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CyanogenMod 7 For Desire Z Video Demonstration

Hi guys,
I came across this video posted here that shows CyaongenMod 7 RC-0 working on HTC Desire Z. According to the demonstrator in the video, there are no CyanogenMod settings (of course if it's RC-0, you wont have them), Camera not working and also Wi-Fi and GPS act stupid. I believe that its a raw compilation from CM git. What do you all think?

I think he's gonna call it CM 6.2 as 2.3 isn't really groundbreaking. Last update.zip I made from the source it had graphical glitches and no usb,gps,wifi,bluetooth, etc support
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Seconded. My guess is 6.2. Or maybe 6.3, to match up the version numbers..? Haha.

Cyanogen is going to make it 7.0, said so on his twitter

When you compile the gingerbread CM build from git, it says CM 7.0-RC0

i don't see many new things in gingerbread, even cyanogen doesn't use original launcher . Only some touch in gui..., no revolutionary interface...( i still remember google said, no custom launcher again in gingerbread )

Flippy125 said:
I think he's gonna call it CM 6.2 as 2.3 isn't really groundbreaking. Last update.zip I made from the source it had graphical glitches and no usb,gps,wifi,bluetooth, etc support
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LOL. Nope. CM7

Wish the whole video wasn't about showing what's broken though
After all the work done today, it's down to the camcorder and a minor GL glitch that causes Quadrant to crash. The camcorder is broken on every platform except for the Nexus S. I think it's fixable, and I have it partially working.

cyanogen said:
Wish the whole video wasn't about showing what's broken though
After all the work done today, it's down to the camcorder and a minor GL glitch that causes Quadrant to crash. The camcorder is broken on every platform except for the Nexus S. I think it's fixable, and I have it partially working.
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Oh yay! I haven't attempted to compile source since power went out (along with cell towers) and the power company won't have it fixed until xmas so I'm currently running off of generator =/ I tried doing a repo sync earlier but got impatient and will probably set it to run over night
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What are the difference.
The first rumours about gingerbread talked about "great" changes...
I can't hardly "see" any changes.
I am wondering what the real changes are. Does it work faster? Does it has another feel? What does it do with the battery?
I was looking forward to gingerbread, but i am afraid it is going to be dissappointing.
(PS sorry for my ****ty english.)
BTW love the hard work of the cyanogenmod team.

jhhest said:
The first rumours about gingerbread talked about "great" changes...
I can't hardly "see" any changes.
I am wondering what the real changes are. Does it work faster? Does it has another feel? What does it do with the battery?
I was looking forward to gingerbread, but i am afraid it is going to be dissappointing.
(PS sorry for my ****ty english.)
BTW love the hard work of the cyanogenmod team.
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apparently those have been delayed to 3.0 >:O

if the changes have been delayed to honeycomb, then what was the point of releasing Gingerbread...

aliwaqas said:
if the changes have been delayed to honeycomb, then what was the point of releasing Gingerbread...
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Security updates, patches, and here and there things.

From what I have seen there are a few kool things but I guess we will no when it comes out. I'm using virtuos 0.8.1 havnt used any other rom I'm thinking if cynogen gets gingerbread then I think I'm jumping ship. The rom I'm using now is nice and pretty but there is a lot of updates and bugs have to update or reset the phone way to often sorry evil and rmk
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aliwaqas said:
if the changes have been delayed to honeycomb, then what was the point of releasing Gingerbread...
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There are some seriously awesome things for developers to use, the biggest are the new native APIs that finally puts Android on par with iPhone for gaming. Other than the dark theme and SIP calling, all the good stuff in G is under the hood.

cheers cyanogen. its cool to see you still on xda after all this time.

cyanogen said:
There are some seriously awesome things for developers to use, the biggest are the new native APIs that finally puts Android on par with iPhone for gaming. Other than the dark theme and SIP calling, all the good stuff in G is under the hood.
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Your forgetting about the EQ in the music app... I'm most excited about that =)
Earlier, I was most excited about smoother scrolling, but with virtuous and OCed to 1.4 ghz it's smooth as butter! I LOVE THIS PHONE

cyanogen said:
Wish the whole video wasn't about showing what's broken though
After all the work done today, it's down to the camcorder and a minor GL glitch that causes Quadrant to crash. The camcorder is broken on every platform except for the Nexus S. I think it's fixable, and I have it partially working.
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I'm so eager to use the actual gingerbread keyboard! =D with the cool highlighting and shtuff. =)

I am using cm 6.1 stable with a nexus s theme which gives it a little bit of a gingerbread look and I like it. Everything is smooth and clean
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Stable Gingerbread build for daily yet?

Sometimes interpreting all the [tags] and t3Rmin0logy in the dev forum can be a bit of a headache for us non-dev types who are just looking for the latest and greatest ROMs and kernels to try out without necessarily compiling something from scratch.
So that's why I made this post. I'm really interested in trying out a Gingerbread 2.3 ROM but I'm not sure what the general consensus is on this without reading several hundred posts/replies.
Can anyone with insight summarize?

Basically, you won't have a stable gingerbread release until:
- CM7 is declared stable (for AOSP roms)
- HTC releases a gingerbread ROM themselves (for Sense roms)
Neither of those appear to be about to happen in the immediate future. So for now, I don't think any of them are officially considered stable for daily use.

