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Workaround to GPS problems

Hi all,
I don't know if this will help anyone but it seems to have resolved my GPS issues on the I9000 running stock JPO (with z4root and OCLF).
Prior to this workaround, my GPS was crap and I was about to give up on it. Also, it was fine when I upgraded to JPO initially and then got worse after a few days and then became totally unusable. Note that I am not on any mobile plan (just prepaid calls) so I do not have AGPS assist at all.
I saw this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6QnNMxuCig&feature=related which mentions that you can use GPSStatus to update the AGPS info on the I9000.
Not expecting much I tired the AGPS update and to my surprise my GPS is now working like a dream, I get locks within 10 seconds and the tracking now works! I tried tracking in a bus where I am seated near a window and it works 100% (it was raining hard as well). This did not work at all before. BTW, I used CoPilot for the tracking test.
So updating the AGPS does help and also might explain why my GPS worked after the JPO upgrade and then deteriorated over time.
Anyway I hope this help someone coz it worked for me

Please. Even orange has admitted the gps problem and agreed to exchange it for me...
There's no point doing this type of setting. A good gps should be working without too many complicated settings.

A-GPS is assisted GPS and uses the network to get better/faster fixes. Get out of the city and you'll find out your GPS is probably just as bad.
The Nexus S was delayed due to hardware problems. Once the hardware was fixed and the phone was passed through the FCC again guess what part was changed? The bluetooth, WIFI and GPS atennas.

Schmich said:
A-GPS is assisted GPS and uses the network to get better/faster fixes. Get out of the city and you'll find out your GPS is probably just as bad.
The Nexus S was delayed due to hardware problems. Once the hardware was fixed and the phone was passed through the FCC again guess what part was changed? The bluetooth, WIFI and GPS atennas.
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yeah i read this on engadget few days ago was about to start new thread on it glad i seen your comments first. orange do know about the gps issues but still samsung is quiet on the issue. After slagging off apple about there antenna issues i highly doubt they will ever admit to the antenna's being the sole cause of gps / wifi issues alot people are reporting. if this is not the case then why re-design new ones? samsung you dirty rats this is my last samsung phone ill ever own!.
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yeah i read this on engadget few days ago was about to start new thread on it glad i seen your comments first. orange do know about the gps issues but still samsung is quiet on the issue. After slagging off apple about there antenna issues i highly doubt they will ever admit to the antenna's being the sole cause of gps / wifi issues alot people are reporting. if this is not the case then why re-design new ones? samsung you dirty rats this is my last samsung phone ill ever own!.
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That letter would make an epic forum signature for GalaxyS owners... an all time reminder.

What exactly is this GPS problem I wonder if i have it .
jje

it takes the biscuit this forum I posted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855541 yesterday and every body said it proves nothing all I can say is thanks as it proves it can't be fixed

Strange that some work and some dont. I've used Google nav and co-pilot since August on a daily basis without ANY issues.
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Well if it's a hardware problem it can't be an issue with all Galaxy S phones. Mine seems to work pretty well even from the ground floor of my 2 story home.
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Strange that some work and some dont. I've used Google nav and co-pilot since August on a daily basis without ANY issues.
Thats why i asked what the problem was mine seems ok .
So if its a hardware problem then its either a part like aerial so why should my aerial be ok and others not . Or it could be a bad connection on the board that would be more likely as its poor GPS not across the board on all sets .
jje

Nexus S GPS does not work Please Help

I just went through a second Nexus S and the GPS does NOT lock when I am in a car. When it does lock, the accuracy is so poor that navigation is completely impossible. I have compared the GPS with my Xperia X10 and a HTC magic and both phones have a better accuracy than the Nexus S. What is going on? Please help I don't know what to do.
I am on Wind Mobile in Canada.

turn wifi on maybe will help. but ive noticed its just a week radio all around. from wifi, 4g, 3g, gps.... all week. i have a bunch of evos and droidxs to compare with...

I know this might be a stupid question, but do you have the tower assisted gps or the actual gps on?

