Does anyone have a fix yet? I turned on wireless network location but gps still sucks
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Oh my dear lord I just said the same thing. I turned mine on and I dint get a good grasp on the signal. I was just convincing my wife for the fascinate and went to show the vividness of the maps.
I went in front of my house but not much changed. Haven't tested whiledriving though.
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Does anyone have a fix yet? I turned on wireless network location but gps still sucks
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If I didn't own an EVO, I wouldn't think anything of it. The Epic takes longer to get an initial fix. Indoors, it usually gets no fix at all. Quite a contrast to the EVO. I hope there are improvements. I saw a post saying that the source was released. I find it hard to believe that there is so little buzz about something that was such a big deal in the EVO forum.
Roger
I heard the rumor that the GPS drivers in the Epic aren't up to date which is the problem. That Samsung fixed the GPS issue that was on the other devices, however the drivers are bad and Froyo will fix it. That being said, I can stand outside and have to wait like a minute or 2 before I get a triangular lock, then maybe 5 to 10 minutes before I get an actual GPS lock.
mine takes maybe 20 secs while my evo is almost instant. a few mins sounds like theres something wrong.
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You can't really expect GPS to work indoors.....
Even car GPS units won't work in a house well or at if all.
In other news toasters do not work well underwater. Maybe some phones can get a good fix inside, but for the most-part, you need to be outside to get a good signal. Sometimes I can get a quick fix, but most of the time it struggles. I don't have any problem with this, because my dedicated TomTom GPS can't even get a fix inside.
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In other news toasters do not work well underwater. Maybe some phones can get a good fix inside, but for the most-part, you need to be outside to get a good signal. Sometimes I can get a quick fix, but most of the time it struggles. I don't have any problem with this, because my dedicated TomTom GPS can't even get a fix inside.
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+1 My Evo and Epic, BOTH don't work well inside. My Evo takes 20 sec, and the Epic takes 25. Big deal.
I have to ask...how can one be (according to their bio) a SPRINT SALES REP and still expect their phones GPS to work indoors?
I must be missing something here....
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I have to ask...how can one be (according to their bio) a SPRINT SALES REP and still expect their phones GPS to work indoors?
I must be missing something here....
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Me too. I read the title of the thread, and I'm like you've got to be kidding me.
Straight from wikipedia:
The Global Positioning System (GPS) is a space-based global navigation satellite system that provides reliable location and time information in all weather and at all times and anywhere on or near the Earth when and where there is an unobstructed line of sight to four or more GPS satellites. It is maintained by the United States government and is freely accessible by anyone with a GPS receiver.
GPS was created and realized by the U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) and was originally run with 24 satellites. It was established in 1973 to overcome the limitations of previous navigation systems.
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Now I get it that there is a problem with the Epic GPS. But titling a thread like that is just asking to get smartass replies, lol.
It is really the AGPS/GPS relationship that we are looking to work better.
Reset my EVO open google maps. 1 second to location general. 3 seconds to accurate lock.
Reset my Epic open google maps. Well... this time it only took a few seconds.
What I think is going on is that the tower location isn't helping the GPS location the way it should. I'm sure it is a software thing. Still tons better than my touch pro was. That thing took all day to get a lock indoors.
All surfIII chipsets get a fine lock indoors. No need for a view of the sky. The lock isn't accurate, but it is a very sensitive chipset/receiver. Not a crazy post at all.
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Not a crazy post at all.
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Not a crazy post, just worded poorly, and probably indicative of a lack of understanding of how GPS and AGPS work together.
That said, I'm very happy with the indoors AGPS performance of this device. It's all a function of how long it's been since you used the app. Wait 30 seconds from when you last used it and it's gonna be quick, but wait a week and it's gonna take some time to update the ephemeris... just like any device.
Obviously people have never heard of agps. Everyone in my store can get a lock in five seconds except for me in doors. Do don't call me crazy. Ive been developing for years now for vogue and hero and both had no problems whatso ever
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My gps wrks fine in doors and out. Mybe u have adefective unit?
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Does everyone but you have a defective unit? Alot of people who have the epic are reporting bad gps issues
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Does everyone but you have a defective unit? Alot of people who have the epic are reporting bad gps issues
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Mine works AWESOME once I got an initial lock it is now blazing and very accurate
Newer GPS receivers can pick up indirect signals (very weak) and give lock on for a fix--you no longer have to have line-of-sight to the satellites. My Epic is very slow to determine a position indoors or out. I'm beginning to think I'm going to have to return it before the 30 day trial expires.
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Does everyone but you have a defective unit? Alot of people who have the epic are reporting bad gps issues
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Mine works fine. I am aware of how to prevent problems with gps on my phone and made a post about it, but apparently I'm the only one who thinks the gps and time-without-signal bug are connected, when it's reproducible on my phone.