Ive been using the ROM in this thread as my daily driver for a while now. Enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877653

Been running evervolv since the beginning and I use it as my daily. I absolutely love it. The only problem right now is the gps works great for some and off and on for others but the developer has added the app gps status to the newest build and the gps seems very stable now as a result. Also, as of right now the camcorder doesnt work but it is being worked on. Other than that u just have the other issues like u would with any other aosp rom. Which is no 4g and no hdmi. But if your wanting to try gb I highly recommend this rom. The developer is awesome and it's been updated almost nightly. Like I said, I've been using it everyday since it's been out and haven't regretted it one bit. Hope that helps.
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bkrodgers said:
Basically, you won't have a stable gingerbread release until:
- CM7 is declared stable (for AOSP roms)
- HTC releases a gingerbread ROM themselves (for Sense roms)
Neither of those appear to be about to happen in the immediate future. So for now, I don't think any of them are officially considered stable for daily use.
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I would have to disagree with that. Like I just stated, I've been using evervolv as my daily and haven't thought twice about it. Besides gps being a little shaky and no video recording I would have to say it's been as stable as any other rom I've ran and I've ran almost all of them.
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i'm running the cm7 rc0 right now and it is pretty sweet. i wont be using it as a daily driver because i love sense's widgets especially the task one. but if you like aosp roms then it is your dream.

corzo002 said:
Ive been using the ROM in this thread as my daily driver for a while now. Enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877653
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You don't need video recording or GPS? Or is that fixed now? I've been watching the thread (not lately though because of the holiday) and all that still needs work. I'd love to use this ROM as a daily driver but I need video rec. and GPS/Latitude/Sprint Family Locator are a must.

Tiffany84 said:
I would have to disagree with that. Like I just stated, I've been using evervolv as my daily and haven't thought twice about it. Besides gps being a little shaky and no video recording I would have to say it's been as stable as any other rom I've ran and I've ran almost all of them.
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then I wouldn't consider that "stable"..

phistyle said:
then I wouldn't consider that "stable"..
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Well video and gps aren't really that important to me but actually gps is working fine for me on evervolv's latest release. So for what I need it to do it's extremely stable. Just depends on what your needs are.
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Tiffany84 said:
Well video and gps aren't really that important to me but actually gps is working fine for me on evervolv's latest release. So for what I need it to do it's extremely stable. Just depends on what your needs are.
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Shaky GPS + no video = GARBAGE. I don't think most people use the Evo just for phone calls. Myn's rom with the gingerbread keyboard has been more then enough to hold me over until he comes out with a 2.3 rom. CM is cool n all but no 4G or HDMI is wack. If you bought the evo to use all its features and not because it looks like an oversized iphone, just stick with Myn and try to be patient.
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I'm so sorry I like aosp more than 4g. 4g only makes tethering faster our browser and stuff will still process at low kilobit rates
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I've been using the GB rom posted by AndroidBall as a daily driver and have been very pleased. Camcorder FC and obviously no 4G (none in my area anyway) and no HDMI (no need), but otherwise rock solid and incredibly fast. The most impressive aspect of GB, or at least this rom, has been the battery life. As good as any rom I've ever tried and way better than any AOSP rom I've used previously. That alone is reason enough to stick with a somewhat incomplete version of GB for now.

welshwarriorsf said:
Shaky GPS + no video = GARBAGE. I don't think most people use the Evo just for phone calls. Myn's rom with the gingerbread keyboard has been more then enough to hold me over until he comes out with a 2.3 rom. CM is cool n all but no 4G or HDMI is wack. If you bought the evo to use all its features and not because it looks like an oversized iphone, just stick with Myn and try to be patient.
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mmm....and patience just oozes from your post.
assuming someone is able to read the OP on a given thread, they should be able to identify what is working vs not working. so long as the 'not workings' do not impact that user then it's fine.
some folks don't live in 4G areas and others (like myself) live in a 4G area but haven't missed it that much. although a second radio would be handy so Trillian doesn't loose connection when i get a phone call. Other folks feel that 4G is either a requisite or their god-given-right (the last one usually points out the $10 fee as their landmark).
and i haven't gone out to buy that $30 cable so i can watch 720p movies on my 1080p TV. my home network is setup to handle that task.
some folks just plain don't like using Sense or prefer to support/use ASOP as much as possible. many folks have commented on the speed and fun-features of CM.
that being said, the CM7RC0 is stable for standard usage (ie: it doesn't randomly reboot or try to melt your sdcard or format your home computer and is no long likely to try to kill your kitten. it has not reached RC1, which kinda means it's not done cooking (so...keep an eye on the kitten). I would expect a RC1 in the not too distant future. i've been using this thread .... just make sure to read the OP for things working vs not working.
when CM7 is released it should come wimax and maybe the upgraded hdmi.
what i like about Lithid's thread is that he doesn't try to take responsibly for the ROM. he just gave some good instructions on how to compile from the CM repo so that i can do it myself whenever i like. not that i'm likely to continue once the nightlys are back.

welshwarriorsf said:
Shaky GPS + no video = GARBAGE. I don't think most people use the Evo just for phone calls. Myn's rom with the gingerbread keyboard has been more then enough to hold me over until he comes out with a 2.3 rom. CM is cool n all but no 4G or HDMI is wack. If you bought the evo to use all its features and not because it looks like an oversized iphone, just stick with Myn and try to be patient.
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I wouldnt call them garbage but I agree with you in the point you made about not using a rom thats not 100% functional. Pretty much the main reason I stick with the sense roms.

