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Eric Schmidt, Dreamforce Conference San Francisco
" We have a new operating system, internally known as Ice Cream Sandwich for some reason, which is being released in October/November, which everyone's really excited about."
Yeah right
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Yeah right
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uhh...yeah...right
For XPeria X10?
Hello!
This new version will run on my Xperia X10?
This is the Xperia X10 forum, so i guess this version will run, but i need to know
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Hello!
This new version will run on my Xperia X10?
This is the Xperia X10 forum, so i guess this version will run, but i need to know
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Well there is no official update for X10 by that time sadly.
But Sony has announced that the 2011 phones will have the update, which I think devs will be able to port it onto our X10s. Moreover there would be a CM version of it as well.
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aR_ChRiS said:
Well there is no official update for X10 by that time sadly.
But Sony has announced that the 2011 phones will have the update, which I think devs will be able to port it onto our X10s. Moreover there would be a CM version of it as well.
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Do you think that X10 can run this new version without problems (slowness, etc)?
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Do you think that X10 can run this new version without problems (slowness, etc)?
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who knows??
The sdk isn't out, and google hasn't released the recommended minimum specs, etc...
It's a dumb convo at the moment, since there is no possible way to answer your question
I heard that the new update will be made to run even on some low spec phones so it might be possible
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I heard that the new update will be made to run even on some low spec phones so it might be possible
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I watch Google i/o all the time and they did say that they will be releasing it for low spec phones. But the problem is SE. They wont want to spend money on a phone from last year so I hate to say it. The X10 will not get 4.0 ICS officially but unofficially yes we will.
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stock roms?
lets wait for the devs to make custom android 4.0 roms so that we can use it in our aging-and-losing-official-support x10..
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lets wait for the devs to make custom android 4.0 roms so that we can use it in our aging-and-losing-official-support x10..
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"losing" it was lost since july 29
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I may have to upgrade my phone for ice cream lol
Can the x10 rly go much faster?
Doubt there will be any devs left by them
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Ice cream sandwich will be epic
There has been a few sneek peaks on the web and I like what I've seen!
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I hope it can become a reality in our x10 ... Our devs have done a great job. By Sony Ericsson we can't expect anything because they said they will not upgrade beyond 2.3, remember that they said the same thing with the upgrade to 2.1 and now we have our phones with 2.3
I'm fine with SE not releasing 4.0 for the X10. It's an old phone and I don't expect SE to bankrupt themselves just to do so. Gingerbread is pretty robust and there's a huge number of apps that work with it, it's not going anywhere for a while. I think the only other phone from that Android era that will get 4.0 is maybe the Nexus One.
However, since the '11 Xperia range *is* getting ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich), they are probably going to use the same kernel (2.3.32 - based on their prior history). With that said; Their's absolutely no reason why the devs won't be able to port ICS to the X10 (unless if Google does a 180 and doesn't release the source code - like they had with Honeycomb). As far as an official 4.0 for the X10, I doubt it and there's no reason to get anyone's hopes up or else we're going to have another full on XDA SE X10 revolt like before, haha.
It can change but I think ICS will see the X10 only through the devs.
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Do you think that X10 can run this new version without problems (slowness, etc)?
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Ice cream sandwich
or Android 4
Is "scale able"
The x10 now has a unlocked bootloader.
So it may be possible for someone to port it.
Currently honeycomb is running successfully on new tab device
I am waiting for that one on my x10
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If 4.0 launches in December then we may have to wait till march
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i hope by then there will still be dev to write for the x10. i will be using the x10 for another few years.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_releases_official_statement_regarding_ice_cream_sandwich-news-3291.php
looks like htc has begun work on their future. Hope a leaked rom will come around soon
topupcash said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_releases_official_statement_regarding_ice_cream_sandwich-news-3291.php
looks like htc has begun work on their future. Hope a leaked rom will come around soon
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yes,i am waiting for it too....
Samarth Rasiwasia - 10:37 AM (edited) - Public
Technically all the Android powered devices capable of running of Android Gingerbread will be able to run Android 4.0 ICS but Practically all devices may not give an overall good user experience . So all the manufactures are reviewing ICS on their devices to check the user experience and will release the latest OS according to the results.
HTC's list of devices that will surely get ICS :
* HTC Sensation (XL,XE,Original)
* HTC EVO 3D
* HTC Incredible S
* HTC Desire HD
* HTC Flyer
* HTC Rhyme
* HTC Desire S
* HTC Salsa
* HTC Desire Z
* Google Nexus One
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https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/PxQ6cVjVdUd
Samarth Rasiwasia - Oct 8, 2011 - Mobile - Public
HTC Sense
As you are already aware that HTC Sense is the best UI on Android till date. With the Android ICS around the corner we are thinking of taking HTC Sense to a whole new level.
