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Does anyone have a fix yet? I turned on wireless network location but gps still sucks
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Oh my dear lord I just said the same thing. I turned mine on and I dint get a good grasp on the signal. I was just convincing my wife for the fascinate and went to show the vividness of the maps.
I went in front of my house but not much changed. Haven't tested whiledriving though.
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Does anyone have a fix yet? I turned on wireless network location but gps still sucks
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If I didn't own an EVO, I wouldn't think anything of it. The Epic takes longer to get an initial fix. Indoors, it usually gets no fix at all. Quite a contrast to the EVO. I hope there are improvements. I saw a post saying that the source was released. I find it hard to believe that there is so little buzz about something that was such a big deal in the EVO forum.
Roger
I heard the rumor that the GPS drivers in the Epic aren't up to date which is the problem. That Samsung fixed the GPS issue that was on the other devices, however the drivers are bad and Froyo will fix it. That being said, I can stand outside and have to wait like a minute or 2 before I get a triangular lock, then maybe 5 to 10 minutes before I get an actual GPS lock.
mine takes maybe 20 secs while my evo is almost instant. a few mins sounds like theres something wrong.
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You can't really expect GPS to work indoors.....
Even car GPS units won't work in a house well or at if all.
In other news toasters do not work well underwater. Maybe some phones can get a good fix inside, but for the most-part, you need to be outside to get a good signal. Sometimes I can get a quick fix, but most of the time it struggles. I don't have any problem with this, because my dedicated TomTom GPS can't even get a fix inside.
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In other news toasters do not work well underwater. Maybe some phones can get a good fix inside, but for the most-part, you need to be outside to get a good signal. Sometimes I can get a quick fix, but most of the time it struggles. I don't have any problem with this, because my dedicated TomTom GPS can't even get a fix inside.
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+1 My Evo and Epic, BOTH don't work well inside. My Evo takes 20 sec, and the Epic takes 25. Big deal.
I have to ask...how can one be (according to their bio) a SPRINT SALES REP and still expect their phones GPS to work indoors?
I must be missing something here....
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I have to ask...how can one be (according to their bio) a SPRINT SALES REP and still expect their phones GPS to work indoors?
I must be missing something here....
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Me too. I read the title of the thread, and I'm like you've got to be kidding me.
Straight from wikipedia:
The Global Positioning System (GPS) is a space-based global navigation satellite system that provides reliable location and time information in all weather and at all times and anywhere on or near the Earth when and where there is an unobstructed line of sight to four or more GPS satellites. It is maintained by the United States government and is freely accessible by anyone with a GPS receiver.
GPS was created and realized by the U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) and was originally run with 24 satellites. It was established in 1973 to overcome the limitations of previous navigation systems.
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Now I get it that there is a problem with the Epic GPS. But titling a thread like that is just asking to get smartass replies, lol.
It is really the AGPS/GPS relationship that we are looking to work better.
Reset my EVO open google maps. 1 second to location general. 3 seconds to accurate lock.
Reset my Epic open google maps. Well... this time it only took a few seconds.
What I think is going on is that the tower location isn't helping the GPS location the way it should. I'm sure it is a software thing. Still tons better than my touch pro was. That thing took all day to get a lock indoors.
All surfIII chipsets get a fine lock indoors. No need for a view of the sky. The lock isn't accurate, but it is a very sensitive chipset/receiver. Not a crazy post at all.
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Not a crazy post at all.
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Not a crazy post, just worded poorly, and probably indicative of a lack of understanding of how GPS and AGPS work together.
That said, I'm very happy with the indoors AGPS performance of this device. It's all a function of how long it's been since you used the app. Wait 30 seconds from when you last used it and it's gonna be quick, but wait a week and it's gonna take some time to update the ephemeris... just like any device.
Obviously people have never heard of agps. Everyone in my store can get a lock in five seconds except for me in doors. Do don't call me crazy. Ive been developing for years now for vogue and hero and both had no problems whatso ever
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My gps wrks fine in doors and out. Mybe u have adefective unit?
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Does everyone but you have a defective unit? Alot of people who have the epic are reporting bad gps issues
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Does everyone but you have a defective unit? Alot of people who have the epic are reporting bad gps issues
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Mine works AWESOME once I got an initial lock it is now blazing and very accurate
Newer GPS receivers can pick up indirect signals (very weak) and give lock on for a fix--you no longer have to have line-of-sight to the satellites. My Epic is very slow to determine a position indoors or out. I'm beginning to think I'm going to have to return it before the 30 day trial expires.