I guess I just like my phones features to actually function. Guess that's a wild idea. $30 for micro hdmi to hdmi? Try $5.80 @ monoprice for 10 ft. and good quality too. Don't wanna watch 720p on your 1080p tv? No neither would I but you might wanna play a game you have on your phone, including all the roms you could have, on your tv. Or you could play 720p video that you shot on your phone on your big hdtv, but your rom might not even record video so so much for that idea. Why would you not want those things to work.
Its like: I got a keyboard to sell you, trouble is only 20 letters still work, but you probably don't use those anyway, still want it?
Sent from my Evo 4G running Warm TwoPointTwo using the XDA app

Please try and stop being so defensive, Welsh. 4g and HDMI out are really cool features. I don't think anyone is going to argue that point with you. But for a lot of people, they are just not used much, if at all. Do I want to be able to plug my phone into my TV? Heck yes. And I have a cable for it. But why on earth would I ever need to do that? I have 5 computers I can hook up to my tv, plus a 360, ps3, wii, etc.
The only real use of the hdmi out, at least for me, is that I can take it to someone else's house and plug it into their tv, but I've never done that. I doubt I ever will, either, so it's a feature that I personally don't use.
Then there's 4g, which is another really cool feature that doesn't get much use. I have 4g where I'm at, but I also almost always have wifi, too, so again, I almost never use the feature. Also remember that a lot of people don't even get 4g service, so they can't use it.
A better keyboard analogy is this: I've got a keyboard to sell you. It's probably the nicest keyboard you'll ever use, but it has no function keys or a caps lock.
As long as you don't actually use the function keys or the caps lock, then the keyboard is a great choice. Similarly, Cyanogenmod is (in my opinion, of course) the best rom for this phone. Sure, it's missing some features (features that are being worked on, by the way). But I don't use them, so I'm not going to miss them. There's no need to get hostile.

welshwarriorsf said:
I guess I just like my phones features to actually function. Guess that's a wild idea. $30 for micro hdmi to hdmi? Try $5.80 @ monoprice for 10 ft. and good quality too. Don't wanna watch 720p on your 1080p tv? No neither would I but you might wanna play a game you have on your phone, including all the roms you could have, on your tv. Or you could play 720p video that you shot on your phone on your big hdtv, but your rom might not even record video so so much for that idea. Why would you not want those things to work.
Its like: I got a keyboard to sell you, trouble is only 20 letters still work, but you probably don't use those anyway, still want it?
Sent from my Evo 4G running Warm TwoPointTwo using the XDA app
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Problem is nothing is being sold or paid and there is no implied 100% functionality from the developers. I'd almost say if you want 100%, Sense and taking it a little further, Stock OEM Rom is your only real bet. Even the cleanest custom Sense Roms have little quirks.
So being overly critical of the "gifts" being given (by way of these Roms) is a little sh*tty but don't get me wrong, to each their own, people can gripe to the high heavens as it's just how people can be.
Everevolv has been very solid for me but I will deal with no 4G and no video recording (are these really that big of a deal to so many people?) and the Maps isn't essential BUT of all the things not working in this ASOP rom is the biggest in my mind... so I just don't get lost.
Anyone that has been in the "flashdance" game for awhile knows what we are getting ourselves into. If you aren't prepared, don't join this crowd. If you have a problem with a rom and would consider dogging it, then the easy thing to do is NOT FLASH IT. I really do think its bad taste to flame on about something you aren't paying and was provided freely and certainly not with malicious intent.
Maybe I'm just getting soft...

Tiffany84 said:
I would have to disagree with that. Like I just stated, I've been using evervolv as my daily and haven't thought twice about it. Besides gps being a little shaky and no video recording I would have to say it's been as stable as any other rom I've ran and I've ran almost all of them.
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I guess what I meant was more about it being "officially" stable. I don't think any of the developers of the GB roms are advertising it as a stable build yet. Evervolv isn't even being called a beta yet -- the dev is quite clear in calling it an alpha. That doesn't mean it can't meet your needs just fine for daily use. But nobody's claiming to have a ROM that's intended to be as solid as a 2.2 ROM yet.
I also think that it's fair to say that until CM, which I think it looked to as the definitive AOSP ROM developer (no offense to those behind MIUI or any of the other devs) says that CM7 is ready for prime time, it's still not quite there. And it's definitely fair to say that until HTC releases a GB update (or at least we see a beta leak), we won't see any Sense GB ROMs, at least nothing beyond an experimental hybrid of the two.
I may have also read too much into the subject of the OP. The body makes it clear (s)he is looking to go cutting edge. But the subject said stable for daily use, and I read that in the more stricter sense of whether something is declared stable.

bkrodgers said:
I guess what I meant was more about it being "officially" stable. I don't think any of the developers of the GB roms are advertising it as a stable build yet. Evervolv isn't even being called a beta yet -- the dev is quite clear in calling it an alpha. That doesn't mean it can't meet your needs just fine for daily use. But nobody's claiming to have a ROM that's intended to be as solid as a 2.2 ROM yet.
I also think that it's fair to say that until CM, which I think it looked to as the definitive AOSP ROM developer (no offense to MIUI or anyone other devs) says that CM7 is ready for prime time, it's still not quite there. And it's definitely fair to say that until HTC releases a GB update (or at least we see a beta leak), we won't see any Sense GB ROMs, at least nothing beyond an experimental hybrid of the two.
I may have also read too much into the subject of the OP. The body makes it clear (s)he is looking to go cutting edge. But the subject said stable for daily use, and I read that in the more stricter sense of whether something is declared stable.
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True. I suppose "Stable" really is subjective. I have no boot loops or randomness FC's or reboots, that's stable to me. A romrom that is stable yet completely unfunctional is no good but stable and hitting on most of the core functions of the phone works for somw, not for others.
Good post and who knows, the OP may have yet another idea of what stable is to them.

