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I'm having some situation here... This Hermes is causing TV Interference... not only on my TV, but also with my TV input card on my PC. It just happens at data transfer.
Weird? Any suggestions?
I had radio 1.48 and now 1.51... and always the same issue...
HELP!
All mobile phone causes interference on the TV signal, and most analog signals. There is nothing you can do about it.
But this are not some little lines on the TV... i'm talking about a high pitched noise on the TV or computer... the whole screen flickers...
I've had mobiles for the last 15 years and this is the first time I've seen something like this. And like I said, it's just when sending or receiving data.
I think this is weird... I'm gonna check with a Mogul that my g/f has to see if the same thing happens...
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But this are not some little lines on the TV... i'm talking about a high pitched noise on the TV or computer... the whole screen flickers...
I've had mobiles for the last 15 years and this is the first time I've seen something like this. And like I said, it's just when sending or receiving data.
I think this is weird... I'm gonna check with a Mogul that my g/f has to see if the same thing happens...
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It probably wont happen with the Mogul since that's on Sprint's network which is PCS - the Hermes is a GSM phone which is associated with the analog signal interference (It almost sounds like a galloping drum beat right before an incoming call de-dadade-dadade) - you will note though, if the phone is connected to a 3G signal, you will not have this problem! Your best bet is to place the phone with good distance away from speakers and such to avoid. I also find that for some reason, it's slightly less prone to happen with my phone if I put it screen down.
yeah, i'm hoping for a solution to this annoying problem too.
I've had the same thing going on with the last 5 Cingular/AT&T phones I've had. I kinda like it, I know when the phone is ringing before it actually rings.
heh, yeah, i also did find that beneficial. it kinda gave me a feeling of clairvoyancy -but i still hate it and need a fix. i have to turn off my comp speakers at night and my port speakers in my car that i use for my podcasts when im in a call or in a data session.
on a friend's tv, interferences happens when we enable the blutooth and they stops when we disable it.
mine is a m3100 and his is a m3000. both cause this problem on HIS TV but not on mine or other tv we tested. bad luck
No need to hide. This phone has many problems, still many people seems to ignore them completely. No need to start the "It's your phone, it's strange, I use it a lot and it never happens" saga. The problems are there. And for everyone. The fact you don't notice some bad behaviours doesn't mean the phone is perfect or that your baby is exempt from problems. Let's start:
1) Suboptimal WI-FI performance. On a 802.11g wireless network, connected to an 8Mbps internet connection, the phone can't even saturate the badwidth of the network. Speedtest.net reports an approximate 2Mbps download capacity (EDIT for those who cannot distinguish: 2 megabits, not megabytes). Test it yourself: try to download something from a fast website and try to figure out which is your maximum download transfer speed. You will be disappointed. As a comparative, this means the phone can use 1/4 of the available bandwidth. A SonyEricsson Satio can fully use the available bandwidth, instead (someone told me "tell me a phone that can do it. Now you have one).
2) Stanby freeze: it's there. The phone freezes randomly while in stanby draining all your battery juice. Sometimes happens rarely, sometimes happens frequently.
3) Poor memory space handling: after just 20 days of use from a fresh ROM update, my free memory space on ROM is just 36MB. Without installing big things or hacking anything. Sure, there are fixes produced by the community, log cleaners, temp files deletion utilities, etc. etc. Still, it's a quite a disappointement: it means this phone can't work properly in a "factory state" for much time.
4) "Always on" features: nice, apart the fact in random periods of time the services just stop to download data. The Twitter client doesn't work well. Sometimes you can hear a tweet sound, sometimes it downloads data without the sound, sometimes it downloads nothing until reboot.
5) Poor stability in general: the OS crashes frequently. Less frequently than the first shipped rom. Still it's not very stable.
6) Poor support in general with the updates: finally the SMS stuck problem has been fixed but they spent 3 months for it without a valid solution. The camera fix doesn't hide the fact the sensor is defective.
I don't say this to start a flame, of course, but only because I'm frustrated with these problems. And people, instead of spreading words about them, just pump the hype, including some notorious web sites that have no scope but pushing the hype even further. But the truth is another: this phone doesn't work as expected.
I honestly do not have the problems you're describing..
Your "truth" is very different from mine, but ne1 is allowed to have no
Can't comment on all those, but i hear you, defo had some of them and i'm on my 2nd unit after 2 weeks.
With Nokia it took them at least 6 months to iron out the flaws in their released phones, defo the case with N95 & N96, i didn't expect it to be the case on this phone.
SMS fix? is it? or only in 1.66, because the hotfix's don't work on the 1.44 ROM
I would like to add the Audiobooster problem to that list
well, I don't pretend mine is perfect but there are more things to love than to hate about it. regarding the problems, I think you cannot generalize because I've never experienced some of your issues but I'm bothered by other myself. finally I guess it's just a subjective call anyway...
I had some of your problems when my HD2 was on the original 1.48 WWE Hong Kong ROM. However, since I flashed HSPL, Merlion LEO V1.90 ROM and Radio version 2.07.50.27_2, it's been faster and absolutely stable. No more freezing/"Sleep of Death"/etc...
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I would like to add the Audiobooster problem to that list
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That one really annoys me too. Still can't find a way to get video and audio in sync without manually adjusting the offset whilst encoding. And HTC still can't get the hang of getting Audiomanager to handle AAC files properly (ie sort albums in track order, or show.their album art). Still, it's a lot quicker than my Touch Pro was ; )
Yeap! I'm very happy that I could be refunded. Too many bugs for such a device.