Re-designed, Re-vamped, Smoother and even more user friendly HTC Sense 4.0 coming with Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich.
Any suggestions you would like us to work on?
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https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/A9Y3DhxGyP7
@hamdir are you saying thte dhd will get official ics?
"The just-unveiled Ice Cream Sandwich version of Android (aka Android 4.0) may not be coming to some of HTC’s best-selling smarties, a statement from the phone-maker suggests.
Google lifted the lid on the new iteration of its platform yesterday. Melding the choicest features of the Honeycomb tablet-optimised version with the Gingerbread edition for smartphones, Ice Cream Sandwich brings a smart new multi-tasking interface with slicker notifications and widgets to Android phones, as well as revamped takes on native apps.
But if you’re an HTC Android phone owner, you’d best not get too excited just yet."
According to:
http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news...ream_sandwich_ruled_out_for_htc_desire_range/
That sounds promising actually: HTC won't release the update to those devices "if it feels an update would compromise their usability." I don't see any reason why it should, but even if they don't release it that sounds like they'll be testing it so there's sure to be leaked test ROMs to play with.
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hopscotchjunkie said:
That sounds promising actually: HTC won't release the update to those devices "if it feels an update would compromise their usability." I don't see any reason why it should, but even if they don't release it that sounds like they'll be testing it so there's sure to be leaked test ROMs to play with.
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+1 it doesn't really matter if our phones get the official update. What really matters is that HTC has said they will be working on ics and sense, and that means our devs will have some upcoming work to do
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Awesome, can't wait to see what they come up with.
Great news!
Waiting the first rom with ICS leaked or official.
The desire devs are hands on!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310914
DHD devs what are you waiting !
great news ,cant wait
llawarta said:
Great news!
Waiting the first rom with ICS leaked or official.
The desire devs are hands on!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310914
DHD devs what are you waiting !
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where are too in love with sense to bother
I doubt the Desire HD will get the official update.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/android-4-...elopers-and-users-all-around-the-world-video/
We're sooooooooooo close!
yes we are so close maybe one or two weeks
here you go, you can relax now
by HTC on Friday, October 21, 2011 at 1:14pm
Since Google unveiled Ice Cream Sandwich earlier this week, HTC has been looking closely at the new OS's features and functionality to determine our upgrade plans. We're a recognized industry leader in providing fast and consistent upgrades to our Android devices (see what Engadget had to say about our upgrades: http://engt.co/qMb9nQ), and Ice Cream Sandwich will be no different.
Upgrades require a careful balance of hardware and software to ensure the best possible performance and usability, so please stay tuned as we assess our product portfolio. Our goal is to upgrade as many HTC devices as possible and we'll be sharing details on specific devices and timing in the coming weeks!
Thanks!
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twitter: Is Ice Cream Sandwich coming to @HTC phones? You bet it is! Please see initial info here. More details to come! http://on.fb.me/qULi4t
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hamdir said:
here you go, you can relax now
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150493158328084
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will have to wait for a few weeks to see if the DHD is in the update list till then flash away keep the hope and for me and some other fellows puff on the herb
Well HTC uses the same chip for all their android line up. I guess it wouldn't be so hard for them to update majority of their phones unlike samsung, moto, LG that uses tegra, TI, Exynos and qualcomm. i am still hoping that our DHDs will get the official update.
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well i honestly think that the Desire HD is the most powerful device among the 1Ghz single core phones in terms of GPU and RAM and all others it is very powerful...if HTC will say ICS will compromise the performance of the device i think it's only a marketing strategy and the DEVS will prove it
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well i honestly think that the Desire HD is the most powerful device among the 1Ghz single core phones in terms of GPU and RAM and all others it is very powerful...if HTC will say ICS will compromise the performance of the device i think it's only a marketing strategy and the DEVS will prove it
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Agreed - I think the high end phones like the DHD will run ICS without a problem. It's still high end, if you compare its CPU/GPU/RAM with other devices. However the mid-range phones won't, and I'd expect HTC to be conservative about their decisions there.
All the same, once the cooks get going, I think the ROMs will be even better than HTC standard
hamdir said:
here you go, you can relax now
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150493158328084
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great news
Moving this to the Dev section sorry if im not allowed to move it
I don't know much when it comes to development.
