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MESSAGE to HTC, Tmobile, Android and Google

There is a problem with our battery life and we all know its true... I have even been given a new battery and HTC mains charger
I turn off any service im not using at the time (ie: wifi, BT, GPS, NETGPS,etc) not that I should have to do this, but lets story on track...
My battery will make about 1 day as I am A "power user" but if its not plugged in I wont have the juice for my alarm to wake me up, my wifes Sony Ericsson lasts 4-5 days per charge, but lets not compare apples and oranges, the whi-phone 3g my sister has sahe bought it about the same times as my g1, she hadn't ever heard of "deep cycling" 2-5 times when you get a new phone, she never lets it discharge fully and just tops off all the time, AFAIK she is treating a NIMH cell exactly the wrong way, BUT SHE GETS 1-3 DAYS depending on the type of use, and never turns off ANY of the 3g, gps, net gps, wifi, BT nada and Id say she uses hers alot because its her primary camera, GPS & A/V player
my question is WHY?
Im sure there must be somebody involved with the development of this phone/OS that reads thru here, since there is more exciting stuff coming from XDA than there is the market...
Im gonna add a poll that pertains to battery use...
I wanted to add one very negative one but hit submit not preview, maybe just post and dont vote if none apply..
they better come off a new battery almost all other new phones will get 1-2 day + average use, Ive had phones that could go 3-4. but the state of the art G1 mindblowing innovative phone wont even work a whole day, so what if its bigger than the whi-phone, it has no keyboard.
I for one would like to hear some solid info on a replacement battery and back, for new and existing G1 users, early adopters got the fuzzy end of the lollipop on the HTC->headphone jack adapter I got the headphones with the htc angled adapter from fleabay, so many manufactures stick it to the early adopter, when we are the ones that get the word of mouth going, as people go "WOW that thing is cool!,what is it?! they know when we bought out phones and should be able to figure out when the head phone rev change was made, so send them to the first of the buyers....
IF the battery issue isnt fixed, alot of people will be very angry and the g1 will flop.
I think the bad press is starting to out weigh the good press the G1 and possibly android as a whole is at a crossroad. If the g1 tanks Android will be stained forever...thankfully enuff I dont think XDA-DEV would give up on this badboy, I love this thing, and I love it for what it can be
BhanG

Well stated sir.

HTC/Google need to fix battery problems in G1. Maybe it's soft bug, but maybe it's a hardware bug - Nobody knows

I dunno. With normal use, I get about 12 hours or more from my stock battery. That's about the same as other HTC phones I've had.

there is a battery issue and we are al aware of it.
i have managed to have it last through out the day
just set the brightness to the lowest possible, sleep time to 15 secs
turn off data and wifi and anything else that you are not using
its not how the phone was intended to be used, but it's what i ave to do for now

I find it fine for everyday use. Of course I haven't done a full test but maybe tomorrow I will.

I would like to use my G1 like I use my WinMo but no way I can with the battery.

bhang said:
IF the battery issue isnt fixed, alot of people will be very angry and the g1 will flop.
I think the bad press is starting to out weigh the good press the G1 and possibly android as a whole is at a crossroad. If the g1 tanks Android will be stained forever.
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I think you're exaggerating here a little bit. The battery life, while it got press at first, has faded from the limelight of android news for the general population. The G1 is already far from a flop and I don’t think there’s going to be a sudden mass return of all the handsets sold.
Let’s face it living on the cutting edge means you will get cut sometimes. Your high expectations will not always be met and manufacturers will frequently not care. The battery life is less than what many people expected, but we’ve learned to deal with it. At least we have options (power management, backup batteries, and expanded capacity batteries), but I’d not hold my breath on HTC making any major moves. How long has the issue been going with the TYTN II drivers anyway?

bhang said:
BUT SHE GETS 1-3 DAYS depending on the type of use, and never turns off ANY of the 3g, gps, net gps, wifi, BT nada
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I have no idea what kind of use gets 1-3 days, but it certainly isn't 3G web browsing. Most iPhone 3G battery life tests clock 3G data use at about 3-5 hours. Based on my own usage of a friend's iPhone 3G, that seems to be about right. Coincidentally my G1 gets about 3-5 hours of 3G data use as well.
Frankly, from an engineer's point of view I have not seen any power drain tests conducted with enough rigor and variable control to be worthy of being called a truly scientific analysis. Even the best "battery life tests" out there aren't declaring what type of testing environment (los and distance to closest 3G tower), what background apps are installed, ambient temperature (which affects the battery discharge profile), etc. Without considering and removing these variables from the test, deviation could be as high as... well there's no fixing the percentage really. It's all just junk data.