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If you want something that works out the box, get an iPhone
I have none of your issues and i can prove it with tests and videos.
I wish i had an "unlike" button to use it here. You are frustrated because either you don't know how to work with this phone or you have some bad software or even a bad phone. Replace it!
You are emitting false statements here!
PS: I have the phone for 2 months.
I'd love to see a phone or device that was perfect.
Every piece of hardware has its own problems.
I've been waiting for so long for someone to start a thread entitled as "Let's face it: HD2 has many problems". Eagerly watching this thread for some positive and negative input.
All in all, HTC Sense is at it infant stage. This "is" the culprit. Perhaps by end of this year, we will worship it someday...
To the developer/creator of HTC Sense, please use your common "sense" when trying to convince people to buy your idea. The first major mistake was SMS failure. Totally non-Sense.
1. have to say the WiFi (at work) is slow (2.2Mbps) but speedtest.net is SO unreliable I'll hold off commenting until I try at home tonight on my O2 LLU connection.
2. never had it
3. doesn't happen to me, currently got 107MB free of storage and 266MB of program memory free
4. other than Twitter client being a bit crap it's fine
5. mine doesn't crash
6. updates are fine but I've not had any of the issues others have had in the first place, less so now running a custom ROM
Return your phone and get an iphone/android device.
This kind of issues, even if I haven't myself had most of those you list, have been around with EVERY WM phone that has been made.
Of course WM is far from perfect, but as someone already said to me the advantages far outweigh them, and I can live with them and the need for tweaking.
1) Wifi speed, show me one phone that can transfer at full G speed. The processing power/memory bandwidth/flash memors speed can't handle that.
It also depends a LOT of the software used.
I do get 1-1.5MB/s (8-12Mbps) transfer on wifi between the HD2 and one of my home computers, with WiFi remote access, and on balanced wifi performance. With Resco explorer, I get 150kB/s...
2) Never had one.
3) Depends... could be just normal, now that the album and browser caches have reached their limits, and would stop there. Stock ROM has a lot of useless stuff on it.
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To the developer/creator of HTC Sense, please use your common "sense" when trying to convince people to buy your idea. The first major mistake was SMS failure. Totally non-Sense.
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Sense is fine, but the vanilla Win6.5 fails hard.
And if this thread gets to about page 5, it would probably just turn into another Leo vs iPhone flame war.
For the WiFi "problem": ~ 2 MByte /s is just the normal average speed, even with my laptop I won't get much more on 802.11g .. It also depends on with how many other devices you share your WiFi-channel.
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Sense is fine, but the manilla Win6.5 fails hard.
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What is manila win6.5?!?! Do you even know what manila is? manila = sense!!!
I think there are a lot of 'duff' units, this must be the case with the 'sleep of death' and the crackley call as many of had it but most don't.
I took mine back, got a new one yesterday, no crackles no sleep of death... yet
But true, there are always gonna be problems, it will take months before a near perfect firmware, sorry, rom is out
Thank god for my HTC HD2. No problem here beside the screen shaking. But I hardly notice it.
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1) Wifi speed, show me one phone that can transfer at full G speed. The processing power/memory bandwidth/flash memors speed can't handle that.
It also depends a LOT of the software used.
I do get 1-1.5MB/s (8-12Mbps) transfer on wifi between the HD2 and one of my home computers, with WiFi remote access, and on balanced wifi performance. With Resco explorer, I get 150kB/s...
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SonyEricsson Satio, for example. I download at 900Kb/s with it on the same network (using the same browser, Opera Mobile 10 Beta 3). Poor implementations doesn't mean it's not possible. Do we need 4Ghz quad core processors to use a wireless g network? Obviously not.
3) Depends... could be just normal, now that the album and browser caches have reached their limits, and would stop there. Stock ROM has a lot of useless stuff on it.
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A bad behaviour, even when happens at factory settings is still a bad behaviour. You have a strange definition of "normal". Surely a phone that in 20 days saturate all the available space on the rom cannot be considered "normal". It's a poor implementation of things. A good implementation would have addressed it from the start by allowing the user WHERE to store that files or giving him an option to clear that files without an hard reset. No, it's not normal. Software design it's a much more complicated thing than those "normal" things.
You know you have problems when your best programs are Hd2tweaks, Bsbtweaks and Resco registry editor. And you are continually wiping out your system and trying new roms. Although Xannytech evolution was a good one.
So, my phone has been running fine for weeks (it was at I think like 600+ hours uptime before I had to reboot it for the first time two days ago). I'm running Apex 1.4.1, with no custom modifications. I was using it one day, then a little later it just started freezing for several seconds anytime I tried to do anything, then unfreezing for a couple seconds, then freezing, etc. I rebooted it, then it was fine for a little while. Then I was texting someone back and forth for an hour or so, and all of a sudden it stopped sending my messages. I rebooted, and it was able to send again. Now today apparently she isn't getting them again, because she asked the same question I already replied to, over an hour later (I mean, she could have just not seen the reply, but with the other recent problems I'm not betting on it...).