welshwarriorsf said:
I guess I just like my phones features to actually function. Guess that's a wild idea. $30 for micro hdmi to hdmi? Try $5.80 @ monoprice for 10 ft. and good quality too. Don't wanna watch 720p on your 1080p tv? No neither would I but you might wanna play a game you have on your phone, including all the roms you could have, on your tv. Or you could play 720p video that you shot on your phone on your big hdtv, but your rom might not even record video so so much for that idea. Why would you not want those things to work.
Its like: I got a keyboard to sell you, trouble is only 20 letters still work, but you probably don't use those anyway, still want it?
Sent from my Evo 4G running Warm TwoPointTwo using the XDA app
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.. desiring to have all the features work on your device makes total sense to me. but why should i cry over spilled milk when i don't use/drink milk?
.. like cole said, the only time i can see a use for the hdmi is if put a movie on my sdcard and went over to a friends house. yeah, that would be kinda slick. but i'd have to make sure to remember to bring the cable with me. which if you knew me...would make you laugh. prolly should get a larger sdcard as well.
.. i play real games on my big screen not AngryBirds or PenguinToss. i have taken only 3 or 4 video recordings with my evo since i got it opening weekend. all of them were me just testing/playing with settings.
.. if i like the keyboard and i don't use those keys, sure. the reverse would be like saying it's stoopid to buy a sports car (Corvette, Ferrari, Bugatti, etc) because you cannot use the primary feature set. or the avg single person using a SUV for their daily commute should take the train or ride a bike/moped.
do you you see what is trying to be conveyed here?
not everyone uses the device in the same way. this is a fine and wonderful thing. so long as we are aware that others may try to use the device in ways that we don't even think of. it's wise of us to remember this and be open to different utilization needs/desires. for example, one person is unable to migrate to CM6 due to no 4G. for them 4G was a real big deal since they tethered their pc to it everyday. i have yet to tether my device other than to show off. for someone else, they require GPS to be rock solid, i use it rarely. i do like the idea that i can compile my own OS, most folks don't give a ****. i like that i'm running an AOSP ROM, many folks don't know what it means or why some consider it important. do you see where i'm coming from? i don't slam your Sense based ROM's because they are slow and kludgey compared to CM. actually, if you want to know the gods honest truth...what i miss MOST from the Sense based ROMs....all over Copy/Paste and integrated FB picture sync to the contact list. those are features that feel i 'gave up' in order to run CM, not HDMI or 4G.
oh yeah, we are also discussing a RC0 ROM. do you know what RC0 means? it means the Dev's consider the ROM not ready for public consumption. it hasn't even reached official RC1 (aka: Beta). and i'll still run it before i run a Sense based ROM. every time i load a Sense ROM, my device is back onto CM before the following sunset occurs. but that is MY choice. it is MY preference. now gfowygdfsbrtbs.

How close are we to DD Gingerbread?

Firstly, I'd like to make the standard "I love our devs" statement. When I first purchased my Vibrant, I loved the hardware, and absolutely hated the software.
Freezing, glitching music, non functional GPS, you name it; a myriad of issues. Then I flashed my first ROM, and fell in love with it. You guys turn a very mediocre phone, into arguably one of the best phones available, including what's been released after.
This post is more out of curiosity than anything. I currently have Darkies 2.2.1 ROM and it runs like a dream-
How far are we, realistically speaking, to a stable Gingerbread ROM? I follow the current Gingerbread alpha rom threads, and it seems like they aren't making a whole lot of progress. I assume this is because of roadblocks? What is keeping us from moving forward with a Gingerbread rom? Do we need the source released?
Thanks guys.

CM7 beta is now out for the Vibrant. However, that's not what's got me the most excited. The i9000 has recently got a gingerbread ROM leaked from Samsung. This should mean we should see the forums flooded with gingerbread ROMs in the coming days/weeks as soon as somebody can port the kernel over to the vibrant.

i'd say the cm7 is dd-able. no gps is the only real problem i've had, which isn't enough for me to go back to nongingerbread. the external sd doesn't mount, either, but i never used it anyway.... otherwise, sound works, haven't had a problem with data/calls/reboots, camera and video recording work, etc.

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i'd say the cm7 is dd-able. no gps is the only real problem i've had, which isn't enough for me to go back to nongingerbread. the external sd doesn't mount, either, but i never used it anyway.... otherwise, sound works, haven't had a problem with data/calls/reboots, camera and video recording work, etc.
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I would go out on a limb here and say that this is pretty close...

It might be a while before it gets to be a care free DD. The whitehawx and CM iterations both work in theory but they are still pretty raw in terms of total useability.
I say give it a while and we'll see more true GB progress.
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Like I said, the leaked i9000 2.3.2 ROM should have a great effect on the 2.3 GB ROM dev community for the Vibrant.

