I heard the standby time on this phone is awesome.
When I got it, the standby time was terrible!
How can I improve battery life?
What am I missing?
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This is my experiance.
When I bought the phone...first 3 times I fully discharged my battery and charge it over night when he was off. 3 times like that, one kind of "formating" battery process.
Now with stock ROM 1.66 WWE EastEurope...5-6 programs and 3 games,with normal use I can used him 48h, with full use of everything...24h.
In standbye over night 1%/3h dropps down...
Smartmob said:
This is my experiance.
When I bought the phone...first 3 times I fully discharged my battery and charge it over night when he was off. 3 times like that, one kind of "formating" battery process.
Now with stock ROM 1.66 WWE EastEurope...5-6 programs and 3 games,with normal use I can used him 48h, with full use of everything...24h.
In standbye over night 1%/3h dropps down...
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hey thanks! I'll try that. so just let the battery die then charge it up again and repeat?
Do a search. I average about 2.5 days of moderate use.
please don't let your battery die.
Li_ion batteries doesn't suffer from memory loss, so there is no reason to let it discharge fully. let it get low like 3-5%.
but besides that, conditioning of the battery is important on a new battery.
if you flash a new ROM, it is also important to go through cycles before it configured the correct battery capacity.
i got it a couple of days ago as well, and standby time is very impressive. batteryrarely drops over-night.
the problem is during the day with heavy usage...
rickyoon.vegas said:
please don't let your battery die.
Li_ion batteries doesn't suffer from memory loss, so there is no reason to let it discharge fully. let it get low like 3-5%.
but besides that, conditioning of the battery is important on a new battery.
if you flash a new ROM, it is also important to go through cycles before it configured the correct battery capacity.
i got it a couple of days ago as well, and standby time is very impressive. batteryrarely drops over-night.
the problem is during the day with heavy usage...
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last night I let it go down to 6% and then powered off.
Then I charged to 100% overnight and I think the life today is better than normal.
I've played a little tekken and I still have 4 filled in battery slots!
Turn off push email and limit anything that updates automatically (weather, facebook info etc..) I went from 1 day to 3 days just by doing that.
johncmolyneux said:
Turn off push email and limit anything that updates automatically (weather, facebook info etc..) I went from 1 day to 3 days just by doing that.
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oh wow. so if I turn these things that update automatically, can I still hit update now?
I do that now anyway!
Yes...you can always hit "Update now" when you wanna se any new update.
Today...i phoned for cca 3min, send & recieve 20SMS, 20min playing with device...and my battery drops on 85% now...from 8h in the morning...thats in 14h 15%
Is it possible to make maybe that it won't update weather at night?
hiddengopher said:
oh wow. so if I turn these things that update automatically, can I still hit update now?
I do that now anyway!
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As smartmob says, yes. I did it like that for a few days but ended up switching most things back on (email accounts, weather, ms myphone etc.), but with longer intervals between things.
I was suprised how much of a difference turning off these things made to be honest. Turns out that my telling off from O2 (1.2GB of data in a week ) was a blessing in disguise
Smartmob said:
This is my experiance.
When I bought the phone...first 3 times I fully discharged my battery and charge it over night when he was off. 3 times like that, one kind of "formating" battery process.
Now with stock ROM 1.66 WWE EastEurope...5-6 programs and 3 games,with normal use I can used him 48h, with full use of everything...24h.
In standbye over night 1%/3h dropps down...
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where did u get 1.66 wwe east europe stock rom its not out yet
Hmm, so having read up on some posts claiming that battery life steadily improves with the HD2, I've been patient since Wed (when I got the phone, TMOUS HD2), but my battery life is still horrific. I've got every auto update off, besides weather and email every half hour. I've adjusted every other option I could think of that would drain the battery, and yet, I'm experiencing at best, a 6-7 hour usage with NO web browsing, 2-3 calls, and about 10 texts. In standby alone, my phone is dropping 2-3% every half hour it seems. Also, I've made sure that no superfluous programs are running in the background via taskmanager. Now I've read that others have had poor battery life too, but my case seems pretty bad, and don't see hope that the battery will improve much beyond this. Is it possible that my phone is faulty or that my battery's faulty? or perhaps even both?
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Hmm, so having read up on some posts claiming that battery life steadily improves with the HD2, I've been patient since Wed (when I got the phone, TMOUS HD2), but my battery life is still horrific. I've got every auto update off, besides weather and email every half hour. I've adjusted every other option I could think of that would drain the battery, and yet, I'm experiencing at best, a 6-7 hour usage with NO web browsing, 2-3 calls, and about 10 texts. In standby alone, my phone is dropping 2-3% every half hour it seems. Also, I've made sure that no superfluous programs are running in the background via taskmanager. Now I've read that others have had poor battery life too, but my case seems pretty bad, and don't see hope that the battery will improve much beyond this. Is it possible that my phone is faulty or that my battery's faulty? or perhaps even both?
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There's obviously something wrong somewhere, isn't there!
Perhaps it may be a good idea to try a different battery. It obviously means buying a new one (and not some cheap crap off ebay either!), but it's an easier option than sending your lovely new phone away for repair.
same here
especially coming from a nexus one, since day 1 i have tried all of these solutions and no success.. i did a hard reset as well just to see if that had anything to do with it and it didnt..
im at 40% and i have had the phone for 6 hours and a half, i literally sent 10 texts and called 2 people for a total of 20 minutes.. really strange..
i wish these smartphones had bb battery lives lol, but then again my bb didnt really have a huge screen or touchscreens
yeah if I can't figure out what's causing the issue, I might just go ahead and get my HD2 exchanged for a new one since I'm still within the 14 day return period for Tmobile. Too bad I already applied my screen protector! What a waste...
joefosho315 said:
Hmm, so having read up on some posts claiming that battery life steadily improves with the HD2, I've been patient since Wed (when I got the phone, TMOUS HD2), but my battery life is still horrific. I've got every auto update off, besides weather and email every half hour. I've adjusted every other option I could think of that would drain the battery, and yet, I'm experiencing at best, a 6-7 hour usage with NO web browsing, 2-3 calls, and about 10 texts. In standby alone, my phone is dropping 2-3% every half hour it seems. Also, I've made sure that no superfluous programs are running in the background via taskmanager. Now I've read that others have had poor battery life too, but my case seems pretty bad, and don't see hope that the battery will improve much beyond this. Is it possible that my phone is faulty or that my battery's faulty? or perhaps even both?
