have to figure you either have a faulty device or it's something the user has done (either installed something or using it in some way that causes it.). So saying that you have to tweak it to get it to work right doesn't apply to everyone or every HD2 and these issues seem to be for certain users or HD2s. It does seem that most of the people with these issues are people who have liitle or no experience with winmo, but I can't figure out how exactly someone would use it to cause these issues. Maybe there's a large number of defective units. idk.
Also, to use your Tmous HD2 on AT&T, you'll need to unlock it first. And you will only get edge speeds with AT&T... no 3g.
- turn off 3G
phone screen > ##778 > "000000" > modem settings >
preferred mode- should be on auto as default, switch it to cdma only
menu > commit settings > (auto reboots)
poof 1x only mode!!!
(much slower data speed but much smaller data authentaction overhead - hence less power usage, good for low signal or good signal with fringe 3g coverage)
also be careful what you change in the settings, one of the modes will give you data only and no voice call(+sms) ability
- also "rev A." enable/disable has no reason to be off unless your network engineer so leave it on, turning it off will just limit you to evdo(3g) rev.0 vs allow both rev.A and rev.0
- dont clear your MRU, if you do you will need to hit a native verizon tower to get data to work
- preferred serving system - home/auto A/auto B
B is default and works best in roughly 90% areas, auto A looks at same preferred list but starts in reverse order before goign to none preferred towers, sometimes phones gets confused between two preferred towers and grabs one with lower signal or just switched to much, occasional it might help to tell the phone to start searching for ID's in reverse order, this is little over simplified and prl's contain signal frequencies as well which is more of what a/b switch will look to, but thats the way i like to explain it so tough cookie
also if your ambitious and your phone keeps jumping between good 3g signal and tower with poor coverage or data, you could grab the sID's of the tower with good connection and put phone in home only mode and alter the nam settings home sid to match that, also your allowed to enter more than one sid in the settings if you wanted to build a mini prl list of sorts
warning:-altering home sid will give roam indicator false info and roaming will still be network side regardless of what miss programed phone shows
also if you put prl files on root of sd card you can also update prl from a file
Prove the lower power usage.
Lino. said:
Prove the lower power usage.
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i'll skip how signal strength effects radios power output and B band penetrates buildings better in general and alot of boring electromagnetic theory
i'm guessing your referring to the 1x mode vs 3g/1x mode(3g/2g), if its not let me know
it was my assumption that it is general knowledge and accepted that evdo has alot higher power usage just maintaining network authentication with no data transfered for user purposes, it takes longer to acquire a 3g aka EV signal signal when booting phone or when its recovering from lost signal, the network packet overhead is larger between the phone and the cell tower, just like analog or cable modem has MTU that is basically the available space - used for network = info space, now imagine you had OCD and had to call your VM once ever min to make sure it didn't get deleted or someone change your password to check your messages, now say 1x would be listening just to make sure the greeting starts for maybe 10 seconds and your 3g would listen to say 30 seconds of the greeting before being satisfied the vm hasn't been lost or hacked, obviously the person broadcasting an open cell channel for less time will be able to use phone longer without charging, now these are made up numbers for illustration purposes and the authentication process takes fraction of a second, but it is done continuously over and over as long as the 3G icon is showing on the top of the phone
now actions speak louder than words and i would be more than happy to make some real world test to give you hard evidence and if this is what you want then you will have to wait because i'm changing alot of the apps on my phone and my usages is not consistent enough for test atm but i'll happily make one if you wait for my usage to settle down, now if someone wants to send me second htc incredible i'd happily make time dilated web video and post it to youtube so everyone can see first hand evidence of power difference
now if you are impatient and want proof right this second without a propper test conducted i can refer you to google but on more serious note the EVDO effect on moto razor is well know and modes have been done to edit, also the battery life of the v3a and v3m are very different, the largest difference in these two razors is one is evdo capable and the other is not, also cases have been documented of v3m users having less than half the battery life they had before after the EV icon starts showing up on the screen related directly to cell tower upgrade in the area they use the phone
now i know this is alot of nothing about the razor but it was very common phone, i have altered the data on lg wave, glimmer, htc touch diamond and few blackberrys and noticed power differences on all of them, its just the way modern cdma phones work and its effect is magnifed by lower signal levels, people that live few feet from cell towers will notice least difference while thous with 1 bar of coverage or around the -90 dbm or lower range will notice greatly magnified effects of this inefficient with data authentication process
seriously thou, anyone want to send me a second phone! lol
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couple googled links for you
http://www.hacktherazr.com/guides/verizon.disable.evdo.php
http://www.wikihow.com/Extend-the-Battery-Life-of-Your-Verizon-Wireless-RAZR
runkittyrun said:
seriously thou, anyone want to send me a second phone! lol
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couple googled links for you
http://www.hacktherazr.com/guides/verizon.disable.evdo.php
http://www.wikihow.com/Extend-the-Battery-Life-of-Your-Verizon-Wireless-RAZR
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Thats pretty good, but good luck with this one.
