most car stereos today have a USB in for connecting an IPod, Zune, whatever.
do these work with the TP2?
crazy talk said:
most car stereos today have a USB in for connecting an IPod, Zune, whatever.
do these work with the TP2?
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Probably yes (haven't tried it myself), but when you connect your TP2 to an USB-host (which the car stereo is), the TP2 asks you which mode you want (Active Sync, Disk Drive or Internet Sharing). If you select Disk Drive, the microSD card shows up as a diskdrive in windows (or your car stereo...)
Yup, what andrehj says.
All devices that show up as Mass Storage will definately work on car stereo's. Worked on mine. But I never use it. Because mine has Bluetooth 2.0 A2DP support (stereo streaming). It works flawlessly.
No wires for me. Except the charger itself. xD
Simultaneous program access?
I can confirm that the TP2 works in drive mode as an input for a car stereo. However it appears the phone restricts access to the storage card in this mode and programs cannot access it, which means things like TomTom cannot access maps.
Does anyone know a way around this? Is it a WinMo restriction or something else?
Please specify "drive mode"?
I've used mine playing music through A2DP in combination with Tomtom Navigator 7 + Benelux maps.
The only downside I experienced was that the Tomtom voice was much louder than the music I played. Thus when adjusting the music volume to a much louder level, that Tomtom woman scares the heck outta me. Like when needed to take a turn, it's more like "GO LEFT!!!!!! W$E%T#@$%[email protected](#%|(!# ". In between the music.
No problem with tomtom reading the maps though.
'Drive mode' via USB
Thanks Crix84. By 'drive mode' I meant the Disk Drive mode that you can select when connecting via USB. I expect accessing via the BT profile is quite different which is why things work for your setup.
That TT girl would be scary at high volume!
Ohhh okay now I understand. You mean't the mass storage function I was talking about in a previous post of mine.
Well for what I've found and experienced. That mode makes the phone really function like a USB stick aka Mass Storage Device. At that moment only the MicroSD card is blocked from access within the phone. For what I know, the driver used for Mass Storage (any windows system or other) is a standardized universal driver. Wich means it must be as illogic to access the card both from within the phone and the computer/car-radio through USB at the same time. Like using 1 usb stick on 2 pc's by using a usb splitter. Device in use means in use.
Active Sync in the other hand uses a different kind of USB connection. It accesses the phone itself, through that, the card. Mass Storage is a direct function to the microsd card. Kind of a bypass. For compatibility issues. When you just want to put something on your card without the hassle of installing drivers (on old pc's) etc. Wich would really mean that the maps on the card for Tomtom are inaccessible. That would really be indeed a problem. The only solution for that is either use the phone as I do. Bluetooth A2DP not available? Then the car-audio system should change the access mode to the phone. Maybe an active sync like solution/connection. Problem is most manufacturers do that. Thinking of only using a USB stick on the radio. Mine does that too. Only mass storage devices are accepted through my radio's usb.
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i have a car radio wich has an usb thingy ..
now when i connect my hd2 to it it asks like on a pc if i wanna go in sync mode or drive mode.
when i choose drive mode it starts looking for mp3's and is gonna play those.
thats good. '
but when i also use tom tom it says no maps found etc, because the drive mode is enabled and when drive mode is enabled you cant see storage card on the hd2.
is there a way that you stil can use storage card on your phone while beeing in drive mode ?
or is it just impossible ??
baam2k said:
i have a car radio wich has an usb thingy ..
now when i connect my hd2 to it it asks like on a pc if i wanna go in sync mode or drive mode.
when i choose drive mode it starts looking for mp3's and is gonna play those.
thats good. '
but when i also use tom tom it says no maps found etc, because the drive mode is enabled and when drive mode is enabled you cant see storage card on the hd2.
is there a way that you stil can use storage card on your phone while beeing in drive mode ?
or is it just impossible ??
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Not sure about your car, but mine has a USB and a 3.5mm socket for aux inputs, so I can charge it via the USB and play music through the 3.5mm socket (with Media Player).