I'm guessing our G2's just can't run the regular vanilla ICS. What changes do you have to consider when bringing a different version of Android onto different phones?
I'm curious how the virtual buttons will be handled.
On Honeycomb, the virtual buttons are there most of the time but not always, and it appears ICS works the same way. I assume they will just be mapped to the hardware buttons, but I'm curious how it will be handled in cases like the video player where the on-screen buttons would usually hide.
However, I know our devs will figure something out
Looking forward to ICS on both my Galaxy Tab LE and G2.
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I'm curious how the virtual buttons will be handled.
On Honeycomb, the virtual buttons are there most of the time but not always, and it appears ICS works the same way. I assume they will just be mapped to the hardware buttons, but I'm curious how it will be handled in cases like the video player where the on-screen buttons would usually hide.
However, I know our devs will figure something out
Looking forward to ICS on both my Galaxy Tab LE and G2.
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I'm not sure how it would handle in full screen applications, but I'm willing to bet that a touch on the screen would bring the bar up.
However, if I recall, the virtual buttons won't be there for phones that have physical buttons (or at least an option to turn on/off?).
Jorsher said:
I'm curious how the virtual buttons will be handled.
On Honeycomb, the virtual buttons are there most of the time but not always, and it appears ICS works the same way. I assume they will just be mapped to the hardware buttons, but I'm curious how it will be handled in cases like the video player where the on-screen buttons would usually hide.
However, I know our devs will figure something out
Looking forward to ICS on both my Galaxy Tab LE and G2.
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No virtual buttons because we have hardware buttons already
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@muffinwaffle bro is too early to talk about android 4.0 os Ice cream sandwich . CM9 will probably have an alpha version like gingerbread in December/ Early January. Beta at end of January through Mid Febuary 2012. Probably finalize the rom by Late Febuary to Early March like gingerbread.
add119 said:
@muffinwaffle bro is too early to talk about android 4.0 os Ice cream sandwich . CM9 will probably have an alpha version like gingerbread in December/ Early January. Beta at end of January through Mid Febuary 2012. Probably finalize the rom by Late Febuary to Early March like gingerbread.
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Uhhh.. There's a few phones that already have working ports, the Desire Z's is getting close, and CM team announced 2 months before they'd have something released (tentatively 2 months obviously but still) which even with delays would only put us to late January or early February
That sound great hopefully they have the Rom at beta if not final around Valentime day lolz
Read on:
(Via Drippler)
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/05/no-android-4-0-update-for-the-sony-xperia-play/
If this turns out to be true I'll be saying goodbye to Sony once I need to upgrade phone :'( shame I've always like Sony ericsson
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Read on:
(Via Drippler)
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/05/no-android-4-0-update-for-the-sony-xperia-play/
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Just read an article yesterday saying the same thing, then there was a reply from a Sony Rep saying that Xperia PLAY is still on track for ICS, and that the reason for the missing Xperia PLAY from the list was due to a typo. I am trying to find the article now and will post the link here, but the Rep said that the PLAY was totally getting ICS. The Xperia Arc S and Neo have the same and or similar specs and that there was no reason that the PLAY would not get it.
This is not the article but still wanted to post. Read the last two posts, claiming that a VZ Rep told them that ICS was coming sometime in June/July to R800x....(I smell BullSh!t)
exactly what i thought too.. the play has the same specs as the ray, arc, and neo
sigh
and if they keep telling us the XPlay won't run ICS as good as it runs GB, then why the hell a lower-end phone such as the upcoming Xperia Tipo (at 800MHz and Adreno 200) is getting ICS when it's released? that means the Xplay can handle it well...
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exactly what i thought too.. the play has the same specs as the ray, arc, and neo
sigh
and if they keep telling us the XPlay won't run ICS as good as it runs GB, then why the hell a lower-end phone such as the upcoming Xperia Tipo (at 800MHz and Adreno 200) is getting ICS when it's released? that means the Xplay can handle it well...
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Absoultely agree, Tipo has ancient hardware, 3 years old at least for the GPU
Some people argue that the Xperia Play performs worse on ICS when it comes to gaming. Maybe that´s the reason. I´ve read an article on droidgamers.com where the ICS Beta for Xperia Play had problems with some games.
But I think even if it is the case Sony would bring the update. Sony doesn´t prompt us to update to ICS if people don´t want it. Because of that there isn´t an OTA update, just through PC Companion.
if we dont get it on play then can we flash it as a stock rom when it offically comes out by using the ics update on xperia ray. Example?
