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X10 Battery solution, Helix Launcher

The Helix launcher, the solution to the problems with the battery of the X10.
I think the main problem of the X10's battery consumption is the original launcher, which should have a process that stays resident and eats the battery.
With the Helix launcher, I managed to go from 12/14 hours of battery life up to 36 hours!

is that with your wifi on?

dude, what version of it are you using?

where can I found Helix Launcher for X10?
http://anonym.to/?http://helixproject.ruqqq.sg/
The bottom one?

Correct you want HelixLauncherDonut.
I'm trying it now, I can get about 16 hours with moderate use on standard Home.

CompactDstrxion said:
Correct you want HelixLauncherDonut.
I'm trying it now, I can get about 16 hours with moderate use on standard Home.
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okay, i'll check it...

with my BT & WIFI off, the battery went down to 40% from 100% in 7 hours over night (IM+ was running). it's really bad!!!
my Blackberry 9700 with all IMs, weahter app, emails sync... uses only less than 8% over night.

proatiku said:
dude, what version of it are you using?
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HelixLauncherDONUT_1.2.apk
Best Regards

I debranded my fone to R1fa016 hoping to address the battery problem.. it started hopeful but went downhill after..
My standard usage waz switchin 3g on when needed, wifi at home here and there, bluetooth off, gps off unless needed and it used to last only like 10-13hrz.
However i saw option on wifi settings to never sleep and after seein mixed reviews online i thought id try it and i must say im really impressed..
Yesterday, i used 3g for bout an hr, a few quick callz, some msgz, about 2hrz of listenin to music and random phone usage from 11.30am to around half 1 in mornin today and battery waz around 70%.. then used wifi after for about hr n half and i happen to knock off cause i waz tired so wifi waz stil runnin til 11.30am and ma battery was at 45%.
I dnt like low battery so i charged it extra 20minz before I went work which brought battery life upto 62%. Today ive used about 2hrz of 3g, 3hrz of music, alot of callz n msgz and writing this long ass essay lolz and im down to 7%
Im happy with my new battery life.. and sorry 4 the boring essay but hope it helps!
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ill give it a try, im charging twice everyday!
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Battery update, 2 hours standby, 99%

what exactly is this app, where do i configure its settings? does it run on top of my other home screen?

It's an alternative home app with more features. Download the donut version from http://anonym.to/?http://helixproject.ruqqq.sg/, install and then when you press home choose Helix. Ideally set as default then reset the phone to make sure you have the default home unloaded.

cool, I've played around with it, pretty neat, will it really help battery life if i put more home screens and running widgets?

robbyf66 said:
cool, I've played around with it, pretty neat, will it really help battery life if i put more home screens and running widgets?
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It could do. The theory is the default home is bugged and drains battery. If Helix works better then it should use virtually no CPU when idle. A buggy widget could drain battery just as easily, but if you use more homescreens then the only difference should be in RAM usage I think.

guys, how to I get it onto my x10?

Legit Scammer said:
guys, how to I get it onto my x10?
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Download the application from here: Helix Launcher Donut 1.2, Put it anywhere on your sd card. Download a program such as astro that can install .apk files. Open astro, find the helix launcher in it and tap it. Select install.

this is really saving my battery, very little battery drain after 8 hours!
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Whats the difference between HL Donut and HL 2.0? Why are people saying to get Donut?

guys..scroll down to the bottom of the page for donut version
brb...observing improvements on battery life

[Q] Help me to choose BETTER Battery Saver APP. :)

I bought my Xperia X10 last August 18 '10. I didn't have the initial charge that is 4 hours because X10 charging have automatic stop when the battery is full.
I charged it in the morning and it run for 24 hours just SMS and phone calls.
Then I try to install Advance Task killer and Helix Launcher. Task killer really makes my battery WORST! Instead of 24 hours life it became almost 12 hours only.. Helix is most probably not working. (I think.)
I uninstalled Advanced Task killer and no difference..
I would like to install Battery Life saver application but I don't know what Launcher fits best. I tried Helix but I think I doesn;t work better for my X10.
I envy other users that there phone last for 2-3 days. I want my phone just like that..
Any suggestions what launcher or application? and where can I download it for free?
Thank you so much XDA DEVELOPERS!

wat firmware version are u on ? i found that it took 15-20 full charges for the battery to really break in...as well dont use task killers, they arent necessary. I used juicedefender for a bit, but didnt really see a difference. another helpful thing you should try is to restart your phone after charging
another app you could try is setcpu, however that requires root

Try adw launcher
Sent from my rooted 026 X10i using swype via Xda

My suggestion is root the phone, use ADW launcher and uninstall any task killer apps like ATK or JD. My X10 lasts 2 days with moderate usage, that includes games and music too. It'll last three if I only use it for texting and calling. Hope this helps

Agreed, ditch the "powersaving" apps, they kill standby time. Also check how synchronisation is set up, constantly waking up to update facebook, twitter, mail et cetera will kill your battery.