You won't be able to use both TomTom and the phone in USB drive mode.
have an hyundai i20 so i also have a 3.5 socket.
when i put it trough usb its charged and i can select nrs through radio buttons on my steering wheel .
in aux i cant and i have to skips nrs on the phone .
its easier and saver to select nrs from steering wheel and see mp3 info on my radio display .
i use my 3.5 only to get calls on car speakers when i get one.
When the phone is in drive mode the SD card is no longer accessible to the phone and therefore TomTom cannot see the card. It's pretty much no longer in your phone.
So they can't both be used at the same time.
I wanted to know how to connect via USB to my cars audio system.
I used this tutorial: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010/11/18/use-your-windows-phone-7-device-as-a-portable-usb-drive/
I can now store and retrieve picture files from the phone but I still cannot play music files on my cars audio system. It seems as if the phone turns off this feature when my cars head unit tries to communicate with it via USB.
I also cannot connect via bluetooth.
I have read that some folks have been successful in implementing this feat. I really dont want to use the headphone jack because I cannot control the phones audio via my head unit. I guess I am looking to set it up legacy style like my previous phones eg iphone, nexus one, milestone etc.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
The portable USB 'trick' doesn't make the device a USB Mass Storage device. It's a client-side registry modification that only makes the device viewable in windows explorer (legacy mode). It's still running its communications over the proprietary MTPz zune-sync protocol. This is why after running the registry modification, you can't just plug your WP7 into another computer and have it pop up, and also why it requires the Zune software to be installed, and to sync up first for it to work.
This is also why it won't/can't work with your USB capable audio system. It has absolutely no ability to do Zune protocol sync (as far as I'm aware, Kenwood made a head unit that could, but I don't know if it works with WP7. I'd doubt it), and despite the misreporting of various sites, your WP7 is not magically now a mass storage device.
Bluetooth may or may not work. I don't know about A2DP support on either your car's head unit, or WP7, and it may be specific to the device/manufacturer as to whether this is present (I have no idea). If bluetooth doesn't work, you're pretty much **** out of luck.
Headphone jack is your best (only) option. I can't recall if the supplied headphone cable has inline media controls. If so, you could probably macguyver that into a line-in cable for your stereo and use the media controls on that. Ghetto, but workable.
wow, that really sucks.. I am liking this phone less and less...
Just moving away from an iPhone and getting used to the way the DHD works. Much better!
There are a few issues I am having though.
I have a JVC head unit in my car, which I plug the phone into (USB). What I want to be able to do is have it charge, use the sat nav and also play my music.
When I plug it in and choose 'charge only' it cant find the music. So, I choose 'disk drive". The music then works, but the sat nav doesnt. It says that the SD card is not installed.
Any ideas?
When you connect the DHD as a USB "Disk Drive", the phone actually unmounts (ejects) the SD from your device, so that the external device can read it as a flash drive. Technically, when you are on DiskDrive mode, your phone has no SD.
EDIT: Forgot to say that most (if not all) SatNav programs keep their files on the external SD
If you try installing the SatNav software on the DHD internal memory (have never tried it, it really depends if the software allows you to do that), and not the SD, it might work.
The last choice you got is the USB "HTC Sync" mode, in which case, although the DHD does not eject the SD, your JVC stands absolutely no chance in reading the specific format output from the USB (requires PC with proper HTC software).
Thanks.
Surely thats a severe limitation? I want to be able to plug my DHD into the car stereo so I can listen to music, get sat nav and charge. Surely thats not too much of an ask, and something all my previous phones have been able to do.
I have USB input on my car stereo too. I've never been able to mount the microSD card within the phone OS (WinMob or Android) and also play music through the stereo; Your phone either treats the card as USB mass storage for your stereo, or for your phone, not both.
I only ever use Google Navigation on my Desire HD, and I have a 16GB USB stick for music. It only leaves my car if I want to change the tracks on it. Maybe one of those solutions will be best for you.
Navitel working great?
superdon said:
Thanks.
Surely thats a severe limitation? I want to be able to plug my DHD into the car stereo so I can listen to music, get sat nav and charge. Surely thats not too much of an ask, and something all my previous phones have been able to do.