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Maybe you can try using with no sd card. Some people found out that one faulty mp3 may cause such issue. Have a look at the topic 'Extreme battery usage with non-official ROMs' under HD2 ROM Development section.
I wanted to post a link for this topic but I cannot post link due to some restrictions.
Interesting, thanks for the heads up. The thing is, I've only been running the stock factory ROM, and I haven't even uploaded any MP3's onto the device either. Anyhow, I'll give a read through and take my SD card out now to see if it helps!
funky26cro said:
where did u get 1.66 wwe east europe stock rom its not out yet
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Evo, ovdje klikni na prvi link i u folderu 1.66 ćeš naći i EastEurope Nije službeno izašao...ali ga ima ovdje...neznam kako ali ima, ja ga instalirao i kao svaki drugi stock ROM je.
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Here, click on this link and find it in 1.66 folder. Its not officily out, but its here. I install it normaly like every other stock ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577717
johncmolyneux said:
There's obviously something wrong somewhere, isn't there!
Perhaps it may be a good idea to try a different battery. It obviously means buying a new one (and not some cheap crap off ebay either!), but it's an easier option than sending your lovely new phone away for repair.
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I'm beginning to think there's something faulty with the TMO-US HD2's.
We should do some testing...
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There is a problem with our battery life and we all know its true... I have even been given a new battery and HTC mains charger
I turn off any service im not using at the time (ie: wifi, BT, GPS, NETGPS,etc) not that I should have to do this, but lets story on track...
My battery will make about 1 day as I am A "power user" but if its not plugged in I wont have the juice for my alarm to wake me up, my wifes Sony Ericsson lasts 4-5 days per charge, but lets not compare apples and oranges, the whi-phone 3g my sister has sahe bought it about the same times as my g1, she hadn't ever heard of "deep cycling" 2-5 times when you get a new phone, she never lets it discharge fully and just tops off all the time, AFAIK she is treating a NIMH cell exactly the wrong way, BUT SHE GETS 1-3 DAYS depending on the type of use, and never turns off ANY of the 3g, gps, net gps, wifi, BT nada and Id say she uses hers alot because its her primary camera, GPS & A/V player
my question is WHY?
Im sure there must be somebody involved with the development of this phone/OS that reads thru here, since there is more exciting stuff coming from XDA than there is the market...
Im gonna add a poll that pertains to battery use...
I wanted to add one very negative one but hit submit not preview, maybe just post and dont vote if none apply..
they better come off a new battery almost all other new phones will get 1-2 day + average use, Ive had phones that could go 3-4. but the state of the art G1 mindblowing innovative phone wont even work a whole day, so what if its bigger than the whi-phone, it has no keyboard.
I for one would like to hear some solid info on a replacement battery and back, for new and existing G1 users, early adopters got the fuzzy end of the lollipop on the HTC->headphone jack adapter I got the headphones with the htc angled adapter from fleabay, so many manufactures stick it to the early adopter, when we are the ones that get the word of mouth going, as people go "WOW that thing is cool!,what is it?! they know when we bought out phones and should be able to figure out when the head phone rev change was made, so send them to the first of the buyers....
IF the battery issue isnt fixed, alot of people will be very angry and the g1 will flop.
I think the bad press is starting to out weigh the good press the G1 and possibly android as a whole is at a crossroad. If the g1 tanks Android will be stained forever...thankfully enuff I dont think XDA-DEV would give up on this badboy, I love this thing, and I love it for what it can be
BhanG
Well stated sir.
HTC/Google need to fix battery problems in G1. Maybe it's soft bug, but maybe it's a hardware bug - Nobody knows
I dunno. With normal use, I get about 12 hours or more from my stock battery. That's about the same as other HTC phones I've had.
there is a battery issue and we are al aware of it.
i have managed to have it last through out the day
just set the brightness to the lowest possible, sleep time to 15 secs
turn off data and wifi and anything else that you are not using
its not how the phone was intended to be used, but it's what i ave to do for now
I find it fine for everyday use. Of course I haven't done a full test but maybe tomorrow I will.
I would like to use my G1 like I use my WinMo but no way I can with the battery.
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IF the battery issue isnt fixed, alot of people will be very angry and the g1 will flop.
I think the bad press is starting to out weigh the good press the G1 and possibly android as a whole is at a crossroad. If the g1 tanks Android will be stained forever.
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I think you're exaggerating here a little bit. The battery life, while it got press at first, has faded from the limelight of android news for the general population. The G1 is already far from a flop and I don’t think there’s going to be a sudden mass return of all the handsets sold.
Let’s face it living on the cutting edge means you will get cut sometimes. Your high expectations will not always be met and manufacturers will frequently not care. The battery life is less than what many people expected, but we’ve learned to deal with it. At least we have options (power management, backup batteries, and expanded capacity batteries), but I’d not hold my breath on HTC making any major moves. How long has the issue been going with the TYTN II drivers anyway?
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BUT SHE GETS 1-3 DAYS depending on the type of use, and never turns off ANY of the 3g, gps, net gps, wifi, BT nada
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I have no idea what kind of use gets 1-3 days, but it certainly isn't 3G web browsing. Most iPhone 3G battery life tests clock 3G data use at about 3-5 hours. Based on my own usage of a friend's iPhone 3G, that seems to be about right. Coincidentally my G1 gets about 3-5 hours of 3G data use as well.