Can only agree with the other posts, and just to re-affirm that you need to cycle the battery a good few times to get the best from it and three days is still early days. ADW is a great launcher, you don't need to be rooted if that's out of your comfort zone.

My way is NOT using any task killers or battery savers, leave all that to android! Do 3 full charge/decharge cycles and one every ones in a while. And ofc 2-3h of youtube will drain your battery.
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quite interesting point about task killing app.
I heard in both side while app-killing save a batt and drain a batt.
May be people are in difference behavior. and their using s/w is also difference.
Any specific thread for this?
My first (few) days for x10 is like you, twice or triple charge a day, I even bought spare batt. I decided to root and upgrade to the lastest firmware, clean all startup app, clean all scheduled sync and turn on juicedefender with new home-app. that was big improve from 7-10HR to 20-25HR with moderate use.
You should give a try

Retracted: I misread the post mentioning JuiceDefender as being about ATK. My bad.

I currently only use juice defender, seems to do the trick. Task killers made no difference to me.
Research how android works and you will see task killers are pointless. Just stop things doing automatic updating instead.
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zhoustanley said:
wat firmware version are u on ? i found that it took 15-20 full charges for the battery to really break in...as well dont use task killers, they arent necessary. I used juicedefender for a bit, but didnt really see a difference. another helpful thing you should try is to restart your phone after charging
another app you could try is setcpu, however that requires root
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Firmware version 1.6.. I uninstall already Task killer and Helix Launcher, both no help. It makes my battery worst. How many days you used your phone after full charge?

Mobzter said:
Try adw launcher
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I can't find free download.. Did it helps a lot?

junkk29 said:
My suggestion is root the phone, use ADW launcher and uninstall any task killer apps like ATK or JD. My X10 lasts 2 days with moderate usage, that includes games and music too. It'll last three if I only use it for texting and calling. Hope this helps
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How can I root the phone? where can I download ADW Launcher for free? Whew I hope my X10 will be better like yours

i get about 20 hours of fairly heavy usage before charge however i am on build number R2BA020, running helix launcher and setcpu (screen off @ 524mhz scaling on demand)
my approx usage a day:
50 texts
10 emails
hour on phone calls
wifi usually connected
gps off
update interval usually the longest duration
30-45mins of web browsing

@ ddewbofh : Where can I find it? Sorry for the stupid question. I'm starting to learn for now.
@ suzed : I already downloaded ADW Launcher, does it really have automatic task manager? If I use it, it will affect my battery or not?
@ Tjotte : I want battery saver because I can't bring my charger always. I already had 3 cycles of full charge/decharge, still no change.
@ Cebees : How will i root and upgrade the firmware? Can I do it all by myself? Do I have to reformat my X10?
Thanks for the replies! It really helps me a lot. I'm still observing how ADW Launcher works for me. Hope for your comments and suggestions again (sorry for the poor english)

I want to clarify something. Is ADW Launcher a battery saver or just for themes? My friends says it's not a battery saver. I want to know, I'm confused.

chiqamia0122 said:
I want to clarify something. Is ADW Launcher a battery saver or just for themes? My friends says it's not a battery saver. I want to know, I'm confused.
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It's a great launcher with themes, it's not specifically designed to save battery.

Is it okay for my X10 to Full charge/decharge while using ADW Launcer?

chiqamia0122 said:
Is it okay for my X10 to Full charge/decharge while using ADW Launcer?
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Yeah, it's no problem. ADW is a normal app, it works the same way as the standard launcher.

ddewbofh said:
It's a great launcher with themes, it's not specifically designed to save battery.
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but it's also used for battery saving right or no help and just for themes?

Someting interesting I found about CM6 ROM...

Not sure if this is the culprit of my battery drain even if I used setCPU (with screen off profile) and/or UltimateJuice, I still get somewhat not too good battery life on CM6. So today just surfing the net and found GDE a new home screen which pretty slick, and decided to try it out. So after running GDE for a while, my batter seems to be better for some reason.
So my thought would be that ADW launcher is the culprit because after GDE, I don't use ADW anymore and when I was with ADW, batter seems bad.
Anyone can confirm this?