I do notice after I installed Task Manager, to close out programs I am not using my battery life went up. There are a lot of un needed start up apps.

TimSykes said:
There are a lot of un needed start up apps.
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Care to give some examples? Im curious to see what runs on startup that isnt needed.

QUOTE jashsu
I have no idea what kind of use gets 1-3 days, but it certainly isn't 3G web browsing. Most iPhone 3G battery life tests clock 3G data use at about 3-5 hours. Based on my own usage of a friend's iPhone 3G, that seems to be about right. Coincidentally my G1 gets about 3-5 hours of 3G data use as well.
Yep my friend has iphone and we did test last weekend, both went 3 hours and change then died. If i dont use internet and set timeout and brightness down plus use task manager mine will go as long as my dash. I personally dont care about the battery life, i have a computer, home charger and car charger and i drive for a living so if it gets low no biggie. In my opinion i dont see android going anywhere and i love the g1. Just like wm its gonna take time to get off the ground. To say its at a crossroads is ridiculous.

I am using ADP1.1 and yea if I am browsing the net with 3G for 3-5 hours straight I start seeing the battery go down. But from 100% to 0% takes me longer than 5 hours. I know because I like to lay in bed and don't care to come check my messages LOL

I bought a G1 last week and so far I have been really dissapointed. After having an elf and seeing other htc phones I was expecting big things from the G1.
I am now a week into ownership and after 5 full charge - discharge cycles I am managing to get 24 hours out of the phone with next to no use what so ever. If i check my emails and do 30 mins browsing the phone is dead in 6 or less.
The hardware is simply put 'very poor' my screen is wobbly and the back is loose, all this after just a week.
As for android, it is fantastic everything I expected (except hotmail support) and there is no way it is going to flop. Its just a shame that google and htc didn't wait until they had the right phone for the job.
Thats just my 10p worth!!

Dharkaron said:
Care to give some examples? Im curious to see what runs on startup that isnt needed.
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It all depends on what you have installed. for me the start up is. I beleve amazon does too, but I uninstalled that. But the first thing I do is go into task manager and kill everything. And only like two things auto start up. I really with HTC built in a x-button app for android. I loved the click x for close.
myFaves
messaging
voice dialer
calendar
Alarm clock
k-9
woot checker
tunewiki
gmail

Under light usage I get about 36 hours from full charge to shutdown. That's GPS on, Bluetooth on, Autosync on, periodically doing e-mail and web browsing.
Under heavy usage (Which is basically I listened to MP3s for 2 hours) it goes at least 17 hours before I plug it back in. I haven't tested but I'd bet it could go 20 or more.
That's as good as (or better) than I was getting on the Wizard/MDA.

I dunno if anyone has stated it but the problem with the battery has to do with the phone recieving the cell signal. For some reason the phone runs in overload when searching for a cell signal...I noticed this one day when T-Mo suspended my service and my battery meter never moved all day, I think by night it was down to 85-90%...sure enough that night when I paid my bill and the phone started picking up signal again, the battery depleted at "normal" speed.

