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Why incoming call is blocked while GPRS is in transmission?

hi all,
i got a very annoying "feature" in the O2 Cosmo(T-Mobile Dash). The incoming call will be blocked(heard busy tone) if the GPRS is in transmission. I was complained by many friends.
To my understanding, there's a setting in some phones to enable both GSM/GPRS concurrent connections. Is there such setting in Windows Mobile?
My ROM is 1.13.207.2, RADIO is 4.1.13.28_02.63.90
i tried to refersh its ROM, but don't know how to CID unlock. the "RUU_Excalibur_SPL-1.11_UpgradeOnly.exe" on the server has no luck for me, still "Invalid model ID".
can anythone show light on me?
thank you

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I think microsoft released a patch for that: i'll try find it on google for you. can you explain what configuration you used?

I think the 'patch' you need is called 3G.

I have the exact same problem and I opened a thread on it as well.
Read here.
The conclusion we reached was that this is a network, not phone dependent problem.

yeah never happent to me ever

thanks for all the replies.
My previous phone is O2 XDA Mini S(Wizard). I used that one to receive push mail provided by GoodLink, which requires GPRS always on. I didn't have such issue with that, at least no complain from my friends.
That's why i am wondering something wrong with the RADIO configuration. I didn't make any specific change to my new O2 XDA Cosmo(Excalibur).
best regards

And back to my memory.
I used to have the classical Ericsson T39. There was a setting to enable GSM incoming call during GPRS transmission(cannot remember the exact name). By enable that, i can still receive incoming call, and the GPRS connection will auto resume after the call.
Is there similar setting for Windows Mobile?

There is not as far as I've ever known. I've used smartphones that determined which was blocked and which was not based on which application was in use at the time. That is, if you were actively using IE or some other network app, phone calls would go straight to voice mail. If a non-network app was front and center at the time, the network would be disconnected and the phone would ring. That (and the SE settings mentioned above which I saw on my SE phones too) showed that it was a phone setting made by the carrier. I'd hope there's a little more intelligence behind it than just "voice trumps network" but if there is, I couldn't tell you what determines which gets through and when.

I've found that it's based on the amount of data being transmitted at the time of the (attempted) call. For example, high-bandwith usage such as media streaming will lead to the incoming phone call being blocked/diverted most of the time, whereas sporadic usage (eg. PING, or loading a very simple web page) has allowed a call to come in, temporarily disabling GPRS. GPRS can never be used during a phone call.

[Q] Could any of you clever Devs look into Phone

I was wondering if you clever devs could look into adding phone functionality to the adam 3g model ?
it should be capable and would be handy for the odd occasions with a bluetooth headset.
The early tablets and recently at ces the tablet had phone icons on the desktop so im sure its at least a possibility !!
many thanks in advance

On the Battery Use, I have seen a "Phone" process.
Maybe it is already activated, but not used

You can get to the phone section via "contacts" but when you try to make a call it says "call ended" after you hit the call button. From the FCC docs, it says that the Ericcson F3307 3G card is "voice" capable so in theory it is possible! The only thing even close to phone functionality that does work is the sending/receiving SMS messages atm.

Just a shot in the dark, but does google voice's data calling use the same process?

yes and it sucks. it only stinks that the google voice works over data and not wifi. so i cant make a call over wifi if i dont have a valid sim card in.

[Q] I want 3g voice not VOIP

Hi I have just asked my provider to help make my tab work as a "phone" and was told I couldn't unless I enabled VOIP for $10 P/M
I'm not too happy about this and told them so!!!
They have come to an arrangement with me but I'm still not happy because It still sounds like VOIP to me and over 3g it drops out.
Is there a way to prove this traffic is actually data/voip
my interface shows up as SVNET0 I can capture the the UDP protocol by using OSMonitor but I don't think that is detailed enough.....
cheers for any help
PS I am running stock FROYO

First off. Who is your carrier? If you're in the US no carrier will give you voice service only data. In order to enable voice for a Tab in the US you will need to root it and then do some homework by searching through XDA. In other countries that do allow voice and data on the Tab, your mobile plan should be like any other smart phone.