Frankly, from an engineer's point of view I have not seen any power drain tests conducted with enough rigor and variable control to be worthy of being called a truly scientific analysis. Even the best "battery life tests" out there aren't declaring what type of testing environment (los and distance to closest 3G tower), what background apps are installed, ambient temperature (which affects the battery discharge profile), etc. Without considering and removing these variables from the test, deviation could be as high as... well there's no fixing the percentage really. It's all just junk data.
I do notice after I installed Task Manager, to close out programs I am not using my battery life went up. There are a lot of un needed start up apps.
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There are a lot of un needed start up apps.
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Care to give some examples? Im curious to see what runs on startup that isnt needed.
QUOTE jashsu
I have no idea what kind of use gets 1-3 days, but it certainly isn't 3G web browsing. Most iPhone 3G battery life tests clock 3G data use at about 3-5 hours. Based on my own usage of a friend's iPhone 3G, that seems to be about right. Coincidentally my G1 gets about 3-5 hours of 3G data use as well.
Yep my friend has iphone and we did test last weekend, both went 3 hours and change then died. If i dont use internet and set timeout and brightness down plus use task manager mine will go as long as my dash. I personally dont care about the battery life, i have a computer, home charger and car charger and i drive for a living so if it gets low no biggie. In my opinion i dont see android going anywhere and i love the g1. Just like wm its gonna take time to get off the ground. To say its at a crossroads is ridiculous.
I am using ADP1.1 and yea if I am browsing the net with 3G for 3-5 hours straight I start seeing the battery go down. But from 100% to 0% takes me longer than 5 hours. I know because I like to lay in bed and don't care to come check my messages LOL
I bought a G1 last week and so far I have been really dissapointed. After having an elf and seeing other htc phones I was expecting big things from the G1.
I am now a week into ownership and after 5 full charge - discharge cycles I am managing to get 24 hours out of the phone with next to no use what so ever. If i check my emails and do 30 mins browsing the phone is dead in 6 or less.
The hardware is simply put 'very poor' my screen is wobbly and the back is loose, all this after just a week.
As for android, it is fantastic everything I expected (except hotmail support) and there is no way it is going to flop. Its just a shame that google and htc didn't wait until they had the right phone for the job.
Thats just my 10p worth!!
Dharkaron said:
Care to give some examples? Im curious to see what runs on startup that isnt needed.
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It all depends on what you have installed. for me the start up is. I beleve amazon does too, but I uninstalled that. But the first thing I do is go into task manager and kill everything. And only like two things auto start up. I really with HTC built in a x-button app for android. I loved the click x for close.
myFaves
messaging
voice dialer
calendar
Alarm clock
k-9
woot checker
tunewiki
gmail
Under light usage I get about 36 hours from full charge to shutdown. That's GPS on, Bluetooth on, Autosync on, periodically doing e-mail and web browsing.
Under heavy usage (Which is basically I listened to MP3s for 2 hours) it goes at least 17 hours before I plug it back in. I haven't tested but I'd bet it could go 20 or more.
That's as good as (or better) than I was getting on the Wizard/MDA.
I dunno if anyone has stated it but the problem with the battery has to do with the phone recieving the cell signal. For some reason the phone runs in overload when searching for a cell signal...I noticed this one day when T-Mo suspended my service and my battery meter never moved all day, I think by night it was down to 85-90%...sure enough that night when I paid my bill and the phone started picking up signal again, the battery depleted at "normal" speed.
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Preech2003 said:
This extended battery barely increases the size of the phone...
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so exactly how much is "barely"? care to give side by side comparison shots?
dubstar_04 said:
As for android, it is fantastic everything I expected (except hotmail support) and there is no way it is going to flop. Its just a shame that google and htc didn't wait until they had the right phone for the job.
Thats just my 10p worth!!
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Why do i keep hearing that there is no hotmail support? Android (and G1) works with hotmail just fine! Just go to the Email program and set it up. WHY!! .. I am having connection errors sometimes though..
Battery is a big issue. Never had any luck with it.. EVER.. just unplugged it and after about 1+ hour it's down to 66%. Played a game (slide puzzle) watched 2 youtube vids of about 3 minutes each. And I had it fully drained and recharged a couple of times in the beginning. It didn't even took 10 minutes to drop from 100% to 89%.. But I was on wifi.. Maybe this is normal.
Software has a lot to do with this I think. Yesterday I had about 50-60% left. Did something, can't remember what, opening programs or music. And closed it. After 5 minutes I checked and battery was hot and had drained to orange level. I checked with task manager and only calendar/messaging/tunewiki/music was on. I closed all and restarted the phone, cuz it was still hot. Luckily it lasted a few hours till I got home, with very carefull use..
im on my 3rd hero now. the first had dust, the second would not update the profile or provision. ive had my new one for 3 days now and the battery life is horrid, even with an extended 2000mAH battery. i had the phone fully charged this morning and within 2 hours without any use it was down to 93% while sleeping? i went ahead and disabled auto syncing, changed my yahoo email to sync at 1 hour intervals instead of every 10 minutes and uninstalled some apps to see if there is a difference. it's been off charge since 4am and now it's sitting at 80% with very light usage and no calls today. is this normal or should i notify sprint? by the way im using the pancake 1.5 rom, usually i had pretty decent battery life until now.
if it"s the phone i know i can know request another phone model since id be going on my 4th replacement, i love the hero but im tired of sprint and there problematic phones. ill request a new moment or a new tp2. worse comes to worse in may my wife and i will leave sprint and go to t-mobile, i hear they don't check credit there to activate new service.
any thoughts guys?
nevermind, I should do more reading before posting sometimes
Did you initially prep your battery by allowing it to fully discharge and recharge before relying on the battery indicator?
