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Coming from an htc eris to droid 2 about a week ago now. And man these boards are QUIET compared to the eris's android development. Is this due to motorolas encryption skills or people just dont have this phone. Or maybe perhaps they just dont care?
Can anyone shed some light on this please?
It is from all the reasons you listed, many people don't have the phone because they chose the X over the droid 2 and the locked bootloader discourages developers from doing anything, I think motorola is making a wrong move in the market personally because less people is going to buy the phone because there are slim developing oppertunities
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setyourgoals said:
Coming from an htc eris to droid 2 about a week ago now. And man these boards are QUIET compared to the eris's android development. Is this due to motorolas encryption skills or people just dont have this phone. Or maybe perhaps they just dont care?
Can anyone shed some light on this please?
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I would say it is the lock bootloader. I am guessing that lots of people did not upgrade to Droid2 from Original Droid cause of the bootloader. I would still be on the OD if I dod not receive the D2 as a gift and would have not got it for myself because of the lock bootloader.
It's been slow recently but devs have overcome and done somethings that people didn't even think would happen, like Root and ROMs. We just need to be patient because our device is a bit of a challenge but I'm thankful for all of the people working to make this thing really rock!
Thats what i kind of figured it was ( the bootloader ). i don't really even think it's so much as people going with the droid x because even looking at their boards, its still quiet. yah they have a couple of "roms" (tranquility, focused) but not like the eris's kaos.froyo or any of the other completely re-done kernels.
Don't get me wrong i absolutely love this phone and do NOT miss my eris at all, but i just wish there was some interest from devs on this phone.
Oh well, i'll just keep checking the boards i guess.
There is interest from devs for this phone. It's just taking time for them to get past the problems. You don't see many posts yet because they are working on that. Once there are work arounds I'm sure the development will pick up.
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I'm new here obviously. A Linux user about to buy my first Android phone, likely a Fascinate. The development work going on here is central to that decision, because I only want a Fascinate if it will eventually have custom Froyo ROM's. If I pull the trigger, I'm locked into a 2year contract with this phone.
My holdback concern is that the phone may never see its full potential due to Samsung's delay in releasing 2.2, and the draw new phones on the market, like the the Continuum, Droid Pro, Nexus S, etc. may have on the dev's currently working on the Fascinate. The development team here is small, but mighty, and really can't afford to lose many key players.
My question is, At what point will those dev's give up on the Samsung Fascinate? If Froyo doesn't release until, say, January, will there be anybody around to save us from TouchWiz and Bing, lol?
The Continuum and Nexus S will have virtually the same hardware as the Galaxy S series, so I don't really see a lot of "pull" there. Sure, people will develop for those phones as well, but this one will still be plenty popular for some time yet. Remember that the Nexus S is likely not going to be on Verizon, and not everybody will like the ticker screen concept. Oh, and I don't see the Droid Pro as a threat in the least. It's more of an entry level device for Blackberry addicts. Oh, and I don't think we'll have to wait until after the first of the year for Froyo. I could be wrong, of course, but with Samsung starting to roll it out overseas, it shouldn't be too much longer.
One last thing. If you're concerned about contract lock in, just do what I did, which was renew with a 1 year contract, which actually allows you to upgrade every 10 months. I ordered my Fascinate exactly 10 months after buying my Eris (which was the day after the Fascinate was actually released; I smell a conspiracy), which I also got on a 1 year contract. The only catch is you pay $70 more for any phone on Verizon when choosing a 1 year renewal, so the phone would cost you $270 plus taxes. I would recommend buying it online from Verizon's website, to avoid the messy rebates.
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Salivating for Froyo is the most common post I have seen since [recently] joining this forum. I bought mine from best buy's free phone Friday event, for $0, signing a 2 year contract for $30 extra a month was an easy decision. The only things this phone is missing are a front camera (which the sprint epic has in addition to a qwerty that makes the phone a lot thicker than this one) and a dual core processor (which the droid pro has). I'm addicted to the look of this super amoled screen myself. Another thing to be aware of is the phone can be a little sluggish in finding GPS satellites out of the box.