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Does everyone but you have a defective unit? Alot of people who have the epic are reporting bad gps issues
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Mine works fine. I am aware of how to prevent problems with gps on my phone and made a post about it, but apparently I'm the only one who thinks the gps and time-without-signal bug are connected, when it's reproducible on my phone.
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I've played with 4 epics, and every one of them has had sub-par GPS performance. Especially compared to the Evo. With that said, it still works generally every time outside in good weather, but the lock will take a little longer than you might be used to.
Indoors, I can't get an accurate lock at all. I've tried in a multitude of different indoor areas, and I'm usually around 50ft off, which isn't too bad really. However, like I said, coming from the Evo you may be disappointed.
Hopefully it can be fixed with a software update, but who knows how long that will take.
All my tests were performed with aGPS as well.
To use the GPS accuraely, you"l need to turn off wireless networks and use sole 3/4G networks. WiFi will crew your ****. Also, try opening the com.samsung.GpsSetup.GpsSetup activity. In there you can change different settings for the GPS. Someone with knowledge can help us find the optimal settings.
I spoke to Verizon about the GPS problem. They told me there not responsible for it. So I said So if I buy a Camera Phone with the intention of using the camera...and if the camera doesnt work...your not responsible? They said no the manufacturer is.
I said I purchased the phone with all intention because of the navigation and maps on BING!!!! I emphasized BING. Because If i said GOOGLE maps they would of said well thats 3rd party.
They said sorry we cant help. I asked can I switch the phone. They said no. can You replace the phone with one that works. They said its a known issue there all like that so we cant. We were waiting for a software fix they said. And I said if that fix never comes do i get my $ back....they said NO.
Verizon said there only responsible for data and calling issues...lol If i have a problem with the phone i should contact samsung.
Sounds like a typical response from a csr drone.
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why is verzion responsible for a problem that is caused by the manufactor?
you have a 30 day period where you can easily replace the phone for htc incredible, droid x, or droid 2..
Ok its simple first I need to say I already put my fascinate up for sale.
Second when I purchased the phone originally I complained about the GPS many times. The issue was confirmed and they swapped it out with a new one. Then when I got the new one the issue was still there. I was told by tech support that the issue is confirmed and that there is no new fix and that there would be a fix released in 2 weeks. So I decided to hold onto the phone after hearing that the fix was being released in that time frame. There was a fix released........but it was not for the GPS.
Now after sometime of no fix. I called verizon explained top them I only bought the phone to use BING maps and without a working GPS of which is advertised it is of no use.
In my history of being with VERIZON any time I had a hardware issue or any issue with there phones I would take it into the store. Tech would look at it and if the problem is confirmed..........warrenty states that they FIX it, or replace it or give my $ back if not solved.
This is THE only phone ive ever had that verizon has told me that they are not responsible. So to have my gps fixed or replaced after the 30 days due to non working GPS id have to speak with SAMSUNG.
You say Verizon is not responsible? Show me a time that anyone has ever gone through the manufacturer for warrenty service. FOR A CELL PHONE.
THE CELL PROVIDER is responsible for the warrenty........how do i know.....I called Samsung and they saids that...And im sure if you call verizon about any other phone they will tell you to go to tech support and have phone fixed or replaced or get a another phone.
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Ok its simple first I need to say I already put my fascinate up for sale.
Second when I purchased the phone originally I complained about the GPS many times. The issue was confirmed and they swapped it out with a new one. Then when I got the new one the issue was still there. I was told by tech support that the issue is confirmed and that there is no new fix and that there would be a fix released in 2 weeks. So I decided to hold onto the phone after hearing that the fix was being released in that time frame. There was a fix released........but it was not for the GPS.
Now after sometime of no fix. I called verizon explained top them I only bought the phone to use BING maps and without a working GPS of which is advertised it is of no use.
In my history of being with VERIZON any time I had a hardware issue or any issue with there phones I would take it into the store. Tech would look at it and if the problem is confirmed..........warrenty states that they FIX it, or replace it or give my $ back if not solved.