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Preech2003 said:
This extended battery barely increases the size of the phone...
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so exactly how much is "barely"? care to give side by side comparison shots?

dubstar_04 said:
As for android, it is fantastic everything I expected (except hotmail support) and there is no way it is going to flop. Its just a shame that google and htc didn't wait until they had the right phone for the job.
Thats just my 10p worth!!
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Why do i keep hearing that there is no hotmail support? Android (and G1) works with hotmail just fine! Just go to the Email program and set it up. WHY!! .. I am having connection errors sometimes though..
Battery is a big issue. Never had any luck with it.. EVER.. just unplugged it and after about 1+ hour it's down to 66%. Played a game (slide puzzle) watched 2 youtube vids of about 3 minutes each. And I had it fully drained and recharged a couple of times in the beginning. It didn't even took 10 minutes to drop from 100% to 89%.. But I was on wifi.. Maybe this is normal.
Software has a lot to do with this I think. Yesterday I had about 50-60% left. Did something, can't remember what, opening programs or music. And closed it. After 5 minutes I checked and battery was hot and had drained to orange level. I checked with task manager and only calendar/messaging/tunewiki/music was on. I closed all and restarted the phone, cuz it was still hot. Luckily it lasted a few hours till I got home, with very carefull use..

Battery Life???

I heard the standby time on this phone is awesome.
When I got it, the standby time was terrible!
How can I improve battery life?
What am I missing?
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This is my experiance.
When I bought the phone...first 3 times I fully discharged my battery and charge it over night when he was off. 3 times like that, one kind of "formating" battery process.
Now with stock ROM 1.66 WWE EastEurope...5-6 programs and 3 games,with normal use I can used him 48h, with full use of everything...24h.
In standbye over night 1%/3h dropps down...

Smartmob said:
This is my experiance.
When I bought the phone...first 3 times I fully discharged my battery and charge it over night when he was off. 3 times like that, one kind of "formating" battery process.
Now with stock ROM 1.66 WWE EastEurope...5-6 programs and 3 games,with normal use I can used him 48h, with full use of everything...24h.
In standbye over night 1%/3h dropps down...
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hey thanks! I'll try that. so just let the battery die then charge it up again and repeat?

Do a search. I average about 2.5 days of moderate use.

please don't let your battery die.
Li_ion batteries doesn't suffer from memory loss, so there is no reason to let it discharge fully. let it get low like 3-5%.
but besides that, conditioning of the battery is important on a new battery.
if you flash a new ROM, it is also important to go through cycles before it configured the correct battery capacity.
i got it a couple of days ago as well, and standby time is very impressive. batteryrarely drops over-night.
the problem is during the day with heavy usage...

rickyoon.vegas said:
please don't let your battery die.
Li_ion batteries doesn't suffer from memory loss, so there is no reason to let it discharge fully. let it get low like 3-5%.
but besides that, conditioning of the battery is important on a new battery.
if you flash a new ROM, it is also important to go through cycles before it configured the correct battery capacity.
i got it a couple of days ago as well, and standby time is very impressive. batteryrarely drops over-night.
the problem is during the day with heavy usage...
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last night I let it go down to 6% and then powered off.
Then I charged to 100% overnight and I think the life today is better than normal.
I've played a little tekken and I still have 4 filled in battery slots!

Turn off push email and limit anything that updates automatically (weather, facebook info etc..) I went from 1 day to 3 days just by doing that.

johncmolyneux said:
Turn off push email and limit anything that updates automatically (weather, facebook info etc..) I went from 1 day to 3 days just by doing that.
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oh wow. so if I turn these things that update automatically, can I still hit update now?
I do that now anyway!

Yes...you can always hit "Update now" when you wanna se any new update.
Today...i phoned for cca 3min, send & recieve 20SMS, 20min playing with device...and my battery drops on 85% now...from 8h in the morning...thats in 14h 15%

Is it possible to make maybe that it won't update weather at night?

hiddengopher said:
oh wow. so if I turn these things that update automatically, can I still hit update now?
I do that now anyway!
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As smartmob says, yes. I did it like that for a few days but ended up switching most things back on (email accounts, weather, ms myphone etc.), but with longer intervals between things.
I was suprised how much of a difference turning off these things made to be honest. Turns out that my telling off from O2 (1.2GB of data in a week ) was a blessing in disguise