So it's all about what your concerns are. I think it is worth knowing what you are getting into. I happen to love this phone and wish I bought it earlier
If you are waiting for another phone, the HTC Icredible Pro / mecha popped up in rumors tonight, but isn't likely to be on shelves immediately (not even expected this year), and you'll have to wait for root.
The Fascinate has a lot going for it. Galaxy phones are apparently making a big splash in Japan. The previous (wonderfully written) post also pointed out the compatible nexus s and continuum hardware. The Fascinate is also easily routed and readily Clockwork modded, with several roms already available including debinged browsing and voodoo lagfix.
The point being,most of what people want from Froyo can already be modded on this phone. The people I have seen posting here at XDA are also quite wonderful and inspire a lot of confidence.
(One thing I am hoping to get out of Froyo that I have not found yet is a way to do wifi calls while using a bluetooth headset as an audio source)
EDIT: I recall reading pre-release data that said the Droid Pro was going to be a dual core. Phonescoop lists the Droid 2 Global and Droid Pro as having 1.2 and 1 GHz TI OMAPs. My info was totally wrong. I read it incorrectly, and should not have posted unchecked information like that -- thanks for catching me.
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The Droid Pro doesn't have a dual-core processor
Answer is simple if any dev trully wanted to work on the phone they could've. A stock 2.1 was no where to be seen. Fascinate is not popular enough sadly.
So I'm. Jumpin ship. I have a brand new in box...ready to sell fascinate.
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Thanks for the info guys. I'm coming from Symbian on AT&T, so I'm going to miss Flash support until 2.2, but Verizon is a must have so Symbian is out. Re: Continuum, the ticker is nice but not worth the drop to 3.5"; dedicated camera button is a bigger pull. But the Fascinate is cheaper at $40 w/2year contract. A one year contract would be way better, but that's a big jump to $270 since I would have to buy from Verizon to get the 1year. Probably cheaper to pay the remaining ETF at 1 year, which I might do.
Original question still stands. As nice a ship as the Fascinate is, it will sink if the developers here jump off. I'm hesitant to come aboard if it looks like that might happen, and all the people jumping off are making me wonder.
Have you even looked in the development and themes forums? there is a lot of activity. There's even more that is just published directly to ROM Manager / IRC.
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One last thing. If you're concerned about contract lock in, just do what I did, which was renew with a 1 year contract, which actually allows you to upgrade every 10 months. I ordered my Fascinate exactly 10 months after buying my Eris (which was the day after the Fascinate was actually released; I smell a conspiracy), which I also got on a 1 year contract. The only catch is you pay $70 more for any phone on Verizon when choosing a 1 year renewal, so the phone would cost you $270 plus taxes. I would recommend buying it online from Verizon's website, to avoid the messy rebates.
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I did think about getting the one year contract too but finally decided against it. I would have to spend 270 now for the phone with a one year contract + about the same next year when I upgrade. So that's like 500+ out of my pocket. I can just buy a new phone next year with that money so its not like I'll save anything.
However the one year contract does give you the freedom to switch carriers.
Also, my logic applies only if you get the phone for free (BestBuy - free phone fridays, LetsTalk, etc.)
Just my 2 cents
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I'm new here obviously. A Linux user about to buy my first Android phone, likely a Fascinate. The development work going on here is central to that decision, because I only want a Fascinate if it will eventually have custom Froyo ROM's. If I pull the trigger, I'm locked into a 2year contract with this phone.
My holdback concern is that the phone may never see its full potential due to Samsung's delay in releasing 2.2, and the draw new phones on the market, like the the Continuum, Droid Pro, Nexus S, etc. may have on the dev's currently working on the Fascinate. The development team here is small, but mighty, and really can't afford to lose many key players.