Has anyone seen issues like this? Also, come to think of it, Yahoo Mail has been acting just retarded...it keeps disabling status bar notifications on its own (twice so far), but regardless, when it IS notified, it's not letting me know when I get new emails, I have to go in and look. My batteries been dying a LOT faster, and my data usage has been steadily climbing over the last couple days (I haven't downloaded anything, and my normal usage recently has only been very basic) and I have a feeling Yahoo Mail has been constantly trying to connect but failing, except for when I manually go into it? But that's just a guess.
This is all just bugging me, so any suggestions would be helpful. I can just backup my needed apps, wipe and re-flash Apex, but if anyone has any other suggestions I would love to hear them. Thanks
Well I think you went wrong when you didn't shut it off for over 600 hours. Did you really need it to be on at that time? Even at night?
But anyway that's just my rant. Reflashing apex would be a good place to start. And make sure you just wipe everything. If that doesn't work, you may want to go completely back to stock and then back to apex
So you're saying this OS is not as stable as Windows? Because I've had Windows OS's stay running for months without issue. Gee, if Android isn't is good as Windows, maybe I should look into getting a WP7 phone... /sarcasm
If there aren't issues, then there's no reason to turn off your phone. Shutting it down at night is good if you don't want to charge it, but it really shouldn't be a requirement unless if Android isn't ready for prime-time (and no, I'm not saying that's the case). I had an issue, I rebooted, I had another issue, I rebooted, I had ANOTHER issue, rebooted, and so far it's been good since yesterday afternoon.
I really think it was the Yahoo Mail app though I don't know why it would have prevented sending text messages... I did a force stop, cleared it's data, removed it, rebooted, and then reinstalled the app. So far, it's been working OK from what I can tell. The data usage has slowed, battery life seems to be good again, and I'm getting notified of new Yahoo emails.
Actually I am not at all concerned with the software. I was talking about the hardware. Would you leave your computer running for 600+ hours?
Like I said, I have. My file server (Windows Server 2003) has been running (except for a few brief shutdowns for hardware upgrades/swaps) for over 2 years. My main PC (Windows 7) has been running, for the most part, except for a few times when I just felt like shutting it down, for probably the last 6 months.
Ok well if it works for you, then great keep doing it. But I'm just saying, as a computer guy, that is just a general bad idea
Nice to know, but I'm also a "computer guy" (professionally) and as a rule of thumb I keep my office computer on 24/7/365, as well as my home computers.
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Nice to know, but I'm also a "computer guy" (professionally) and as a rule of thumb I keep my office computer on 24/7/365, as well as my home computers.
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Since you are a computer guy, could you please explain how there aren't any adverse effects on your hardware from keeping it running? Primarily on the cpu and fans? No chance you could burn something out?
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Actually I am not at all concerned with the software. I was talking about the hardware. Would you leave your computer running for 600+ hours?
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Why would you shut it off? I don't think leaving it on all the time is the issue. why shut your cell phone off? I think that's stupid. Then again I'm a midnighter so I guess things are different for me. I never shut off my cell phone or PC.
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Since you are a computer guy, could you please explain how there aren't any adverse effects on your hardware from keeping it running? Primarily on the cpu and fans? No chance you could burn something out?
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It's designed to run like that. I'm a big PC guy as well. I do a few custom builds here and there. Seriously turning it off and on all the time it going to cause more damage (especially to your HDD) then keeping it on all the time. It's like a car being in stop and go traffic versus highway mileage. I think the last time I shut my PC off was around Christmas cause I had to reformat and couldn't get it done before I went to work so since my network wasn't up yet no reason to keep it on.
Computers aren't like cars..."gunk" and "sludge" (and yes, I'm getting these highly technical terms from TV because I know crap about cars) don't build up in computers. Pieces wear out, sure. But that can happen just as easily from frequent turning on and off. Like I said, my two computers at home stay on almost constantly, and I don't exactly dust or vacuum frequently. The last thing I had to replace was in my gaming PC, and that was the video card since it was two years old and couldn't play Crysis 2 well enough.
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Computers aren't like cars..."gunk" and "sludge" (and yes, I'm getting these highly technical terms from TV because I know crap about cars) don't build up in computers. Pieces wear out, sure. But that can happen just as easily from frequent turning on and off. Like I said, my two computers at home stay on almost constantly, and I don't exactly dust or vacuum frequently. The last thing I had to replace was in my gaming PC, and that was the video card since it was two years old and couldn't play Crysis 2 well enough.
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I don't know much about cars either. Maybe I wasn't using the correct tone, but I actually agree with you. Like I had said in my post I keep my machines running 24/7 usually same with cell phone. I don't know crap about cars either the only reason I used the comparison is that wear and tear from city driving or stop and go traffic (when compared to turning your pc on and off frequently) is worse than freeway or long distance without stop driving (as referring to keeping your PC on) So yea we are pretty much saying the same thing
Hey thank you for explaining it to me this way. I never thought of it like that. You are probably right. Excuse me for just one more question though: would keeping it on all the time actually end up using more power than you would if you kept it off?
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Hey thank you for explaining it to me this way. I never thought of it like that. You are probably right. Excuse me for just one more question though: would keeping it on all the time actually end up using more power than you would if you kept it off?
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Well...yeah, obviously. But if someone tries to call me in the middle of the night for an emergency, and I don't get the call because my phone was off, well, that would suck. But with Apex, I've went to sleep on, for instance, 80% battery, woke up, and the battery still said 80%. As for my computers, well, yeah, that costs me a little more per month, but it's not breaking my bank, so it doesn't bother me.