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I've played with 4 epics, and every one of them has had sub-par GPS performance. Especially compared to the Evo. With that said, it still works generally every time outside in good weather, but the lock will take a little longer than you might be used to.
Indoors, I can't get an accurate lock at all. I've tried in a multitude of different indoor areas, and I'm usually around 50ft off, which isn't too bad really. However, like I said, coming from the Evo you may be disappointed.
Hopefully it can be fixed with a software update, but who knows how long that will take.
All my tests were performed with aGPS as well.
To use the GPS accuraely, you"l need to turn off wireless networks and use sole 3/4G networks. WiFi will crew your ****. Also, try opening the com.samsung.GpsSetup.GpsSetup activity. In there you can change different settings for the GPS. Someone with knowledge can help us find the optimal settings.
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IF YOU HAVE A GPS ISSUE... I DO NOT CARE. THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR YOU. THIS THREAD IS FOR PEOPLE TO POST WHO DO NOT HAVE AN ISSUE. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THERE ARE SOME OF US OUT THERE!
I guess androidmonkey ran with my idea and made a poll (shocker, guess who is leading at the time I posted this, those with no issues...)
I'm so freaking tired of post after post about the same people having a GPS issue. It makes the phone look poor and you guys are certainly greasing the wheel well enough. Who is the minority here?
So I thought a thread of those reporting no issues would be a welcome site.
*I am not stating anything about the compass, frankly, not sure I have ever even noticed it... *
Instead of creating a boasting thread, as part of the Samsung Defense Force, why don't you post helpful information that could help every other owner of this phone?
For example: Manufacture date, ship date, actual statistics / proof of your GPS performance and so forth.
^ post helpful information? Are you serious... all I do on here is help answer questions and write guides.
I am rooted/stock. There is nothing special done, no fixes, no tweaks.... I don't feel the need to make a video of my phone as proof of this, lol.
My gps works good enough to get me somewhere ... that's all I need it for..
I agree. There's some slight downers here...
Go for it! I think a rah-rah thread might have value. It helps beat the drum to drown out the critics and all those annoying tests and facts. That way, if a GPS fix does not materialize and I have to resell my Vibrant used as a lemon, there will be better demand in the open market.
Caveat emptor. Carpe diem.
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^ post helpful information? Are you serious... all I do on here is help answer questions and write guides.
I am rooted/stock. There is nothing special done, no fixes, no tweaks.... I don't feel the need to make a video of my phone as proof of this, lol.
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^ Cool story, Bro.
So, I post a reasonable request, and you respond by being a douchebag. Way to help people all the time.
How long does your your gps take to lock? If its a few seconds, then i would like to know what's different with your phone
Gps is a HUGE issue. My gps is still taking minutes to lock which is basically useless and I've turned mine off.
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I'm so freaking tired of post after post about the same people having a GPS issue. It makes the phone look poor and you guys are certainly greasing the wheel well enough. Who is the minority here?
So I thought a thread of those reporting no issues would be a welcome site.
*I am not stating anything about the compass, frankly, not sure I have ever even noticed it... *
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I hate trolls as much as the next guy but the Samsung Galaxy S series has MAJOR issues with GPS. This is not BS, *****ing, whining, etc, its a REAL issue. I sent a link to my location to a friend the other day and the GPS said I was 30 miles away. Sometime though the GPS is spot on, im talking about within 10 feet. Other times its miles off. I know 3 people with this phone and all have the same issues. Not to mention the hundreds of people on this forum.
Please tell us your firmware version, kernel version, baseband version, manufactured date, etc.
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Please tell us your firmware version, kernel version, baseband version, manufactured date, etc.
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FW: 2.1 update 1
Base: T959UVJFD
Kernel: 2.6.29
MD, I do not have my box with me.... I got it on 7/15/10.
JonC... 1/2 of your posts are whining about GPS. I'm not spending the time to make a video for you dude.
How bout people quit making NEW threads about gps?! There is already a thread with a fix, if someone has something to say about gps issues post there and stop clogging the forum with the same ****!
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I'm so freaking tired of post after post about the same people having a GPS issue. It makes the phone look poor and you guys are certainly greasing the wheel well enough. Who is the minority here?
So I thought a thread of those reporting no issues would be a welcome site.
*I am not stating anything about the compass, frankly, not sure I have ever even noticed it... *
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Dude you read my mind! GREAT POST. I'm all for it. Heck, why be anti something when you can be pro something right?
I hate seeing all these posts about the gps issue as well. It does make the Vibrant look bad....so to them gps minorities, keep your problems to one thread instead having multiple threads that just spreads bad vibes across the boards...
For the record, I have ZERO problems with my GSP. It locks on pretty fast and works like a charm...
