[Q] HTC Desire Z Stock Apps and ROM Questions - G2 and Desire Z General

Hi im new to android but have rooted my phone and installed the Stock HTC rom IE no Carrier bloat ware only thing is there are so many apps on my phone that i dont use and never will IE twitter facebook,peep,stocks,quickoffice,talk(dosent work in canada) amazon mp3 etc now what i was wondering was is there either a way to delete these apps (i have already tryed with titanium backup and chuck norris mode they just come back on reboot) or is there a Vanilla 2.2 Rom out there with the Sense user interface or even vanilla android 2.2 period i would prefer a way just to get rid of the apps then going through the root s-off and have to overclock it again many thanks in advance sorry for the noobishness also keep in mind this is the desire z not g2
Carrier:Bell
Phone:HTC Desire Z

Titanium back up has always worked for me.you can always find other apps to do that for you, however, you may want to try different roms ,if you want sense interface ,you could always try virtouos rom
but it will come with all the apps that you said you dont want like twitter and facebook, etc....
i would recommend CM 6.1.1,(vanilla android) it is android 2.2 and widely knows as the most stable rom in this forum ,and it comes with oc kernel built in , and just to let you know, you don't need to root and s-off every time you change your rom
also you could try CM7 nighties ,that is android 2.3 and it could be run as a every day rom even though the stable version is not out yet.
you could try different roms set them the way you like it and take a back up so you can always go back.

Titanium has worked for most, but not all apps I've removed in the past (some of the Bell bloatware on that version of the Desire Z). Absolute System Root Tool is a paid app that has worked for me when Titanium did not, and there are other methods also, I'm sure.
Be careful, as some applications you mentioned are pretty integral to Sense (particularly Facebook and Stocks), and might break some things if you remove them. I would definitely backup the ROM before trying to delete them, if you are not already.

Maybe a stupid question but have you got S-off?
For some reason when you restart it checks wich software is installed and that's is something the S-off does....

Yes, I have S-Off.
Now, If I can ask a stupid question, what procedure did you use to debrand your Z, and which official ROM did you use? I haven't kept up recently, but when I first got my Z in December, debranding to the stock HTC ROM required making a gold card and doing some hex editing since the stock Euro ROM was older than the Bell one. It was a bit intimidating to me, and I haven't so far had a huge reason to change ROMs (the shipped ROM has been great so far, after removing the bloat). And the whole issue became a bit confusing and muddled to me, since I believe there have been more recent official ROMs released since December (which would not require the hex editing?). On the other hand, I have no real reason for staying on the Bell ROM other than laziness.

I debranded my Bell D-Z to Generic Euro 1.34 (requires full S-OFF, check the tutorial for dummies), then flashed an overclocked 1.4GHz kernel (Godspeed update)
That's all I need: a plain 2.2 with Sense (until I put my hands on 2.3 )

found a perfect guide managed to get rid of alot of stock apps i dont use ie stocks weather etc and i learned how to use cmd line also titanium backup never worked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809231

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HTC Dream (Rogers) - How to go back to stock?

Hey guys,
I recently rooted and flashed my Dream to run CM6, but I'm very unhappy with the delays and lag I get trying to running Adroid 2.2 on this old phone.
I wanted to go back to the stock Android, 1.5 or 1.6, can't even remember.
Just wondering if anyone had a tutorial on how to do this?
Thanks in advance
May I recommend to try something before going back to the stock rogers firmware.
Try the release of the stock mt3g firmware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8676013&postcount=1
(Remember the ebi1 portfile)
There are also various roms based on asop (Google's stock) 1.6 with root that you may find better than rogers stock.
Also firmwares like biffmod try to make cm6 more efficient with a good amount of success.
Otherwise if nothing works out you just reflash the e911 update http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...Branded_EBI1_Dreams#Returning_to_Stock_Rogers
Also consider trying Super D. Its a Donut ROM that has many nice features and it is very fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613809
An update may be comming once it reaches 1 million views!
EBI1 Port:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8663984&postcount=996
EBI1 Ram Hack Port:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645411
(incase you don't know, this will give your phone more RAM by taking some memory away from the graphics. So don't use this if you use graphically intensive apps such as games.)
Also try playing around with swap (compcache too but turning that off has always been best for me) to try to get the best settings for you. Super D is pretty fast so the best setting might just be completely off. YMMV.
ezterry said:
May I recommend to try something before going back to the stock rogers firmware.
Try the release of the stock mt3g firmware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8676013&postcount=1
(Remember the ebi1 portfile)
There are also various roms based on asop (Google's stock) 1.6 with root that you may find better than rogers stock.
Also firmwares like biffmod try to make cm6 more efficient with a good amount of success.
Otherwise if nothing works out you just reflash the e911 update http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...Branded_EBI1_Dreams#Returning_to_Stock_Rogers
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I'm having troubles restoring the stock rogers ROM. I'm not sure how to flash the nbh file through fastboot. I tried downloading fastboot.exe to my pc but now an error pops up saying that AdbWinApi.dll is missing.. Please help?
Thanks!
check out the stickies
I figured it out... returned to stock yesterday.. re rooted but this time made a backup of my stock rom... foolish me..........forgot to do it last time