This is THE only phone ive ever had that verizon has told me that they are not responsible. So to have my gps fixed or replaced after the 30 days due to non working GPS id have to speak with SAMSUNG.
You say Verizon is not responsible? Show me a time that anyone has ever gone through the manufacturer for warrenty service. FOR A CELL PHONE.
THE CELL PROVIDER is responsible for the warrenty........how do i know.....I called Samsung and they saids that...And im sure if you call verizon about any other phone they will tell you to go to tech support and have phone fixed or replaced or get a another phone.
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Are you people ever going to do a search? We have a workaround for the GPS - the GPS Status application in the market. Whenever you're about to use GPS, go to GPS Status, hit the Menu key, Settings, GPS & Sensors, Manage A-GPS state, Reset. Then go back to the main GPS Status screen and wait for locks in the lower right hand corner. If there are no locks (only satellite's detected) after about a minute, drag down your notification bar and turn off your GPS for about 10 seconds, then turn it back on and watch the magic happen.
Geez.
There were several people that had HTC fix their TP2s, both VZW and Sprint that I've seen. Usually, the carriers just deal with it themselves and save you the hassle.
Did i really buy a phone for a work around like that?
I bought it to work. And from what people are saying .... 2.2 does not fix the gps on the vibrant.
Either way ... just wanted to say what i was told.
I already packed mine up.
Let me know when your camera doesnt work......ill come up with a work around. lol
Personally, I can wait a minute for it to get a gps lock. I'm never in that much of a hurry that I can't wait a few extra seconds for a lock. I also have found that leaving GPS enabled all the time will result in faster locks than if it's turned on/off as needed. GPS Status also helps, though isn't as needed when GPS is always on. I've used a TomTom and it gets a GPS lock as fast as the Fascinate, and it's a dedicated GPS device, so I won't complain about a minor detail.
My .02, I get a lock in less than 30 seconds on an untouched fascinate. Usually it's 8-10 sats in view and locked on 4 or more in that 30 seconds with 6 locked in another 15 seconds. Seems its a hit or miss problem.
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Did i really buy a phone for a work around like that?
I bought it to work. And from what people are saying .... 2.2 does not fix the gps on the vibrant.
Either way ... just wanted to say what i was told.
I already packed mine up.
Let me know when your camera doesnt work......ill come up with a work around. lol
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Since you have a faulty phone with your GPS issue you should have a cheap price in mind right? Shoot me a PM on what you want for it...
takes about an hour for my gps to lock
From what I've seen, gps status trick just runs a gps cache clearing script. So to me this just seems like a direct link to samsung's clusterfu*k of a data filesystem.
You should have sent your ninjas. Sorry, I couldn't resist.
My Ninjas are deadly
GPS Booster on the market seems to work for quite a few people.
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GPS Booster on the market seems to work for quite a few people.
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Yup. Even though it says it fails, it clearly does not fail with 6 sec. locks.
good day.
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Since you have a faulty phone with your GPS issue you should have a cheap price in mind right? Shoot me a PM on what you want for it...
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icwudt . . .
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GPS Booster on the market seems to work for quite a few people.
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Agreed, apparently it's software related. Maybe hardware, but I did the gps booster and it locks in 10 flat.
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GPS Booster on the market seems to work for quite a few people.
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Didn't work for me.
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Didn't work for me.
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Damnit!
Did you do anything to alter GPS from stock in GPSsetup that maybe others didn't? Wireless network assistance checked?
I haven't tried the Booster yet but was hopeful.
Two epics, exact same software, baseband, kernel, both freshly reflashed... one sees 9 satellites and locks onto 8 right away and the other sees same 9 satellites right away but will not get a fix. I'm getting ready to rip my hair out and gnaw my nails down. Why, Samsung, why can't you get something right that my Nokia n95 got right almost fiv years ago?
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Not more of the same crap about GPS. We know already some epic, the GPS works others dont.
Let me guess. One phone was your old phone that you had replaced by the new phone because of the GPS issue. The new phone locks on right away when the old phone doesn't. Hmm, this issue has only been covered about 30,000 times in these forums. Your new phone has an empty cache when your old phone had a cache with old data in it. Give your new phone about a week and magically it will be "broken" like your old phone.
If my prediction is correct, move on, nothing to see here.