Two thumbs up for this post...
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FW: 2.1 update 1
Base: T959UVJFD
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MD, I do not have my box with me.... I got it on 7/15/10.
JonC... 1/2 of your posts are whining about GPS. I'm not spending the time to make a video for you dude.
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Then go make it for the hundreds of other people experiencing the issue with the exact same device, on the exact same baseband and kernel version. Out them as the HTC sleep cells that they all are.
Also, just to get serious for a second here:
Nobody ever said that the Galaxy S wasn't a sweet device. It's simply disappointing that Locational Services are severely busted, and we worry about having to trust Samsung on their word.
You know: their word.
So, it apparently works perfectly for you. That's neat. Congratulations. Unfortunately, it doesn't work for the majority of us here. Instead of showing us how this is an isolated incident (with your seemingly 'perfect' phone), you've chosen to boast on an internet forum. This provides us with less hope than actual evidence that it could be our individual phones that are defective (which would point to hardware).
Not really sure how that helps anyone, sport.
^ blagh blagh blagh... more posts about GPS... this thread is not intended for you, you are the reason I made it.
^ Cool story, bro!
Man what dissapointment I thought someone had finally received a phone with a working GPS
The Vibrant is a great phone but let's face it, the GPS software just plain sucks and I'm sure that goes for everyone. My G1 could lock on 8 sats in my house where the Vibrant can't find a single one. Outdoors I may get 3 after 5 minutes and even then the map program is not that accurate.
I guess you started a thread to make yourself feel good but get ready to be flamed
^ Flame away. Or, wait for others with no issues to post. Either way, I'm tired of the GPS whining threads.
I too have been wondering what all the fuss is about. I would like to know a repeatable symptom that makes people think there is a problem. If it's just time to lock, well there are so many variables to consider. Sometimes my phone locks on in seconds, usually if I have used the GPS recently. If it has been longer (like days or weeks), then it takes my phone longer (five minutes???). It also depends on the weather, and if you are moving while trying to get a lock. I have owned several stand-alone GPS devices, and have used military GPS receivers too. They ALL have these same issues.
Now if the complaint is something other than lock time, then that would be a different story.
I really don't see the GPS in this phone operating any better or worse than any other GPS that I have ever used.
I got my phone the day it came out, and my serial number ends with 10.07, and using stock FW (rooted of course). No lag fix applied either (I have heard of a lot of people having issues with g maps and lag fixes).
I guess this thread backfired on the fanboy OP.
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I too have been wondering what all the fuss is about. I would like to know a repeatable symptom that makes people think there is a problem. If it's just time to lock, well there are so many variables to consider. Sometimes my phone locks on in seconds, usually if I have used the GPS recently. If it has been longer (like days or weeks), then it takes my phone longer (five minutes???). It also depends on the weather, and if you are moving while trying to get a lock. I have owned several stand-alone GPS devices, and have used military GPS receivers too. They ALL have these same issues.
Now if the complaint is something other than lock time, then that would be a different story.
I really don't see the GPS in this phone operating any better or worse than any other GPS that I have ever used.
I got my phone the day it came out, and my serial number ends with 10.07, and using stock FW (rooted of course). No lag fix applied either (I have heard of a lot of people having issues with g maps and lag fixes).
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I can't comment on the past phones or gps units you may have used but I can comment on mine. Using the programs GPS Status or GPS Test:
My G1 within seconds can lock on 6-8 sats sitting in my livingroom - this phone cannot locate one that's a (hopefully) software problem.
Outdoors my G1 locks on 8-10 sats in seconds - the Vibrant barely finds 3 (I have had 4 but the signal was so weak I don't count it), again software problem. Now even with 3 sats locked, using maps it will at times show me off the road that I'm on (example, travelling on the FL Turnpike and it shows me on a parallel service road, or I exit and map shows me passing the exit before it begins to show the turn.
There is a problem with the GPS and Samsung has acknowleged it and is working on a fix (again hopefully). I certainly don't think the software on the G1 should be so far superior to the one on the Vibrant don't you?
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My gps works good enough to get me somewhere ... that's all I need it for..
I agree. There's some slight downers here...
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I don't think people are being downers for wanting a major feature of their phone to work PROPERLY. Just good enough, is not good enough.
It's like saying well, while they put a nice transmission in my car, it doesn't include reverse...but that's ok because I mostly drive forward.
This "works good enough" or "I don't really use it that much" attitude isn't helping with the fact that this portion of the phone is not working as it should. No complaints for folks like that makes it easy for Samsung to drag their feet on a solution. I am on my THIRD Vibrant (switched out for reason other than the GPS, since that IS broken right now) and the GPS has not performed well enough for me to get any practical use out of it on any of them. Three different Vibrants with different manufacture dates.