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I don't know much about cars either. Maybe I wasn't using the correct tone, but I actually agree with you. Like I had said in my post I keep my machines running 24/7 usually same with cell phone. I don't know crap about cars either the only reason I used the comparison is that wear and tear from city driving or stop and go traffic (when compared to turning your pc on and off frequently) is worse than freeway or long distance without stop driving (as referring to keeping your PC on) So yea we are pretty much saying the same thing
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Lol Sorry, I wasn't referring to your posts (we just both happened to use car references).
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Hey thank you for explaining it to me this way. I never thought of it like that. You are probably right. Excuse me for just one more question though: would keeping it on all the time actually end up using more power than you would if you kept it off?
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Yea but honestly if your pc isn't super holy **** beast mode it isn't going to be that noticeable. I have a nice higher-end PC and it isn't that bad on my bill.
So I've had my S5 for a few months now. It's basically been a dream for the time being.
Now the phone is pissing me off the same way the S4 pissed me off...
Battery life is totally fine, absolutely no complaints at all. My phone lasts for ages except for when I play tons of games on it.
Performance however is quite slow (probably due to lack of RAM).. despite running fstrim, cleaning cache on a weekly basis and using apps like Greenify etc.
The worst thing however is the ridiculous issues I am having with 3G/Data.
I am unsure if it is just my carrier (The largest network in Finland (SONERA)) or if it is my phone.
I made a video here of the EXACT SAME issue with Wifi (data is even WORSE):
http://youtu.be/2zNBV63Dk0U
Basically you see the first 2 pages load up pretty fast. Then what's with the wait on the rest of those pages whilst they are loading?
The speed of my network is 10MB/s up and down. It's a symmetric connection. It shouldn't be slow at all, and ping times are tiny. So why is it taking so long for my phone to resolve the website, regardless of the browser and method of connection (data or wifi) that I use?
Basically my phone will just switch between 3G and H/H+ continuously without actually being connected, or loading pages etc.
So basically I'll be in the middle of the capital city, on Finland's LARGEST network connected to 3G with FULL bars and not have a connection. Yet all around me, people are using their phones without remotely any issue at all on the same network..
Some information about my phone:
Galaxy S 5 (SM-G900F). Stock ROM, never flashed. Towelrooted.
4.4.2. - Baseband G900FXXU1ANE2
Build - KOT49H.G900FXXU1ANE4
Stock Kernel
80+ User Apps installed
Xposed Framework installed
The biggest issue I have is the fact that the Data connection just sucks in 2G or 3G. There's just this huge lag between loading any webpage, where there is literally ZERO data being transferred (I have the speed indicator xposed app), yet the icon just flashes back and forth from 3G to H to H+ and back. No matter what browser I use, and even often on Wi-Fi it's just terrible and there is STILL a huge wait time between pages actually loading. However apps at least seem to download totally fine.
I have my Buffalo N300 router on Wireless N. I am NOT running at 5Ghz, because it drains more battery. My 3G plan is set to 21Mbps, and I should have no throttling or cap. However I RARELY seem to see speeds over 250KB/s and in the centre of Helsinki or anywhere in the outlying (2-3km areas) there's just no data transfer at all. Full bars, but in some cases the entire network will just cut out and say that it is unavailable.
Could it be an issue with my phone's Modem? Could I just flash a newer modem over the current one that I have? The phone is running stock and it shouldn't be so slow, no matter what.
My stupid provider just suggested that I change to a more expensive 4G plan (yeah right, 3G on other providers was never remotely laggy)
Any ideas guys? I'll give you any information that you need to help me out...
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Well what info do you want from me?
I posted a video of how the pages load so slowly even on Wifi. I told you my router. It's a Buffalo N300. I don't have 5Ghz mode on. It's set to Wireless N. My internet speed is 100/100mbps. I think that is plenty of information.
I also gave my complete phone specs. My knox is 1x1 yes. I gave my baseband etc. above.
What exactly do you need to know about my configuration? It's set to use 3G always. I always seem to have bars of 3G (even if it won't connect) but there is NO data transfer at all. You can see in the video that the speed indicator in the taskbar doesn't show any data being transferred. There's just this large amount of time that it does nothing. The page loading/connection stalls and I have to wait. I've tried multiple browsers too like I said, and more than 1 Wi-Fi network.
If I swap back to 3G or 2G (WCDMA/2G) mode. Then the phone still stays on 3G 99.99% of the time, but there's still NO data transfer. On 2G it will work just slow enough that I can send a whatsapp message. But it won't load a webpage, not even slowly.
My carrier I also explained.. Sonera, the biggest carrier here in Finland, I also even explained the data plan I am on. 3G, 21mbps, no throttling, etc.
P.S. The speedtest in my signature, is my HOME WIFI connection. It has NOTHING to do with my data connection. I'm not talking about my DL speed or throughput, besides those are the speeds I get on my COMPUTER. I get slower speeds on my phone. I am talking about the LAG that I get when I try to open a page. I.E. Why does my phone just stall loading something and make me wait for ages for it to finish? Why does my connection just stop, and page loading just stop 40%-60% or whatever through loading something?
What extra info do you need? You keep saying 'phone congifuration' but I just gave you basically everything. What specific 'phone configuration' info do you need to know?