Coming from a G1 I was not expecting anything better on the battery for this phone, we get a phone like this because of it's features and everyone should know that features like this phone has are going to consume more power.
If battery is a persons problem and they will always complain about it, then they should not have a smartphone.
Also chargers are cheap.
I wander with the same amount of use, 2 identical phones one running 3G the other running slower, what would be the difference and how could this be done, the phone with 3G would be waiting on the other to load a webpage 90% of the time.
Sorry I left T-Mobile because of their lack of 3G service, I'll be dammed if I put my phone back to Edge speeds.
Lino. said:
If battery is a persons problem and they will always complain about it, then they should not have a smartphone.
Also chargers are cheap.
I wander with the same amount of use, 2 identical phones one running 3G the other running slower, what would be the difference and how could this be done, the phone with 3G would be waiting on the other to load a webpage 90% of the time.
Sorry I left T-Mobile because of their lack of 3G service, I'll be dammed if I put my phone back to Edge speeds.
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this definitely is not targeted for normal use
this is more for the person that cant make it threw 5 hours with the phone idle the whole time, if you want to start larger amount of data then switch it back and wait 40 seconds?? for reboot
2g will load web pages and email and all other data, except view vcast videos and thats blocked on network side, also voice chat programs like skype would take quality hit do to smaller bandwidth, if you used two phones in active data sessions the 3G would quickly become more efficient as session size and length increased, like you said it would finish loading larger websites and videos while 2g is still broadcasting an active session working on transferring the info, but if you set two phones with same apps on them in same place with one in 1x and other evdo and watched them in standby mode the 1x will have longer battery, now ideally if your going somewhere with low signal it is much easier to turn off all data threw normal menu and will give you even better battery but no emails updates or other data
I live in a poor Verizon signal area. Every phone I have ever had gets easy better batt life when set to 1x only so thanks for this tip.
Any easy to automate this with a macro or widget somehow?
lexluthor said:
I live in a poor Verizon signal area. Every phone I have ever had gets easy better batt life when set to 1x only so thanks for this tip.
Any easy to automate this with a macro or widget somehow?
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thanks, makes my post all worth while
would be a sweet widget if you could change the phone mode on the fly dont know enough about the android system to know if its possible, but maybe someone can look at the phone settings and make customized epst program and make widget just for this setting without the programing forcing a reboot, have seen some phone that can change nam programing without reboot but most phone do it automatically so be interesting to see if changed without a reset if it takes effect or not, hmm or even epst mod at commmit to bring up reboot yes/no instead force reboot on commit would work then we know widget should be possible
What it the point in having a top of the line media phone if you are going to cramp it's style by limiting it's functions. If you "need" this top of the line phone you should be able to pony up for an extra batt. The Incredible is a COMPUTER you talk on. Can your laptop last all day with heavy use unplugged ? ? NO.
I plug my phone in at work and in the car. I also keep an extra batt in my briefcase for out of the office emergencies. These are not flip phones that last all day. I have been using media phones since they came out and they have yet to make one that will last all day using all the features like you want to.
Why restrict what the phone can do , when all you need is an extra batt.
jbh00jh said:
What it the point in having a top of the line media phone if you are going to cramp it's style by limiting it's functions. If you "need" this top of the line phone you should be able to pony up for an extra batt. The Incredible is a COMPUTER you talk on. Can your laptop last all day with heavy use unplugged ? ? NO.
I plug my phone in at work and in the car. I also keep an extra batt in my briefcase for out of the office emergencies. These are not flip phones that last all day. I have been using media phones since they came out and they have yet to make one that will last all day using all the features like you want to.
Why restrict what the phone can do , when all you need is an extra batt.