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Some people argue that the Xperia Play performs worse on ICS when it comes to gaming. Maybe that´s the reason. I´ve read an article on droidgamers.com where the ICS Beta for Xperia Play had problems with some games.
But I think even if it is the case Sony would bring the update. Sony doesn´t prompt us to update to ICS if people don´t want it. Because of that there isn´t an OTA update, just through PC Companion.
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I don't understand that, here, with the updated Adreno drivers, Fifa 12 runs even faster on ICS. Sure, Gameloft and Rockstar games just crash, but can they be lazy enough for not fixing that?
I love ics to death and I cannot wait for the official version to come out.
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Ive just flashed back to Gingerbread due to a few of the issues with games. Mainly emulators. I had my GBA games backed up onto my netbook and played them on my Play but unfortunately on ICS, no GBA emulators work. It reminds me of Windows XP vs Windows Vista and 7. Some older games don't run on Vista/7 due to compatibilty problems and that appears to be whats happening here with the Play. You want ALL your games to work then stick to Gingerbread. I do however think that Android needs to implement a "Compatibility Mode" type function seen in Windows OSes.
Also, ICS is a memory hog. I always run GO Launcher EX on my Play due to hating the Xperia Launcher but GO Launcher lags quite a bit on ICS roms. Exiting the app draw gives a blank screen (just wallpaper shows) for about 10 seconds before everything shows up again. Scrolling also proves to be very jerky. GO Launcher also provides a handy task killer that is just a 1 press job, making "swipe" task killing pointless.
Im pretty sure as well that ICS is doing away with flash video support. I may be wrong though.
All in all, the cons of ICS outweigh the pros. However, thats just my opinion. I say the Xperia Play should just be a Gingerbread device. If you absolutely NEED ICS, then buy a newer handset.
Has anyone checked if ICS for the Xperia Play is available through PC Companion ?
GBoid (GBA emulator) works on my ICS Rom. Playing Baldur's Gatte Dark Alliance
"Im pretty sure as well that ICS is doing away with flash video support. I may be wrong though."
Flash runs fine on my ICS Tablet..
I haven't been able to check the link (leaving work so a bit rushed) but I'd be shocked, and need more proof then this, that ICS isn't coming. Most of the problems I've heard from the beta sound like.. beta related issues. Code set to Debug, that sort of thing.
Still confident ICS is coming. Better then GB for our device? No idea, but I'd bet (small) amounts of money it's still coming.
Sony did release a Beta rom for the Xperia Play. So they might be working on it to fix the issues or they won't be releasing ICS because it will incompatible.
I really hope the Play doesn't do what the X10 was doing when Froyo was about as old as ICS is now.
I love ICS on my Amaze, but the roms I have tried on my play just don't seem to match up, I'm still running 2.2.4 now, and I think it is running fine.
Was just about to post this, Mentioned on The Verge as well
http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/24/3041799/sony-mobile-drops-xperia-play-ics-upgrade
This news would be horrible if true.
I got fed up waiting for Sony to get their bums in check and yesterday I flashed the true ancestor rom which runs much smoother than stock. I've left my bootloader locked hoping ICS would be here soon so I could experience ICS for the first time when it's official.
First of all, excuse me beforehand for an longer post than I had expect from myself, Secondly, have in mind that I'm sharing my own thoughts about the ICS-update and what I have wrote down is saying why Sony wouldn't, IMO, manage to get the ICS out of beta-stage for the Xperia Play, and this is all my own thoughts, and as always,you who are reading this post are free to agree or disagree to this posts information.
to start the post, this is why I would never read an article or anything like this, and especially not believe it when I'm reading it:
1. I Won't believe that the whole Sony Ericsson/Sony development-team has sent out an beta of ICS to Xperia Play for nothing.
2. Giving us promises about ICS since 1. It's from the 2011 Xperia line, and 2. as long as I have reed, the freaking 2011 Xperia-line will be updated, even if we have "weak" hardware for ICS according to Sony (to be straight forward).
3. KalleD from Sony would never have started an forum especially for feedback in the Xperia-forum without having in mind to get the ICS out of beta-stage to release a full-featured ICS for our phone.
4. The telephone cost to much to not be given the ICS update.
5. It would be REALLY BAD (yes, caps on that) PR(Public Responses) for Sony if they just gave up the development for ICS at an beta-stage with all the promises in mind.
6. The Sony Xperia S from this year is PS-certificated as well so that mean that they also have a reason to develop a fully functional PS-pocket with more added to it for ICS, and get the same experience to Xperia Play isn't that hard seen from a developer-perspective.