Try other gps software like sygic or navigon
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derekwilkinson said:
I know this might be a stupid question, but do you have the tower assisted gps or the actual gps on?
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Yes I do. I have it on. The thing is when I am not moving it locks on. When I start to move in a vehicle, it will frequently lose the lock on gps. I've tried using GPS software.

Is the phone under the windshield? remember GPS requires inline sight to a satellite, so if the metal roof of your car is blocking the signal it will fade in/out.
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i often have GPS problem with satt locking too
do you guys think it might be a hardware problem in some phone series ?

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Is the phone under the windshield? remember GPS requires inline sight to a satellite, so if the metal roof of your car is blocking the signal it will fade in/out.
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I've tried everything. I tried walking and that doesn't work. This is ridiculous like I said I've compared it to my xperia and htc magic and both of them lock on in all situations. My accuraccy goes to only 30 feet. With HTC magic I get accuracy of ~6 feet. Is this normal or is this a defect?

Try the app GPS status from the market. Press menu go to tools and agps. There is an option to download latest GPS information. That should help.
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Maybe try *#*#gpsclrx#*#* from dialer to clear some conflicting info from gps data
Turn on gps before doing this

i have this bad problem too ,that bothers me so much ,since i bought my NS
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Try the app GPS status from the market. Press menu go to tools and agps. There is an option to download latest GPS information. That should help.
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do you mean "AGPS update" option through settings ?
snandlal said:
Maybe try *#*#gpsclrx#*#* from dialer to clear some conflicting info from gps data
Turn on gps before doing this
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i turned it on and tried that code but no message appears , is that true ?
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whoooooo , that was so exciting
after a month i'm testing less one minute locking to sats
in fact it became much faster than before but the signal strength is low
and acuuracy and error shows near 100-120 feet in "GPS Test"
how can i improve it guys please ?
btw ,thanks alot both of you

X1111 said:
do you mean "AGPS update" option through settings ?
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Menu button>tools>manage A-GPS state. Click reset then download. Sorry I was doing it by memory
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Rem3Dy said:
Menu button>tools>manage A-GPS state. Click reset then download. Sorry I was doing it by memory
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i use new 1.2.4 free one and there's not tools section in menu
i think it must be "menu -> clear AGPS" and then "Update AGPS"
i'd done this procedure before but didn't know must use wifi or etc for downloading
thanks anyway , you helped me a lot...

X1111 said:
i use new 1.2.4 free one and there's not tools section in menu
i think it must be "menu -> clear AGPS" and then "Update AGPS"
i'd done this procedure before but didn't know must use wifi or etc for downloading
thanks anyway , you helped me a lot...
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It would help if you were using the right app .
Download GPS Status from:
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2
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Rem3Dy said:
It would help if you were using the right app .
Download GPS Status from:
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2
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lool sorry , i was talking about GPS test , i do clearing also downloading by that
but i alway use "GPS Status & Toolbox" for fixing beacause i thinks it's the fastest
i already did the same mistake about downloading the updates with this too
though my GPS now is much better than before that fixes to 5 or more sats in under 0.5 minutes
do you think it needs to use GPS Status to update again ?
thank you...

fantastic result after 30-45 seconds in an open area :
amount of fixed sats and accuracy are amazing now for me
but after wiping the rom it seems must do the procedure again...
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I believe wiping for a rom install will erase the AGPS data. Do it once and after an install and you should be good.
Glad you got it working
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ns4g still screwed on gps
I have tried everything from the apps, to roms, to kernels, to *#*#gpsclrx#*#* to "fixes" (flashable CWM zips, like h3llstorm), to the official OTA, and they never work for me. location based services like checking in work fine, but anything to do with navigation while being in the car, never works. it drops almost methodically, says searching for gps, has me in neighborhoods beside highways when im on highways, and it is just generally making me very sad. i consider myself an android power user, and have never been stumped like this before. is it my actual phone? the model of phone? samsung? sprint? am i just crazy?

i had the exact same issue after samsung fixed my broken power button. The phone would rarely get a gps lock and if it did the lock lasted for about a second. Navigation was impossible. I called them and they had me ship it in. They repaired it and i should be getting it back by monday. I will report back on if it is fixed.