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your right, why dont we all carry around backpacks or napsacks with batterys and portable charges and spare parts for our smartphone, batterys are cheap
and people should not be allowed to buy tv screens over 32" if they can't show proof of owning blu-ray player, i mean come on, no top line device unless your gonna use it to best potienal, and in reality they are just making large screens more expensive for thou that do have blu-ray, yep, no big screens for people with dvd's and stander cable
OMFG!
why are people so quick to force their frame of reality on to everyone, is their a Hitler award i dont know about?
i get that smartphones are computers first and phones second, but that doesn't mean everyone using one has the same needs, some people need the phone part of the smartphone to, well actually work, i know what a strang concept why dont they just get an old bag phone, better signal, better battery life, and you can get them with shoulder straps!
android is about ability to customize our phones, why? because we all use them differently so you can change your home screens, pick the apps you download, the experience is aimed at being user driven
your example laptop is way off base, what you should be saying is if your laptop is full charged and its completely off or in a hibernate mode for 2-5 hours can you even at that point turn it on? that is what this post is about, not the time your using the smartphone but the time that its self-destructing between uses
look, i admit this is not for everyone, infact for 90+% i would recommend not even trying this, but the point is some people are effected by this and shouldn't they at least have the option or ability for this? there was post requesting this before i even brought it up
do you know how many people i've talked to over 80 that have smartphones these days, now i'm not saying these should have them or that it wasn't incredibly frustrating talking to them and i didn't want to bang my head on wall saying why did someone sell this person a smartphone we should have test to who can buy smartphones, if you cant figure out how to turn it on by yourself you cant' buy one! but the reality is smartphones are becoming mainstream
- why would anyone need top line media phone and then cramp it?
> because they dont use their smartphone the same way you use smartphone
i.e. my father runs poker tournament for a large company and bigger events are normal held at casinos, i dont know if you been to poker tournament lately but they are long events, also most casinos are bad on cell signal, partly cause of the building and partly cause they have areas with signal equipment that interferes, he also needs to have his email on the device because he's general contractor and works with larger companies that demand a quick response, now one could suggest blackberry in this case as of smartphones they in most cases do better with battery life, but honestly at the rate android apps are growing and how much for fun and enjoyment i get from it i cant dream of not recommending a android phone to him, now their is one degree of separation that shows an example where this is useful, and i could go on all day long with completely different examples where this is helpful
can we all agree to disagree about how people are stupid people are to modify how their phone functions? and try to keep to subject of re-enforcing this works or providing examples that contradict this, or question to how it works or expands on its helpfulness
jbh00jh said:
What it the point in having a top of the line media phone if you are going to cramp it's style by limiting it's functions. If you "need" this top of the line phone you should be able to pony up for an extra batt. The Incredible is a COMPUTER you talk on. Can your laptop last all day with heavy use unplugged ? ? NO.
Why restrict what the phone can do , when all you need is an extra batt.
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I hear you on all of that and I fully understand what I have. I just came from a Touch Pro and, I'll tell you, battery was probably good for 14-16 hours if set to 1x and 10 hours on 3G. That a huge difference.
I'm on Wifi both at home and work and use Opera Mini, which works very well on 1x, plus I had a pretty quick way to go from 3G to 1x and back. It didn't limit me *that* much, but sure, there were plenty of times I needed to check something fast, wasn't near wifi and didn't want to use my macro to change to 3G and back. Yes, it's a bit of a pain.
Plus, I barely get a 3G signal in my house anyhow. It's 1x 75% of the time.
Now that I have my incredible, which does even so much more than the Touch Pro, yes, I'd like to keep it to 3G and I have chargers everywhere and an extra battery and might get an external battery charger too.
Still, I'd love to see an app or widget that can quickly set the phone to 1x mode and back.
runkittyrun said:
your right, why dont we all carry around backpacks or napsacks with batterys and portable charges and spare parts for our smartphone, batterys are cheap
and people should not be allowed to buy tv screens over 32" if they can't show proof of owning blu-ray player, i mean come on, no top line device unless your gonna use it to best potienal, and in reality they are just making large screens more expensive for thou that do have blu-ray, yep, no big screens for people with dvd's and stander cable
OMFG!
why are people so quick to force their frame of reality on to everyone, is their a Hitler award i dont know about?
i get that smartphones are computers first and phones second, but that doesn't mean everyone using one has the same needs, some people need the phone part of the smartphone to, well actually work, i know what a strang concept why dont they just get an old bag phone, better signal, better battery life, and you can get them with shoulder straps!
