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quick question about the TP2 and car stereos.

most car stereos today have a USB in for connecting an IPod, Zune, whatever.
do these work with the TP2?

crazy talk said:
most car stereos today have a USB in for connecting an IPod, Zune, whatever.
do these work with the TP2?
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Probably yes (haven't tried it myself), but when you connect your TP2 to an USB-host (which the car stereo is), the TP2 asks you which mode you want (Active Sync, Disk Drive or Internet Sharing). If you select Disk Drive, the microSD card shows up as a diskdrive in windows (or your car stereo...)

Yup, what andrehj says.
All devices that show up as Mass Storage will definately work on car stereo's. Worked on mine. But I never use it. Because mine has Bluetooth 2.0 A2DP support (stereo streaming). It works flawlessly.
No wires for me. Except the charger itself. xD

Simultaneous program access?
I can confirm that the TP2 works in drive mode as an input for a car stereo. However it appears the phone restricts access to the storage card in this mode and programs cannot access it, which means things like TomTom cannot access maps.
Does anyone know a way around this? Is it a WinMo restriction or something else?

Please specify "drive mode"?
I've used mine playing music through A2DP in combination with Tomtom Navigator 7 + Benelux maps.
The only downside I experienced was that the Tomtom voice was much louder than the music I played. Thus when adjusting the music volume to a much louder level, that Tomtom woman scares the heck outta me. Like when needed to take a turn, it's more like "GO LEFT!!!!!! W$E%T#@$%[email protected](#%|(!# ". In between the music.
No problem with tomtom reading the maps though.

'Drive mode' via USB
Thanks Crix84. By 'drive mode' I meant the Disk Drive mode that you can select when connecting via USB. I expect accessing via the BT profile is quite different which is why things work for your setup.
That TT girl would be scary at high volume!

Ohhh okay now I understand. You mean't the mass storage function I was talking about in a previous post of mine.
Well for what I've found and experienced. That mode makes the phone really function like a USB stick aka Mass Storage Device. At that moment only the MicroSD card is blocked from access within the phone. For what I know, the driver used for Mass Storage (any windows system or other) is a standardized universal driver. Wich means it must be as illogic to access the card both from within the phone and the computer/car-radio through USB at the same time. Like using 1 usb stick on 2 pc's by using a usb splitter. Device in use means in use.
Active Sync in the other hand uses a different kind of USB connection. It accesses the phone itself, through that, the card. Mass Storage is a direct function to the microsd card. Kind of a bypass. For compatibility issues. When you just want to put something on your card without the hassle of installing drivers (on old pc's) etc. Wich would really mean that the maps on the card for Tomtom are inaccessible. That would really be indeed a problem. The only solution for that is either use the phone as I do. Bluetooth A2DP not available? Then the car-audio system should change the access mode to the phone. Maybe an active sync like solution/connection. Problem is most manufacturers do that. Thinking of only using a USB stick on the radio. Mine does that too. Only mass storage devices are accepted through my radio's usb.

Sat Nav In Car

Just moving away from an iPhone and getting used to the way the DHD works. Much better!
There are a few issues I am having though.
I have a JVC head unit in my car, which I plug the phone into (USB). What I want to be able to do is have it charge, use the sat nav and also play my music.
When I plug it in and choose 'charge only' it cant find the music. So, I choose 'disk drive". The music then works, but the sat nav doesnt. It says that the SD card is not installed.
Any ideas?

When you connect the DHD as a USB "Disk Drive", the phone actually unmounts (ejects) the SD from your device, so that the external device can read it as a flash drive. Technically, when you are on DiskDrive mode, your phone has no SD.
EDIT: Forgot to say that most (if not all) SatNav programs keep their files on the external SD
If you try installing the SatNav software on the DHD internal memory (have never tried it, it really depends if the software allows you to do that), and not the SD, it might work.
The last choice you got is the USB "HTC Sync" mode, in which case, although the DHD does not eject the SD, your JVC stands absolutely no chance in reading the specific format output from the USB (requires PC with proper HTC software).

Thanks.
Surely thats a severe limitation? I want to be able to plug my DHD into the car stereo so I can listen to music, get sat nav and charge. Surely thats not too much of an ask, and something all my previous phones have been able to do.