There is a problem, a prevalent one. A few people experiencing the problem on just one version of the phone would be one thing, but it affects all models. How Samsung hasn't been taken to task like Apple was is beyond me.
After a nice reboot, GPS in gmaps, GPS test, and any other GPS-enabled app seems to work great. However, after a couple of hours, especially if connected over WiFi, GPS stops acquiring a lock. GPS test even shows that it "sees" a good number of satellites, but fails to lock. The only solution is a reboot, sometimes two.
I have also noticed that during the aGPS lock portion, it tends to jump between tower locations at random. After this, sometimes it will lock, sometimes it will not. I have also noticed that on rare occasions, GPS becomes unavailable altogether.
Please tell me that some among you are experiencing this issue as well? Folks at BAW are reporting the same. I have a Captivate as well, and the problem is *identical* to the issues I see there, except that the aGPS tower association happens much faster on the Epic.
We need a fix, and fast. Evo was FAR faster in acquisition, and 100% reliable.
Downloaded the latest google maps and google nav?
launch sprint nav first, close it, then try google maps/nav.
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Downloaded the latest google maps and google nav?
launch sprint nav first, close it, then try google maps/nav.
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Indeed I have. The issue crops up after a while of non-use. Then, only a reboot comes to the rescue. Sad.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771503
No dice. It works... at first. However, after I left my phone on the charger (and on WiFi) overnight, and started up maps this morning, again on wifi, no lock for over 3 minutes. I started up the Sprint navvy app, and no lock. I went to diagnostics and it got stuck on "waiting for gps" for over 2 minutes until the icon FINALLY stopped pumping away. However, it's still "getting GPS", so I have to tap "go back" and then once more return to GPS diagnostics. It then says "10%", which is obviously a bogus number; GPS Status shows a reasonable fix, though a few satellites are still shown with yellow bars that seem never to quite resolve.
This has NEVER happened with the Evo. Obviously, there are still some unsettling issues with this device's satellite lock.
I was able to replicate this same problem -- Left Wi-Fi on over night, was programming tasker to auto-gps when I open up the Navigation, went to test and now gps will not lock on for me either.
The epic's gps has a lot of the same issues the others have. Sprint lied about the gps being fixed. You will have to wait until Samsung releases the new drivers to get your gps working 100%. They said some time in September.
I had my epic on wifii and charged last night and I just tried my gps here at work and got an automatic lock using google maps which my hero was not that accurate.
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The epic's gps has a lot of the same issues the others have. Sprint lied about the gps being fixed. You will have to wait until Samsung releases the new drivers to get your gps working 100%. They said some time in September.
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ROFLMAO, you really think they will get it 100%, I doubt they even know about the issue of it not working after time. And some time in sept means sept 30th or later so you can't return the phone. I love this phone LOVE LOVE this phone but if they don't fix it soon I"m out.
My Epic has successful navigated me to 3 places so far. Only once did I use it to actually so somewhere I didn't already know how to get to. It was a 25 minute drive and the only thing I noticed different from my EVO was the 98 feet circle bug plaguing the Epic.
For me, that's all I need my GPS for. I start it from my car sitting still. I can't get a lock inside my house when I want to use maps for something, but I couldn't get that with my Evo either. My apartments have an inter-dimensional beast living within the walls that feeds on dreams and cell phone reception...
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ROFLMAO, you really think they will get it 100%, I doubt they even know about the issue of it not working after time. And some time in sept means sept 30th or later so you can't return the phone. I love this phone LOVE LOVE this phone but if they don't fix it soon I"m out.
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Samsung knows of the gps issues and has said they are working on the issue. The gps not working after the first few days is a know issue on all galaxy s phones. Are they going to fix it 100%? Who knows. I returned my captivate and bought a new one just so I can see if the gps gets fixed. If it does not get fixed this month i will be returning my captivate again.
I would guess its probably that the GPS stops coming back from standby... hopefully that is just a driver issue, and not the hardware failing to respond to wakeup singals.
I'm not holding my breath... Sammy is very content to think that the Epic's GPS is performing to spec. They have even said that it meets all their standards and requirements. We need to make some noise.
I have no faith in Samsung making fix so I took it back to Rshack got refund today .
Just to be clear...Samsung never stated that the Epic was going to SHIP on day one with the update.
It may well be a few weeks until the promised update starts rolling out and it's hard to say which Galaxy S carrier will be first.
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I can't believe people return this phone over not so great gps. It sucks yea but hell what phone out is worth leaving this for ?
My gps has gotten me to plenty of places. And no offence but if your 30 meters off and you can't find your destination then maybe you buy a real one... this phones the ****..
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Just to be clear...Samsung never stated that the Epic was going to SHIP on day one with the update.