Actually, no. I got them both on the same day.. one is mine, one is wife's. I'm the biggest preacher on these boards about this retarded cache bug and trust me, this is not it in my case.
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Yay!!! Another thread about gps!!
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hmm as for the n95, i followed an online tut and downloaded garmin for my n95 a while back and i remember it would take much much longer than the epic to catch a signal..
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Not more of the same crap about GPS. We know already some epic, the GPS works others dont.
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Wrong!
Every Epic off the assembly line has GPS issue so please no more of the same crap.
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Wrong!
Every Epic off the assembly line has GPS issue so please no more of the same crap.
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Mine works just fine and Im an avid user of GPS....
Now I'm sure this is where you say, "Just wait...it will start messing up in time"...
Followed by my response of, "Well...its been working thus far so I'm just going to ride the GPS train until I have issues"
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Wrong!
Every Epic off the assembly line has GPS issue so please no more of the same crap.
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Not again!!! Dude my GPS works the balls. I use it just for ****s and giggles. I use it even if I know were I'm going.
shook187 said:
Not again!!! Dude my GPS works the balls. I use it just for ****s and giggles. I use it even if I know were I'm going.
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lol.
This has been gone over so so many times my friends.
Just because you get fast fix doesn't mean your getting true fix.It takes at least 5 loc to get accurate positioning.
On first power up You will get fast fix 9+ loc then when you turn off whatever gps app running then turn back on you will get fast fix only 1 loc if lucky.
gps Cach isn't clearing thus more then one loc is scarce after first gps app open.
Only way to get it working again temporarily is to battery pull so gps cach clears.
That my friends is gps issue.
Why some Epic owners are in denial of that fact is beyond me.
They get fast position fix & think no GPS issue present everything's dandy.
Samsung has been aware of issue for some time hopefully they get their act together and release patch soon put to rest such threads
I agreei have owned 3 Epic's and every single one's gps sucked.
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I just want to let you guys know that I got the replacement phone and GPS works fine! before I had to use adb in order to get to clockworkmod but with my new phone I can use volume and power keys. I also noticed it's not as laggy as my old vibrant.
I would suggest you to call T-Mobile and have them to send a replacement phone if you really want the GPS works.
Merry Christmas !
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Did they make you try the GPS Restore App on your old phone first, or did you just talk them into the exchange?
I told the representative and her supervisor to send me a new phone because it's a hardware issue otherwise I will cancel my account so they sent me even earlier than 7 business days that I was told!
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Were u within the 30 day period? I tried this once but they told me they couldn't do anything after 30 days..
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Were u within the 30 day period? I tried this once but they told me they couldn't do anything after 30 days..
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Really? I just had mine replaced because it wouldn't charge.. I am way over 30 days. You have to call them though, you can't just do it in-store
No, I bought it about 3 months ago. I told them my friend got the replacement phone and the GPS works so I need to get a new phone as well because the ota update didn't fix the issue. Don't ask them just have them to send a replacement phone. ...
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I just want to let you guys know that I got the replacement phone and GPS works fine! before I had to use adb in order to get to clockworkmod but with my new phone I can use volume and power keys. I also noticed it's not as laggy as my old vibrant.
I would suggest you to call T-Mobile and have them to send a replacement phone if you really want the GPS works.
Merry Christmas !
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I just asked T-mobile to ship me a replacement Vibrant because my GPS isn't working, hopefully the one that they ship to me works fine.
Was it in the original retail box?
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I just want to let you guys know that I got the replacement phone and GPS works fine! before I had to use adb in order to get to clockworkmod but with my new phone I can use volume and power keys. I also noticed it's not as laggy as my old vibrant.
I would suggest you to call T-Mobile and have them to send a replacement phone if you really want the GPS works.
Merry Christmas !
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Mind downloading GPS Test from Android Market, and telling us what the accuracy in feet is?
I've played with more recently manufactured vibrants and those manufactured near release time during summer, and there is nothing revolutionary about the GPS on the new ones vs old vibrants with JI6. I would go as far as to say the two are most likely identical hardware wise, with the exception of an end user tinkering the heck out of the GPS settings because some bogus thread on xda told them to. A replacement refurbished Vibrant only appears revolutionary to people who had royally tinkered with their GPS settings one too many times to begin with.
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Mind downloading GPS Test from Android Market, and telling us what the accuracy in feet is?