CM7 is my dd right now, and it actually seems more stable than any other rom I've tried (I had reboots and lockups with bionix when using gps). The tower-based location isn't as accurate as real gps, but is good enough for pulling up directions most of the time. Gps is also supposedly fixed on github, but I think they were saying to hold off on flashing anything from github until they get some issue with the new touchkey driver sorted out.

What are the benefits of GB over Froyo as a daily driver at this point. From what I've read, there's not likely to be any significant performance increase and most of the new features are minor. Other than the cosmetic differences, what's so bad about being stuck on Froyo?

Shrivel said:
What are the benefits of GB over Froyo as a daily driver at this point. From what I've read, there's not likely to be any significant performance increase and most of the new features are minor. Other than the cosmetic differences, what's so bad about being stuck on Froyo?
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nothing is bad about being stuck on froyo. i thought people making a big deal about the lock screen animation were being ridiculous, but it really is damn cool. it's just the little things like that, just like it's the little things that make you like a certain rom over another.
that, and 'why not'? they keep making new versions, and we'll keep finding a way to get it on our phones.

i went on i9000 forum and flashed insanity 7.1 gingerbread and it ran fine ...makes me thin we are soooo colse to get it on vibrant hmmmm i say two more weeks ......thats what methink.

bartek25 said:
i went on i9000 forum and flashed insanity 7.1 gingerbread and it ran fine ...makes me thin we are soooo colse to get it on vibrant hmmmm i say two more weeks ......thats what methink.
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My problem with change

I hate change. So, since I have worked on specializing NY CM7 for just me, then ics coming out, makes it hard for me to want to go to it. I love my setup as well as my performance here on gingerbread. But, I have pulled myself to download oICSv41 as well as the GLaDOS kernel. Is there any big bugs with v41 I should know about..? As well as with GLaDOS. I know of the reboot problem, but it sounds like its just people using set CPU. And if I do have problems ill just go to mathkids trusty matr1x kernel that I've been using since 6.0. Although none of you will provably care I just felt the need to say this, thanks guys
PS. If you have problems like this, post then below, weather it be with phones or not.
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michaelg117 said:
I hate change. So, since I have worked on specializing NY CM7 for just me, then ics coming
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I haven't had any issue at all except for slight launcher lag.
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I hate change too... I've flashed and tried just about every ICS rom and kernel out right now, but still find myself nandroiding back to my latest GB MIUI setup. Not once did I get excited about ICS coming out... honestly I don't see what all the hype is about. It took a year to get GB to what it is today, so I wonder what ICS will be a year from now.
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I feel exactly the same way. I absolutely LOVE my gingerbread the way it is. And about five minutes ago, I flashed back to good ole gb. I wont flash ics until an official ota cones out.
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Idk bout you guys but I'm not afraid to try new things, have fun living in the past cavemen lol. But things about ics right know are all known issues that Google already knows about. Bad battery life due to android os keeping the phone awake, home screen lag which gets resolved by using either kernels you mentioned and depending on the from you settle on, incoming mms doesn't work but outgoing does. Other than that, its bad ass and something new.
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I tried ICS for a day, straight back to GB for me, it seemed like a step backward for me coming from MV roms.

Matr1x v13.0
(Oc 1300/200 smartassv2 and live Oc 105% raise voltages by 15)
Nexusbeam 4.0.1
Perfect combination. Everything works, no complaints.
Quadrant scores of 3434, which is respectable.
ICS is the way to go!
Hope this helps you decide.

Even though I finally have a decently running ICS ROM.. I'm still disappointed by ICS. I think a lot of it had to do with the very large overhyping it got.. I mean we all thought our phones would be ****ting rainbows and unicorns, and didn't, not even close. It's a cosmetic re-design with annoying hardware accelerated web browsing..
The accelerated web browsing is so poorly implemented one of the first features I'd love to see in a ROM is the ability to turn it off. I'm much rather put up with the occasional "hitching" while scrolling instead of the "Scroll, scroll scroll, wait for it to render and make the blur go away" craptacular experience it is now.

styckx said:
I think a lot of it had to do with the very large overhyping it got.. I mean we all thought our phones would be ****ting rainbows and unicorns, and didn't, not even close.
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And that's the story with anything new that comes out. Everyone hears about something new and runs with it and praises it to the heavens and back without knowing anything about it (true hands on experience). Its always best to form your own opinion on things and not let hype or anything like that to get in your way of judging something.
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styckx said:
Even though I finally have a decently running ICS ROM.. I'm still disappointed by ICS. I think a lot of it had to do with the very large overhyping it got.. I mean we all thought our phones would be ****ting rainbows and unicorns, and didn't, not even close. It's a cosmetic re-design with annoying hardware accelerated web browsing..
The accelerated web browsing is so poorly implemented one of the first features I'd love to see in a ROM is the ability to turn it off. I'm much rather put up with the occasional "hitching" while scrolling instead of the "Scroll, scroll scroll, wait for it to render and make the blur go away" craptacular experience it is now.
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It's weird because the render time is insanely long on the OTA. But, when I had installed Kwiboo's or CM9, the browser experience was amazing!
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I dunno, i look at GB now and it look ugly and clunky. Stock ICS is running just as fast (or faster) and stable as stock GB did for me. I don't even have the desire to play with custom ROMs and kernels anymore, ICS is so close to perfection for my needs. Unless CM9 offers something really great, I'm sticking with stock ICS.