You know what phone I have, exactly what version, how it is rooted, etc. You know my data provider, my wifi and data speeds. You know the issue that I am explaining that I am experiencing and how it happens. Plus a bunch of other information, what is installed on my phone, my router and its set up. etc. etc. etc.
What more do you need?
Thanks for your reply but. Frankly I think I provided more information than most people do about their problems here.
P.S. Here's another video which shows me getting 12.5x slower speeds than I should be:
http://youtu.be/N0aTikEPbPM
Excuse the exasperation and that accompanies my Australian accent
I got some data issues too.in H+ data just won't move like it should.
I'm using saunalahti.
When i open a web page my 3g turns to h+ . I think that's the way i should work
because nothing happens with 3g.
Nothing mostly happens with my 3G either, it has to be on H to do anything. I am starting to think it's an issue with 'Fast Dormancy' and I might go ahead and disable that.
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Yes, you provided considerably more information than most people. Kudos if that makes you feel any better. However as I explained at length it still isn't nearly enough to effectively troubleshoot much. I also spelt out what would be useful to have. Having 60% of the details doesn't complete a puzzle significantly more than 40% would. It narrows things down a bit but you're still in the land of guessing and throwing out common issues hoping that one of them will turn out to be the problem at hand.
There are lots of people who will be happy to pseudo-randomly guess at the problem. And you can try each suggestion in turn until you hopefully hit upon the right one. I'm more interested in methodical troubleshooting which requires much more detailed information. As I described what would facilitate that and you still ask what do I want, I can only assume that you missed reading part of my earlier reply.
Regardless you can either post the details I requested or wait for others to point out how to address commonplace issues that may or may not help your situation.
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Are you for real? Practically all of your replies here are "You haven't given us enough information"
You practically know my phone and my data and Wi-Fi as well as I do, from what I have explained.
Now your reply is just paragraphs of you blabbering on about how I still haven't given you enough information for you to help me. If you think you're being constructive here or something replying like this to other people, you really aren't mate. Yes you did explain at length, three times that I didn't give you enough information. Yet you failed, to explain even ONCE exactly what information you want. Except to say "phone configuration" I mean seriously what? That's the most broad term you could possibly use on the forums here. I've explained my phone config, and- actually you know what, I won't do it again. I've explained everything so much and posted TWO VIDEOS of the issues that I am facing. If you seriously don't know enough about my problem then, with all due respect you are of absolutely no help to me what-so-ever.
The worst thing is, I'm usually a patient person and I am grateful for the help I get from other people in the forums here and anywhere else. But every-so-often someone like you comes around and I can't, for the life of me, even fathom as to how to even communicate with you. All of the information is right there in front of you to provide a second opinion or give your personal advice. Yet you're sticking with "You haven't provided enough information". There's nothing else I can do buddy, save actually giving you my phone and letting you look at it.
Also the way at which you seem to post in that I only seem to have 2 options here is really quite ridiculous. That I can either choose to give you more information (What information EXACTLY?) or basically just wait for other people to guesstimate what the issue could be (which I was totally fine with).
If you mean this information:
Or do any testing that might have revealed patterns in your data and wifi rates e.g. speed and latency tests at different times of the day
- What's the point? I explained here and in the videos that this has been happening all the time, for the past month.
with different providers
- I don't have another data provider to test with, I'm not made of money
direct comparisons to other phones on the same connection
- How the f*ck can I get stuff like this? I'm one person on my own, do you suppose I go stand out on the side of the road with a sign on a highway?
ping plots, service menu details about which bands are active and actual signal strengths or anything like that
- Do I look like a scientist to you? How am I supposed to know, and the phone doesn't give me any sort of way natively to even know any of this information
did you do any searches of forums dealing with specific providers e.g. BBR, Hofo, to see if anyone else is having provider issues?
- Yes and lots of people are having the same issues, even someone else replied to this thread stating he had the same issue
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That is a ridiculous amount of stuff to ask from someone and I have either given you the details already, or you're asking something that isn't physically possible for me to do.
Personally, I think you're going about this whole 'helping people' thing the wrong way. Like there is some choice between getting your 'professional' advice or something or basically just taking hints and suggestions here and there. I don't remotely agree with the way you post on the forums here. I've provided umpteen times more information than just about anyone else on the forum here, and no, that isn't a compliment to myself. It's a fact.
Ugh, this whole situation is just absolutely ridiculous. It's one thing to wrestle with a phone that isn't working correctly, but then when I come to the forums here for advice, I get replies like yours. Supposed helpful replies that are really just basically spam, constant reiteration of a moot point with equally absolutely no clear, or distinct point, subject or purpose to them at all.
Maybe you should take your own advice and be more specific with what information you want from people if you are going to bother to reply to them at all. Rather than just responding continuously with "We need more information". You represent 1 person on the forum here, and your ideas or advice are no more important or relevant than anyone else's. If you're going to try and help someone, don't confuse a person into thinking that they only have 1 source from which they can receive assistance and that they must first comply with your vague requests before they can get any assistance.
As for this now failure of a thread and my now wasted time replying and taking videos perfectly illustrating the problems I am facing with my phone. I am subsequently going to abandon this thread, unsubscribe from future replies and leave it here as both a documented source that there is an on-going issue (as many others have stated) with data and wifi lag and that for anyone else to perhaps understand your methods of posting better. Because I sure as day don't.
Thanks anyway I guess.
As for anyone else with the same issue. I am going to disable 'Fast Dormancy' and see if that solves my problem. Good luck to others facing the same issue.