It may well be a few weeks until the promised update starts rolling out and it's hard to say which Galaxy S carrier will be first.
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I'd agree with you, except that Sammy specifically stated that the Epic's GPS was performing according to their specifications. I take this as meaning that there will be NO update to Epic phones. Infact, many Captivate and Vibrant forums are supposedly pulling files off the Epic in order to "fix" the GPS issues on those phones... I just see this dragging on and on and on, but maybe I'm just used to HTC's inability to push out fixes in any reasonable time - hopefully Sammy will be different.
I just re-read the quote that I've seen in news stories and I would agree that it seems to imply that the Epic was fixed and the Vibrant and Captivate were pending.
It's not clear to me where this quote originated from within Samsung and I'm wondering if there are any language translation issues creeping into this causing a misunderstanding.
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I can't believe people return this phone over not so great gps. It sucks yea but hell what phone out is worth leaving this for ?
My gps has gotten me to plenty of places. And no offence but if your 30 meters off and you can't find your destination then maybe you buy a real one... this phones the ****..
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Apparently many (some) people can not survive day to day living with out being coddled by technology...
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I just re-read the quote that I've seen in news stories and I would agree that it seems to imply that the Epic was fixed and the Vibrant and Captivate were pending.
It's not clear to me where this quote originated from within Samsung and I'm wondering if there are any language translation issues creeping into this causing a misunderstanding.
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I don't think there was a mistranslation. I have no doubt the words of that Samsung statement were carefully parsed by English-speaking marketers and lawyers at both Samsung and its carrier partners. The skill is called dissembling -- giving a false impression by half-truths without actually telling a gross lie.
Note that Samsung did not actually promise to fix the GPS issues in time for the Epic release, but it sure gave that impression, and Sprint acquiesced. For that matter, Samsung has never committed to "fix" the GPS -- which would mean admitting something is broken -- only to "optimize" it. That might be construed to mean anything, and will be so construed if no complete fix materializes. Yet the public paraphrases the statement optimistically and credits Samsung with more of a commitment than it really has made.
This is not naive corporate behavior, but rather sophisticated spin.
I spoke to Verizon about the GPS problem. They told me there not responsible for it. So I said So if I buy a Camera Phone with the intention of using the camera...and if the camera doesnt work...your not responsible? They said no the manufacturer is.
I said I purchased the phone with all intention because of the navigation and maps on BING!!!! I emphasized BING. Because If i said GOOGLE maps they would of said well thats 3rd party.
They said sorry we cant help. I asked can I switch the phone. They said no. can You replace the phone with one that works. They said its a known issue there all like that so we cant. We were waiting for a software fix they said. And I said if that fix never comes do i get my $ back....they said NO.
Verizon said there only responsible for data and calling issues...lol If i have a problem with the phone i should contact samsung.
Sounds like a typical response from a csr drone.
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why is verzion responsible for a problem that is caused by the manufactor?
you have a 30 day period where you can easily replace the phone for htc incredible, droid x, or droid 2..
Ok its simple first I need to say I already put my fascinate up for sale.
Second when I purchased the phone originally I complained about the GPS many times. The issue was confirmed and they swapped it out with a new one. Then when I got the new one the issue was still there. I was told by tech support that the issue is confirmed and that there is no new fix and that there would be a fix released in 2 weeks. So I decided to hold onto the phone after hearing that the fix was being released in that time frame. There was a fix released........but it was not for the GPS.
Now after sometime of no fix. I called verizon explained top them I only bought the phone to use BING maps and without a working GPS of which is advertised it is of no use.
In my history of being with VERIZON any time I had a hardware issue or any issue with there phones I would take it into the store. Tech would look at it and if the problem is confirmed..........warrenty states that they FIX it, or replace it or give my $ back if not solved.
This is THE only phone ive ever had that verizon has told me that they are not responsible. So to have my gps fixed or replaced after the 30 days due to non working GPS id have to speak with SAMSUNG.
You say Verizon is not responsible? Show me a time that anyone has ever gone through the manufacturer for warrenty service. FOR A CELL PHONE.
THE CELL PROVIDER is responsible for the warrenty........how do i know.....I called Samsung and they saids that...And im sure if you call verizon about any other phone they will tell you to go to tech support and have phone fixed or replaced or get a another phone.
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Ok its simple first I need to say I already put my fascinate up for sale.
Second when I purchased the phone originally I complained about the GPS many times. The issue was confirmed and they swapped it out with a new one. Then when I got the new one the issue was still there. I was told by tech support that the issue is confirmed and that there is no new fix and that there would be a fix released in 2 weeks. So I decided to hold onto the phone after hearing that the fix was being released in that time frame. There was a fix released........but it was not for the GPS.