Smartmob said:
This is my experiance.
When I bought the phone...first 3 times I fully discharged my battery and charge it over night when he was off. 3 times like that, one kind of "formating" battery process.
Now with stock ROM 1.66 WWE EastEurope...5-6 programs and 3 games,with normal use I can used him 48h, with full use of everything...24h.
In standbye over night 1%/3h dropps down...
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where did u get 1.66 wwe east europe stock rom its not out yet

Hmm, so having read up on some posts claiming that battery life steadily improves with the HD2, I've been patient since Wed (when I got the phone, TMOUS HD2), but my battery life is still horrific. I've got every auto update off, besides weather and email every half hour. I've adjusted every other option I could think of that would drain the battery, and yet, I'm experiencing at best, a 6-7 hour usage with NO web browsing, 2-3 calls, and about 10 texts. In standby alone, my phone is dropping 2-3% every half hour it seems. Also, I've made sure that no superfluous programs are running in the background via taskmanager. Now I've read that others have had poor battery life too, but my case seems pretty bad, and don't see hope that the battery will improve much beyond this. Is it possible that my phone is faulty or that my battery's faulty? or perhaps even both?

joefosho315 said:
Hmm, so having read up on some posts claiming that battery life steadily improves with the HD2, I've been patient since Wed (when I got the phone, TMOUS HD2), but my battery life is still horrific. I've got every auto update off, besides weather and email every half hour. I've adjusted every other option I could think of that would drain the battery, and yet, I'm experiencing at best, a 6-7 hour usage with NO web browsing, 2-3 calls, and about 10 texts. In standby alone, my phone is dropping 2-3% every half hour it seems. Also, I've made sure that no superfluous programs are running in the background via taskmanager. Now I've read that others have had poor battery life too, but my case seems pretty bad, and don't see hope that the battery will improve much beyond this. Is it possible that my phone is faulty or that my battery's faulty? or perhaps even both?
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There's obviously something wrong somewhere, isn't there!
Perhaps it may be a good idea to try a different battery. It obviously means buying a new one (and not some cheap crap off ebay either!), but it's an easier option than sending your lovely new phone away for repair.

same here
especially coming from a nexus one, since day 1 i have tried all of these solutions and no success.. i did a hard reset as well just to see if that had anything to do with it and it didnt..
im at 40% and i have had the phone for 6 hours and a half, i literally sent 10 texts and called 2 people for a total of 20 minutes.. really strange..
i wish these smartphones had bb battery lives lol, but then again my bb didnt really have a huge screen or touchscreens

yeah if I can't figure out what's causing the issue, I might just go ahead and get my HD2 exchanged for a new one since I'm still within the 14 day return period for Tmobile. Too bad I already applied my screen protector! What a waste...

joefosho315 said:
Hmm, so having read up on some posts claiming that battery life steadily improves with the HD2, I've been patient since Wed (when I got the phone, TMOUS HD2), but my battery life is still horrific. I've got every auto update off, besides weather and email every half hour. I've adjusted every other option I could think of that would drain the battery, and yet, I'm experiencing at best, a 6-7 hour usage with NO web browsing, 2-3 calls, and about 10 texts. In standby alone, my phone is dropping 2-3% every half hour it seems. Also, I've made sure that no superfluous programs are running in the background via taskmanager. Now I've read that others have had poor battery life too, but my case seems pretty bad, and don't see hope that the battery will improve much beyond this. Is it possible that my phone is faulty or that my battery's faulty? or perhaps even both?
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Maybe you can try using with no sd card. Some people found out that one faulty mp3 may cause such issue. Have a look at the topic 'Extreme battery usage with non-official ROMs' under HD2 ROM Development section.
I wanted to post a link for this topic but I cannot post link due to some restrictions.

Interesting, thanks for the heads up. The thing is, I've only been running the stock factory ROM, and I haven't even uploaded any MP3's onto the device either. Anyhow, I'll give a read through and take my SD card out now to see if it helps!

funky26cro said:
where did u get 1.66 wwe east europe stock rom its not out yet
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Evo, ovdje klikni na prvi link i u folderu 1.66 ćeš naći i EastEurope Nije službeno izašao...ali ga ima ovdje...neznam kako ali ima, ja ga instalirao i kao svaki drugi stock ROM je.
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Here, click on this link and find it in 1.66 folder. Its not officily out, but its here. I install it normaly like every other stock ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577717

johncmolyneux said:
There's obviously something wrong somewhere, isn't there!
Perhaps it may be a good idea to try a different battery. It obviously means buying a new one (and not some cheap crap off ebay either!), but it's an easier option than sending your lovely new phone away for repair.
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I'm beginning to think there's something faulty with the TMO-US HD2's.
We should do some testing...