My question is, At what point will those dev's give up on the Samsung Fascinate? If Froyo doesn't release until, say, January, will there be anybody around to save us from TouchWiz and Bing, lol?
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there are no true roms yet..... everything is touchwiz based!!!
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BingoDanny said:
Answer is simple if any dev trully wanted to work on the phone they could've. A stock 2.1 was no where to be seen. Fascinate is not popular enough sadly.
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Or, a simpler explanation is that nobody wants to waste time on 2.1 with 2.2 so close to release. I know I wouldn't if I was a dev. Tweaking the original Touchwiz ROM is relatively easy, so they're probably just playing around with it for right now. When we get a proper Froyo kernel and base ROM, then the real development will begin. There's probably more development on other US variants because they've been out longer. We're too close to the Froyo release to mess with Eclair very much anymore.
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there are no true roms yet..... everything is touchwiz based!!!
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If you can flash it in CWM, then it is a true ROM. If you think that the stock build is the same as running jt's Super-Clean or SonofSkywalker's Blackhole, then you really should try them. They are amazing.
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If you can flash it in CWM, then it is a true ROM. If you think that the stock build is the same as running jt's Super-Clean or SonofSkywalker's Blackhole, then you really should try them. They are amazing.
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Thumbs up to this. Blackhole is lightning fast.
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After receiving the fascinate on release day, I, along with all of you have been waiting patiently (ahem) for the Froyo drop. After watching these forums and trying to learn all I could, I tried every combination that has been modded or developed here to help satisfy the need for something better than stock. I wanted to thank all of you who have been working on different things to help make this phone better in the absence of OEM support. A lot of the things delivered did make the phone better, but I always kept having to load another work around to do something I was used to doing on my old droid 2. Today, after playing with a Droid X, I decided to go ahead and dump the fascinate in favor of the X. Perhaps a mistake, but for now, I don't think so....my empty anticipation has dissipated until I start wanting gingerbread on the X. From all of my hours of watching, reading and learning from you all, it seems like the support is just there from Moto and I've never felt that from Samsung. If things work out like they normally do for me, you should be getting Froyo tomorrow thanks to me getting rid of mine. This is my first post in XDA, as I usually spend my time searching and reading to learn from the experts and I wanted to take the chance to say thank you before I start spending my time in the droid threads.
paid full price for a dx??
Okay?
It'll probably be out soon you know.. lots of Galaxy S phones are getting one way or another now. Were bound to get an official release soon. Good luck with the DX.
As for paying full price.. I paid retail for my Fascinate. I had an OG Droid prior. I plan on purchasing all my phones straight up from here on out. Screw contracts..
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Hate to see you go. But thanks for the good wishes.
I dropped the fascinate for the incredible... hopefully it'll hold me over until my upgrade lol
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I dropped the fascinate for the incredible... hopefully it'll hold me over until my upgrade lol
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I did the same. Running gingerbread now. And to the op- how does a locked bootloader= support from motorola?
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I dropped the fascinate for the incredible... hopefully it'll hold me over until my upgrade lol
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I played with both the Fascinate and the Incredible while at best buy. The Fascinate just felt like a better phone to me when using both. I'm happy with my purchase. The Incredible is a great phone though, great dev community. Enjoy your phone!
The Incredible is a fantastic phone, with one fatal flaw: its absolutely terrible GPU. I had one after owning the Droid 1, right before the Fascinate came out, and while it was tempting to switch to the Fascinate in general once they announced its release date was inside my 30-day return period (better hardware specs all-around), the graphics performance was what absolutely cinched it.
I remember trying to run on the Incredible... I think it was Asphalt 5 (though this goes for plenty of other 3D-intensive games I can't specifically remember) and it was like playing a slideshow most of the time.
Meanwhile, the Droid 1, despite its almost half-speed CPU compared to the Incredible, was able to smoothly run any game I threw at it.
not me.