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ignore fffft he has issues.
have you tried your sim in other phones? do they get good data speeds? if i were you i'd flash a modem update and see if that fixed anything. maybe try a prepaid carrier on your phone and see how its network speeds are.
Happened to me too - could be an app on your phone. Check settings to see which apps or using most battery and background services.
Or do what I did, and get an uninstaller to uninstall 70% of your apps you don't use - could make a massive difference!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cleanmaster.mguard
Try this
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Gosh.... Can you tell us own many more phone are connected to the same cell as you? This is already a difficult issue to troubleshoot, I guess your videos and long posts are useless. How can you distinguish between a mobile provider problem and a s5 problem?
fffft warned you!
Did you tried the cleanmaster solution?
Having the exact same problems in the US with sprint, I can have 3 or 4 bars of signal and apps report network failures and no data connection, I do not usually have an issue on wifi, but it does happen from time to time.
Rooted with towel
no custom recovery
Multiple frozen system apps
Purchased launch day from Sam's club
Xposed installed, I've disabled most of the modules I installed as they don't seem to work, especially any listed as Samsung specific
Still using TW
Often when the data loss issue occurs the 3g or LTE icon in the notification bar completely disappears, but the signal bar stays in 3-6 bars.
Current battery life seems to have no effect on the issue.
Mine is not just data, there are times the entire phone freezes and becomes unresponsive, taking 20-120 seconds to respond to pressing back or home even, and I get no response to pulling down the notification bar.
I do not use any task killers or battery mods or apps, I did notice a significant increase in occurrences approximately 3 weeks ago and the only thing I recall that I did then was to install hangouts dialer.
The troubleshooting I've done makes me believe the device is "detecting" high temps and turning off or slowing the CPU /GPU cores, thereby causing the apparent 'Lag'.
One incident happened last night, where no part of the phone felt hot, my game did not lose connection, but was on Wi-Fi, but I was getting 1 frame every 2+ minutes for 6 or 7 minutes, then the phone rebooted.
I have started making it a habit of opening Rom toolbox and checking the CPU current settings, during these issues I have never seen the CPU max over 1728 MHz.
The only information I located in a cat log was that frames were dropped and how many. Nothing about temperatures, many lines about IP addresses failing to respond. I do not have a saved catlog handy, but attached are a couple screenshots of data fails with good signal.
If you look, you may notice the warning notifications, those are sync errors with Google photos wanting sign in information for alternate accounts I have on the phone and don't want duplicating my phot backup too (some of my games I play 3 or 4 different accounts).
I will be happy to do any testing suggested as soon as I can and provide additional requested info without insults.
Necropost... Still having this issue, I've been on MOAR, Pac ROM, and Slim. 4.1.1, 4.2, & 5.1.1 android versions. Same problem, on Wi-Fi and Sprint. Phone is about to hit 2yrs old in April. Will be my first and last Samsung I guess... I've had a lot, Nexus is next I think...
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Now that I've got the Moto X Pure Edition activated, I've been able to work out some of the kinks inherent using it as a daily driver. One noteworthy issue that remains is an odd bug where the device will completely lose connection to the Internet on both a WiFi and cellular data connection, usually after transitioning between types of connections. When this happens, an exclamation point is displayed next to the icon representing whichever connection is currently active and nothing is able to transmit data to or from the Internet or even my local network.
Rebooting the device always fixes the problem, but this issue is materializing a bit too often for my liking, which is usually once every time that I return to a WiFi network after being disconnected from one for some time (more testing may have to be done to confirm exactly what triggers it).
The device is running the stock rom (rooted) and the stock kernel along with the usual tweaks (ad-blocking, Xposed framework, audio fixes, etc.). Anybody seen this before or know what might be causing it?
UPDATE (3/1/2017)
Figured it out! The problem appears to have been caused by my failure to whitelist certain applications in PowerNap. After following the instructions found in the Moto X Pure Edition power optimization thread, the problem appears to have vanished. I don't know if it was the Google Services Framework, JavaTcmdHelper, Android System, or some combination of those that needed to be whitelisted, but the problem has vanished. At least one of those must be responsible for verifying the validity of an Internet connection in sleep mode, which would cause the device to become confused when it would wake up with a different connection that it hadn't verified (that's my theory at least).
At any rate, it is no longer an issue.
Update (Later on 3/1/2017)
Well, it looks like it might not be fixed so well after all. A couple hours after arriving home today, I went to use the device and saw the dreaded "!" next to the network indicator. Still, two days is longer than it's ever lasted before. I've cleared the cache and dalvik/ART cache to see if something in there might be gumming it up and will add another post to this thread if the problem returns.
Still an issue
Looks like it might not be fixed after all. I lost connection again the other day in a parking lot and once more today after getting home. Any ideas as to what could be causing this?
I just recently got my x pure. I've seen this issue on mine too.
Another one!
inkdaddy66 said:
I just recently got my x pure. I've seen this issue on mine too.
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Interesting. Are you running the stock Rom? Rooted? Amplify/Greenify/PowerNap?
Bill720 said:
Interesting. Are you running the stock Rom? Rooted? Amplify/Greenify/PowerNap?
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I'm unlocked and rooted. Running validus 7.1.1 ROM.
does your configuration look anything like this?
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I'm unlocked and rooted. Running validus 7.1.1 ROM.