How I got 20+ hours of battery

Im able to run my phone for over 20 hours with sync and data on.
How I managed it:
1. Deleted almost every app
2. Flashed 8/25
3. Switched to Launcher Pro
4. Go to CyanogenMod Settings>User Interface> Automatic Backlight> Enable
5. Go to Spare Parts> End Button behavior > Set Go to Sleep
5. Wiped dalvik cache
6. Recharged to full
7. While at 100% charging, wiped battery stats
8. Unplug and let the phone drain to 0% (let it turn off)
9. Recharge and enojoy
If succesfull backup
Im using the stock kerned with NO battery tweak. I tried it but since I didnt see any improvement I took it out. 8/25 is amazingly fast with launcher Pro so I dont see the point in changing anything else to my Hero. Now I only install Apps that I really want or that wont keep my phone awake. I use pure calendar, handcent, beautiful widgets...stuff like that
Now after 10 months of use im really enjoying my HERO. I hope this helps those of you that are trying to improve your battery life.

gurusux said:
How I managed it:
1. Deleted almost every app
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genius.

they kept auto installing after flashing a new Rom lol
Im no expert but I figured I had to uninstall them before flashing

How I got 70+ hours of battery
1. Used CM6 Nightly
2. Used TweakTool(still in development http://tweaktool.com but it is the same as collin_ph's battery tweak essentially)
3. Used Decad3nce's experimental BFS kernel
4. Left 3g off unless I needed it
5. ????
6. PROFIT

I have 3g on all the time

The best I have pulled on my phone was 32 hours with twenty percent left this was with light to avg use with 3g turned off, unless o needed it....
I was on nightly 8/24 with uncapped kernel #8
Sent from my Froyo Hero

gurusux said:
I have 3g on all the time
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Why? You can use an app like JuiceDefender to set it to turn on every 5 or 10 minutes to allow updates and set it to keep 3g on when the screen is on, could save you some battery

Sounds good ill try it. Thanks
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Juice defender destroyed my phones battery life, even when I configured it all, it just drained, drained, drained.
Auto brightness is a waste of battery to me, i set it to 30% and forget it.
My phone makes it through the day, thats all I need. About 30% at 10 pm, off the charger at 7am.

Zardos66 said:
Juice defender destroyed my phones battery life, even when I configured it all, it just drained, drained, drained.
Auto brightness is a waste of battery to me, i set it to 30% and forget it.
My phone makes it through the day, thats all I need. About 30% at 10 pm, off the charger at 7am.
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Same here. With Juice Defender I was lucky if my charge held through my lunch break at work.
The biggest battery save for me is to turn off 3G until I have to use it. By the time I go to bed I still have 40-50 percent charge on my phone.

Tried juice defender for around 5 hours and didn't work. At 30% said I had 2 more hours left. During the first hour after setup it drained 9%. That's a lot. Uninstalled
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Well fear not citizens, for soon, tweaktool will be released (hopefully soon, depends on how much time i have laying around to program it) and will work for any phone, any rom, etc. Also gonna have new features eventually like 3g off when screen off, and a few other things, spread the word http://tweaktool.com

strange I've always had good luck with juice defender. Lately though with how well cm6 is on the battery I've been setting juice defender to only shut off 3g when the screens off and turn it on every hour for 5 minutes to update. My batter life is pretty amazing right now.

tomatosoup said:
Well fear not citizens, for soon, tweaktool will be released (hopefully soon, depends on how much time i have laying around to program it) and will work for any phone, any rom, etc. Also gonna have new features eventually like 3g off when screen off, and a few other things, spread the word http://tweaktool.com
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Interesting. I want in! Love playing with new things and tweaking, sounds like your compiling all the best parts of the best battery saving tweaks. Definitely gonna keep an eye on this.