Well... Let us know if they will fix the compass too ;-)

Mind blowing GPS lock speed

As the title says, Note has mind blowing GPS lock speed. I came from host of devices from Nokia, Acer, HTC and one dedicated GPS and Note beats them all. 2 seconds outside, 7 seconds inside the room (with windows).
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As the title says, Note has mind blowing GPS lock speed. I came from host of devices from Nokia, Acer, HTC and one dedicated GPS and Note beats them all. 2 seconds outside, 7 seconds inside the room (with windows).
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i guess the whole barometer + GLONASS really works

I totally agree best gps I've ever had. Haven't tracked a long trip yet but I'm keen to try it it over the Christmas break!
Finally a capable phone GPS!! Yeeeeah!
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Goonish said:
I totally agree best gps I've ever had. Haven't tracked a long trip yet but I'm keen to try it it over the Christmas break!
Finally a capable phone GPS!! Yeeeeah!
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Same here. All of my HTC phones had excellent GPS while my Samsung Galaxy S2 - Epic Touch was so bad that it was unusable. The Note however is on a different level. Super fast locking and dead on accurate. Used Google navigation today to find a church. Was pretty impressive.

yes, same here: the note has a comparably superb GPS capability
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Used Google navigation today to find a church.
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i hope not for prayers though...

Gloruss
GLONASS it's a pro GPS chipset...
just EXAMPLE:
If regular phone (with out Glonass) finds 8-9 satellites, of them are working only 3-4.
The phone with GLONASS finds 19 satellites and 17-18 working from them.
any questions people?

Yes, Broadcom+GLONASS is the business:
Broadcom Powers Global Positioning in New Samsung GALAXY Note

avetny said:
GLONASS it's a pro GPS chipset...
just EXAMPLE:
If regular phone (with out Glonass) finds 8-9 satellites, of them are working only 3-4.
The phone with GLONASS finds 19 satellites and 17-18 working from them.
any questions people?
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I did a test with a colleague. We put my Note and his non-GLONASS phone side by side and used "GPS Status". His phone got a fix faster than my Note and both phones saw the same amount of satellites. I wanted to check if my Note finds Glonass but I can't really tell. His phone was T-mobile MyTouch. I was disappointed

tarsierspectra said:
I did a test with a colleague. We put my Note and his non-GLONASS phone side by side and used "GPS Status". His phone got a fix faster than my Note and both phones saw the same amount of satellites. I wanted to check if my Note finds Glonass but I can't really tell. His phone was T-mobile MyTouch. I was disappointed
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I think that Note will use GLONASS only if GPS will not available.
Just like QUALCOMM chipsets: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB9pXInwh3k

Karlson2k said:
I think that Note will use GLONASS only if GPS will not available.
Just like QUALCOMM chipsets: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB9pXInwh3k
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Where can I test that out? Where is GPS not available?

tarsierspectra said:
Where can I test that out? Where is GPS not available?
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I would really like to know the answer to this question too. Since GPS is global, I really need to educate myself about GLONASS before I test this stuff out.
However, as long as the GPS is working better then on the S II I'm happy.

Try GPS Test. Satellites with numbers over 60 = GLONASS.
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I would really like to know the answer to this question too. Since GPS is global, I really need to educate myself about GLONASS before I test this stuff out.
However, as long as the GPS is working better then on the S II I'm happy.
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GLONASS is global too. At this moment 24 satellites working. Planned to make the active 30 satellites.

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Try GPS Test. Satellites with numbers over 60 = GLONASS.
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GLONASS is global too. At this moment 24 satellites working. Planned to make the active 30 satellites.
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I've "educated" myself about the GLONASS system now. While doing so I read about the Galileo system for EU. That seems to be something promising.
I think it's cool that Galileo provide both way communication with satellites. How cool apps could spawn from this... =)

ITPiraten said:
I've "educated" myself about the GLONASS system now. While doing so I read about the Galileo system for EU. That seems to be something promising.
I think it's cool that Galileo provide both way communication with satellites. How cool apps could spawn from this... =)
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Not soon, and the prospects are unclear. Not for Galaxy Note.