android is about ability to customize our phones, why? because we all use them differently so you can change your home screens, pick the apps you download, the experience is aimed at being user driven
your example laptop is way off base, what you should be saying is if your laptop is full charged and its completely off or in a hibernate mode for 2-5 hours can you even at that point turn it on? that is what this post is about, not the time your using the smartphone but the time that its self-destructing between uses
look, i admit this is not for everyone, infact for 90+% i would recommend not even trying this, but the point is some people are effected by this and shouldn't they at least have the option or ability for this? there was post requesting this before i even brought it up
do you know how many people i've talked to over 80 that have smartphones these days, now i'm not saying these should have them or that it wasn't incredibly frustrating talking to them and i didn't want to bang my head on wall saying why did someone sell this person a smartphone we should have test to who can buy smartphones, if you cant figure out how to turn it on by yourself you cant' buy one! but the reality is smartphones are becoming mainstream
- why would anyone need top line media phone and then cramp it?
> because they dont use their smartphone the same way you use smartphone
i.e. my father runs poker tournament for a large company and bigger events are normal held at casinos, i dont know if you been to poker tournament lately but they are long events, also most casinos are bad on cell signal, partly cause of the building and partly cause they have areas with signal equipment that interferes, he also needs to have his email on the device because he's general contractor and works with larger companies that demand a quick response, now one could suggest blackberry in this case as of smartphones they in most cases do better with battery life, but honestly at the rate android apps are growing and how much for fun and enjoyment i get from it i cant dream of not recommending a android phone to him, now their is one degree of separation that shows an example where this is useful, and i could go on all day long with completely different examples where this is helpful
can we all agree to disagree about how people are stupid people are to modify how their phone functions? and try to keep to subject of re-enforcing this works or providing examples that contradict this, or question to how it works or expands on its helpfulness
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Why would someone need a backpack to carry a 2oz, battery ?
The more I read on this tread the more I understand.
That was an option on my G1 to turn off 3G, I never did, I hardly had 3G with T-mobile.
Anyway you can turn off Mobile network on the fly, you can also put the phone in airplane mode, but both of these you will have to internet, also you could turn off Auto Sync, or turn the phone OFF for best battery life.
I just switched to Tmobile to get the Vbrant. The phone is amazing but at home i have very, very poor reception. Unless my phone sits next to the window, i do not get any calls!! Missed calls, voicemail are completely lost.
I noticed that if someone from another carrier calls me (and my phone sits next to the window), I can receive the call and continue to talk. However, if I make a call, if i manage, the call gets dropped after a few minutes.
At work i have much better signal.. in the city much better signal. But here in the county it's poor,esp around my house, or if i am in a store at the nearby plaza..
The worst thing is I do not get the missed calls nor voicemails. If i get that, at least i know to call back whenever i am in good reception area..
WHat should I do. Will an update to JI6 or froyo fix any of that? Or should i go back to AT&T get the captivate and use limited data plan of 2 GB ?
I get great reception surprisingly... better than my 9700 bold, g1 or any beater phone I've used. Since the update, I've gotten an extra bar of 3g in my office, where I'd normally get 0(but stay on 3g).
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To be honest dude, if your signal is that bad at home and you can still back out, do it. Get the fascinate on Verizon. No data cap there.
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To be honest dude, if your signal is that bad at home and you can still back out, do it. Get the fascinate on Verizon. No data cap there.
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No, i dont want verizon. It needs to be a gsm so i can use it in Europe..
JI6 has improved my signal quite a bit.
We're hopeful that UMP will be ported to the Vibrant eventually, but it's not a sure bet by any means. That would fix the signal while at home if you have WiFi. Other than that JI6 does seem to increase the signal strength.
~SB
JI6 does increase your reception because at work i usually get full Edge, and after JI6 I been getting one to two bar on 3G. The trade off is my battery drains more due to the stronger modem.
JI6 has a battery depletion bug that has nothing to do with reception as I've had JI2, JI4 and JI5 with the same reception. The JIx series brings a fix for -dBm/ASU and in return the Android is able to recognize actual signal strength far better than before.
Short answer.. YES it will...suggestions: use google voice for your calls/voicemails, this will ensure that you know of missed calls even if your phone is off..The way mine is setup. If you call me and my cell is off, the call is forwarded to Google Voice which rings my landline or goto voicemail..I have an option in the settings set to alert me of missed calls.