7. Have the 6 points before and more in mind, how good-looking and badass would Sony be looking for the big mass if they sold a underpowered hardware with this high price and not be giving us ICS, not that good looking or badass, and neither would they have some of their customers remaining (even if they was foolish about the PS3 and don't gonna get many buyers getting an PS4, especially if it has a feature saying OtherOS (bad yoke).
Even if it comes with big problems during Sony Ericssons article about how ICS needs more RAM to function, and has explained why it doesn't gonna run that smooth as GB for example.
But that's just me, and I gonna stay realistic and not listen to much to news-sites that just wanna release articles without news-values according to myself since they are referring to a page where Sony Xperia S isn't even included in the ICS-updates.
So hey, what about if Xperia S isn't given ICS-update either? OMG OMG OMG!!!!!111 :O some of you may start think about that statement from an unreliable source like me, and yeah, I agree, doesn't sound very true, so let's don't listen to the news to much in this case, since I just played a yoke as well like those news-sites)
So let's just wait a couple of days since May isn't even over yet, and then I didn't even mention that June hasn't been knocking on the door yet, and according to Sony/Sony Ericsson it would be late May, early June for the release.
And as a worst case-scenario we still have the ICS-beta (and even some 4.0.4 builds in the Custom ROM-section), and as well we will see the update for Xperia S, and when the the Xperia S gets the ICS-update with PS-pocket, then the developer-community will be able to pull the trigger of anyhow and manage to get the PS-pocket and features from the Xperia S and push it to the Xperia Play and do some APK-edits and perhaps get a somewhat nice user-experience.
No ICS. http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/24/3041799/sony-mobile-drops-xperia-play-ics-upgrade
http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/software/upgrade-to-android-4/
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/...update_for_the_sony_ericsson_xperia_play.html
http://www.phonenews.com/dishonor-h...tablets-sony-nixes-ics-for-xperia-play-20444/
http://androidcommunity.com/sony-ericsson-xperia-play-ics-update-in-doubt-20120524/
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No ICS. http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/24/3041799/sony-mobile-drops-xperia-play-ics-upgrade
http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/software/upgrade-to-android-4/
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/...update_for_the_sony_ericsson_xperia_play.html
http://www.phonenews.com/dishonor-h...tablets-sony-nixes-ics-for-xperia-play-20444/
http://androidcommunity.com/sony-ericsson-xperia-play-ics-update-in-doubt-20120524/
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All I see here is FUD created from Sony messing up a list of ICS devices. One tech site copier news from the others. Each article you listed deals with the same story. Not believing it myself personally, especially when a beta was released.
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Just read this and wanted to share.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/12/1...d&utm_campaign=Feed:+XperiaBlog+(Xperia+Blog)
"Sony has some new firmware on the horizon for the 2011 Xperia handsets. Firmware version number 4.1.B.1.13 is likely to be a new version of Android 4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich. It has been certified for all 2011 handsets apart from the Xperia PLAY. We have no idea what improvements it will bring over the current firmware (4.1.B.0.587), but as it’s the first new firmware in months, we expect bug improvements and maybe some significant enhancements too. "
Source:
http://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=18648
A pity it won't be for the xperia play.
I've just learned to live with Gingerbread on this phone.
Went out and bought a 32GB microsd card and loaded it up with PS1 roms, stuck in the extended battery, and using it as a pure gaming device, with occasional phone calls
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A pity it won't be for the xperia play.
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The only good I can see from these updates woudl be in porting some of the new features (or all) to our phone. Otherwise I would agree with you. Plus, its nice to know that Sony is releasing a update for 2011 phones at the end of 2012.
"If" they do hav a stock Ics for our Play then it "should be" the best ics we can get. Coz its thier job & duty to giv the best to all sony consumer. I'll take it.
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Pissing me off the fact that we're stuck on gingerbread, I hate sony and will never buy another Sony again after they abandoned us on year old firmware.
Even though it is understandable with ICS being worse for gaming than GB..
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Even though it is understandable with ICS being worse for gaming than GB..
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This.
Honestly, we can get panoramas, notification toggles, data management, lock screen widgets and many other "improvements" of 4.x without 4.x... so I'd rather just keep the integrity of my gaming intact.
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This.
Honestly, we can get panoramas, notification toggles, data management, lock screen widgets and many other "improvements" of 4.x without 4.x... so I'd rather just keep the integrity of my gaming intact.
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All I want is google now...
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