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That too is interesting. I'm running the stock Rom, (rooted) so we can probably eliminate that as a potential cause. Given how little reference there is to this on the web at large, the problem is probably caused by a common app or setting (or some kind of unfortunate combination) running on both of our phones.
All we need to do is figure out what kind of "unusual" stuff our devices have in common. I'll rattle off a list of software and settings that might be out of the ordinary or network-related; you tell me if you're running anything like it on your phone.
AdFree
A.R.I.S.E. audio
FolderSync
Ice Box (Motorola Update Service is the only frozen app)
TOTAL Wireless My Account App
Pebble, MyTracks, and Pebble MyTracks
SlingPlayer (this one sometimes wakelocks)
Titanium backup (I tried restoring some WiFi access points once, but it didn't work)
Xposed Framework with Amplify, Greenify, and Power Nap installed and configured as instructed in the Moto X Pure Edition battery life guide thread OP. I've also got MinMinGuard and YouTube AdAway.
As far as settings go, I've not got much in the way of unusual configurations. I enabled the system UI tuner to get the battery percentage and the extended developer options to try out multi-window, (and to change the animation scales to .5X) but everything in there is still pretty much stock.
Does your configuration have anything in common with mine?
Close, but no cigar
It got almost 8 days this time before it happened again. I thought that maybe switching to the legacy DHCP client had done the trick, but that was apparently not the case. Any ideas as to what could be causing the issue or how to fix it?
Or, if you're having the same problem, can you look at my list in the previous post and tell me if any of the software or settings are similar so that we can narrow down the cause?
I have had this problem appear about three times over my 13 months of ownership and all three times was when my bootloader was still locked (obviously running stock not rooted). Never found a solution except to reboot.i only unlocked and rooted my device about a month ago.
Anything familiar?
aybarrap1 said:
I have had this problem appear about three times over my 13 months of ownership and all three times was when my bootloader was still locked (obviously running stock not rooted). Never found a solution except to reboot.i only unlocked and rooted my device about a month ago.
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Interesting. Between that, my findings, and the fact that @inkdaddy66 was having the problem on a non-Motorola Rom, I want to think that we can eliminate the Rom software as a cause. Did you see any familiar software on my "potential troublemakers" list up in post 6? I'm thinking that if we can find a common program or workflow, then we'll be able to narrow down the cause of the problem.
In the meantime, I'll try posting in the general Android troubleshooting forum here on XDA and see if anybody there has seen the problem or has any troubleshooting tips.
Bill720 said:
Interesting. Between that, my findings, and the fact that @inkdaddy66 was having the problem on a non-Motorola Rom, I want to think that we can eliminate the Rom software as a cause. Did you see any familiar software on my "potential troublemakers" list up in post 6? I'm thinking that if we can find a common program or workflow, then we'll be able to narrow down the cause of the problem.
In the meantime, I'll try posting in the general Android troubleshooting forum here on XDA and see if anybody there has seen the problem or has any troubleshooting tips.
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Nothing used from your list except system UI tuner when I experienced the problems. That would leave either a ROM and/or hardware issue IMO.
Cause and effect differential diagnosis
aybarrap1 said:
Nothing used from your list except system UI tuner when I experienced the problems. That would leave either a ROM and/or hardware issue IMO.
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Hmmm... That's also interesting, but I just don't see how system UI tuner could be harming anything. Do you have any other apps or settings at all that you think could be causing the issue?
If this were anything other than my primary, I'd hard reset and troubleshoot that way, but I don't exactly have the time to pull the rug out of an otherwise-working setup right now, so this is going to have to be done the hard way (or, in the case of hardware glitch, lived with).
At any rate, I discovered a new symptom earlier in the week. This time, Internet connection was lost, but only for WiFi, so the connection would actually fall back to Cellular and still continue to work. As before, toggling the connection had no effect, but rebooting the device "fixed" it. I thought maybe it was a fluke, since we'd had an AP hiccup over the weekend, (I refuse to reboot that thing because I'm going for an uptime record) but it happened again on Wednesday, so I'm not sure what to make of it.
Side-issue aside, I'm beginning to wonder if it's some kind of combination of network behavior and usage pattern that brings the issue about. It seems like if I stay within range of the WiFi network, no issue develops, but if I move out of its coverage and don't touch the phone for a while, that allows for ideal conditions under which to replicate the problem (sometimes). I haven't nailed down a consistent pattern yet, but the problem does emerge more often when I'm returning home than at other times. Any thoughts?
Update (3/24/2017; 12:32PM)
Scratch that last part about the issue only being triggered upon "arriving home." The problem happened again this morning, in the same general area. First, no WiFI, then, after resetting the connections, no cellular either. I captured a LogCat before rebooting this time though. Anyone want to take a crack at sifting through that to see if it offers any clues?
I lose cellular data, from time to time, I don't kow if I'm losing WiFi capability also, because I'm on the road when this happens.
It takes a reboot or switching in and out of airplane mode to regain data.
I have had this happen on TruPureXMM ROM and stock-rooted Marshmallow.
I have not spent much time on stock-unrooted, so i don't know if it would happen then, also.
Possible fix
Just to follow up on this again, I have finally reached the eighth day of uptime without the problem materializing, which is the longest that I was able to go before without it happening. This time, I went in to the developer options and disabled "Cellular data always active." I'd give it another couple days to know for sure, but if this sticks, then I think we might've found the fix!
pizza_pablo said:
I lose cellular data, from time to time, I don't kow if I'm losing WiFi capability also, because I'm on the road when this happens.