In addition to being more accurate in showing the right amount of bars, JI6 did slightly increase my signal strength. A few places where I was unable to place a call, it will easily hold onto a bar or two. Big upgrade if you ask me.
Guys, thank you very much for the advice! I upgrade my phone to JI6 and have noticed slight improvement. I am seeing 1-2 bars now at home and i am able to place a call ..Still testing if calls continue to drop.
ram130,
THANK YOU for this suggestion!!! Did not even think about it but that is exactly what i need!! It will suffice and make my overall service more reliable and I will be informed about voicemails. This is phenomenal. Now I think I can keep my phone thanks to your help guys!!
I hate to bring back the dead but I just recently got my vibrant and I am having some of the same issues.
I keep my phone in my pants pocket and when I go to the back of the store I almost always lose service. I never had this problem with my TP2. Will this JI6 fix reception or is it just a gps fix? How can I check to see if I have this? I did do a update when I received the phone so I am thinking I might have it already.
tecjunkie-
JI6 is more than just a GPS fix;it also adds a Media Hub and Task Manager app, and I believe there are a few software tweaks. However, I'm not sure that Samsung ever revealed all the things it was designed to do, and I don't remember hearing anything about a reception fix, but I'd say, install it and see....
It did improve my signal level.
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tecjunkie-
JI6 is more than just a GPS fix;it also adds a Media Hub and Task Manager app, and I believe there are a few software tweaks. However, I'm not sure that Samsung ever revealed all the things it was designed to do, and I don't remember hearing anything about a reception fix, but I'd say, install it and see....
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Thanks for your replies.
I am afraid if the JI6 is the update that included the media hub functionality and task manager I do have that update.
Now I am at a lost. Do you think the weak signal strength is because it isn't hspda? My TP2 showed a H and like I said I never had a problem at work with it. Every time I walk in the back and send a text it says failed. When I am in the front near the windows(retail store) it works fine.
To the OP:
Perhaps you should upgrade to the leaked froyo. I say this for 2 reasons.
1 - it has wifi calling. You can use your homes wifi instead of the network.
2 - you can upgrade to the JK6 modem which has shown many a much better signal.
I have steps in my signature for option 1. Option 2 is at the top of the development section. I just flash JK6 and my up/download speeds doubled.
JK6 has excellent data throughput.
The new Motorola DEFY however has EXCELLENT reception. at least -5dBm better than my Vibrant.
Hello everyone,
Since the beginning of the Android period, I've been experiencing reception problems, as well as a few friends of mine. The phone is continually searching for signal and losses it quickly, jumps from HSDPA to other means, and also has the problem of regaining the signal after going through a tunnel etc.
I am not a developer myself, but was wondering if anyone else was experiencing the same problems and if there is anything to be done about it.
I know there was a slight fix introduced not too long ago in Tytungs kernel, but for me things still pretty suck.
If you have something to say about this, please do. Otherwise, a mod can handle the positioning of this thread. No need to start flaming if you have nothing to say.
All Hail XDA!!
Cheers,
Chovav
Thread reported to forum mod, Why don't you realise even after placing [Q] in the heading that you need the Q&A forums.
As for your concerned problem, i havn't faced that till now except for the fact i have data drops seldomly.
I have the same problem. I've tested several ROM, radios, Magldr clk...
I always use the *#*#4636#*#* trick. But I always have to return to 2G only.
I think that there must be different kind of hardware that avoid getting a decent signal level.
I tried the Probable Hardware Fix For HD2 Poor Signal too. I have better reception but no as solid as with 2G
I love the phone but when I use only 2G I want to cry (almost everytime).
Thanks in advance, Paco
Just something I would like to throw out there, I also have reception issues on ANY rom, but its occurrence seems to be like the original iPhone 4 came out, terrible reception if you squeeze the whole phone with your hand. I prove that theory by doing that in my room, if i dont touch the phone (just the screen) and browse the web, I do it with full bars. But as soon as I pick up the phone and browse, it will drop very quickly to 1 or no bars (from 4). See if you can trial this yourself, put phone down and browse web, and then hold the phone and try it. See if that makes a difference. Does for me.