vboyz103 said:
Not sure if this is the culprit of my battery drain even if I used setCPU (with screen off profile) and/or UltimateJuice, I still get somewhat not too good battery life on CM6. So today just surfing the net and found GDE a new home screen which pretty slick, and decided to try it out. So after running GDE for a while, my batter seems to be better for some reason.
So my thought would be that ADW launcher is the culprit because after GDE, I don't use ADW anymore and when I was with ADW, batter seems bad.
Anyone can confirm this?
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I'd like to see the answer to this.
Although if you'd like a TRUE battery saving ROM, try Fresh's 3.2.0.0 (donators only) that is based off the HTC's latest 3.28.651.1 build along with a MUCH IMPROVED HTC kernel (BIG DIFERENCE ON BATTERY LIFE, AND MORE STABILIZED with Youtube, video recording, etc)
So as of now I'd prefer using Fresh when it comes to battery life (using ADW launcher), but when it comes to toying around...I like CM6 simply because it is SENSE-LESS.

I am getting horrid battery life on CM6 as well, seems my wifi isn't letting the phone sleep.
Had to switch to another ROM, but I really don't want to use sense...so I hope I can figure this out. After testing out a different ROM with ADW installed, I'll reload cyanogen and replace ADW with Zeam or something.

well there are ways you could test this out more. you could run a true battery test something like running a movie from 100% till it shuts down with adw and then with GDE and compare etc. I think it is a big leap to switch homes and then say adw was the cause of your battery drain without any actual test or data.
I have gotten amazing battery life using ADW and i have gotten horrible life depending on what i have running my use etc.
for those that dont want to use sense you can remove sense from your phone for the most part. while it isnt asop you dont have to use/have sense running if you remove a few apks or in Damage Control its as s imple as selecting to ban sense and rebooting

Better battery life?

Is there anyway to increase the battery life on the aria? I love it, and I love sense, but within about twelve or so hours of moderate use in the day my battery is left with roughly 20%. With cyanogenmod, the same period of time and usage, I was left at 60% battery. I know the sense launcher and Widgets play a little part of that, but even with my hero, battery life wasn't that much of a difference between vanilla and sense roms.
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I would suggest an App killer. I have yet to try cyanogen's ROM but am on Attn1's Liberated Rom. I have Bluetooth enabled all day and by the end of 12hrs it is at 25% or so. Not saying switch. I would try Advanced task killer. Have many friends using that on their EVO's and Nexuses and their battery is wayyyy better.

AkumaMax said:
I would suggest an App killer. I have yet to try cyanogen's ROM but am on Attn1's Liberated Rom. I have Bluetooth enabled all day and by the end of 12hrs it is at 25% or so. Not saying switch. I would try Advanced task killer. Have many friends using that on their EVO's and Nexuses and their battery is wayyyy better.
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I've tried all the tricks. I always have advanced task killer no matter what rom I'm running. I change thee location settings, network settings, screen brightness etc. I love htc sense but I don't want the battery life that comes with it. I know what my tricks are,i just want to see what the community had come up with.
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AkumaMax said:
I would suggest an App killer. I have yet to try cyanogen's ROM but am on Attn1's Liberated Rom. I have Bluetooth enabled all day and by the end of 12hrs it is at 25% or so. Not saying switch. I would try Advanced task killer. Have many friends using that on their EVO's and Nexuses and their battery is wayyyy better.
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I have read somewhere on the google (official google page about android stuff), using task killers does NOT improve battery life because background apps stated as "suspended" when they are in background. I dont know if I get it right. I will post link if I can find.
P.S. Couldn't find it but it was something similar with this:
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
Of course, you must take control off applications really "running" in background and preventing the phone sleep state. Not just "killing" all applications.

barisahmet said:
I have read somewhere on the google (official google page about android stuff), using task killers does NOT improve battery life because background apps stated as "suspended" when they are in background. I dont know if I get it right. I will post link if I can find.
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That is good to know, I think I've read this somewhere before.
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An update from liberated 007 to the newer 008 has given me tremendous amount of battery life back. With the cm kernel fixed I'm getting the same life that was expected out of cm 6.1
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lstat said:
An update from liberated 007 to the newer 008 has given me tremendous amount of battery life back. With the cm kernel fixed I'm getting the same life that was expected out of cm 6.1
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Mmmmm. If there's one thing that could drag me over from the standard Liberated ROM over to the Froyo ROM, it would be longer battery life.*
Perhaps I'll give it a shot this weekend.
Regards,
Corporate Dog
* I've resisted the urge to switch, only because I've heard wildly conflicting stories about how fast it runs on the Aria.

don't use task killer it will kill the app but the app will just start up again in the background cause the battery to run out. it says its in the background and that's true but its not running its idle and isn't affecting battery.
sent from my rooted cm 6.1 aria

I have to say, at stock clock it got sluggish at times, overclocked to 800 though its running absolutely great!
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You might want to try out an app called Autostarts. Just make sure you don't turn anything off you really are gonna need. Try this with advanced task killer and the apps wont load back up.