Not me,
I got the Fascinate for it's hardware....
When we do get Froyo, that will just add to it's goodness!!!
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cseeley said:
Not me,
I got the Fascinate for it's hardware....
When we do get Froyo, that will just add to it's goodness!!!
cseeley
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cseeley said:
Not me,
I got the Fascinate for it's hardware....
When we do get Froyo, that will just add to it's goodness!!!
cseeley
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Same here, the incredible was an option, but it is basically a redone droid eris. While decently powerful the fascinate was the better choice, even with 2.1.
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After receiving the fascinate on release day, I, along with all of you have been waiting patiently (ahem) for the Froyo drop. After watching these forums and trying to learn all I could, I tried every combination that has been modded or developed here to help satisfy the need for something better than stock. I wanted to thank all of you who have been working on different things to help make this phone better in the absence of OEM support. A lot of the things delivered did make the phone better, but I always kept having to load another work around to do something I was used to doing on my old droid 2. Today, after playing with a Droid X, I decided to go ahead and dump the fascinate in favor of the X. Perhaps a mistake, but for now, I don't think so....my empty anticipation has dissipated until I start wanting gingerbread on the X. From all of my hours of watching, reading and learning from you all, it seems like the support is just there from Moto and I've never felt that from Samsung. If things work out like they normally do for me, you should be getting Froyo tomorrow thanks to me getting rid of mine. This is my first post in XDA, as I usually spend my time searching and reading to learn from the experts and I wanted to take the chance to say thank you before I start spending my time in the droid threads.
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I totally respect your decision, but I imagine it will be one you regret. I think people forget that we have only been waiting for Froyo a little more than three months. The droid x waited this long also. Other phones have waited much longer for promised updates.
Btw: As someone already pointed out, you call a locked bootloader better support?
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Lol you impatient people.... i had froyo on my d1 as soon as it was ported. It wasn't that amazing. Good luck to you all
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Okay?
As for paying full price.. I paid retail for my Fascinate. I had an OG Droid prior. I plan on purchasing all my phones straight up from here on out. Screw contracts..
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I second this. I got my Fascinate from Craigslist and will never again buy a phone on contract.
As far as Froyo, if the update is half-assed (Droid Eris style), I'll be installing a nice clean Froyo rom the friendly neighborhood developers again.
The Froyo upgrade for the Droid 1 was actually pretty amazing performance-wise, but that's neither here nor there.
And the Droid X took a bit over two months to get Froyo. We've already been waiting three and a half months.
So while the Fascinate is a great phone as-is, from an objective point of view, the upgrade wait is unjustified and I feel buyers have every right to be disappointed -- especially when the manufacturer just launched a phone running 2.3.
I think the incredible is just a tad more than a re done fascinate. That's a little bit of a understatement. The dev community is flying on that phone.
Edit: flacyn. You are exactly right. I will agree locked bootloader doesn't mean no support. Just no support from modders. And launching a gingerbread phone while your flagship line sits on eclair is dissapointing.
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Ill give u $50 4 ur fascinate since u dont want it.
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I'll go as high as $51 because it doesn't have froyo.
good day.
me personally i dont plan on playing many games on this things other than like angry birds.. so the only hardware thats appealing is the screen...
I meant to say the incredible is a tad bit more than a re done Eris. Lol my bad.
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The Droid 2 is my first smartphone when it comes to android and such. I bought it in October and ever since I heard about rooting/kernels/ROMs I have really been wandering about my purchase. Looking at the incredible I heard there was so much more available to them and I really began wandering even more. So I was hoping I could get some of you to confirm my purchase was in fact a good one. Especially since even with the locked bootloader I can still do most of what I want to do that people with an unlocked bootloader can do.
the droid 2 i believe is just about technologically the same as the dinc, 1GHz processor, slightly faster gpu, same amount of RAM, but the droid 2 has a keyboard
also, if you look through the development thread for the D2, there are several roms available, and you can overclock the processor like you can with most android handsets, so you really arent missing out on much when it comes to modding the droid 2
I agree and think the Droid 2 is slightly better for various reasons. It is also my first Android smart phone.