Now after sometime of no fix. I called verizon explained top them I only bought the phone to use BING maps and without a working GPS of which is advertised it is of no use.
In my history of being with VERIZON any time I had a hardware issue or any issue with there phones I would take it into the store. Tech would look at it and if the problem is confirmed..........warrenty states that they FIX it, or replace it or give my $ back if not solved.
This is THE only phone ive ever had that verizon has told me that they are not responsible. So to have my gps fixed or replaced after the 30 days due to non working GPS id have to speak with SAMSUNG.
You say Verizon is not responsible? Show me a time that anyone has ever gone through the manufacturer for warrenty service. FOR A CELL PHONE.
THE CELL PROVIDER is responsible for the warrenty........how do i know.....I called Samsung and they saids that...And im sure if you call verizon about any other phone they will tell you to go to tech support and have phone fixed or replaced or get a another phone.
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Are you people ever going to do a search? We have a workaround for the GPS - the GPS Status application in the market. Whenever you're about to use GPS, go to GPS Status, hit the Menu key, Settings, GPS & Sensors, Manage A-GPS state, Reset. Then go back to the main GPS Status screen and wait for locks in the lower right hand corner. If there are no locks (only satellite's detected) after about a minute, drag down your notification bar and turn off your GPS for about 10 seconds, then turn it back on and watch the magic happen.
Geez.
There were several people that had HTC fix their TP2s, both VZW and Sprint that I've seen. Usually, the carriers just deal with it themselves and save you the hassle.
Did i really buy a phone for a work around like that?
I bought it to work. And from what people are saying .... 2.2 does not fix the gps on the vibrant.
Either way ... just wanted to say what i was told.
I already packed mine up.
Let me know when your camera doesnt work......ill come up with a work around. lol
Personally, I can wait a minute for it to get a gps lock. I'm never in that much of a hurry that I can't wait a few extra seconds for a lock. I also have found that leaving GPS enabled all the time will result in faster locks than if it's turned on/off as needed. GPS Status also helps, though isn't as needed when GPS is always on. I've used a TomTom and it gets a GPS lock as fast as the Fascinate, and it's a dedicated GPS device, so I won't complain about a minor detail.
My .02, I get a lock in less than 30 seconds on an untouched fascinate. Usually it's 8-10 sats in view and locked on 4 or more in that 30 seconds with 6 locked in another 15 seconds. Seems its a hit or miss problem.
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Sherwood1 said:
Did i really buy a phone for a work around like that?
I bought it to work. And from what people are saying .... 2.2 does not fix the gps on the vibrant.
Either way ... just wanted to say what i was told.
I already packed mine up.
Let me know when your camera doesnt work......ill come up with a work around. lol
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Since you have a faulty phone with your GPS issue you should have a cheap price in mind right? Shoot me a PM on what you want for it...
takes about an hour for my gps to lock
From what I've seen, gps status trick just runs a gps cache clearing script. So to me this just seems like a direct link to samsung's clusterfu*k of a data filesystem.
You should have sent your ninjas. Sorry, I couldn't resist.
My Ninjas are deadly
GPS Booster on the market seems to work for quite a few people.
Daswolven said:
GPS Booster on the market seems to work for quite a few people.
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Yup. Even though it says it fails, it clearly does not fail with 6 sec. locks.
good day.
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Since you have a faulty phone with your GPS issue you should have a cheap price in mind right? Shoot me a PM on what you want for it...
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icwudt . . .
Daswolven said:
GPS Booster on the market seems to work for quite a few people.
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Agreed, apparently it's software related. Maybe hardware, but I did the gps booster and it locks in 10 flat.
Daswolven said:
GPS Booster on the market seems to work for quite a few people.
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Didn't work for me.
adrynalyne said:
Didn't work for me.
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Damnit!
Did you do anything to alter GPS from stock in GPSsetup that maybe others didn't? Wireless network assistance checked?
I haven't tried the Booster yet but was hopeful.
All of us here suffer from useless GPS on our SGS to which I'm sure there's no cure. This there here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847853 states that Samsung admits that the issue is hardware issue and is reluctant to repair the same. I was wondering on how many of us are actually interested in filing a case in consumer court against Samsung India for their abysmal service and product support.
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All of us here suffer from useless GPS on our SGS to which I'm sure there's no cure. This there here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847853 states that Samsung admits that the issue is hardware issue and is reluctant to repair the same. I was wondering on how many of us are actually interested in filing a case in consumer court against Samsung India for their abysmal service and product support.
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Legaly, you first have to contact the reseller and let them try to "fix the issue" before you can do anything. The dumbest of lawyer would pinpoint the fact that "if you haven't" return the malfunctionning unit firts, you haven't let the chance to get it fixed first.