There was a thread a while back about this and it showed a screen that you can get to that shows how long you have had signal and I remember looking at it in mine and it showed that I was without signal at least a third of the time the phone was powered on. I don't remember how to get to it any more or I would show you a screen shot of it. I have constant full bars of H where I am and even not moving the phone still shows this same behavior of dropping connection to the towers.
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So I've had my S5 for a few months now. It's basically been a dream for the time being.
Now the phone is pissing me off the same way the S4 pissed me off...
Battery life is totally fine, absolutely no complaints at all. My phone lasts for ages except for when I play tons of games on it.
Performance however is quite slow (probably due to lack of RAM).. despite running fstrim, cleaning cache on a weekly basis and using apps like Greenify etc.
The worst thing however is the ridiculous issues I am having with 3G/Data.
I am unsure if it is just my carrier (The largest network in Finland (SONERA)) or if it is my phone.
I made a video here of the EXACT SAME issue with Wifi (data is even WORSE):
http://youtu.be/2zNBV63Dk0U
Basically you see the first 2 pages load up pretty fast. Then what's with the wait on the rest of those pages whilst they are loading?
The speed of my network is 10MB/s up and down. It's a symmetric connection. It shouldn't be slow at all, and ping times are tiny. So why is it taking so long for my phone to resolve the website, regardless of the browser and method of connection (data or wifi) that I use?
Basically my phone will just switch between 3G and H/H+ continuously without actually being connected, or loading pages etc.
So basically I'll be in the middle of the capital city, on Finland's LARGEST network connected to 3G with FULL bars and not have a connection. Yet all around me, people are using their phones without remotely any issue at all on the same network..
Some information about my phone:
Galaxy S 5 (SM-G900F). Stock ROM, never flashed. Towelrooted.
4.4.2. - Baseband G900FXXU1ANE2
Build - KOT49H.G900FXXU1ANE4
Stock Kernel
80+ User Apps installed
Xposed Framework installed
The biggest issue I have is the fact that the Data connection just sucks in 2G or 3G. There's just this huge lag between loading any webpage, where there is literally ZERO data being transferred (I have the speed indicator xposed app), yet the icon just flashes back and forth from 3G to H to H+ and back. No matter what browser I use, and even often on Wi-Fi it's just terrible and there is STILL a huge wait time between pages actually loading. However apps at least seem to download totally fine.
I have my Buffalo N300 router on Wireless N. I am NOT running at 5Ghz, because it drains more battery. My 3G plan is set to 21Mbps, and I should have no throttling or cap. However I RARELY seem to see speeds over 250KB/s and in the centre of Helsinki or anywhere in the outlying (2-3km areas) there's just no data transfer at all. Full bars, but in some cases the entire network will just cut out and say that it is unavailable.
Could it be an issue with my phone's Modem? Could I just flash a newer modem over the current one that I have? The phone is running stock and it shouldn't be so slow, no matter what.
My stupid provider just suggested that I change to a more expensive 4G plan (yeah right, 3G on other providers was never remotely laggy)
Any ideas guys? I'll give you any information that you need to help me out...
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Well what info do you want from me?
I posted a video of how the pages load so slowly even on Wifi. I told you my router. It's a Buffalo N300. I don't have 5Ghz mode on. It's set to Wireless N. My internet speed is 100/100mbps. I think that is plenty of information.
I also gave my complete phone specs. My knox is 1x1 yes. I gave my baseband etc. above.
What exactly do you need to know about my configuration? It's set to use 3G always. I always seem to have bars of 3G (even if it won't connect) but there is NO data transfer at all. You can see in the video that the speed indicator in the taskbar doesn't show any data being transferred. There's just this large amount of time that it does nothing. The page loading/connection stalls and I have to wait. I've tried multiple browsers too like I said, and more than 1 Wi-Fi network.
If I swap back to 3G or 2G (WCDMA/2G) mode. Then the phone still stays on 3G 99.99% of the time, but there's still NO data transfer. On 2G it will work just slow enough that I can send a whatsapp message. But it won't load a webpage, not even slowly.
My carrier I also explained.. Sonera, the biggest carrier here in Finland, I also even explained the data plan I am on. 3G, 21mbps, no throttling, etc.
P.S. The speedtest in my signature, is my HOME WIFI connection. It has NOTHING to do with my data connection. I'm not talking about my DL speed or throughput, besides those are the speeds I get on my COMPUTER. I get slower speeds on my phone. I am talking about the LAG that I get when I try to open a page. I.E. Why does my phone just stall loading something and make me wait for ages for it to finish? Why does my connection just stop, and page loading just stop 40%-60% or whatever through loading something?