Movement Back to GingerBread

So after having been running ICS roms for the past 2 months or so, I decided to switch back to my favorite Gingerbread rom for the hell of it, to see exactly what I'd been giving up for ICS. And WOW, was I blown away. I remember GB was a lot faster than ICS, but geez I did not remember it being this fast. EVERYTHING opens and closes quicker, touch responsiveness is amazing, screens swipe lightning quick, and I'm sorry, even though I did realize ICS improved battery life a little bit from my initial impressions, GB is giving me better battery life than most of the ICS roms I have used. Most importantly to me though, my phone has simply just become more of a joy to use. And less of CHORE. ICS makes texting a pain in the ass. And not only that, but basically doing anything, browsing, having to constantly re-press anything, scrolling.......omg scrolling. Going down your facebook newsfeed is definitely a chore on ICS. Seeing as it goes up a little, half the time you scroll down. But typing is probably the biggest thing for me, since I text a decent amount. I even installed the same GB keyboard I'd used on gingerbread roms (it's a modified stock gb keyboard called "gingerbread keyboard") which I had been able to type so quick and so accuretly with (except for the occasional double letter that the keyboard puts in), but on ICS it was just as inaccurate as any other crap keyboard I'd try out. You just have to type slowwwww, and press hard. Who the hell wants to use their phone like an old person? I sure don't. ICS makes my phone a chore to use.
I'm looking to get some other impressions here, and from both sides (mostly ICS fans, if you don't mind), and just get an overall consensus of what the deal is. I knew I'd missed GB, but I didn't realize it was this much!
Things I'd be missing from ICS: brightness minimum and maximum (having a lower min is really appreciated in my room at night - some later GB roms have this implemented though), the updated Gallery (soo much better on ICS), some features that are nice to have but I don't really change anyway (screen mode, gamma sensitivity, etc.), Chome (LOL jk, chrome sucks **** on mobile), better default video player, having my phone say 4.03, 4.04, or 4.1.1 that's about it. Lemme know some other things you'd miss from ICS if you were to revert back.
Also, I have tried most roms for ICS, ranging from AOKP, AOSP based roms, CM9, Sammywiz ones, MIUI variations. Just for reference, I've tried Shishir, Ressurection AOKP, Foxhound's roms, Basically all of Kaffee's roms, cMIUI, RGUI, AdyScorp's V4, AOKP official, Rootbox, etc. My favorite of those personally was probably Ressurection, and cMIUI. Not a huge fan of AOKP (or the wole CM interface), so cMIUI a bit more.
Btw, the GB rom I'm referring to is AdyScorpius' MIUI GB. Fastest rom I've ever used, period. Battery life from what I remember was not even that good (I mean it's MIUI) even compared to other MIUI's. So considering that I'm noticing it to be on par, if not better than ICS I was running, is noteworthy.
Lay your comments down below.
EDIT: Oh and I've tried a few JB roms already, including CM10, Kaffee's CM10, and X-treme's CM10 based rom. To be honest it's really smooth (coming from ICS though), however it's wayyy too early in the game to compare it to GB for me. To be quite honest, it's really smooth and relatively fast, but since it's still based on ICS, I doubt it will ever feel as good as GB.

I do agree but i got used to ICS and the little problems bundled with it. When samsung decides to update our phones to JB, i hope it'll be a different story
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VanillaCracker said:
So after having been running ICS roms for the past 2 months or so, I decided to switch back to my favorite Gingerbread rom for the hell of it, to see exactly what I'd been giving up for ICS. And WOW, was I blown away. [...] I'm looking to get some other impressions here, and from both sides (mostly ICS fans, if you don't mind), and just get an overall consensus of what the deal is. I knew I'd missed GB, but I didn't realize it was this much!
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Well, I'm not an pure ICS fan - both versions have their advantages - but I like CM, AOSP and MIUI - and Samsungs camera app. As almost everything here at XDA and other boards is about ICS and now JB I have not expected someone coming up with a thread like this, thanks
I must admit reverting to a 2.6.9 GB MIUI (external link to Fluxi's MIUI GB thread) quite often, too - It somehow just "feels" better than any ICS ROM I tried so far (only 2 months \w I9100, i9000 before, always working on kernels) - touch sensitivity and wakeup lag definately are two reasons for me, too. Battery seems to be almost equal to me.
I'm still looking for "the" firmware, currently testing MIUI 2.7.27 which seems to work quite well, too. But I have a feeling that I'll switch back to GB tonight...
Read in another thread you posted that the WIUI dev might update the GB version, may I ask where you have that information from? Interesting.

Gingerbread was far better than ICS from a raw performance standpoint, i was 100 and 1% happy with the way my phone performed with GB and then i flashed to ICS and got used to extra features (and im the kind of person that doesn't like to be behind the curve).
If google had ported all of the new functionality to GB along with some of the work they did with project butter we would have a MUCH MUCH better platform than we are currently stuck with.
Having a device that doesn't respond the way you would expect to touch input and has noticeable jank and lag in this day and age is NOT acceptable when you have the likes WP7 and iOS out there.
Time is running out Google (& to a degree Samsung) , I've been an Android user since the G1 and 3 devices on my patience is growing short.