cheers
Well first off I'm with Optus, and the girl tried to offer me an add on voip service to allow phone calls.
anyhow I was watching my data interfaces and sure enough they do move while on a "Voice/3g" call so although all digital transmissions could be data, these ones are UDP in particular which points to VOIP...
just need more details.....
cheers anyways

nexus 7 LTE on Verizon- How to swap sim without missing calls

Hello all. Im pretty excited about my nexus 7 lte so i figured i would help grow this currently small section on it. Having verizon and knowing how people have complained about not being able to activate their tablet on it, I came up with a pretty good way to swap your sim card into it without missing phone calls. I made a youtube video about it but I will also explain it briefly here.
you tube (dot) com (forwardslash) watch?v=GFkIR1elWug
Here are the apps you need on your phone:
Google voice
simple call forwarding (optional but the included widget makes life so much easier)
The apps needed for your tablet:
GrooveIP (or talkatone, I have both but prefer grooveIP) {Check Autostart in the App settings}
RFRSH- Refresh for Android (optional, but the autostart makes the dialer your first screen if you want to make a call)
(Root and bootloader unlocking NOT needed on either)
Basically, you set up google voice on your phone with a number.
then you set up simple call forwarding by selecting your carrier and the google voice number.
add the included widget to your homescreen and click on it to toggle it on.
the widget will place a brief call resulting in all mobile calls being forwarded to your google voice number.
An icon will show in the top left corner reminding you that call forwarding is on. You can power off your phone.
Remove microsim from phone and place into sim tray of nexus 7 using included sim tray key.
Power on tablet.
Set up grooveIP to use your googlevoice number to make calls. Try calling your house to verify it is working. It will also handle
text messages but they are only from your google voice number. {Use Verizon Messages app on your tablet to send sms.}
(Using the latest cyanogenmod builds on your phone include voice+ which allows you to text through any app with your google voice number.
This is a good incentive to ditch your text messaging plan and use google voice for all your texting anyway.)
Launch refresh for android. In the launcher tab, add grooveIP to the list so it autostarts at every boot up.
Reboot your tablet to verify it worked. It might take a few seconds but it should automatically load grooveip. This ensures you
never miss a call since call forwarding is on and you never forget to load the app since it autostarts.
To deactivate when youre done with your tablet-
Power off tablet. remove microsim and place in phone.
Power on phone. Once booted up, click on simple call forwarding widget to toggle of call forwarding.
It will place a brief call to turn off call forwading. Once it is off, you are back to normal!
I hope this has helped a few people. It works great so far. Let me know if you have a better way to do it. I am still working on the SMS part of it.:laugh:

~sigh~ dude really?
There's so much wrong with this post that its impressive.
1-No you do not need to use RFRSH to make GrooveIP auto-start, you just have to set GrooveIP to autostart in its settings
2-What does activating a SIM in a phone have to do with anything?
3-Using a Verizon phone SIM card means you're using a "phone" plan as opposed to a data only plan. This will cost a lot more money and is forbidden by the Verizon terms of use in the contract you signed when you got your phone plan. Gotta love wasting moneys!
4-None of this Google Voice-related information is new and none of it is specific to the Nexus 7 in any capacity.
5-This is a DEVELOPER forum and, as it explains at the top of the forum, not a place for you to be posting this sort of thing, especially when this is literally your first XDA post, and in the first paragraph of said post you ask people to go check out your YouTube page.
Maybe go troll for traffic somewhere else?

Well, I think he is just very proud that he got it working.
But...there is a simpler way.
Verizon provides free call forwarding at this web page:
https://wbillpay.verizonwireless.com/vzw/secure/services/CallForward.action
You can forward only if no answer, or forward immediately.
I use forward if no answer, and my tapatalk app starts ringing on the 4th or 5th ring.
Verizon also provides a free texting app which can be used on PC or tablets.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.verizon.messaging.vzmsgs&hl=en
Once it is setup you can even power off your phone and still send and receive texts from PC or tablet.
So, I don't need to make a uTube video of it.
And yes, this probably belongs in the General forum.