I have USB input on my car stereo too. I've never been able to mount the microSD card within the phone OS (WinMob or Android) and also play music through the stereo; Your phone either treats the card as USB mass storage for your stereo, or for your phone, not both.
I only ever use Google Navigation on my Desire HD, and I have a 16GB USB stick for music. It only leaves my car if I want to change the tracks on it. Maybe one of those solutions will be best for you.

Navitel working great?

superdon said:
Thanks.
Surely thats a severe limitation? I want to be able to plug my DHD into the car stereo so I can listen to music, get sat nav and charge. Surely thats not too much of an ask, and something all my previous phones have been able to do.
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The only option of listening to music from the SD card and using navigation software that holds the maps, voices, etc. on the SD card (I think most if not all of them are made that way) is to use the AUX input of your car stereo and play the music with the phone's music player (the quality of the AUX input is not so good on my Sony). That way you'll have your navigation voices also through the stereo, but there was a thread somewhere that in order to play the voices the software pauses the music. Haven't tried it though, so I can't comment if it's true for all the navi softwares.

You can try Dual Mount SD from the Market, but it requires root in order to work. When you install it you can use your sd card in the phone and through usb at the same time. There is no solution without root.
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Thanks for that. Tried it and it kind of works.
Its a bit odd though as the DHD doesnt know what songs are being played - if that makes sense. Its just passing through via USB. If you set up its own music player to do something, it plays that via bluetooth. Kind of cool in a way, but just means you can only control whats being played via the car stereo.
Thanks again, much better than it was.

[Q] Nexus Media Importer help!

Hi Guys,
I bought a Noosy U-disk (4 gb of space + acts as a microSD card reader) for my N10 and I'm disappointed that nexus media importer doesn't do anything when I plug it in. It just says "connecting......waiting for media" and I can never access the files on it.
I bought this thing b/c of it's potential utility with it's microUSB on one side + USB/Card reader on the other. I am desperate to get this working since I am constantly on the run in the hospital and need fast access to my notes & guidelines without eating up all my storage. I'm not interested in rooting b/c I have it set up perfectly and don't want to redo all that redownloading of apps etc...and I don't know what I'm doing lol.
It works PERFECTLY with my Galaxy S3, however.
Thanks and I really appreciate it.
(Note: I also bought a couple of OTG cables but they are taking FOREVER to arrive since they are coming from China)
attached is a pic of my U-disk

Hi there sa278. First of all, if it's working with the samsung galaxy S3, we can all guess where is the problem. However, if you want to root your device, there's a method that won't erase your data, and it is automatically, fast and accurate. Look in the forum for superboot, you just need to install the drivers, and double click a .bat file, the rest is up to the program.
I have to say that nexus media importer will let you use the permission of "write" (plus the ones that you have on non-rooted) by rooting your device, but that's not necessary in your case (non-rooted device can only read and execute).
You can give it a try, but it's pretty weird. Have you tried with any other usb? Goodluck!
Sorry for my english

The developer for NMI is very responsive if you email him. I bought the same U-disk device and could only get the built in drive to work, not the card reader. The developer and I emailed for several days and tried to get it to work. Rooting won't help you get the u-disk to work. We tried that as well. I ended up buying a micro-usb microsd card reader instead from aliexpress that works perfectly with NMI.

AndroidLonghorn said:
The developer for NMI is very responsive if you email him. I bought the same U-disk device and could only get the built in drive to work, not the card reader. The developer and I emailed for several days and tried to get it to work. Rooting won't help you get the u-disk to work. We tried that as well. I ended up buying a micro-usb microsd card reader instead from aliexpress that works perfectly with NMI.
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Do you mind posting a link to the micro-usb microSD card reader you are currently using from aliexpress? I was really hoping this U-disk would work...how disappointing
Thank you.

sa278 said:
Do you mind posting a link to the micro-usb microSD card reader you are currently using from aliexpress? I was really hoping this U-disk would work...how disappointing
Thank you.
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No problem. This solved my problem of storing movies on my Nexus 10. This is the link: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/USB-OTG-Connection-Kit-MicroB-MicroSD-Card-Reader-for-Cellphone-PC-Smartphone-free-shipping/701881177.html. It works perfectly and is small enough not to interfere with the headphone jack.

Not working anymore
I just recently got NMI for my Nexus 7 and using my OTG cable i was able to use my Seagate 1tB external to view movies and music but now when i connect it i keep getting a Connecting USB Device /dev/bus/usb/002/002 Waiting for Media that lasts forever...any ideas?