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Did you initially prep your battery by allowing it to fully discharge and recharge before relying on the battery indicator?
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the battery is like 2 months old, initially i did, yes. like i said this is my 3rd hero, my last one was running the same rom and the battery life was much better. damn sprint and their refurbished "new" phones.
I'm running ZenHero and I unplugged my phone at about 730 this morning..and as it sits right now im at 50% with syncing set to every hour
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im on my 3rd hero now. the first had dust, the second would not update the profile or provision. ive had my new one for 3 days now and the battery life is horrid, even with an extended 2000mAH battery. i had the phone fully charged this morning and within 2 hours without any use it was down to 93% while sleeping? i went ahead and disabled auto syncing, changed my yahoo email to sync at 1 hour intervals instead of every 10 minutes and uninstalled some apps to see if there is a difference. it's been off charge since 4am and now it's sitting at 80% with very light usage and no calls today. is this normal or should i notify sprint? by the way im using the pancake 1.5 rom, usually i had pretty decent battery life until now.
if it"s the phone i know i can know request another phone model since id be going on my 4th replacement, i love the hero but im tired of sprint and there problematic phones. ill request a new moment or a new tp2. worse comes to worse in may my wife and i will leave sprint and go to t-mobile, i hear they don't check credit there to activate new service.
any thoughts guys?
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You need to keep getting replacements until you find one that works fine. Also, the ROM you're running can contribute to battery. If you're on a Sprint leak rom, make sure to do the *#*#4636#*#* trick.
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I'm running ZenHero and I unplugged my phone at about 730 this morning..and as it sits right now im at 50% with syncing set to every hour
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well yeah the 2.1 roms have worse battery life, im running 1.5 without sense installed. not sure if it's a good comparison. im just trying to figure out if this is normal or if i should call sprint?
Check for common things like time without signal and awake time.
I have my email, twitter, fb, weather, etc. set to check fairly often and they seem to do little to battery life.
My phone comes off the charger at 7:15-7:30 am and is used as a music player for the majority of my 8-9 hours at work, I tend to send about 10-20 texts a day and spend about a half to hour on the phone, by the time I am heading out the battery is usually at 60% or so, some days it is lower some it is higher, right now at 3:45pm the battery is at 73%. On avg the battery is at about 30% when I go to bed at midnight.
Currently running Fresh 2.1d w/ lwp
smoother2010 said:
well yeah the 2.1 roms have worse battery life, im running 1.5 without sense installed. not sure if it's a good comparison. im just trying to figure out if this is normal or if i should call sprint?
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Ahh..ya my nandroid is 0.1 Pancake with sense and i usually get a full day and I'm at about 25-30%.
Honestly..you are better off with a hero. I came from a moment and a tp2 and neither were "my cup of tea". The moment is plagued with bad support from Samsung and the tp2 while a nice phone..I used it after coming from an android phone and was disappointed in what WM6.5 did not have when compared to Android.
HeroMeng said:
You need to keep getting replacements until you find one that works fine. Also, the ROM you're running can contribute to battery. If you're on a Sprint leak rom, make sure to do the *#*#4636#*#* trick.
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what trick?
I am running damage 2.0.7.2.8.1.57.5783.5468.4.∞
I was up at 7 this morning, unplugged it first thing- its 15 til 5 PM here now.
I am at ~80% with moderate use. Downloaded about 10 Apps from the market, constant emails coming in (gamil and exchange), facebook, texting, 3 or 4 phone calls.
Wait..you are at 80% after 12 hours? I'd say consider yourself lucky...I'm not at 12 hours yet and im below 50% with just texting.
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I am running damage 2.0.7.2.8.1.57.5783.5468.4.∞
I was up at 7 this morning, unplugged it first thing- its 15 til 5 PM here now.
I am at ~80% with moderate use. Downloaded about 10 Apps from the market, constant emails coming in (gamil and exchange), facebook, texting, 3 or 4 phone calls.
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good lord thats some nice performance there im assuming you get good reception?.....i unplug at 8am and i use my phone constantly at work texting browsing market, internet, prolly 20 mins worth of calls a day (ballpark) but by the time i get home at five im sittin at around 50-60%....im running matrix rom but its been about the same for all the newer 2.1 bulids TBH....i have two batterys because i hate being chained to a charger so aslong as i make it thru work im good and it surves its purpose
scriz said:
Wait..you are at 80% after 12 hours? I'd say consider yourself lucky...I'm not at 12 hours yet and im below 50% with just texting.
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yeah but it's draining when im not even using the phone at all today, not even texting. this is also on an extended battery. i guess ill call sprint, they told me this was a new phone and it's a refurb...got over 579 calls made under my settings and it says it's a refurb date of 1/10/10. they flat out told me my replacement would be brand new, my 2nd one was.
scriz said:
Wait..you are at 80% after 12 hours? I'd say consider yourself lucky...I'm not at 12 hours yet and im below 50% with just texting.
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Don't worry, as soon as I hit the interstate on the way home it'll drop 30% just durring the drive, I think I roam the whole drive home. Then when I get there I have full 3G....stupid cell towers.
Ok I know this has got to be a JOKE thread. You are just messing with us right? If my phone was at 80% after 12 hours of light use I would be writing HTC and Sprint telling them how awesome they are. Tell me your just pulling everyone's leg.
redram38 said:
Ok I know this has got to be a JOKE thread. You are just messing with us right? If my phone was at 80% after 12 hours of light use I would be writing HTC and Sprint telling them how awesome they are. Tell me your just pulling everyone's leg.
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no it's not a joke thread, im asking you guys. i had better battery life with my last hero. it drained 20% without any use today. im asking if that's normal on a 2000mAh battery?
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no it's not a joke thread, im asking you guys. i had better battery life with my last hero. it drained 20% without any use today. im asking if that's normal on a 2000mAh battery?