They don't understand what's warranty is and how it works.
Time after time i see complain but they don't do what they should.
Let them pay Money to a lawyer if they think it help them...
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t1mman said:
Legaly, you first have to contact the reseller and let them try to "fix the issue" before you can do anything. The dumbest of lawyer would pinpoint the fact that "if you haven't" return the malfunctionning unit firts, you haven't let the chance to get it fixed first.
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The repair center guys here at my place are clueless on what froyo is and what GTi9000 is in the first place. Let alone be the fact that they would know there exists a problem with GPS on the phone. I also tried mail support here two weeks ago to which there has been no reply yet from them.
6 votes but none coming forward!?!? Strange...
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All of us here suffer from useless GPS on our SGS to which I'm sure there's no cure. This there here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847853 states that Samsung admits that the issue is hardware issue and is reluctant to repair the same. I was wondering on how many of us are actually interested in filing a case in consumer court against Samsung India for their abysmal service and product support.
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I have an Samsung Galaxy I9000 India version and the issue can be easily fixed by tweaking your GPS settings, I will be posting a How-to demo soom with images. I can definitely say that the issue is software and not hardware.
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I have an Samsung Galaxy I9000 India version and the issue can be easily fixed by tweaking your GPS settings, I will be posting a How-to demo soom with images. I can definitely say that the issue is software and not hardware.
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My GPS works too but get's a fix on satellites after 10+ minutes on standalone/MS Based and an instant fix when connected to wifi. Haven't checked how long it takes with GPRS. The problem/question is does it take 10+ minutes and sometimes forever on Standalone/MS Based. With full sky view (12 satellites) and sensors enabled? In other words it sees the satellites but takes forever to lock on it.
I'll eagerly await for your guide to fix this mess...
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I'll eagerly await for your guide to fix this mess...
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Don't keep your hopes too high. You'll be dissapointed.
The software bull**** is starting to be sickening.
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My GPS works too but get's a fix on satellites after 10+ minutes on standalone/MS Based and an instant fix when connected to wifi. Haven't checked how long it takes with GPRS. The problem/question is does it take 10+ minutes and sometimes forever on Standalone/MS Based. With full sky view (12 satellites) and sensors enabled? In other words it sees the satellites but takes forever to lock on it.
I'll eagerly await for your guide to fix this mess...
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Strange, after the new settings I get a fix in 2-3 minutes max on Airtel Edge network, will be posting the settings soon.
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My GPS works too but get's a fix on satellites after 10+ minutes on standalone/MS Based and an instant fix when connected to wifi. Haven't checked how long it takes with GPRS. The problem/question is does it take 10+ minutes and sometimes forever on Standalone/MS Based. With full sky view (12 satellites) and sensors enabled? In other words it sees the satellites but takes forever to lock on it.
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How well does it work after it's locked on (e.g. in a driving test)? I usually get a lock in less than a minute but after that the GPS is a bit iffy.
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How well does it work after it's locked on (e.g. in a driving test)? I usually get a lock in less than a minute but after that the GPS is a bit iffy.
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I had not done much testing as I own the device since past 10 days only with one trip utilizing GPS, but after the fix it worked fine whenever I needed it.
If the phone is not getting a fix within 10 seconds its failing. My old iPhone 3g would get a fix within 5 seconds usually and it's pretty damn accurate.
thedauntlessone said:
If the phone is not getting a fix within 10 seconds its failing. My old iPhone 3g would get a fix within 5 seconds usually and it's pretty damn accurate.
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Yeah, I also had an iPhone 3G and everything about it was of top-quality. No doubt.
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All of us here...
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All of us?
i live in the uk and think we should do it for every body not just india my gps is the same all over the place i no its a phone and no a tom tom ...what gets me mad is how can samsung get away with selling some thing that cant be fixed...
Hi - I started a thread with a similar intention:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841622
Unfortunately, we could not find any common ground for action. I see 4 major challenges:
1. There is no evidence that Samsung can or will repair phones with a bad GPS; in fact; I do not remember any post that calims he/she sent in the phone and it came back with a fully working GPS.
2. There is no hope to win a legal battle - we have no case (no systematic data) and multinational companies have powerful legal teams and a lot of playing money
3. We have not developed any ideas how to extert customer power to hurt Samsung at the reputation level; this would directly get top management attention but how to do it?
4. We have a responsibility to let prospective buyers know about SGS quality issues (lag, GPS etc); Samsung is selling tons of new phones and now also Tabs!
I just want a top quality phone from a company I trust and respect. Willing to pay good money in return and remain a loyal customer.
I am considering converting to Apple or go for an android competitor - HTC looks promising but I don't know enough about them - any opinions?
That's why I always prefer importing my phones from Europe or US.