tomatosoup said:
Well fear not citizens, for soon, tweaktool will be released (hopefully soon, depends on how much time i have laying around to program it) and will work for any phone, any rom, etc. Also gonna have new features eventually like 3g off when screen off, and a few other things, spread the word http://tweaktool.com
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sounds great... cant wait......

man you must have a crappy battery then. all i id was turn my 3g off when i dont need it. I had wifi going, gps going(and used both quite a bit). Made a handful of phone calls lasting about 10 minutes each. i have 16/hrs 49/min since unplugged right now and im at 77%. I must be doing something different cuz i can have my phone off the charger for around 2 days and still have about 20% left before i charge it.

PlagaDeRock said:
Interesting. I want in! Love playing with new things and tweaking, sounds like your compiling all the best parts of the best battery saving tweaks. Definitely gonna keep an eye on this.
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Well really it's more of an upgraded version of the battery tweak featuring a gui and some other new things.

tomatosoup said:
Well really it's more of an upgraded version of the battery tweak featuring a gui and some other new things.
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Can't wait to try it! I am hard (IMO) on my phone 4-5hrs.talking maybe more 5-10 texts and my music running almost all day tho it switches off on a call,m lucky if I get 6-7 hrs out of it. I am in a truck all day, so charging is no problem. Thanks for hard work!

I'm currently sitting at 50% after 26 hours of battery life and medium usage... CM6RC1, stock kernel and collins_ph tweak

tomatosoup said:
Well fear not citizens, for soon, tweaktool will be released (hopefully soon, depends on how much time i have laying around to program it) and will work for any phone, any rom, etc. Also gonna have new features eventually like 3g off when screen off, and a few other things, spread the word http://tweaktool.com
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Put me on your tester list, please!

Battery drain

hi there
from 2 days there is a big drain battery in my ARC ...
any one have same problme ....
and any suggestion to solve this ?

ringrover said:
hi there
from 2 days there is a big drain battery in my ARC ...
any one have same problme ....
and any suggestion to solve this ?
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Dont worry too much...Considering if your phone is new, the battery need conditioning. Just use it for a week with full charge cycle, I am sure it will be normal. Also you can check from battery usage, to make sure it's not some apps you installed that caused the heavy drain.

This is standard in the first few days; 4 days into me having mine, I noticed a decrease from 100% to 31% in 6.5 hours without even touching the phone, however now it runs a breeze.
I wouldn't say wait for it to mellow out and it will be perfect (although you can sit it out, regardless of what you do the phone battery will still need to adjust) but in the long run I'd suggest making use of the handy new battery management feature (Home, Menu, Settings, Applications, Battery Use) and also an application called Advanced Task Killer, which will manage applications that are loaded in memory on the phone. Some say this helps, some say it doesnt, but I personally feel it's beneficial to have it installed.

Be very careful if you're running Kakaotalk or Whatsapp - they drink battery power like mad.

Just be careful with running apps and widgets - I've put my WiFi sleep policy to when screen is off too.
Really pleased with my battery life - getting between 18 - 24 hours of pretty heavy use per charge
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I'm tired of answering this question... please use the SEARCH feature.

I have the same problem with battery drain... When I restart the phone the problem dispersers for some time... I have only installed a few apps that I have used without problems on my HTC HD2.. I have run a lot of different android roms on HD2 without this kind of problem..
Actual I noticed the battery drain problem from first start on my ARC..
Now I have installed the "Only Battery Widget" and on the graph I can clearly see that the battery drain is lower after a restart.
I don't know when or why the problem appear...

I have the same problem before! However, after uninstall task killer program, disable Bravia engine, install shutupbatterysaver and do a reboot, the battery problem has gone!