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Without any use my battery is at ~50% after 12 hours on a normal battery. I don't think theres anything wrong with the phone, other than them lying to you and saying it was new.
if its that andida battery, I wouldnt be surprised.....mine seemed to last longer , until it hit 50% then it dropped 1% every 90 seconds
smoother2010 said:
no it's not a joke thread, im asking you guys. i had better battery life with my last hero. it drained 20% without any use today. im asking if that's normal on a 2000mAh battery?
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I took my phone off the Charger at 6:30am and it's now 2:30pm i'm currently at 70% battery.
this is with around 500+ texts a couple phone calls checking of emails updating a couple of APPs and running Google Buzz
Firmware: 2.1-update1 (sprint 2.1 leak)
Baseband: 2.42.00.03.10
Build: 2.20.321.1 CL157175 test-keys
Software: 2.20.651.1
PRL: 60663
and made sure i did *#*#4636#*#* and made sure it was on CDMA auto PRL
and have "Use Wireless Networks" turned off
My battery made it to 1:00 o'clock today with the new 2.2 update that i did last night. It normally lasts till 11 - 12 at night. Whats up with that?
FYI - All the same apps,widgets, and settings
**UPDATE**
Doing a factory reset fixed the problem for me!!
opie2l said:
My battery made it to 1:00 o'clock today with the new 2.2 update that i did last night. It normally lasts till 11 - 12 at night. Whats up with that?
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Strange, I'm sitting at 75% after 5 hours off the charger and using it for moderate text usage (probably less than 80 messages today). Usually around this time it's sitting closer to 60%.
i have the .3 update and went from about 24 hours to about 8-10 hours. Battery life cut in half. My friend who has .3 is having same issue too. So much for increasing battery life.
formulabird said:
i have the .3 update and went from about 24 hours to about 8-10 hours. Battery life cut in half. My friend who has .3 is having same issue too. So much for increasing battery life.
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Wow. Have you searched the forum to see if anyone else has the same issue? If not I hope it's not an isolated incident. Then again if it's isolated maybe you can get support on it better...? Good luck finding a solution.
You gave us zero information to help you. So thus, you will not get any help.
There are about a billion threads on here about battery life and how to tweak it. When you flashed 2.2 you will need to do those steps again.
yeah some people are reporting bad battery life after update. most people i know are on .3. don't know if .6 fixes this hopefully we get update soon
I did a test last night. Dropped 13% between 1130 and 3:30am With wifi on (got up cause of baby), then only 10% between 330 and 8am with wifi off. So a drop of only 23% overnight.
That's with one exchange account, one gmail account (both syncing as items arrive), htc news set to not sync, but newsdesk and feedr both syncing. Facebook for htc set to sync contacts only.
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I had the same issue on all 2.2 ROMs I tried.. i am now going through the apps one at a time to see which one is the issue.
right now I am 7 hours in and sitting at 75% very light use ( read about 7 emails, 5 new articles and little to no Web surfing). installed 10s so far other than the standard with Fresh latest ROM that is.
I've actually had very good battery life, I'm running the .3 release. Battery life for me has been very comparable to running Baked Snack 9.6, with its underclocking/undervolting power save features. Moderate use of the phone for 8 hours (wifi, browsing websites here and there, one navigation route, texting, bunch of short phone calls, playing some games), my battery was around 65 or so, same as I had before for similar usage.
I did do a full wipe though, and haven't calibrated my battery since updating.
Aridon said:
You gave us zero information to help you. So thus, you will not get any help.
There are about a billion threads on here about battery life and how to tweak it. When you flashed 2.2 you will need to do those steps again.
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I am just stating a observation on my part. And i know all the little tricks of how to get better battery life. But like i said, before the update i was getting a full day of battery and now after the update i am getting half. With the same settings and the usage on my part.
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I am just stating a observation on my part. And i know all the little tricks of how to get better battery life. But like i said, before the update i was getting a full day of battery and now after the update i am getting half. With the same settings and the usage on my part.
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maybe because some of the htc sync stuff that you might have disabled before re-enabled.
Check that.
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diomark said:
maybe because some of the htc sync stuff that you might have disabled before re-enabled.
Check that.
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Yeah, i already went through all the settings last night.
Aridon said:
You gave us zero information to help you. So thus, you will not get any help.
There are about a billion threads on here about battery life and how to tweak it. When you flashed 2.2 you will need to do those steps again.
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This is not directed at you personally, but at the words you chose to use:
I am sick and tired of "tweaks and settings and cutting things off." I used them and got over 30 hours on both DamageControl and Fresh.
I paid Sprint/HTC good money for this awesome phone (and am committed to pay them a whole lot more over the course of the next 22 months).
While I can understand the 4G thing, why should I have to cut off Data-WiFi-Bluetooth, power down the CPU, not use it a lot in order to get... in short, drive it like a Toyota Prius when then phone is billed as a Maserati? Why should I have to try out this app and that app(Overclock widget, SetCPU, System Manager, Task Killer, Autostarts etc which all use battery too) in order to get the phone to do what it should have done on June 4, 2010?
Most of the battery draining apps and widgets come pre-loaded with sense (i.e. the Favorite widget, Friendstream etc). Why should I have to resort to rooting my phone or not using it in order to get the thing to last all day?
I'm keeping my EVO cause I love the device, but maybe Sprint/HTC need a little of the medicine that Jobs/Apple is getting in the form of lawsuits due to over-promising/under-delivering.
/off_my_soap_box
You should send that rant to HTC and Sprint... I think we all stand behind you on that one.
there are lots of reasons a battery might not last. there are way to many tweaks out there which is why you have to do it yourself.