[Q] A little help needed

you'll have to forgive if this is posted elsewhere but i haven't found it if it is, I'm new to this scene as i used to be used to the old apple stuff where i was quite happy jailbreaking etc. but now i have a nexus s and i'm quite happy with it and i've updated it to 2.3.3 no problems,
but now i'm a little confused/unsure. I am happy with the stock firmware but i'd like diffrent themes having looked around i see that to install them i need to install the CM7 rom but I've seen various roms some that need rooting and some that seem not to.
I've also seen a 2.3.3 rom thats a stock deodexed rom and a deodexed-voodoo-root rom. But whats the diffrence and which do i need etc.
sorry to sound like a complete idiot but this is all new to me and i'm trying to learn and get the best out of my phone, all advice is welcome
First off, all 3rd party ROMs will require root to "flash" (the android term for installing). You'll find a lot of information about all the ROMs, themes and kernels currently available for the NS here but the short answer to your question is that a deodexed rom is one which can be themed. If it has Voodoo, Netarchy, Trinity, or Honity listed what is being referred to is a custom kernel.
I'm also assuming you're not currently rooted and on that previous link you'll find a list of almost all of the rooting methods currently available (save for SuperBoot...I think I omitted that one by accident). Basically, all of the info you need is on that thread and if you have other questions I'm happy to help you but for now I think I've answered most everything.

My experience rooting and flashing my Desire HD

First off, this is my first post here, so hi everyone. After a few months with my unrooted Desire HD, I decided to root. I was hesitant mainly due to how complex the process was. I am with telus, which means I had to downgrade to a rootable firmware version (the Telus one isn't rootable for some reason). I needed to install a gold card for this. After this, I temp rooted and permanently rooted successfully. My first custom ROM is MIUI (freshly squeezed edition). I find it to be very fluid and fast and is definetly good looking. Its nice to see a ROM based on something other than stock Android or Sense. The software build that comes with this ROM (2.3.4) is also very fast, a huge step up from the laggy 2.2.1 software that Telus shipped with it.
Again, I am new and know very little about rooting and development in general, buy I plan to be using custom ROMs very often and I thought this site would be a good place to give feedback on custom ROMs. (I noticed you need at least 10 posts to access the developers forum).
The only problem I have with MIUI is that the messaging app constantly force closes.
Welcome ..
the 10 post limit is a bummer .. but you'll get there ..
Rom paradise will open soon ..
bellerophon90 said:
First off, this is my first post here, so hi everyone. After a few months with my unrooted Desire HD, I decided to root. I was hesitant mainly due to how complex the process was. I am with telus, which means I had to downgrade to a rootable firmware version (the Telus one isn't rootable for some reason). I needed to install a gold card for this. After this, I temp rooted and permanently rooted successfully. My first custom ROM is MIUI (freshly squeezed edition). I find it to be very fluid and fast and is definetly good looking. Its nice to see a ROM based on something other than stock Android or Sense. The software build that comes with this ROM (2.3.4) is also very fast, a huge step up from the laggy 2.2.1 software that Telus shipped with it.
Again, I am new and know very little about rooting and development in general, buy I plan to be using custom ROMs very often and I thought this site would be a good place to give feedback on custom ROMs. (I noticed you need at least 10 posts to access the developers forum).
The only problem I have with MIUI is that the messaging app constantly force closes.
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Finding out what ROM was installed

Hey
I used to have a nice ROM installed with a kernel that allowed overclocking. I would run my shift at 1.5Ghz and was really happy. Then when Gingerbread was coming out, I decided to flash a Gingerbread ROM because I was just excited for 2.3
Now there were not kernels for Gingerbread ROMs at that time. So formatted/wiped everything from my device using Clockwork Recovery. Now here's where I have a few questions:
After I wiped the entire device, when my phone booted, it seemed to have 2.3 installed so I assumed that since there was an OTA update for Gingerbread, it must have gotten updated somehow. I want to find out whether I have a custom ROM with 2.3 installed or is it a regular Gingerbread stock ROM that's on my device?
I would like to find out what kind of ROM is installed on my device right now and do whatever it takes to be able to flash a kernel that allows overclocking, because going back to 800Mhz from 1500Mhz is just not doing it.
I would also really appreciate if someone gave me direct links to a custom ROM (since I understand at this time it is impossible to flash an overclocked kernel, since HTC has not released official Gingerbread source code yet) with a flashable kernel that's completely stable and allows overclocking to 1.5Ghz.
I really don't care about the whole Cynaogen Mod etc, because I use LauncherPro anyway and from what I understood when I was reading about Cyanogen Mod, it doesn't change THAT much other than adding a little bit more functionality and mainly focusing on changing the phone interface, which is completely irrelevant to me.
Thank you in advance.
sajmonides said:
Hey
I used to have a nice ROM installed with a kernel that allowed overclocking. I would run my shift at 1.5Ghz and was really happy. Then when Gingerbread was coming out, I decided to flash a Gingerbread ROM because I was just excited for 2.3
Now there were not kernels for Gingerbread ROMs at that time. So formatted/wiped everything from my device using Clockwork Recovery. Now here's where I have a few questions:
After I wiped the entire device, when my phone booted, it seemed to have 2.3 installed so I assumed that since there was an OTA update for Gingerbread, it must have gotten updated somehow. I want to find out whether I have a custom ROM with 2.3 installed or is it a regular Gingerbread stock ROM that's on my device?
I would like to find out what kind of ROM is installed on my device right now and do whatever it takes to be able to flash a kernel that allows overclocking, because going back to 800Mhz from 1500Mhz is just not doing it.
I would also really appreciate if someone gave me direct links to a custom ROM (since I understand at this time it is impossible to flash an overclocked kernel, since HTC has not released official Gingerbread source code yet) with a flashable kernel that's completely stable and allows overclocking to 1.5Ghz.
I really don't care about the whole Cynaogen Mod etc, because I use LauncherPro anyway and from what I understood when I was reading about Cyanogen Mod, it doesn't change THAT much other than adding a little bit more functionality and mainly focusing on changing the phone interface, which is completely irrelevant to me.
Thank you in advance.
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If you just did a wipe and didn't flash anything, your still running the same ROM as you were before the wipe. If you go into setting > about phone > software information > more, this will tell you your current ROM (build version). If you would like to continue using Sense but want to overclock I would suggest MikShift 1.1, otherwise I would suggest the Shift Deck ROM. Both can be overclocked with several different kernels, just do a little reading through the dev section to see what best suites you.
Disregard, just typed what crump said but he beat me to it!