HowardZ said:
Well, I think he is just very proud that he got it working.
But...there is a simpler way.
Verizon provides free call forwarding at this web page:
https://wbillpay.verizonwireless.com/vzw/secure/services/CallForward.action
You can forward only if no answer, or forward immediately.
I use forward if no answer, and my tapatalk app starts ringing on the 4th or 5th ring.
Verizon also provides a free texting app which can be used on PC or tablets.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.verizon.messaging.vzmsgs&hl=en
Once it is setup you can even power off your phone and still send and receive texts from PC or tablet.
So, I don't need to make a uTube video of it.
And yes, this probably belongs in the General forum.
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correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't verizon charge like $0.10 per minute per forwarded call regardless whether it's nights and weekend or the minutes or you have in your plan?

diablofreak said:
correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't verizon charge like $0.10 per minute per forwarded call regardless whether it's nights and weekend or the minutes or you have in your plan?
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http://support.verizonwireless.com/support/features/calling_features/call_forwarding.html
Call Forwarding is automatically included with new activations, and there are no subscription fees for the service. However, airtime charges apply to all forwarded calls according to your calling plan, even when forwarding to a landline.
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I do not think there is any method of forwarding calls from Verizon without it using your plan's minutes. So it is best to tell people your google voice telephone number, and use tapatalk/grooveIP on both phone and tablet.
Regards
P. S. Call forwarding during nights and weekends
https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/794117
http://www.howardforums.com/printthread.php?t=172532&styleid=46

DivinityCycle said:
~sigh~ dude really?
There's so much wrong with this post that its impressive.
1-No you do not need to use RFRSH to make GrooveIP auto-start, you just have to set GrooveIP to autostart in its settings
2-What does activating a SIM in a phone have to do with anything?
3-Using a Verizon phone SIM card means you're using a "phone" plan as opposed to a data only plan. This will cost a lot more money and is forbidden by the Verizon terms of use in the contract you signed when you got your phone plan. Gotta love wasting moneys!
4-None of this Google Voice-related information is new and none of it is specific to the Nexus 7 in any capacity.
5-This is a DEVELOPER forum and, as it explains at the top of the forum, not a place for you to be posting this sort of thing, especially when this is literally your first XDA post, and in the first paragraph of said post you ask people to go check out your YouTube page.
Maybe go troll for traffic somewhere else?
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~sigh~ You probably felt the same way I felt after reading your post- surprised and annoyed.
I'm glad you are impressed. It was my first post, after all.
1- You are correct. I bought GrooveIP a long time ago and the version either did not have the autostart option or I missed it. Either way, you did provide this shred of beneficial information in your post. For that I thanK YOU.
2- Verizon will NOT allow you to activate the Nexus 7 LTE on their network even though it works fine. I'd post a youtube link with more information, but you might mistake it for trolling so I'll just tell you to GOOGLE it.
3- If you want to whine about the terms of Verizon's contract then do it somewhere else because you're preaching to deaf ears. This is a forum for people to use rooting and roms and tethering and plenty of other things Verizon doesn't want us to do yet here we are exploring options and learning new things. Those of us grandfathered on the unlimited data plan are not wasting money- this is who benefits from this. I guess you weren't that lucky. Don't worry, its ok.
4- I never said nor implied the Goole Voice information is new. When you think of it, just about everything on the web is recycled. This IS specific to the Nexus 7 LTE. Try to find another tablet that works on Verizon's LTE network that they WILL NOT let you activate. There are no others. This is a solution to help people who bought the tablet for Verizon and can't use it.
5- I did not see what you are mentioning at the top of the forum but I did find the forum rules. Here is Rule 2.3 for YOU
"2.3 Flaming / Lack of respect: XDA is about sharing which does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) or rudeness. Flaming or posting with a lack of respect is not acceptable. Treat new members the way you would like to have been treated when you were a new member. When dealing with any member, provide them with guidance, advice and instruction when you can, showing respect and courtesy. Never post in a demanding, argumentative, disrespectful or self-righteous manner." If a moderator could kindly move this thread to the General section, I'd appreciate it.
I never asked anyone to check out my youtube video. I mentioned that I made a video. People can check it out for clarification if they want to.
I wrote my intentions in the beginning- "i would help grow this currently small section". This is not trolling.
I used to belong to a different forum for a few years until I got fed up when it became a bloodbath of the veterans picking on the newbies. See Rule 2.3 again, dude.
(HowardZ, you have been thanked.)