Yeah, I love the GPS on the Note, with mine old HTC Desire and I cant even get a lock at home. Over 1Hour waiting and not a freaking lock, even locked and then lose it all the time.
With the Note, get lock within 20 sec at home and I just luvvvvvvv it.

my note 16 sattelites indoor, cousing S2 4 indoor

I tested mid-air in flight and it had GPS
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fix there too

[Q] Is Your Nexus GPS Working?

I just got my New Nexus 7 two days ago and really wanted to try out the GPS but it is not getting any signals. I was wondering if anyone is have the same problem. I searched around Google and people say there's can work for about couple of minutes but mine does not work at all. Any suggestions on how to fix this.

Mine is working for atleast couple of minutes. Didn't tested for long. Urs is 16gb or 32gb?
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After going through some threads it looked as this problem is more common in 16gb than 32gb
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So far when needed it works.
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syedhasanzaidi said:
Mine is working for atleast couple of minutes. Didn't tested for long. Urs is 16gb or 32gb?
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After going through some threads it looked as this problem is more common in 16gb than 32gb
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Mine is the 16GB version. I've tried rebooting and turning on and off the GPS but nothing has worked so far.

I've got a 16gb and the gps seems to work great so far. I also purchased a 32gb for a friend overseas and the gps on that one also worked flawlessly.
>^.^< Sent from meow HTC One which is like catnip to me atm

No. For 'real life' use it sucks. We've got a few threads going already. :good:

If you do a search you find that it's been discussed.
A reboot temporarily fixes the issue for me.

Mines worked great since day one. Though I disabled it to help reduce battery drain since I really don't use it on here.
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Deathman20 said:
Mines worked great since day one. Though I disabled it to help reduce battery drain since I really don't use it on here.
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It should not turn on until an app request GPS info. So if you not using an app that requires GPS out should really make a much of a difference in battery life.
But if you don't use it, then nothing lost.

I've got a 32 GB and it works for like 10 minutes max and then it stops updating my location

RojasTKD said:
It should not turn on until an app request GPS info. So if you not using an app that requires GPS out should really make a much of a difference in battery life.
But if you don't use it, then nothing lost.
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Apps that have GPS capability ping it when trying to find a location. Though since you need wifi on anyways to actually get said data, unless your using a map program, then you already have location via the wifi. So no need to ping on the GPS if its already being handled another way

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Apps that have GPS capability ping it when trying to find a location. Though since you need wifi on anyways to actually get said data, unless your using a map program, then you already have location via the wifi. So no need to ping on the GPS if its already being handled another way
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As said, if no apps are requesting GPS, the GPS won't be used, using zero power. Wifi location is not already available, nor in any way accurate in some cases...

I had mine going for maybe 10 minutes before it stopped working. I was using navigation to take the kids to play mini golf. I had to use my S4 the rest of the way. Very aggravating
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WiFi triangulation works good enough for me. It gets my location accurate all of the time. I haven't tried using GPS.

So far Mine is working incredibly fast. I used to have to wait for a minute for my 1st gen to pick it up enough to give me a lock.
This 32GB 2nd Gen had over a dozen locked in the first 10 seconds. (GPS ESSENTIALS)
I will be testing it more tomorrow since I literally have only had this thing for 3 hours now.
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i had absolutely no issues with the 2013 N7 so far and i was playing ingress,
which is a gps/wifi tethered thing for 3 to 14 hours the last days (yes we had
a few events here).
the only thing i did when initially setting up the N7² is to uncheck the "yes use
this stupid new thingie to locate me everytime, everywhere with this newer and
better forgot-the-name service" whcih was the last of the 3 options in the first
run process.
the setting is userbased so anyone which gps problems might try to set a a new
user (multiuser) to the tablet and uncheck that setting to see if this is any
improvement. just an idea..
currently i am on a CM 10.2 rom which is faster as the stock was and battery
life was improved too.

So is the GPS issue SW or HW based?

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So is the GPS issue SW or HW based?
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I don't think anyone knows for sure yet.
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[Q] Note III Vs Ingress!

For those of who play ingress you will be aware of the heavy load it gives to the phone/battery.
I was wondering if any of you have tried this game yet on the note 3? How has it been?
I`m just curious really, looking forward in trying this out when I upgrade but considering my options at the moment.