First set the phone up like you normally have it and test the battery life. if you can live with it your good. if not start looking at the settings. Read the tweaks but don't just take them as golden as everyone is different and uses their phone different. Ask yourself if you real need that setting. (I like my screen time out at 2 min. do I need it NO 1 min is fine). When done with the settings move to the apps. load the flat ROM no apps and run for a hour and track your battery life. then add the apps 1 at a time or in small groups and let run an hour and track. there are was if find what apps are using the CPU or Battery but many do this normally and yet don't effect the battery much. Only way i have found is old school add them one at a time. When you find a bad one decide if you need it or can find a replacement.
I am done with Sense as Launcher Pro Plus is awesome and now with the only Widget I was missing (Calendar). Once I done going through my app list I will create a new thread in General to list the bad application I found unless someone else has or does before I done that is.
From what I have gathered from using .3 that apps auto sync/update on their own now with "always on mobile data" turned off. if you use advanced task killer, do a kill of all apps then turn the screen off. If you wait for a few minutes and turn the screen back on you will notice that apps like news, messages, Twitter, Facebook clock, weather and others will be active. From what I gather the decrease in battery life is from apps like those will send/receive data on 2.2 while on 2.1 apps would not update/sync until you manually refreshed or opened the app, as long as you didn't have "always on mobile data" enabled.
Edit: this reason is why I uninstalled fring. Just too bad I cannot uninstalled qik.
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This is not directed at you personally, but at the words you chose to use:
I am sick and tired of "tweaks and settings and cutting things off." I used them and got over 30 hours on both DamageControl and Fresh.
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It is a mini-computer. You don't use it like a "phone" anymore. You shouldn't expect more than 15-20 hours on it. Do you get angry when your laptop runs out of life after 5-6 hours? If you don't want to do tweaks, then don't. Keep a micro-USB at your desk at work and charge it there. I, myself, enjoy rooting so I don't mind tweaking it. I also get 30 hours of life on it due to this. If you don't like to do that, you get what you put into it.
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I paid Sprint/HTC good money for this awesome phone (and am committed to pay them a whole lot more over the course of the next 22 months).
While I can understand the 4G thing, why should I have to cut off Data-WiFi-Bluetooth, power down the CPU, not use it a lot in order to get... in short, drive it like a Toyota Prius when then phone is billed as a Maserati? Why should I have to try out this app and that app(Overclock widget, SetCPU, System Manager, Task Killer, Autostarts etc which all use battery too) in order to get the phone to do what it should have done on June 4, 2010?
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Again, you have unrealistic expectations for a smart phone it seems. All I have is Set CPU running on my phone with Fresh 3.0.1 and works just fine. I still use my phone like a "Maserati", it just lowers the CPU when the screen is powered off. That is like saying you want your car to idle when you get home at night until the next morning. It doesn't change how you drive it, just how you store it in the garage.
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Most of the battery draining apps and widgets come pre-loaded with sense (i.e. the Favorite widget, Friendstream etc). Why should I have to resort to rooting my phone or not using it in order to get the thing to last all day?
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You don't have to use them though. You can remove friendstream and go with either the twitter or FB update app or go without either and just check facebook like anyone else. As far as favorites go, you don't have to use that either. You can just make shortcuts to each person's phone number on that same screen if you think that is sucking all your battery life. There are always other options or fixes, but again you expect the phone to come out of the box perfect without any customization. You are getting away from what Android really is. Something tells me the Iphone would have been more your liking since it is built around lack of true customization. This isn't a rip, but just saying if you want cookie cutter phone reliability, it is hard to beat Apple. If you want the ability to tinker with the phone, the power to change things, and the power to make your phone yours, then that is more Android.
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I'm keeping my EVO cause I love the device, but maybe Sprint/HTC need a little of the medicine that Jobs/Apple is getting in the form of lawsuits due to over-promising/under-delivering.
/off_my_soap_box
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I can understand your frustration, but nothing was ever promised to us on purchase. I don't remember anywhere seeing something saying the battery would last 30+ hours out of the box. Apple had an actual structural issue with their phone, that is why they had the lawsuits and PR nightmare. This is just the phone doing what most would probably expect(at least anyone who had a G1 or Hero or any of the earlier Android phones). You love the device enough to keep it even with your frustration, something tells me it works quite well for you. But I have yet to see any over-promising/under-delivering on the Evo myself.
And no, I don't work for Sprint or HTC. And no offense meant to you as a person, just I didn't understand your motives on your frustration. Guess we will have different opinions on the Evo so far.
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maybe because some of the htc sync stuff that you might have disabled before re-enabled.
Check that.
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I had the same battery problem after updating to 2.2. After 3 hours my battery was at 50%. Normally it'd be at 50% after 9 to 10 hours of usage.
I did find that some settings had been reset. Once I turned off all the crap syncing, gtalk logging in, Sprint Zone, etc my battery usage has seemed to flatten out.
I made it an hour and only dropped 2% which is much more like it. This is all with very little usage going on.
Buy a new battery! Best solution!
No joda!
Sent from my EVO!
very funny just pluged my phone in using flipz newest after 19 hours
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One of the vital issues of the SE x10 is its battery life, i personally have to charge it once a day under normal use(10mins of browsing, messaging, phonecalls) while my older phones under heavy use lasted over 4 days.
Lets compile a list of remedies to improve battery life, every little bit helps.
Mine are:
Keep charger in my pocket
Close all apps before idleing the phone
Turn off everything wireless exept 2G
Prevent using the latest facebook app(Hogs the battery empty FAST)
I set the CPU's clock at 700/250mhz max min respectively
What are yours?
Use the phone as a phone. Don't carry around the charger, don't use any appkillers or CPU things, never ever turn off 3G, never ever turn off GPS...
I use the Facebook application a little too frequently, I read stuff using the Digg and Engadget apps, update Twitter via Twicca, listen to music via Mediascape, and take several photos.
Oh, and I charge the phone once every couple of days.