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The only option of listening to music from the SD card and using navigation software that holds the maps, voices, etc. on the SD card (I think most if not all of them are made that way) is to use the AUX input of your car stereo and play the music with the phone's music player (the quality of the AUX input is not so good on my Sony). That way you'll have your navigation voices also through the stereo, but there was a thread somewhere that in order to play the voices the software pauses the music. Haven't tried it though, so I can't comment if it's true for all the navi softwares.
You can try Dual Mount SD from the Market, but it requires root in order to work. When you install it you can use your sd card in the phone and through usb at the same time. There is no solution without root.
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Thanks for that. Tried it and it kind of works.
Its a bit odd though as the DHD doesnt know what songs are being played - if that makes sense. Its just passing through via USB. If you set up its own music player to do something, it plays that via bluetooth. Kind of cool in a way, but just means you can only control whats being played via the car stereo.
Thanks again, much better than it was.
Hi Guys,
I got a Alpine Deck (ida-x100) in my car and everytime I plug in the SGS2 it makes the USB Connect noise continutiously and doesn't detect, I had a HTC desire and the phone worked with no issues (just no library support) Does anyone know if there is a way to resolve this issue?
It would be awesome if you could emulate the iphone library environment and make it compatible with Android!
Hi man, you can buy the alpine 400 kce bt receiver for ida x100 (I've got it too) and connect ur phone with this; the results are very very nice...handfree call, music, vocal command ecc ecc
Thanks man, might consider it
How do you control music/audio? is it via the alpine deck or the phone UI?
Also - what do you use for voice control? vlingo?
vincheesel said:
Hi Guys,
I got a Alpine Deck (ida-x100) in my car and everytime I plug in the SGS2 it makes the USB Connect noise continutiously and doesn't detect, I had a HTC desire and the phone worked with no issues (just no library support) Does anyone know if there is a way to resolve this issue?
It would be awesome if you could emulate the iphone library environment and make it compatible with Android!
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I had this same problem (constant connection bleep and storage not found). Alpine Support said the phone is not compatible but this is incorrect. You need to connect the phone as a Mass Storage device, not as a phone.
To do this select Settings > Wireless and Network > USB Utilities > Connect Storage to PC. Then connect to the Apline headunit via USB and I think you have to select Connect again on your handset. You have to scroll down through the first menu on the headunit to Music and hey presto.
Whilst in mass storage mode I do not think the handset has any other functionality. Personally, I am just going to keep a large USB stick in the car so that I can use the phone for GPS and calls (safely, obviously!)
Worth bearing in mind the Alpine only works with MP3 AAC and WMA.
SIAP. I did search the forums for this content and did not find it, so I am starting this new thread.
I have a car with Ford Sync that works well with a Zune, iPhone/iPod, USB memory stick etc but cannot recognize the Samsung Focus. I can stream through BlueTooth, but that is not nearly as convenient. Has anyone experienced similar results or, better yet, know how to fix this issue?
I intended to let my Focus be my Zune by installing an SD card and connecting it to my Sync, but the SD card was buggy and the USB connection didn't work. I see where the SD card issue might be resolvable, so if the USB connection also has a work-around, I might be able to execute plan alpha after all.
Thanks.
Mine connects with Sync with no problems.
Have you looked to see if an update is available for your Sync?
Does it connect through the USB port, or Bluetooth stream? I don't have any problems with the Bluetooth connection, its the USB port that doesn't work. I will check on a Sync update, but reading other forums I had understood there was a known issue with the USB ports on these phones.
focus and focus S both work fine on BT with my Ford Sync.
have not tried USB to phone yet
Sure, my phone connects through BlueTooth as well, but the USB connection is where you get most of the Sync functionality. Any other USB device, including iPhones, it will index the MP3 information and allow you to voice-control your MP3 player. It is very convenient with my Zune, but you can't do it through BlueTooth. To me, its an important safety feature to be able to voice-control your MP3 as opposed to having to look down at the device to change songs or find a particular song/artist/album.
So...none of you have run into this issue?
I'd guess that you can't use the USB to read MP3s because WP7 doesn't allow direct access to your files the way other MP3 players do. Sure you can get there with some software and hacks, but it's definitely not the same as other devices. Until MS and Ford work something out, bluetooth and audio in lines will be the only way to use it. Agreed that it's just not as convenient, but then I still have a 1st gen SYNC system so I'm not hoping for anything at this point.