I get mine today hopefully... I average about 100k in AP a day which translates through to about 2-3 battery recharges for a note 2.
Will let you know when i have it in my hot little hands
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senectus said:
I get mine today hopefully... I average about 100k in AP a day which translates through to about 2-3 battery recharges for a note 2.
Will let you know when i have it in my hot little hands
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Ah nice timing I guess! I wonder also how the "gps" is with the game. I suspect the screen will be great for this.

One hand mode should also help with the game and with stopping "burn in"
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I get mine today hopefully... I average about 100k in AP a day which translates through to about 2-3 battery recharges for a note 2.
Will let you know when i have it in my hot little hands
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Rofl... My daily activities let me walk through a "target rich area 2 or 3 times a day.
That helps
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Got my Note 3 the other week and it is a great phone, except the GPS. Coming from the S4, which has a terrific gps, the game is almost unplayable on the Note 3. The position is drifting although I am standing still or freeze when I am moving. Forget about neat deploys.
I actually sent my unit for repairs. Hopefully they can fix it. Right now back on the S4.
/ Jacob

jajoj said:
Got my Note 3 the other week and it is a great phone, except the GPS. Coming from the S4, which has a terrific gps, the game is almost unplayable on the Note 3. The position is drifting although I am standing still or freeze when I am moving. Forget about neat deploys.
I actually sent my unit for repairs. Hopefully they can fix it. Right now back on the S4.
/ Jacob
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Ouch, Gps is a biggy too and bad placements can be a nightmare. Here is hoping that is a one off.

Just to give another opinion:
I played on Saturday and Monday with the Note 3 for the first time (Verizon model), and I had no issues whatsoever. GPS was awesome, battery life was pretty good (~3-4 hours of Ingress probably but not totally sure) and the game (Broot) ran smooth as butter.
So maybe it's possible some models or some units have GPS issues, but I haven't run into any. Granted, I also haven't played in known GPS-cloudy/floaty areas just yet.

I've had some time with mine now and have found the GPS to be quite flaky.
It's pretty much unusable in a moving vehicle, in the CBD around big buildings Its almost impossible to get lock.
I'm hoping we can tweak this because I still *love* the phone.

senectus said:
I've had some time with mine now and have found the GPS to be quite flaky.
It's pretty much unusable in a moving vehicle, in the CBD around big buildings Its almost impossible to get lock.
I'm hoping we can tweak this because I still *love* the phone.
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I`ve managed to see this in action with the Note 3. First off - excellent device for this game.
Interestingly the GPS in the 1st week was good, then it became gradually more laggy with position so the player would "catch up" as he was moving to the edge of the portal. However, reading another thread which highlighted a similar issue with Google maps; installing GPS status - get the aps state download/calibrate and apparently the issue has now gone.
Perhaps some of you have tried this or not but I would give it a try at least as it appears to have solved the odd drift movement.

azahoth said:
I`ve managed to see this in action with the Note 3. First off - excellent device for this game.
Interestingly the GPS in the 1st week was good, then it became gradually more laggy with position so the player would "catch up" as he was moving to the edge of the portal. However, reading another thread which highlighted a similar issue with Google maps; installing GPS status - get the aps state download/calibrate and apparently the issue has now gone.
Perhaps some of you have tried this or not but I would give it a try at least as it appears to have solved the odd drift movement.
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My gps ground to a halt today, could not get lock at all.
So I installed gps status but it couldn't get lock either.
So I rebooted and it got lock immediately.
It's been perfect since then.
See how it goes.
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senectus said:
My gps ground to a halt today, could not get lock at all.
So I installed gps status but it couldn't get lock either.
So I rebooted and it got lock immediately.
It's been perfect since then.
See how it goes.
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Fingers crossed this fixes it. A few of us are about to take the plunge so any feedback will be great on gps performance.

Have you guys tried disabling the "use wireless networks" option in the GPS settings to see if that helps with the inaccurate/laggy location?

It's been pretty good since my fix yesterday
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It's been pretty good since my fix yesterday
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Excellent news!
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