What extra info do you need? You keep saying 'phone congifuration' but I just gave you basically everything. What specific 'phone configuration' info do you need to know?
You know what phone I have, exactly what version, how it is rooted, etc. You know my data provider, my wifi and data speeds. You know the issue that I am explaining that I am experiencing and how it happens. Plus a bunch of other information, what is installed on my phone, my router and its set up. etc. etc. etc.
What more do you need?
Thanks for your reply but. Frankly I think I provided more information than most people do about their problems here.
P.S. Here's another video which shows me getting 12.5x slower speeds than I should be:
http://youtu.be/N0aTikEPbPM
Excuse the exasperation and that accompanies my Australian accent
I got some data issues too.in H+ data just won't move like it should.
I'm using saunalahti.
When i open a web page my 3g turns to h+ . I think that's the way i should work
because nothing happens with 3g.
Nothing mostly happens with my 3G either, it has to be on H to do anything. I am starting to think it's an issue with 'Fast Dormancy' and I might go ahead and disable that.
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fffft said:
Yes, you provided considerably more information than most people. Kudos if that makes you feel any better. However as I explained at length it still isn't nearly enough to effectively troubleshoot much. I also spelt out what would be useful to have. Having 60% of the details doesn't complete a puzzle significantly more than 40% would. It narrows things down a bit but you're still in the land of guessing and throwing out common issues hoping that one of them will turn out to be the problem at hand.
There are lots of people who will be happy to pseudo-randomly guess at the problem. And you can try each suggestion in turn until you hopefully hit upon the right one. I'm more interested in methodical troubleshooting which requires much more detailed information. As I described what would facilitate that and you still ask what do I want, I can only assume that you missed reading part of my earlier reply.
Regardless you can either post the details I requested or wait for others to point out how to address commonplace issues that may or may not help your situation.
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Are you for real? Practically all of your replies here are "You haven't given us enough information"
You practically know my phone and my data and Wi-Fi as well as I do, from what I have explained.
Now your reply is just paragraphs of you blabbering on about how I still haven't given you enough information for you to help me. If you think you're being constructive here or something replying like this to other people, you really aren't mate. Yes you did explain at length, three times that I didn't give you enough information. Yet you failed, to explain even ONCE exactly what information you want. Except to say "phone configuration" I mean seriously what? That's the most broad term you could possibly use on the forums here. I've explained my phone config, and- actually you know what, I won't do it again. I've explained everything so much and posted TWO VIDEOS of the issues that I am facing. If you seriously don't know enough about my problem then, with all due respect you are of absolutely no help to me what-so-ever.
The worst thing is, I'm usually a patient person and I am grateful for the help I get from other people in the forums here and anywhere else. But every-so-often someone like you comes around and I can't, for the life of me, even fathom as to how to even communicate with you. All of the information is right there in front of you to provide a second opinion or give your personal advice. Yet you're sticking with "You haven't provided enough information". There's nothing else I can do buddy, save actually giving you my phone and letting you look at it.
Also the way at which you seem to post in that I only seem to have 2 options here is really quite ridiculous. That I can either choose to give you more information (What information EXACTLY?) or basically just wait for other people to guesstimate what the issue could be (which I was totally fine with).
If you mean this information:
Or do any testing that might have revealed patterns in your data and wifi rates e.g. speed and latency tests at different times of the day
- What's the point? I explained here and in the videos that this has been happening all the time, for the past month.
with different providers
- I don't have another data provider to test with, I'm not made of money
direct comparisons to other phones on the same connection
- How the f*ck can I get stuff like this? I'm one person on my own, do you suppose I go stand out on the side of the road with a sign on a highway?
ping plots, service menu details about which bands are active and actual signal strengths or anything like that
- Do I look like a scientist to you? How am I supposed to know, and the phone doesn't give me any sort of way natively to even know any of this information
did you do any searches of forums dealing with specific providers e.g. BBR, Hofo, to see if anyone else is having provider issues?
- Yes and lots of people are having the same issues, even someone else replied to this thread stating he had the same issue
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That is a ridiculous amount of stuff to ask from someone and I have either given you the details already, or you're asking something that isn't physically possible for me to do.