lstat said:
I've tried all the tricks. I always have advanced task killer no matter what rom I'm running. I change thee location settings, network settings, screen brightness etc. I love htc sense but I don't want the battery life that comes with it. I know what my tricks are,i just want to see what the community had come up with.
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Check that you do not have an app constantly running in the background - on my stetup, I found that the XDA app was burning 3-5% CPU time spooling in the background doing nothing. (using OSMonitor)
For what its worth, I went back to the Sense ROM (FR008) from CM6.1 because of strange battery behavior - some days dropping to 30-40% after a full day, others it would be dead by 5pm. I dont consider my self a heavy user either. I do not see a significant difference in battery life between the two ROMs, if you throw out the aberrant days that CM would go nuts on me.
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Your ROM and battery life (NS4G ONLY!)

Ok I'm having trouble finding a good combination of rom and kernel to get great battery life. I'm curious as to what you guys are running and what kind of battery life your getting.
Cm7 nighlies is only getting me 12-15 hours Max. I can kill the battery in about 2 to 3 hours with constant use. I use to get 30-35 on my epic and atleast 5 hours with constant use. This is supposed to be AOSP and bloat free. WHY I NO HAZ GOOD BATTERIES???
lol
thanks in advance doods
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Are you using a custom kernel? Is it undervolted? Are you using a battery-friendly governor?
Use darker background/themes. White/light colors mean LED's are at full power = more battery consumption.
Is your desktop littered with widgets?
Use Wifi when available.
Reduce your screen brightness.
Social media/weather/news/etc. applications set to frequently update?
Just a few things off the top of my head. I can normally go a solid day without too many issues. Sometimes at the end of the day to drain my battery down to 15%, I'll crank my brightness up and watch videos or play a game. You should try out Deck or the Oxygen ROM, which are similar to CM7 but are a little more "barebone" and seem to get better battery life.

Lol no man. Well here's what I normally run
No overclock
No undervolt because I've been running stock kernels
Backround data off
4g/3g on
Screen brightness low
Regular background
4 pages with less than 10 Widgets
Titanium back freezing unneeded apps
Same way I used to run things on my epic and I would get a sweet 30+ hours. The only difference being that I can't shut off 3g and keep 4g like with my epic. I've been trying to run roms with stock kernel because I feel they all sooner or later cause some instability in my experience.
So this is the purpose of my thread. See who gets great battery life and mimic their set up
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I honestly don't think you'll notice much difference in battery life unless you flash an undervolted kernel and/or a lean AOSP ROM. You should check out the GPA17 or GPA18 ROM by Buglesspete. It's VERY similar to stock and is reported to get excellent battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1205936

Will do sir.
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if you have titanium backup freezing apps why not just uninstall them, does the freeze actually freeze the app or does it kill when it tried to open up?
You can turn 3g and 4g off it under in the settings though uncheck mobile networks and we all know how to turn off 4g just no usefull widgets

RushAOZ said:
Will do sir.
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Hope it makes all of your battery-saving dreams come true

Best combination for me: Stock 2.3.6. + Trinity TEUV (at 880 MHz)...

I don't disable data. I use my 4g religiously
sent from my Touchwiz'd Nexus S 4g

BrianDigital said:
if you have titanium backup freezing apps why not just uninstall them, does the freeze actually freeze the app or does it kill when it tried to open up?
You can turn 3g and 4g off it under in the settings though uncheck mobile networks and we all know how to turn off 4g just no usefull widgets
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"Freezing" an app in titanium backup is basically like uninstalling it from the operating system's point of view. However, from the app's point of view it never knew it was "uninstalled." So when you thaw it, the app retains all data and information.

RushAOZ said:
I don't disable data. I use my 4g religiously
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Same here. Thanks for starting this thread Rush. I am curious about what everyone is running as well
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The best combo I've found (so far) for battery life is Pete's GPA18 and the matr1x UV kernel. I run mine at 800mhz with the LAZY governor and the system is plenty responsive, yet still easy on the battery.

method2madness said:
The best combo I've found (so far) for battery life is Pete's GPA18 and the matr1x UV kernel. I run mine at 800mhz with the LAZY governor and the system is plenty responsive, yet still easy on the battery.
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Lazy eh? I'm trying the same combo now but I'm using smartassv2. Ill report in with my results lol
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RushAOZ said:
I don't disable data. I use my 4g religiously
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i disable mine. i use SwitchPro Widget and i can turn my data on and off with 1 click. so whenever i know im not gonna be using my phone i always turn it off to save battery life which really helps out alot.
running a clean Peter Alfonso (GPA18)