Linked your link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFkIR1elWug
Good stuff. Thanks for the information. I've always wanted to dabble with GrooveIP and my Google Voice number. I have a good setup now, but it would be cool to play around to see if I could benefit from any of it.

Ok, the thread has been moved to the proper section. I also updated the Youtube video to explain how to autostart GrooveIP in its settings tab and to use Verizon Messages app to send sms on your tablet.

nexus7lte said:
Ok, the thread has been moved to the proper section. I also updated the Youtube video to explain how to autostart GrooveIP in its settings tab and to use Verizon Messages app to send sms on your tablet.
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I have been finding that whether I use GrooveIP (paid version) or Talkatone (free version), that sometimes the tablet does not receive incoming calls, and the calls instead go to Google Voice voice-mail.
I have moved the microSIM card back to my phone, because I do not want to miss calls.
Reliability is more important.
So, currently I keep the SIM in my Samsung Galaxy S4 running Cyanogenmod with WiFi teather turned ON all the time. Then on my tablet (stock rooted) I use the "WIFI Prioritizer" free app so that the tablet will only auto connect to the S4 Wifi hotspot as the last resort - the last choice among all other WiFi hotspots stored in the phone. So I carry the S4 in a holster on my hip and will only use it for phone calls. For texts I use the Verizon messaging app on the tablet, and of course email and anything for the internet looks much better on the tablet.
I'd prefer to do everything on the Nexus 7 LTE and leave the phone powered off. But any VOIP solution must answer all phone calls - it needs to be rock solid reliable.

HowardZ said:
I have been finding that whether I use GrooveIP (paid version) or Talkatone (free version), that sometimes the tablet does not receive incoming calls, and the calls instead go to Google Voice voice-mail.
I have moved the microSIM card back to my phone, because I do not want to miss calls.
Reliability is more important.
So, currently I keep the SIM in my Samsung Galaxy S4 running Cyanogenmod with WiFi teather turned ON all the time. Then on my tablet (stock rooted) I use the "WIFI Prioritizer" free app so that the tablet will only auto connect to the S4 Wifi hotspot as the last resort - the last choice among all other WiFi hotspots stored in the phone. So I carry the S4 in a holster on my hip and will only use it for phone calls. For texts I use the Verizon messaging app on the tablet, and of course email and anything for the internet looks much better on the tablet.
I'd prefer to do everything on the Nexus 7 LTE and leave the phone powered off. But any VOIP solution must answer all phone calls - it needs to be rock solid reliable.
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How is your battery after leaving wifi tether on all the time? Does tasker have a profile to use it only at certain times? i guess it must be a lot better than mine- the galaxy nexus i just replaced ran out of juice too quickly for that to be an option. With my new moto x, that may be an option i will try, especially since they use different size sim cards- need adapter.