SD partition benefits? Which recovery to use?

So I've been using my hero for a good 3-4 years and its been rooted and I've tried a variety of roms up to and including the ICS ones more recently. So I guess this thread is really me asking much more experienced people what roms, settings etc to use. I've tried Elelinux which was great for a long time but recently it seemed to not respond to my input so well and other roms don't seem as stable or quick generally.
But throughout my time using different roms etc i've heard about SD Card Partitions but I've never actually done it and I'm wondering 1) how and 2) why? what benefits do you actually get from doing it?
Another question I have is the recovery when you're flashing a new rom etc - I have one I downloaded from these forums a few years ago after I first rooted my phone and I've never thought to see if there was a different version or different features. I heard that there is a version 5 of Clockwordmod I'm wondering if its better than the RA-hero 1.7.0.1 I currently have. Another question I have is, if I do flash a new recovery will I lose my current backups?
Finally, I'm interested in finding out which is a quick, stable rom that will be good for daily use. I've tried MIUI and an early version of SCHPONGLE if that's the current name, by 1cebox and they're quick roms but not quite stable enough for long term use. I don't mind what version it runs as long as it can run Google Maps, Youtube, Sony Remote and IMDB apps.
Any advice?
The answer to why partitioning an sd card is here. I have done it and it really helps my little Hero since it doesn't have much ram. Instructions on how you can partition the sd are using Amon RA are here.
Flashing a new recovery (like the last Clockwordmod available on Hero) does not erases your backups, i know that by personal experience
Clockworkmod has the ability to allow you to browse the directories for zip installing instead of having the zip files only on the root dir. It also can install zip files even if there are not signed properly. The only problem i had (with the last version) is that it doesn't support old upgrade scripts but i can live with this "bug". To me, Clockworkmod vs Amon RA is just a matter of personal taste.
If your main language is English (which is not my case ), i suggest you the SCHPONGLE Rom which is really fast and well done. Everything works just fine there as 1ceb0x made a great job !
I am actually using the Elelinux-7.2-Hero-v3.9 which i can have in Italian and has everything working well enough. I am expecting the fix of GPS and pinch-to-zoom bugs in [ICS 4.0.4] AOKP [Team Legacy] rom because after testing the CM9 made by jordfaz, for fore than 2 weeks, all i can cay that it's fast (really fast !) and that i turned back to Elelinux-7.2-Hero-v3.9 only because i miss GPS.
Have a nice day
Muessig said:
So I've been using my hero for a good 3-4 years and its been rooted and I've tried a variety of roms up to and including the ICS ones more recently. So I guess this thread is really me asking much more experienced people what roms, settings etc to use. I've tried Elelinux which was great for a long time but recently it seemed to not respond to my input so well and other roms don't seem as stable or quick generally.
But throughout my time using different roms etc i've heard about SD Card Partitions but I've never actually done it and I'm wondering 1) how and 2) why? what benefits do you actually get from doing it?
Another question I have is the recovery when you're flashing a new rom etc - I have one I downloaded from these forums a few years ago after I first rooted my phone and I've never thought to see if there was a different version or different features. I heard that there is a version 5 of Clockwordmod I'm wondering if its better than the RA-hero 1.7.0.1 I currently have. Another question I have is, if I do flash a new recovery will I lose my current backups?
Finally, I'm interested in finding out which is a quick, stable rom that will be good for daily use. I've tried MIUI and an early version of SCHPONGLE if that's the current name, by 1cebox and they're quick roms but not quite stable enough for long term use. I don't mind what version it runs as long as it can run Google Maps, Youtube, Sony Remote and IMDB apps.
Any advice?
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