I think unlike older droids (D1) the Droid 2 doesn't really need the speed increase an overclock can provide and ROMs don't need to change much because the devices have included more things we like.
This is kind of a parallel to the Xbox modding from the original to the 360. The original couldn't store games or connect with certain devices so people learned how to mod them (software or otherwise) and they became more usable to the user because they could now store more on the hard drive and be able to upgrade the Hard drive for more storage space. All of these things are included in the 360 which can still be modded (with difficulty and sometimes dire consequences) but it doesn't really need to because a lot of the functionality gained by modding the first xbox is already available on the new one.
Coming from the Eris... yes, I absolutely regret getting this locked bootloader crap phone. A little more research before I bought would've been a good thing. Still would have been hard to pass up buy 1 referb for 50$ and get a 2nd free though.
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Coming from the Eris... yes, I absolutely regret getting this locked bootloader crap phone. A little more research before I bought would've been a good thing. Still would have been hard to pass up buy 1 referb for 50$ and get a 2nd free though.
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Well I thank you for a response even if it was somewhat vague. What bothers you about the locked bootloader? We still have plenty of rom's. Can still overclock. Can still make backups. So instead of just saying the locked bootloader suxor, explain what makes you want a phone with an unlocked bootloader.
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I used to swap roms all the time. Now when you swap roms to one made by another developer its recomended you sbf first. I could get by with never plugging the eris in to a pc. I could run different kernels on whatever rom which was very nice. I really miss cyanogenmod and the lock screen gestures. There's a ton more activity in eris dev and a ton more roms to play with. Hell, already got 3 gingerbread roms out for the eris. The locked bootloader has really limited this phone. The only thing it has over the eris is more mem and its faster. Keyboards nice too I guess. Id be sooo much happier with another htc though.
If you care so much about the development on a phone, then you shouldn't really get a phone, seriously, that's not what phones are for. The rom selection for the droid 2 is just fine and you can already do everything on it that you can for most other phones, minus gingerbread. You should be glad that development isn't like what it is on the droid 2 global, with only one usable rom that hasn't been updated in over a month.
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youre right, I shouldnt have a phone. Thought this was a developer forum, my bad
Im not saying development is bad, im just saying that if you bought a phone for the development being made on the phone then its obvious your priorities aren't straight, im bummed that there isn't much development for the d2g, but so long as I can talk and text and do other things just fine on the phone and it last me a minimum of 1 day while doing it, then I have no complaints.
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I hate to say it, but if you were that into ROM develepment, why did you make the jump after finding out about the locked bootloader in the first place? I had the Droid Pro before the D2 and then the Sammy Fascinate before that and the D1 prior to that. The D1 obviously had a lot of activity in the ROM department and was fun to play with, but I eventually got tired of changing the ROM so many times so once I found a good Kernel/ROM combo I never swapped again for the rest of the time I had the phone. When I made the switch to the Fascinate the weak reception forced me to get another phone and the DPro just came out so I made that switch and was happy for a while but couldn't handle the complete lack of development and the Blur was killing me. After reading about a ROM that looked good for me (Fission) I found someone willing to trade their D2 for my DPro and I'm absolutely loving this phone. Its everything I wanted, and I now have a phone I feel I can keep for the remainder of my contract and be happy with.
No remorse with the D2 for me.?
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If you care so much about the development on a phone, then you shouldn't really get a phone, seriously, that's not what phones are for. The rom selection for the droid 2 is just fine and you can already do everything on it that you can for most other phones, minus gingerbread. You should be glad that development isn't like what it is on the droid 2 global, with only one usable rom that hasn't been updated in over a month.