Since the last 026 update i have noticed a huge improvement, now lasts ffor about a day and half where used to last about 8 hours. I've stopped using taskkillers now apart from when i've finished playing a big game like need for speed which uses a LOT of ram. Looking forward to the 2.1 update.
Also, i got the 2600ma battery from ebay, bigger, but lasts nearly 2 days!
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i always cut my web connection and i use taskiller
and my phone lasts also 2 days, but i have the original battery in it
SetCPU is a big help. At the very least throttle your battery when the screen is off.
I just use Data On Demand. No task killers, no startup manager, no root. Firm 026. Bluetooth and 3g on, and my batery (original) last 2 days at least.
Via Tapatalk
Get the recent firmware.
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Sounds almost like the kind of solution Apple would give to fix poor reception...
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/07/1...ntenna-issues-advises-carrying-a-spare-phone/
Personally I resolve my battery issue by only turning it on when people want to call me. I've set up a roster with precise times when I'm available for contact. Callers must contact me within a select 5 min window otherwise they must wait until the next one. These are seperated by 2hr hour 'no call' times, as well as a complete call 'blackout' between the hours of 10pm and 6am. If I want to call people, I keep 50c in my pocket and use a payphone.
So far my battery has lasted 8 weeks.
k1sr said:
Sounds almost like the kind of solution Apple would give to fix poor reception...
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/07/1...ntenna-issues-advises-carrying-a-spare-phone/
Personally I resolve my battery issue by only turning it on when people want to call me. I've set up a roster with precise times when I'm available for contact. Callers must contact me within a select 5 min window otherwise they must wait until the next one. These are seperated by 2hr hour 'no call' times, as well as a complete call 'blackout' between the hours of 10pm and 6am. If I want to call people, I keep 50c in my pocket and use a payphone.
So far my battery has lasted 8 weeks.
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my problem is that im a frequent user, my total call time per day reaches over 3hours and i text alot
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my problem is that im a frequent user, my total call time per day reaches over 3hours and i text alot
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That's a lot...!
3 hours of talk time a day on ANY smartphone is going to drain the battery. I dont think there is a huge amount you can do really. Sounds like you have done all the sensible things already.
That being said, i am on a RB..26 FW, Rooted with ADW Launcher. I get about 2 days from a charge, using FB app all day long, a few calls a day, several msgs and general playing around with the phone. i dont run any task killers, cpu management tools or even disable 3g connections. maybe i just have a good one
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Sounds almost like the kind of solution Apple would give to fix poor reception...
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/07/1...ntenna-issues-advises-carrying-a-spare-phone/
Personally I resolve my battery issue by only turning it on when people want to call me. I've set up a roster with precise times when I'm available for contact. Callers must contact me within a select 5 min window otherwise they must wait until the next one. These are seperated by 2hr hour 'no call' times, as well as a complete call 'blackout' between the hours of 10pm and 6am. If I want to call people, I keep 50c in my pocket and use a payphone.
So far my battery has lasted 8 weeks.
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LOL!! better than any battery saving app.
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3 hours of talk time a day on ANY smartphone is going to drain the battery. I dont think there is a huge amount you can do really. Sounds like you have done all the sensible things already.
That being said, i am on a RB..26 FW, Rooted with ADW Launcher. I get about 2 days from a charge, using FB app all day long, a few calls a day, several msgs and general playing around with the phone. i dont run any task killers, cpu management tools or even disable 3g connections. maybe i just have a good one
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Do you reckon rooting helps...?
I'm on 26FW too (actually, that's a lie, I just checked, and am on 24)... but anyway, I also use ADW and am on an Australian network, so all thing being equal, I should be getting similar... although I only get about a day and a half... Well, I usually put my phone on charge every night, and it's about 50-60%, but obviously the drain over night would take it a little too low for me to go another full day...
I just bought setcpu from the market. First day with it and juice defender (lite) running it's drained 16% in 12 hours.
Previously, i would be at 40 - 50 % by now.
Of course, you need root for this solution.
Running 020 firmware as i haven't got around to backing up and updating as yet.
Punnisher_42 said:
I just bought setcpu from the market. First day with it and juice defender (lite) running it's drained 16% in 12 hours.
Previously, i would be at 40 - 50 % by now.
Of course, you need root for this solution.
Running 020 firmware as i haven't got around to backing up and updating as yet.
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So which fixed it then?
You need to make a single change and observe
I used setCPU too, but i had problems with it.
Every 2nd time when i activated my screen and went passed lockscreen, my launcher was forced to a close.
This procedur has been with differents launcher like ADW, GDE, default launcher.
regards DauL
Does rooting help the battery life alone without any apps? And how?
I went ahead and got the Muegen 1800 battery and im now running generic 026 FW. I fully charged my phone two days ago and I use it quite a bit while at work and what not and this morning I have 26% still remaining. Not saying you should go out and buy one of these batteries but ive noticed a definite improvement.
I charge twice a day. Heavy data use and I need my screen bright as lot if it is out of doors. Rooted 026, with setcpu. About, 66% of my drain is the LCD. My GF with her iPhone 4 gets about 36 hours and she hammers it more than me- never turns any radios off either. Grrr... drives me nuts when i have to jump through hoops to get back home from work without a dead phone. Incidentally, what moron put the charge socket on top? Means we will never have a dock we can just drop it in when not carrying the damn thing /facepalm...
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consolation said:
... Incidentally, what moron put the charge socket on top? Means we will never have a dock we can just drop it in when not carrying the damn thing /facepalm...
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Did SE ever make one for their previous models? That would have been a cool option.
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I wouldn't even say I use my phone frequently. When I used the miui or however it's spelt rom I would have 60 percent to 30 remaining each day. On gingerbread? I'm down to 15 percent every day and every night my phone has shut off due to lack of battery.
Isn't there any rom with excellent battery life? That's all I want, I use my phone for tethering.
i put CM7-RC2 on my device yesterday and it's the best battery life i've ever gotten.