Personally, I think you're going about this whole 'helping people' thing the wrong way. Like there is some choice between getting your 'professional' advice or something or basically just taking hints and suggestions here and there. I don't remotely agree with the way you post on the forums here. I've provided umpteen times more information than just about anyone else on the forum here, and no, that isn't a compliment to myself. It's a fact.
Ugh, this whole situation is just absolutely ridiculous. It's one thing to wrestle with a phone that isn't working correctly, but then when I come to the forums here for advice, I get replies like yours. Supposed helpful replies that are really just basically spam, constant reiteration of a moot point with equally absolutely no clear, or distinct point, subject or purpose to them at all.
Maybe you should take your own advice and be more specific with what information you want from people if you are going to bother to reply to them at all. Rather than just responding continuously with "We need more information". You represent 1 person on the forum here, and your ideas or advice are no more important or relevant than anyone else's. If you're going to try and help someone, don't confuse a person into thinking that they only have 1 source from which they can receive assistance and that they must first comply with your vague requests before they can get any assistance.
As for this now failure of a thread and my now wasted time replying and taking videos perfectly illustrating the problems I am facing with my phone. I am subsequently going to abandon this thread, unsubscribe from future replies and leave it here as both a documented source that there is an on-going issue (as many others have stated) with data and wifi lag and that for anyone else to perhaps understand your methods of posting better. Because I sure as day don't.
Thanks anyway I guess.
As for anyone else with the same issue. I am going to disable 'Fast Dormancy' and see if that solves my problem. Good luck to others facing the same issue.
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ignore fffft he has issues.
have you tried your sim in other phones? do they get good data speeds? if i were you i'd flash a modem update and see if that fixed anything. maybe try a prepaid carrier on your phone and see how its network speeds are.
Happened to me too - could be an app on your phone. Check settings to see which apps or using most battery and background services.
Or do what I did, and get an uninstaller to uninstall 70% of your apps you don't use - could make a massive difference!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cleanmaster.mguard
Try this
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Gosh.... Can you tell us own many more phone are connected to the same cell as you? This is already a difficult issue to troubleshoot, I guess your videos and long posts are useless. How can you distinguish between a mobile provider problem and a s5 problem?
fffft warned you!
Did you tried the cleanmaster solution?
Having the exact same problems in the US with sprint, I can have 3 or 4 bars of signal and apps report network failures and no data connection, I do not usually have an issue on wifi, but it does happen from time to time.
Rooted with towel
no custom recovery
Multiple frozen system apps
Purchased launch day from Sam's club
Xposed installed, I've disabled most of the modules I installed as they don't seem to work, especially any listed as Samsung specific
Still using TW
Often when the data loss issue occurs the 3g or LTE icon in the notification bar completely disappears, but the signal bar stays in 3-6 bars.
Current battery life seems to have no effect on the issue.
Mine is not just data, there are times the entire phone freezes and becomes unresponsive, taking 20-120 seconds to respond to pressing back or home even, and I get no response to pulling down the notification bar.
I do not use any task killers or battery mods or apps, I did notice a significant increase in occurrences approximately 3 weeks ago and the only thing I recall that I did then was to install hangouts dialer.
The troubleshooting I've done makes me believe the device is "detecting" high temps and turning off or slowing the CPU /GPU cores, thereby causing the apparent 'Lag'.
One incident happened last night, where no part of the phone felt hot, my game did not lose connection, but was on Wi-Fi, but I was getting 1 frame every 2+ minutes for 6 or 7 minutes, then the phone rebooted.
I have started making it a habit of opening Rom toolbox and checking the CPU current settings, during these issues I have never seen the CPU max over 1728 MHz.
The only information I located in a cat log was that frames were dropped and how many. Nothing about temperatures, many lines about IP addresses failing to respond. I do not have a saved catlog handy, but attached are a couple screenshots of data fails with good signal.
If you look, you may notice the warning notifications, those are sync errors with Google photos wanting sign in information for alternate accounts I have on the phone and don't want duplicating my phot backup too (some of my games I play 3 or 4 different accounts).
I will be happy to do any testing suggested as soon as I can and provide additional requested info without insults.
Necropost... Still having this issue, I've been on MOAR, Pac ROM, and Slim. 4.1.1, 4.2, & 5.1.1 android versions. Same problem, on Wi-Fi and Sprint. Phone is about to hit 2yrs old in April. Will be my first and last Samsung I guess... I've had a lot, Nexus is next I think...
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