I see Whatsapp is always in the "Running" apps list after restart. I don't use it.
I don't have an account and I tried to open the app once but did not register or agree to the terms.
It shouldn't use a lot of battery right?

vincent.hsy said:
I see Whatsapp is always in the "Running" apps list after restart. I don't use it.
I don't have an account and I tried to open the app once but did not register or agree to the terms.
It shouldn't use a lot of battery right?
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It's installed on mine too but does not use much.
Kakaotalk, on the other hand, accounted for 22% of my battery usage - and I wasn't even using it!!
Uninstalled it.

my 1st proper days usage today and i got 19hrs at which point i hit 15% battery so stuck it back on charge, i was messing with the phone all day, quite a bit of gaming, 3 or 4 videos, pictures net etc, screen on auto, i have no task killer installed... i feel that when ive come out of a game when i check whats running its not there so no need as far as i can see to have 1, pleased with the battery it hasnt yet been through any cycles, this is the 1st time ive properly charged it

The battery drain from first day to third day is extremly different!
First day battery drained about 10% per hour idle,third day 2% only

ringrover said:
hi there
from 2 days there is a big drain battery in my ARC ...
any one have same problme ....
and any suggestion to solve this ?
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Same here.
I notice there a lot of background services running on the ARC as compared to my Galaxy S and they cannot be stopped (keep coming back) or uninstalled.
I am using Green Power Free set to 1 min ON and 5 mins OFF to see if things get any better.

My Arc drain almost 30% over night with data off. I did a hard reset, it drop only 3%

For that matter I'll have to ask something... Is it detrimental to my battery's health when I charge it while still being halfway full? Does it hamper the total capacity? Because that's what I have to do sometimes because of school... Don't want an almost-empty battery there
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x9745 said:
My Arc drain almost 30% over night with data off. I did a hard reset, it drop only 3%
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Mine is new (less than a week) so shouldn't need hard reset right? Anyway, the Green Power seem to does its job, 68% now after 7.5 hours.

Regii said:
For that matter I'll have to ask something... Is it detrimental to my battery's health when I charge it while still being halfway full? Does it hamper the total capacity? Because that's what I have to do sometimes because of school... Don't want an almost-empty battery there
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Theoretically Lithium batteries shouldn't be a problem since there is no memory effect. Just do a complete charge/discharge/charge cycle once a month or so to "calibrate" the battery meter.
You should also do it once or twice when new.

One more thing, I am using third party micro usb charger, the phone screen unlock not working!!! Which I cant unlock the phone while i charge!! Just be more careful. Or any friend have this issue?

Hi, it happened to me too. My battery started draining faster. I was not able to figure out which app caused it, may be WhatsTheApp or Evernote. So I took a backup and made a factory reset. Now my battery is back to normal. you can try that. Now I'm getting 2 days even after playing some HD games. Really loving this phone. Hope this helps....

sgsgs said:
Theoretically Lithium batteries shouldn't be a problem since there is no memory effect. Just do a complete charge/discharge/charge cycle once a month or so to "calibrate" the battery meter.
You should also do it once or twice when new.
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It is new. You mean actually waiting until it turns itself off? Would have to do that.
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R800x 2.3.3. battery life absolutely deathly

Okay so I posted here a week or so ago about how my Xperia Play was epicly failing....it was force closing everything and dying in just hours.
So I factory reset and used Titanium to restore all of my apps and stuff...and so far the crawling speed/force closing has for the most part abated (opening up texts and contacts still sometimes takes forever or force closes)
but the battery issue remains. My battery is absolute garbage at the moment. It drains by 10 percent per half hour if being used or even more!! And it gets hot constantly, and obviously at that time it really sheds the power and dies quickly.
If I'm CHARGING the phone WHILE using it heavily, it WON'T power ABOVE the % it started at!! It stays constant or goes down!!
I'm not sure what to do. Should I let the phone die, keep it off, and charge it while off till its 100%?
Or maybe my phone is approaching the situation it was a week ago...I constantly check the running apps and its the usual suspects, nothing crazy. I had to delete official facebook app because it almost ALWAYS lagged and oftentimes force closed.
It says cell standby is using 40%, wi-fi using about 22%, voice calls 17%, phone idle 15%, and dialer 14%
What happened to my phone? Why is it such a clusterf*ck lately? Any ideas/advice?