Gb battery life owns, u got something else going on
No he doesn't, i've measured religiously since the original nexus shipments and this is by far the worst
My battery was really bad but now it seems to last me 10hrs & up which is weird for a phone to last me that long. I really think theirs an app or bug running the battery crazy I don't use any task managers. Their was a thread somewhere saying to run your phone on recovery mode and to press on the reboot/restart and battery get better I did that so maybe it does work but I highly doubt it.
I can vouch for poor battery too. I am on CM7 RC2 and I can't even make it through a day with light use. By light use, I mean practally not using the phone at all.
My battery life seems to be better than ever. Some 10-20 percentage units more left in the evenings all down the line.
Edit: Stock GB, no task managers.
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My battery life seems to be better than ever. Some 10-20 percentage units more left in the evenings all down the line.
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I agree. Gingerbread has been nothing short of AMAZING for my battery life. The battery life is so good now that I stopped using my spare battery altogether!
Macmee said:
I wouldn't even say I use my phone frequently. When I used the miui or however it's spelt rom I would have 60 percent to 30 remaining each day. On gingerbread? I'm down to 15 percent every day and every night my phone has shut off due to lack of battery.
Isn't there any rom with excellent battery life? That's all I want, I use my phone for tethering.
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Did you happen to do an Update or a full install when you got gingerbread?
Some suggest that it's due to the update process.. so you might want to try a full install:
http://android.clients.google.com/p...b119f8.signed-passion-ota-102588.656099b1.zip
Remember to wipe your cache first..
What i noticed is taht custom roms use more battery than stock rom. this is for me i don't say that it is like this for everyone. But with gigerbread i got the best battery life. i also think using apps from SD uses also a lot of battery life, but again i have no other choice to low on memory.
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I had the same problem. I am on stock gb.
Just set wifi sleep policy to never. It will last 2 days after that. It is definetly a bug.
Seems to be a real mixed bag with GB on N1's. Lots of people saying "better battery" many others, myself included, reporting much worse. For me, I experienced very poor battery life right from updating to the stock GB using the singned passion .zip file. Even did a factory reset, and only reinstalled my daily used apps and it made little difference, then I went back onto a MIUI rom for a few days and battery life was wonderful again.
Then early this week I flashed to CM7 RC2, and for two days battery life was the worst I've ever had.
Had been seeing a few comments on different forums of people who had the same problem swearing black and blue that after they changed the wifi sleep policy to "always on" their battery life improved dramatically on Gingerbread.
I know if sounds backwards, and that is why I was sceptical for ages, but last night I made the change to see if it would make a difference for me today and all I can say is WOW!!! Phone had a real test today as I started work really early. As of right now the phone has been off charge for 16 hours.
Half a dozen or more voice calls, minimal text, my usual wifi and 3g data, about 10 min of streaming video over wifi and about 1/2 hour in total running Navigation.
There is no way in hell my phone would have done all that and even lasted me 8 hours prior to changing the wifi sleep policy - so I think there is definitely something in it.
As for the ppl who aren't noticing bad battery, maybe they already had theirs set this way - or maybe it's an issue only effecting certain batches of devices (like the wifi reconnect issue which seemed to be pretty common pre froyo)
it /WAS/ terrible at first. Really, really dire, but it's back to what it used to be, even better now perhaps.
To the OP, do you have WIFI turned on still? I used to leave it turned on and it didn't ever knock down battery as it was going to sleep and not coming back, so wasn't a drain. GB appears to have fixed this, and it was staying on, thrashing the battery.
Turning it off and turning it on as needed only, battery life is now fine.
Do you have WIFI Turned on? Bluetooth? For now, to try and test what's happening, turn off 3g, wifi, bluetooth, automatic date/time sync, and JUST use it as a phone for a day. See what % you're at at the end of the day.
Then we can take it from there.
But I'd be pretty certain that it's wifi related, in that it's now working as it should be, we just got used to it being broken before.
My phone on cm7 rc2 has worse battery than I used to have with wildmonks kernel and cm6.1. Yesterday, the phone was barely used until 8 o'clock at night. It was at 45 percent. After an hour medium use, its gotten down to 23 so I had to plug in the phone....the easiest fix? Keep a charger In the car!
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Using stock Gingerbread and I can say that my battery life is decent, better than Froyo for sure. The phone lasts longer than 16 hours and I use bluetooth to listen to music for 1.5 hrs on my commute home. By the time I get home after a long day (8pm'ish), I still have about 20 to 30% left.
I have no wifi no bluetooth no gps and a dim screen.
Tis is seriously crappy battery life.
Does anyone think they can link me to a good miui rom. For me, it seems that gb just wont work.
I am running stock gb then i flashed the root and my boot loader is unlocked.
bohlool said:
I had the same problem. I am on stock gb.
Just set wifi sleep policy to never. It will last 2 days after that. It is definetly a bug.
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Listen to this person!
For some reason, since 2.3.3, if you have your Wifi policy to sleep when the screen is off, Android will rip through your battery. You'll notice Android OS taking all the battery on the status page.
Set the sleep policy to never and you get better battery life again. Turn off Wifi manually when you're not using it, even better. Until somebody fixes this bug, I guess it's the only workaround we've got.
More info: check issue 15057 on code.google.com - cant post link due to the newness of this account.
Same here on shorter battery life my nexus one as well post gingerbread ota... I will look into detailed system processes and try to find out why...
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bohlool said:
I had the same problem. I am on stock gb.
Just set wifi sleep policy to never. It will last 2 days after that. It is definetly a bug.
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Will give it a try on this, mine is set to turn off when screen is off.
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Log into latitude and log out. Every time there is a map update it defaults to being a battery draining monster. But in essence. Something to do with maps link to latitude (which i don't even use) breaks my phones battery life.