To ALL who are frustrated with the GPS of Samsung and their laid back attitude. Buy the HTC Desire HD :-D
From what I've heard, HTC has large issue with WiFi and still, to this day, can't support real multitouch. So the best advise would most likely be:
Do your research BEFORE you buy anything... every company has issue, avery company is most likely working on it and resolving issue WILL TAKE SOME TIME from all company. Period.
DHD has its up point as its downpoint, as has any device out there. So if you want flawless GSP, the SGS might not be the best choice (I can't say about DHD or any other, but my old HTC Vogue's GPS is not as accurate as my SGS). Do your research and find one that will suit you (standalone GPS might be a good choice for anyone with that need of a GPS, for that matters)
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My GPS works too but get's a fix on satellites after 10+ minutes on standalone/MS Based and an instant fix when connected to wifi. Haven't checked how long it takes with GPRS. The problem/question is does it take 10+ minutes and sometimes forever on Standalone/MS Based. With full sky view (12 satellites) and sensors enabled? In other words it sees the satellites but takes forever to lock on it.
I'll eagerly await for your guide to fix this mess...
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I have an SGS manufactured in August 2010 and my GPS works if works means showing the long and lat of a place and the number of satellite etc. It does all this within one minute or less than that.
About going to lawyer, one should be pragmatic. Samsung is a MNC which have vast resources. Fighting with them can have disastrous consequences for a aam aadmi. I admit that some of their SGS are not upto mark. But then you will have patently approach them and get it replaced /repaired.
I think legally you may have a tough case because samsung never promised gps fix in x seconds. And most folks gps works but slow.
I would suggest use social media and other media to show samsung's lousy support and product.
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I don't know what to say. Have tried all settings. The gps works fine most of the time on mainland. But the moment I land in Port Blair it just stops working. Just refuses to give a lock even though it has 8 satellites in view. My stand alone gps has no such problems. Gives me a perfect lock even in air. Having said that it's not gonna be easy to sue Samsung. First we will have to prove that the gps is ****. Btw has anyone tried returning the sgs for the gps problem?
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Two epics, exact same software, baseband, kernel, both freshly reflashed... one sees 9 satellites and locks onto 8 right away and the other sees same 9 satellites right away but will not get a fix. I'm getting ready to rip my hair out and gnaw my nails down. Why, Samsung, why can't you get something right that my Nokia n95 got right almost fiv years ago?
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Not more of the same crap about GPS. We know already some epic, the GPS works others dont.
Let me guess. One phone was your old phone that you had replaced by the new phone because of the GPS issue. The new phone locks on right away when the old phone doesn't. Hmm, this issue has only been covered about 30,000 times in these forums. Your new phone has an empty cache when your old phone had a cache with old data in it. Give your new phone about a week and magically it will be "broken" like your old phone.
If my prediction is correct, move on, nothing to see here.
Actually, no. I got them both on the same day.. one is mine, one is wife's. I'm the biggest preacher on these boards about this retarded cache bug and trust me, this is not it in my case.
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Yay!!! Another thread about gps!!
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hmm as for the n95, i followed an online tut and downloaded garmin for my n95 a while back and i remember it would take much much longer than the epic to catch a signal..
shook187 said:
Not more of the same crap about GPS. We know already some epic, the GPS works others dont.
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Wrong!
Every Epic off the assembly line has GPS issue so please no more of the same crap.
sling said:
Wrong!
Every Epic off the assembly line has GPS issue so please no more of the same crap.
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Mine works just fine and Im an avid user of GPS....
Now I'm sure this is where you say, "Just wait...it will start messing up in time"...
Followed by my response of, "Well...its been working thus far so I'm just going to ride the GPS train until I have issues"
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Wrong!
Every Epic off the assembly line has GPS issue so please no more of the same crap.
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Not again!!! Dude my GPS works the balls. I use it just for ****s and giggles. I use it even if I know were I'm going.
shook187 said:
Not again!!! Dude my GPS works the balls. I use it just for ****s and giggles. I use it even if I know were I'm going.
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lol.
This has been gone over so so many times my friends.
Just because you get fast fix doesn't mean your getting true fix.It takes at least 5 loc to get accurate positioning.
On first power up You will get fast fix 9+ loc then when you turn off whatever gps app running then turn back on you will get fast fix only 1 loc if lucky.
gps Cach isn't clearing thus more then one loc is scarce after first gps app open.
Only way to get it working again temporarily is to battery pull so gps cach clears.
That my friends is gps issue.
Why some Epic owners are in denial of that fact is beyond me.
They get fast position fix & think no GPS issue present everything's dandy.
Samsung has been aware of issue for some time hopefully they get their act together and release patch soon put to rest such threads
I agreei have owned 3 Epic's and every single one's gps sucked.
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