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I never said that is why I bought the phone. I didn't even know about ROMing until the phone was in my hands for a few weeks. It is not something I find absolutely necessary but it is something nice to have.
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Sorry miketoasty, that rant was not aimed at you but at the former owner of a droid eris. I didn't like how he made such a big deal about the rom development of a phone
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Sorry miketoasty, that rant was not aimed at you but at the former owner of a droid eris. I didn't like how he made such a big deal about the rom development of a phone
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Who the hell are you to tell me my priorities aren't straight? ROM development is a big fn deal to me. It's my fn opinion, which i'm fully fn entitled to. Why my opinion and me stating my opinion when asked to clarify would cause you to go on a rant, especially on a fn developors forum, I have no idea. Get off your high horse buddy. If you don't give a crap about development of a phone that's all you. Maybe in the future I'd like to start developing. Never know, I do have a strong linux background. I can tell you one thing though... it's not going to be on this phone.
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I hate to say it, but if you were that into ROM develepment, why did you make the jump after finding out about the locked bootloader in the first place? I had the Droid Pro before the D2 and then the Sammy Fascinate before that and the D1 prior to that. The D1 obviously had a lot of activity in the ROM department and was fun to play with, but I eventually got tired of changing the ROM so many times so once I found a good Kernel/ROM combo I never swapped again for the rest of the time I had the phone. When I made the switch to the Fascinate the weak reception forced me to get another phone and the DPro just came out so I made that switch and was happy for a while but couldn't handle the complete lack of development and the Blur was killing me. After reading about a ROM that looked good for me (Fission) I found someone willing to trade their D2 for my DPro and I'm absolutely loving this phone. Its everything I wanted, and I now have a phone I feel I can keep for the remainder of my contract and be happy with.
No remorse with the D2 for me.?
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I didn't find out about the bootloader being locked until after I made the jump.. see, I got two droid 2's for $50 total from verizon and my fiance needed a new phone... so.. I'm now the owner of a phone with a locked bootloader.
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Who the hell are you to tell me my priorities aren't straight? ROM development is a big fn deal to me. It's my fn opinion, which i'm fully fn entitled to. Why my opinion and me stating my opinion when asked to clarify would cause you to go on a rant, especially on a fn developors forum, I have no idea. Get off your high horse buddy. If you don't give a crap about development of a phone that's all you. Maybe in the future I'd like to start developing. Never know, I do have a strong linux background. I can tell you one thing though... it's not going to be on this phone.
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You do realize that you are coming off as a bit foolish when you act like development on a phone is more important than the function of the phone itself. I don't understand how you can absolutely hate the phone just because it has a locked bootloader, its one of the best pieces of hardware on the market and functions perfectly fine even with the locked bootloader. You think that a locked bootloader stopped devs like ang to make custom roms? It shouldn't even matter. I never said I don't give a crap about development on a phone, im running fission on my phone that I've heavily modified, heck I used to be a kernel developer for a linux distro called auroraOS, go check out their website, you'll see a familiar name on their dev list. Now please don't pollute the droid 2 forums with such hateful comments about the device, most of us here love our phones.
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You do realize that you are coming off as a bit foolish when you act like development on a phone is more important than the function of the phone itself. I don't understand how you can absolutely hate the phone just because it has a locked bootloader, its one of the best pieces of hardware on the market and functions perfectly fine even with the locked bootloader. You think that a locked bootloader stopped devs like ang to make custom roms? It shouldn't even matter. I never said I don't give a crap about development on a phone, im running fission on my phone that I've heavily modified, heck I used to be a kernel developer for a linux distro called auroraOS, go check out their website, you'll see a familiar name on their dev list. Now please don't pollute the droid 2 forums with such hateful comments about the device, most of us here love our phones.
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I stated my opinion of the phone. You're the one taking it personally and going off on a rant on me. Attacking me directly saying my priorities aren't straight. Did I say the people who own these phones suck? No, I said the phone sucks in my opinion and I regret getting one for myself. That's how I feel, end of story... sorry that got you sooo butt hurt. I respected your opinion of the phone, now respect mine.