We already had these kind of threads before

i will downgrade to 2.3.3 if there isn't a newer 2.3.x of Nee which i believe there is but i ain't finding them
i downgrading due to lockscreen stopped work on Stock ICS but it seems to be working on gingerbread

The only reason why I am on ics is that I can not connect to my college's wifi network... On ics wifi works fine...
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I downgraded from ics back to GB 2.3.4 due to ics bugs, lag on the touch screen (sometimes felt like a resistive screen) jerky swipes between home screens, black screen of death, random shut down and disappearing widgets. Like the op says, GB was a revelation again and the galaxy feels reliable, responsive and fast again. I'm staying put now till next year when my contact ends, I came from iPhone to android and maybe it will be wp8 next, or maybe a galaxy s3.....
I miss the face unlock, swipe to dismiss notifications and the task manager of ics, that's about all
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ephraim033 said:
I do agree but i got used to ICS and the little problems bundled with it. When samsung decides to update our phones to JB, i hope it'll be a different story
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I'm hoping the same thing man haha. But honestly I'm not having my hopes up anymore. I know that the CM10 preview builds don't have HW Accelerator working, and that the sensitivity does seem a bit better than ICS (more in the 'ok-eh' category instead of 'bad' like ICS), but I've seen a couple builds that claim to have HW Acceleration working, so if that makes a drastic improvement we'll see. Honestly I thought when ICS came out that it was just early in developemnt and that they'd work out the jags and stuff....yeah no. It's 3 months later and performance-wise it's relatively similar. AOKP has gotten much smoother though, but there's only so much you can do.
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Well, I'm not an pure ICS fan - both versions have their advantages - but I like CM, AOSP and MIUI - and Samsungs camera app. As almost everything here at XDA and other boards is about ICS and now JB I have not expected someone coming up with a thread like this, thanks
I must admit reverting to a 2.6.9 GB MIUI (external link to Fluxi's MIUI GB thread) quite often, too - It somehow just "feels" better than any ICS ROM I tried so far (only 2 months \w I9100, i9000 before, always working on kernels) - touch sensitivity and wakeup lag definately are two reasons for me, too. Battery seems to be almost equal to me.
I'm still looking for "the" firmware, currently testing MIUI 2.7.27 which seems to work quite well, too. But I have a feeling that I'll switch back to GB tonight...
Read in another thread you posted that the WIUI dev might update the GB version, may I ask where you have that information from? Interesting.
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I really appreciate your comments, especially coming from someone who has experience with kernels, it gives the whole discussion a little more validity. Wake lag is definitely annoying, honestly that's one of those things that by itself, you would think could be dismissed, but when added to the touch sensitivty, and sluggishness, just makes you think..what the hell.
Btw I was actually looking at WIUI last night by chance and also saw that he actually is updating his GB version. I had to re-read it a few times to make sure I wasn't mistaken. He's got a 6.29 version out, and in the comments he said he would do 8.4 (around there). I'll probably flash that, as my April GB rom is probably really outdated....hah.
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Gingerbread was far better than ICS from a raw performance standpoint, i was 100 and 1% happy with the way my phone performed with GB and then i flashed to ICS and got used to extra features (and im the kind of person that doesn't like to be behind the curve).
If google had ported all of the new functionality to GB along with some of the work they did with project butter we would have a MUCH MUCH better platform than we are currently stuck with.
Having a device that doesn't respond the way you would expect to touch input and has noticeable jank and lag in this day and age is NOT acceptable when you have the likes WP7 and iOS out there.
Time is running out Google (& to a degree Samsung) , I've been an Android user since the G1 and 3 devices on my patience is growing short.
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I agree with you that it probably would have made a lot more people happy had they stuck with a thoroughly upgraded GB instead of making a new platform. However although ICS sucks performance-wise (interface, anyway), it is actually pretty good in terms of efficiency. If you notice while restoring text messages or installing something via titanium backup, or shutting off your phone, things run quicker on ICS. ICS is more efficient, for sure. Which is why I hate even more how it is, because it has potential but for some reason still just completely sucks.
I'm gonna have to rant on google: *these are new thoughts just realized a minute ago* Google is definitely behind the ball in terms of what they're releasing. Google has always been out of touch with the people[/B. I'm only 20 but I was able to pick this up over the last couple years. They suck at knowing what people want, or at least are too hung up with their own projections that they don't see the people in which they're serving. You can tell google doesn't know what they're doing because you see it in everything they do. Example 1) Changing Android Market to Google Play Store. Obviously, there are plenty of reasons for them to do that (main probably being to get their name out - not everyone knows android is google based, and also to put all their apps into one [google music, google books, ect]), but they could have done that without changing the name to something EVERYONE HATES. Example 2) Google chrome (desktop). I use Chrome on my home PC. It's really fast. Other than that, I hate everything about it. The interface is styled, but looks like it was organized by an amateur, and is poorly structured. Functinoality is splintered and not well thought out. Firefox beats it in every single category, except for performance. Wish I could go back to firefox. Example 3) Chrome (Mobile), this app is unstable, and probably the slowest browser on the market...and yet it is the only video playing browser available on JB (no flash anymore)... Firefox BETA is 300% more stable than chrome's Non Beta app.
GB was fine, but ICS's regression is total bull (and I'm not talking to official update - samsung), and honestly as mentioned above it is just debasing them for the future. Honestly, I had an itouch for a couple years, and have used countless friends iphones over the years, so I know what it's like. Just the simple fact that going back to MIUI GB has made me the happiest I've been in a while...is saying something. I hate to be the ass who brings up negative things, but if they had been doing things right in the first place, things wouldn't have to be mentioned. I'm not too picky, but I do demand quality. Although I've never even considered it in the past, I'm looking forward to seeing what they're rolling out for the iphone 5, cus it may actually make a difference in my next phone.
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We already had these kind of threads before
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I saw one, but it does not discuss the same thing..it meerly has the same subject. This thread heads in a much different direction, also the former post is outdated with the progression of ICS currently.
LastStandingDroid said:
i will downgrade to 2.3.3 if there isn't a newer 2.3.x of Nee which i believe there is but i ain't finding them
i downgrading due to lockscreen stopped work on Stock ICS but it seems to be working on gingerbread
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You may find one! I know finding official releases past 4.x.x is hard. WIUI is pulling from somewhere though, I know that. Could be it's all just his own input.
Dark Emotion said:
The only reason why I am on ics is that I can not connect to my college's wifi network... On ics wifi works fine...
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I know ICS has better range for WIFI, other than that I don't know the actual differences.
*Sorry for long post*