[Q] Interested in Nexus 10 - Thoughts & Questions

Hi everyone,
I was looking at both the Nexus 10 and the Samsung Note 10. I saw the specs for both and obviously the Nexus has better specs aside from the lack of SD card slot.
I was wonder from other users if they could clue me into short comings for a few of the things I would like to get this tablet for.
1. I have lot of tutorials videos that I would like to use to tablet to see. They come in various formats including wmv, mov, flv, and sometimes other formats. Will viewing tutorials on this tablet be a problem? One thing I am concerned about is how will I be able to store them on the tablet considering the storage is so small. I did some brief searching online and apparently I can get some wire and hook up an external thumb usb drive. I rip a lot of movie dvds for my home theater (Usually movies are around 2GB+ .mov).
2. Is tethering from lets say an HTC EVO (3G) ok for surfing the web when on the road?
3. If you don't have a working wifi connection, can you still use the tablet and google maps for directions? GPS should work without wifi no? Guess the question becomes can you download google maps before hand.

I would suggest getting the N10 and popcorn player for your videos that way you take notes while watching videos usig either freenote or any of the other good handwriting apps

the lack of SD card slot can be easily overcome by using an OTG cable and installing the Nexus Media Importer app. You can connect any USB flash drive or SD card reader to the OTG cable.
I would still suggest getting a 32GB version. You can't store games on a SD card.
Mine tethers fine with a Galaxy S2 wifi hotspot. No reason yours won't.
Not sure about the GPS thing.

Thanks for the feedback and info guys!
Good point on using popcorn player and having a note taking app open!

1. My N10 managed to play every video I threw at it using VLC player. Also you can connect not only USB drives and SD Card readers but also certain 2.5" or 1.8" hard drives. I use a WD MyPassport 500GB and it works as long as the tablet's battery is above about 75%.
2. Tethering works fine. WLAN or Bluetooth, whatever you prefer. Bluetooth tethering is fairly easy on the battery.
3. You can download Maps for offline viewing and GPS works offline as well. I saved my home city (Berlin) and some areas I often go to and it takes up about 150 MB.

External optical drive - Android Yoga Book

Has anyone ever managed to get an external dvd drive working on an Android Yoga Book? I would have thought hooking it up with an OTG connector and a Y cable also going into a power bank to give the drive some juice would work. Would be great to hear if anyone has got it to work.

Risico said:
Has anyone ever managed to get an external dvd drive working on an Android Yoga Book? I would have thought hooking it up with an OTG connector and a Y cable also going into a power bank to give the drive some juice would work. Would be great to hear if anyone has got it to work.
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I was try. DVD drive was recognized but cd accelerated and stops, accelerated and stops... I think energy is too low...

Android Verizon works (With Drawbacks) Windows Verizon should work with a powered hub
Risico said:
Has anyone ever managed to get an external dvd drive working on an Android Yoga Book? I would have thought hooking it up with an OTG connector and a Y cable also going into a power bank to give the drive some juice would work. Would be great to hear if anyone has got it to work.
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Yes, for the android version most portable DVD drives that have AV mode will work.
however, there are some serious drawbacks.
1. you need a powered OTG hub as every drive I've tried, even the low powered portable ones need too much power, it often looks like its working but will have issues spinning or turn off randomly. there may be lower powered ones now but I havent found one with low enough draw not to need a powered hub.
2. its not great for movies. it only works with DVDs that are not encrypted (a lot of low budget or independent DVDs are unencrypted) or data discs with your own video files on them. (if you try to play an encrypted video it will either error out or will play the video but it will look scrambled and will blank out a lot.)
3. even if you do find an unencrypted DVD its not really straightforward to play. without a proper DVD software for android you need an app that at least will play the DVD files (MX player worked for me, I suspect VLC would work as well) the DVD basically opens like a data disk with a bunch of oddly named files, you just have to dig through and find the largest file and that's usually the main video.
as far as I can find there do not seem to be any video players for android that can decrypt a DVD (regular DVD players have built in decryption and PCs use software so its not something you generally think about until it doesn't work)
all this being said, for anyone with the windows version ignore everything above and you will probably be ok with a powered USB hub and some DVD software.
**Edit, I cant change the title now but I typed Verizon instead of Version by mistake. Sorry about that***