nexus7lte said:
How is your battery after leaving wifi tether on all the time? Does tasker have a profile to use it only at certain times? i guess it must be a lot better than mine- the galaxy nexus i just replaced ran out of juice too quickly for that to be an option. With my new moto x, that may be an option i will try, especially since they use different size sim cards- need adapter.
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Short answer: 5% to 10% per hour battery consumption on the Samsung Galaxy S4 (verizon) using the latest Cyanogenmod 10.2
The phone consumed 18% battery for the last 3 hours 7 minutes. However the entire time I have been in a WiFi area, so the N7LTE is not WiFi connected to the phone. The phone's WiFi hotspot is ON, but I suspect its LTE radio will use more battery power if it actually has data to transmit on behalf of the tablet.
I do not use Tasker.
It is nice that the N7LTE tablet and my Samsung Galaxy S4 (verizon) use the same size SIM card.
However, you should consider the following:
1. The vast majority of the time I am in a WiFi area. This means the N7LTE tablet is not WiFi connected to the phone. This is assured by using the free "WiFi Prioritizer" app. Minimizing use of the phone's Wifi hotspot assures lower plan data usage (I do not have unlimited data).
2. The phone is only touched for phone calls, so at some point I think it goes to deep sleep which reduces battery usage. Or perhaps Wifi Hotspot being on will not allow it to go to sleep?
3. Texts are handled by the free Verizon Messaging app running on the tablet - because all apps look and operate nicer on a tablet.
4. Phone is only used for actual voice cell phone calls.
There are other alternatives I can use, but they will modestly increase the monthly costs. For example I can move the phone's verizon microSIM card back into the N7LTE and:
1. Pay Skype $5 per month for a SKYPE phone number and $3 per month for unlimited calling to USA real phone numbers. Skype has a reputation of working very well - unlike google voice. This is back to carrying around only the N7LTE tablet, but paying for Skype because Google Voice is not reliable for me. OR,
2. Activate one of my old verizon dumb-phones for $10 per month and use that for actual phone calls. In this scenario the tablet gets its DATA via the verizon microSIM card inside it via LTE. A dumb phone is much smaller and lighter than a smart phone, and the battery charge lasts much much longer.

[Q] Phone Consolidation Options

Hey guys;
I'm here for a general question that I can't seem to find a solution phone. A little background:
I have two phones. One phone for work, one phone for personal. Personal is Galaxy S5 and work is Galaxy S4 Active.
I have two bluetooth devices a Martian Smart Watch, and an LG stereo headset.
The headset connects with two phones, but instead of both being default, there's a default and a backup, so if I charge, go out of range, turn off, anything, it becomes a pain in the ass to try to reconnect both. The watch is a smart watch, only connects to one device. So I'm looking into options to make two devices into one.
I've come across a few options. However, I've come to find issues with each.
Use a dual sim adapter-however I haven't come across an Active Dual Sim adapter. So I can not receive calls from both at any time, just the one that's active.
Buy a different model dual sim phone, but I haven't found a good reliable place to do this.
Try a "mirroring" method? I haven't found an actual solution for this, but it's a hypothis that something like this has to exist. Maybe an app on both phones, leave my work phone at home on the charger 24/7, and carry my personal. Any calls coming in from my work get sent through the app on my personal, and can make calls through the app on my personal that will show up from my work number.
Call forwarding on one device-but then there's no way to dial out or text from that devices phone number.
I've heard some rumors about google voice and porting a number over to it. Then using the google voice app to text or call. Anyone got information regarding this?
I dunno, I'm at a loss. Anyone found any good solutions for this?

Bleyld said:
I haven't come across an Active Dual Sim adapter. So I can not receive calls from both at any time, just the one that's active.
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You want a phone that has two SIMs simultaneously active. So do a lot of a lot of other people. But the phone manufacturer's must not perceive a large market for the demand as I haven't seen anyone bring a commercial product like that to market. There are dual SIM phones, but either one SIM is inactive i.e. you choose to boot into one SIM or the other. Or one SIM is GSM and one is CDMA, apparently for mixed-technology markets in China.
It isn't impossible. I know of a very small number of people running custom firmware that multiplexes access to the SIM, effectively checking if there are calls for each SIM in rapid succession. In effect that monitors incoming calls for both SIMs. But again, I haven't noticed any commercial models that do that. You should do a search and see if you can find a manufacturer with a true dual SIM phone.
In practical terms though, you could simply have your second number forward to your single SIM phone. The only obvious impediment to that is if your carrier plan has excessive call forwarding charges. Google voice is often helpful in this to avoid miscellaneous forwarding or airtime fees or for greater call management flexibility. You may not need a second cellular number at all if you can use a GV number for line two and then forward incoming GV calls to your mobile.
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