It takes a reboot or switching in and out of airplane mode to regain data.
I have had this happen on TruPureXMM ROM and stock-rooted Marshmallow.
I have not spent much time on stock-unrooted, so i don't know if it would happen then, also.
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If your trouble is isolated to just one connection and/or cycling the connection brings it back, then the issue you are experiencing is unrelated to the one described in this thread.
Bill720 said:
Just to follow up on this again, I have finally reached the eighth day of uptime without the problem materializing, which is the longest that I was able to go before without it happening. This time, I went in to the developer options and disabled "Cellular data always active." I'd give it another couple days to know for sure, but if this sticks, then I think we might've found the fix!
If your trouble is isolated to just one connection and/or cycling the connection brings it back, then the issue you are experiencing is unrelated to the one described in this thread.
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Cellular data always active should never be on (it's disabled in stock rom), except if you have VoLTE only with no fallback to 3G or 2G (Jio is the only provider that comes to mind, but this phone doesn't support their service anyway) or otherwise unusual scenarios I can't really think of.
Huh, and CELLULAR DATA ALWAYS ACTIVE (for faster network switching) sounds like such a good thing.
Mine was selected on.
My loss of data happens in the same spot, usually, but is not leaving wifi. Perhaps it is a tower to tower handoff spot.
I turned it off. Time will tell.
Thanks, fellas!
pizza_pablo said:
Huh, and CELLULAR DATA ALWAYS ACTIVE (for faster network switching) sounds like such a good thing.
Mine was selected on.
My loss of data happens in the same spot, usually, but is not leaving wifi. Perhaps it is a tower to tower handoff spot.
I turned it off. Time will tell.
Thanks, fellas!
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Always on is not necessarily a good thing. Reality is that when you lose or turn off WiFi, mobile data should only be delayed only by a second or two. There is no real benefit to having it on except for maybe VOLTE.
pizza_pablo said:
Huh, and CELLULAR DATA ALWAYS ACTIVE (for faster network switching) sounds like such a good thing.
Mine was selected on.
My loss of data happens in the same spot, usually, but is not leaving wifi. Perhaps it is a tower to tower handoff spot.
I turned it off. Time will tell.
Thanks, fellas!
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Actually, it's a battery killer more than anything else... It keeps cellular data active even when on WiFi.
It is possible it's a tower thing though. I have noticed at this one hotel I stay at frequently people tell me they call and it rings or just goes to voicemail even though I have good signal. After investigating it a bit, I'm in a spot that has nearly identical signal strength from 3 towers and it's a metro area so there are 4+ bands accessible... I've seen times watching LTE Discovery where it keeps switching bands and towers for 30 to 120 seconds or so, like it can't make up it's mind what to talk to because it's confused, then it locks on for a while before it starts it's cycle again. During those cycles I think is when people can't call me, can't really say if it affects internet or not since I tend not to use my phone too much in the evenings when I'm on the road (usually on laptop).
Uptime record, but... it's back
acejavelin said:
Cellular data always active should never be on (it's disabled in stock rom), except if you have VoLTE only with no fallback to 3G or 2G (Jio is the only provider that comes to mind, but this phone doesn't support their service anyway) or otherwise unusual scenarios I can't really think of.
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Interesting. I thought for sure that I had the default settings checked in there, but maybe I did change it early on and just forgot. Either way, waiting an extra five seconds to establish a data connection isn't that huge of a deal for me, so I'll leave it off anyway in exchange for battery life when the signal's poor.
At any rate, however, the problem has returned. I was just a few hours short of 9 days of uptime and really thought that I was out of the woods with this problem, but it has returned once again upon returning into range of the home access point. Looks like we're back to the drawing board on this one.
pizza_pablo said:
Huh, and CELLULAR DATA ALWAYS ACTIVE (for faster network switching) sounds like such a good thing.
Mine was selected on.
My loss of data happens in the same spot, usually, but is not leaving wifi. Perhaps it is a tower to tower handoff spot.
I turned it off. Time will tell.
Thanks, fellas!
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So you're having the same problem too? That makes at least four of us now. Do you mind sharing what Rom and flashed tweaks (Xposed Framework, A.R.I.S.E. audio, root, etc.) you're using as well as any unusual software or settings? Anything in common with my list on page 1?
Bill720 said:
So you're having the same problem too? That makes at least four of us now. Do you mind sharing what Rom and flashed tweaks (Xposed Framework, A.R.I.S.E. audio, root, etc.) you're using as well as any unusual software or settings? Anything in common with my list on page 1?
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I think we've established that my issue is different, but it has occurred on TruPureXMM and stock but rooted Marshmallow, both with Substratum, Xposed (Gravity Box only) and Viper Atmos.
Same as you =Titanium Backup
*another* new strategy (sigh)
For this week's shot in the dark, I'm going to try manually switching WiFi off before I leave anyplace covered by an access point. Since the problem seems to occur most often when connected to WiFi or when connecting to it, maybe this will make some kind of a difference.
pizza_pablo said:
I think we've established that my issue is different, but it has occurred on TruPureXMM and stock but rooted Marshmallow, both with Substratum, Xposed (Gravity Box only) and Viper Atmos.
Same as you =Titanium Backup
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I see now; my mistake.