It is not the range, it is wpa2 thing...
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Oh no!! This thread is killing me for going back to Gb. Damn damn damn....
Sliding answering options, fantastic lockscreen, system wide font synchronization, what more I am missing....God knows....!!

i never use GB on my phone it came with ICS out of box but i want to try it, stock and custom just wanna see how different it is performance wise.

ithehappy said:
Oh no!! This thread is killing me for going back to Gb. Damn damn damn....
Sliding answering options, fantastic lockscreen, system wide font synchronization, what more I am missing....God knows....!!
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Lol I hope you're not trolling. Honestly I doubt GB has much of anything that ICS doesn't have. Except ICS option menu is dumb (although samsung's gb is RETARDED), and GB has more simple, intuitive button layout (delete, menu key layout, etc.)
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i never use GB on my phone it came with ICS out of box but i want to try it, stock and custom just wanna see how different it is performance wise.
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Yeah I mean if you haven't rooted yet you're definitely missing out on like 50+ roms to try. There's plenty of different categories and types. You'll probably be amazed when you flash one of the latest (or last) GB build roms. They're blazing. Ady MIUI is like iOS on steroids. Cept the battery is meh. That's the only problem. And of course GB seems outdated now, but it's still got higher usability, imo. Part of what kills ICS is it takes so much longer for you to do things on your phone. I bet it drives up screen on time

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Lol I hope you're not trolling.
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Whatever I do, I'll never troll.

after brick my phone with the so called chip bug and change the mb after paying 100 with the same chip with a bug, flashing XWLPO and then XWLPT I decided to go back to 2.3.4. My battery last +2 days (everything disabled and underclocked) and everything looks smooth enogh for me. If you want a cool interface like ICS has (I see no reason at all to run ICS other than the interface) just install the free version of Go Launcher

Yeah I mean if you haven't rooted yet you're definitely missing out on like 50+ roms to try. There's plenty of different categories and types. You'll probably be amazed when you flash one of the latest (or last) GB build roms. They're blazing. Ady MIUI is like iOS on steroids. Cept the battery is meh. That's the only problem. And of course GB seems outdated now, but it's still got higher usability, imo. Part of what kills ICS is it takes so much longer for you to do things on your phone. I bet it drives up screen on time
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no my phone is rooted and i already flashed custom roms for more then 10 times( all ics expect 2 latest build of cmx) not a big fan of ios looks but im looking forward to try out other gb roms, but im keep coming back to stock based roms just b'coz of camera and that is wht i really want to see in stock gb : camera
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ithehappy said:
Whatever I do, I'll never troll.
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Good to hear it :good:
heavens dragon said:
no my phone is rooted and i already flashed custom roms for more then 10 times( all ics expect 2 latest build of cmx) not a big fan of ios looks but im looking forward to try out other gb roms, but im keep coming back to stock based roms just b'coz of camera and that is wht i really want to see in stock gb : camera
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Oh I gotcha. Yeah honestly stock camera blows all the other cameras away. Stock ICS camera is pretty decent too, but the button on stock gb is the best. feels more secure, and focus is instantaneous with press. MIUI (GB) is decent too except I found the quality a little worse and instant focus a little less accurate. Anti-shake is terrible on MIUI camera too.

Wow GB. Amazing memories .I think the best GB was XXKI4. But what can I know... I had GB for 2 or 3 months since this year's winter and then Boom! Boot loop. You know why guys?? I had brand XWKI4 and there were battery mods for XXKI4.So I flashed those ;p. And then came XXLPS.Now I am on LQ7 but It's not the same. Thanks bro I was waiting for man wich will lead me to GB. BTW first rom for SGS2 is XWKDD so?! Coman guys we have Gingerbread to flash
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can someone link the "best" (in his eyes) gb roms ?
i would love to try a few if they are really faster than ics (smoother).
was so close to try cm10 but so much stuff needs to be fixed...
for me the most important thing would be cam and a smooth feeling.
and can i use nova launcher prime on gb (is it looking the same?)
i never tried gb (my s2 came with ics, so....)

I haven't used GB since I got my S2, but I used it exclusively on my original S. When I moved from phone to phone I found the speed increase of GB on an S to ICS on my S2 simply mind blowing. I know it's nearly a 200% processor boost, but still. Now I'm using JellyBean. I get a full day of near constant use with an extended battery. (I'm a teen, we text all the time, so it gets a pretty heavy workout.) and the speed BLOWS AWAY Gingerbread and ICS without question.
So no, I don't miss it personally. And I'm using SwiftKey, which is an absolute dream. Way better than any stock kb I've ever used.
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