Are you leaving wifi on because that will really suck the battery down? Also do you live in an area with bad signal? Put it in airplane mode and see if the battery still discharges as fast.
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Are you leaving wifi on because that will really suck the battery down? Also do you live in an area with bad signal? Put it in airplane mode and see if the battery still discharges as fast.
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My r800x dies in 6 hours whether it's on airplane mode or not. I've re calibrated the battery like 5 times so far, and it just won't get better. I'm regretting moving to verizon to this. I should just get a sim card and go back to my HTC Inspire. I can leave the r800x in idle with the screen off, while in airplane mode and it will still die in 6 hours. It doesn't even last a whole day of work. Mine's also rooted. I need some serious help with this phone.

Turn off wifi.
If you have it on it will search for wifi networks all of the time (unless you're home and connected to your own wifi) and it will suck your battery dry.

I don't even use wifi. I don't have access to the router at home, and my data is turned off when I'm not using it.

Perhaps you have a bad battery? Maybe replacing that will solve the issue.

It could be. Every time I try to check my battery's health, no matter what app I use, or even if I do it from the service menu it reads at "unknown". One app says that my phone doesn't even have a battery stat service, or something along those lines. I was considering just buying one of those mugen batteries for my phone, considering that I brought the issue to verizon's attention, and they told me they were gonna send me a replacement battery, but I never got it. This was all about 2 months ago though.

wow, sounds bad. mine will last all day, its an r800x on 2.3.3 as well but i can use it like normal, play about a hour of games on it, talk on it a lot, use wifi and 3g and do some average surfing and it will last at least 24-30 hours...
i'm thinking it must be a bad battery as well

Im running 2.3.3 verizon from the FTF and my r800x would last almost 3days, and thats with texting/talking/surfing using 3g and playing a shyt load of sonic . I would replace the battery with a genuine Sony replacement, dont ever buy a ebay knock off ! Furthermore, I don't believe apps that check your battery health are accurate at all, so dont waste your time.
Best way to check (imo) - Before you charge it up, let it go to 0% and die. Boot recovery and wipe the battery stats, turn the phone on and charge to full. After its fully charged, let it sit 10-15 mins on charge. Then pull of the charge and use normally, if it still dies fast, replace the battery.
If this idea was already posted sorry for double post

How do I go into recovery? My boot loader is still locked. As much as I want to unlock it to put abc xperia play rom on, I don't want to pay 25 bucks.
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How do I go into recovery? My boot loader is still locked. As much as I want to unlock it to put abc xperia play rom on, I don't want to pay 25 bucks.
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You cannot boot into recovery without an unlocked bootloader
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I swapped mine out for similar issues. The replacement doesn't have the same issues yet but I haven't put a single app on it. I can't say that adding apps caused it before because I remember it similarly not getting anywhere when charging while using. I also experienced it dropping while charging but it turned out to be a that the MTP device wasn't starting on the PC so it showed as plugged in and charging even though it wasn't (check the Device Manager). My Alienware M11x actually supports charging devices off that particular USB port when it is turned off so it was a bit hard to figure out when it seemed to charge some times and not others.

So I got a new battery. Battery life oz still terrible, phone still can't detect battery health.
Not sure why, but my battery voltages are higher than 3.6 :/
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Hate to tell you but it sounds like your Play is defective.
The only way it would always get hot like that is if it was always running, that would be mainly driven by being in a REALLY bad service area that its always searching. I have a boatload of games etc on mine and my battery life varies from 2 days to 3/4 of a day depending where I am. Heck my battery life varies as to whether I leave my phone on my desk at work or on the shelf above me (lasts longer on the shelf).
But the fact you said that even in airplane mode it eats the battery, and a new battery didn't do the trick. I would say you got a bad one. Still under warranty I hope?

i'm not entirely sure. I got mine through verizon in august or september of this year. Not sure if Verizon would handle replacing it, since I didn't buy their extended warranty. I read somewhere that SE themselves can handle it since it's not a year old yet, but my phone is kinda required for work.