I've played with more recently manufactured vibrants and those manufactured near release time during summer, and there is nothing revolutionary about the GPS on the new ones vs old vibrants with JI6. I would go as far as to say the two are most likely identical hardware wise, with the exception of an end user tinkering the heck out of the GPS settings because some bogus thread on xda told them to. A replacement refurbished Vibrant only appears revolutionary to people who had royally tinkered with their GPS settings one too many times to begin with.
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The difference in GPS functionality after doing the hardware fix myself is dramatic. If the new phones solve this hardware issue then it's not just tweaking or placebo. Besides, most people here Odin back to stock often so that would negate any negative effect that tinkering with software would cause.
with my vibrant the most accurate gps i can get is 20-25 feet. what is everybody else getting?
G1 is about 10-15 feet
and mt3g is about 8-12 feet
at least that is what gps status tells me
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with my vibrant the most accurate gps i can get is 20-25 feet. what is everybody else getting?
G1 is about 10-15 feet
and mt3g is about 8-12 feet
at least that is what gps status tells me
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I get 8-10 feet I have stock 2.1 running with root of course.
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15-20 at best after the hardware fix. Normally around 20-25. Before the fix it varied wildly but always above 30 if I was lucky to get locks.
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15-20 at best after the hardware fix. Normally around 20-25. Before the fix it varied wildly but always above 30 if I was lucky to get locks.
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What hardware fix are u talking about. I would like to try this. I have an unrooted vibrant.
Thanks
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Uhhh... its stickied to the very top of this sub-forum?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878970
fioricet said:
with my vibrant the most accurate gps i can get is 20-25 feet. what is everybody else getting?
G1 is about 10-15 feet
and mt3g is about 8-12 feet
at least that is what gps status tells me
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On my vibrant, before JI6 I had 150+ ft accuracy, sometimes different cities other times located me in different states.
Post JI6 14-28ft accuracy, usually in the 20s. ALWAYS drifts, I can be standing dead still and my GPS drifts.
Two HTC phones, 6 ft accuracy within seconds even indoors, never drifts.
My stock replacement evo is locking up randomly
When this happens, whe I wake the phone the screen is unresponsive and the icons start dragging themselves around the screen and I end up doing a battety pull.
The guys at the sprint store could not repeat the problem but it happened 10mins ago
is there a fix or something sprint can do to help me? Im on my second evo and im sick of the people at the sprint store saying the phone isgood because the problem doesnt happen when they check the phone.
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My stock replacement evo is locking up randomly
When this happens, whe I wake the phone the screen is unresponsive and the icons start dragging themselves around the screen and I end up doing a battety pull.
The guys at the sprint store could not repeat the problem but it happened 10mins ago
is there a fix or something sprint can do to help me? Im on my second evo and im sick of the people at the sprint store saying the phone isgood because the problem doesnt happen when they check the phone.
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What software are you running?
You could run a RUU and see if that solves the issue.
If it doesn't I would take a video the next time the phone does it and show them the video in the store.
Sounds like its possibly a touch screen issue.
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What software are you running?
You could run a RUU and see if that solves the issue.
If it doesn't I would take a video the next time the phone does it and show them the video in the store.
Sounds like its possibly a touch screen issue.
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I would do better than that, and take it in while its locked up, then demand a new phone and a credit for your discomfort.
Factory reset ##786# when ask for code inter 343495 may lose numbers and apps if not saved
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What software are you running?
You could run a RUU and see if that solves the issue.
If it doesn't I would take a video the next time the phone does it and show them the video in the store.
Sounds like its possibly a touch screen issue.
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Heh, did that when my htc hero gave me problems, they still refused to service it becaused they claimed the tech needed to actually see it,once I grt home Ill reset and ruu
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I would do better than that, and take it in while its locked up, then demand a new phone and a credit for your discomfort.
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I don't know about the credit but if its an intermittent issue that may not be possible.
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I don't know about the credit but if its an intermittent issue that may not be possible.
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Well the credit was just over the top, but I mean take it in if it happens, and he's available to do so.
I just want my phone to work, I asked the tech if he were to replace my phone, if he had any evos and he said they could not replace it because they wereout of stock...hoping I can fix this when I get home, I hate dealing with with the reps at the store making me wait 2 hrs every time I go.
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