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You do realize that you are coming off as a bit foolish when you act like development on a phone is more important than the function of the phone itself. I don't understand how you can absolutely hate the phone just because it has a locked bootloader, its one of the best pieces of hardware on the market and functions perfectly fine even with the locked bootloader. You think that a locked bootloader stopped devs like ang to make custom roms? It shouldn't even matter. I never said I don't give a crap about development on a phone, im running fission on my phone that I've heavily modified, heck I used to be a kernel developer for a linux distro called auroraOS, go check out their website, you'll see a familiar name on their dev list. Now please don't pollute the droid 2 forums with such hateful comments about the device, most of us here love our phones.
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You do realize you come off a bit foolish stressing how unimportant development and modding is on a DEVELOPMENT AND MODDING forum. Especially when you come back talking about how much you've modded your phone AFTER saying that as long as you can talk and text you don't care, because it's a phone.
Agree with you on the locked bootloader being a non-issue for the most part. Of course, were it not for the locked bootloader, we would probably already have full gingerbread roms for this phone.
3 of my co-workers have dinc's. I much prefer my droid2.
I didn't say that you said people who own the phone suck, I just said that I believe you're reason for greatly disliking the phone is pretty foolish, especially since it can be worked around. Once a gingeebread rom leaks for our phones im sure that the locked bootloader wont even be relevant anymore.
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I didn't say that you said people who own the phone suck, I just said that I believe you're reason for greatly disliking the phone is pretty foolish, especially since it can be worked around. Once a gingeebread rom leaks for our phones im sure that the locked bootloader wont even be relevant anymore.
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You'd think I did as personally as you took it. The locked bootloader is relevant to me. If it's not relevant to you, fine. I'm glad you love your phone, enjoy it. I happen to not like mine.
Alright well this has gotten a little out of control. I basically got my opinion down so if a mod wants to close this thread I think that would be best as the bootloader is locked and there is nothing any of us here can do about it.
Just wondering....
Theres really nothing exciting going on with the Droid X as far as development. In contrast, I can flash a new ROM or kernal onto my Vibrant once a day.
Im not being disrespectful, but whats wrong with the Droid X? It seems like a nice platform.
Because it has a locked bootloader my friend...
What about bootstrap or whatever? I flashed Liberty onto my significant other's phone using that method.
well theres a couple of things. theres the locked bootloader but also some other things like gingerbread coming out. most rom dev's are shifting gears and waiting to get a good GB rom out for their next release. theres also Liberty 2.0 that was just released, should be released for non-donors in the next day or two. im a huge liberty fan so this is an exciting time for me.
Just give it a bit while devs switch gears from froyo to GB and there should be a whole host of new stuff coming out soon.
yeah that is probably the biggest thing. there is only so much you can do with the locked bootloader.
boolboo said:
Just wondering....
Theres really nothing exciting going on with the Droid X as far as development. In contrast, I can flash a new ROM or kernal onto my Vibrant once a day.
Im not being disrespectful, but whats wrong with the Droid X? It seems like a nice platform.
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Development has also died down due to the Thunderbolt coming out. A lot of the big devs for the X jumped ship to a new phone. Its a lot easier to support a device that is unlockable...
I dont think its dead. There doesn't seem like there is much happening right now, but I bet the devs are working on their GB releases and we're about to see a bunch of new gingeROMs coming out soon.
Locked bootloader = only so many options as far as customization goes.
Not that I've been around for eons but something I've learned from the three droid's I've owned and actively modded is that development comes and goes on our end, but it never stops on the dev's end. Usually a slow down in releases means that the next wave of them will be monumental. Even more so with gingerbread coming out! Can't wait for some girly themes to come out for GB roms so I can convince the girlfriend to let me reflash her liberty 1.5 dx over