Hey everyone, I was a little bored and I got curious as to when the new Sense UI would wind up coming over to the EVO. So, I did the best thing I knew how to do, I googled it.
And I found this, A guy named ONIXBLACK over on android central sent HTC (and Sprint, but he's waiting to hear back from them still) an email asking them about this question.
Here's the link if you choose to follow that thread for updates: http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc...-rep-has-say-about-sense-2-0-gingerbread.html
This is what they told him:
"Dear (MY NAME),
Good question, (MY NAME). I would be more than happy to provide you with as much insight as I can.
All I can really say for sure is that the Evo is going to get an update of some sort to, at the very least, address a few issues with the last update (streaming media, battery life, and a few other problems that have arisen). I have a feeling that this may end up taking a while, since we're thoroughly investigating the battery drain issue, and we want to make sure that it's 100% resolved, prior to releasing another update for the phone. You can, however, follow us on facebook and twitter. Once that Evo update is ready, we'll definately make an annoucement through both of these websites, as well as HTC.com.
Will this update contain the the latest Sense UI update? It's tough to say, a lot of carriers prefer not to share a full list of enhancements with our technical support reps, as they prefer to go for the surprize approach. I would imagine that with the Evo being Sprint's first 4G phone that in order to remain competative with Verizon's Thunderbolt and AT&T's Inspire, I can only really _guess_ that the Evo will eventually see the latest Sense UI (not only that, but speaking from personal experience, the Evo is the phone that we recieve the most request for the latest Sense UI). Bottom line, though; this is something left up to Sprint. We've forwarded many suggestions and many requests for this enhancement, so Sprint knows that interest for this exists.
Can't make any promises, but from what I've seen, I remain optimistic.
Thank you for taking the time to contact us, (MY NAME).
We are always happy to be of assistance. Keep in mind that we are here to answer any questions or concerns between 6am to 1am EST, 7 days a week for your convenience.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number (MY TICKET NUMBER).
Sincerely,
(THE PERSONS NAME)
HTC
EDIT: I also asked about Gingerbread but she dodged my question
So far I have yet to get a response from Sprint"
I'd like to think that's pretty promising to me, but one can only hope.
Sweet. I really hope that the EVO gets the new sense 2.0 update. makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside when you read that email/question
As far as I can tell, he just received that email and posted it today too. So heres to hoping!
wanfaltm said:
Hey everyone, I was a little bored and I got curious as to when the new Sense UI would wind up coming over to the EVO. So, I did the best thing I knew how to do, I googled it.
And I found this, A guy named ONIXBLACK over on android central sent HTC (and Sprint, but he's waiting to hear back from them still) an email asking them about this question.
Here's the link if you choose to follow that thread for updates: http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc...-rep-has-say-about-sense-2-0-gingerbread.html
This is what they told him:
"Dear (MY NAME),
Good question, (MY NAME). I would be more than happy to provide you with as much insight as I can.
All I can really say for sure is that the Evo is going to get an update of some sort to, at the very least, address a few issues with the last update (streaming media, battery life, and a few other problems that have arisen). I have a feeling that this may end up taking a while, since we're thoroughly investigating the battery drain issue, and we want to make sure that it's 100% resolved, prior to releasing another update for the phone. You can, however, follow us on facebook and twitter. Once that Evo update is ready, we'll definately make an annoucement through both of these websites, as well as HTC.com.
Will this update contain the the latest Sense UI update? It's tough to say, a lot of carriers prefer not to share a full list of enhancements with our technical support reps, as they prefer to go for the surprize approach. I would imagine that with the Evo being Sprint's first 4G phone that in order to remain competative with Verizon's Thunderbolt and AT&T's Inspire, I can only really _guess_ that the Evo will eventually see the latest Sense UI (not only that, but speaking from personal experience, the Evo is the phone that we recieve the most request for the latest Sense UI). Bottom line, though; this is something left up to Sprint. We've forwarded many suggestions and many requests for this enhancement, so Sprint knows that interest for this exists.
Can't make any promises, but from what I've seen, I remain optimistic.
Thank you for taking the time to contact us, (MY NAME).
We are always happy to be of assistance. Keep in mind that we are here to answer any questions or concerns between 6am to 1am EST, 7 days a week for your convenience.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number (MY TICKET NUMBER).
Sincerely,
(THE PERSONS NAME)
HTC
EDIT: I also asked about Gingerbread but she dodged my question
So far I have yet to get a response from Sprint"
I'd like to think that's pretty promising to me, but one can only hope.
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I'm going to call BS on that "reply."
Look at all of the typos.
I'd also like to sincerely believe HTC wouldn't hire a rep that would send a reply with the word "surprize" in it.
FAKE.
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I'm going to call BS on that "reply."
Look at all of the typos.
I'd also like to sincerely believe HTC wouldn't hire a rep that would send a reply with the word "surprize" in it.
FAKE.
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Believe what you want, I remain hopeful.
Here's even more evidence to show this is fake:
The lamer "onixblack" on the other forum posted this
As my title clearly states
I just received this from a HTC rep. Who dealt with some of my inquires in the past. This is NOT an official word from HTC
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Reading the context of the supposed "email," they wanted it to sound as OFFICIAL as possible. Almost as if HTC really replied, but did a whole bunch of drugs and forgot how to compose good, professional sounding sentences.
What a joke. Try harder next time onixblack.
HTC at least hires people that can spell 5th grade level words properly.
Or you could flash a rom based off of Sense 2.0 and have instant satisfaction.
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Here's even more evidence to show this is fake:
The lamer "onixblack" on the other forum posted this
Reading the context of the supposed "email," they wanted it to sound as OFFICIAL as possible. Almost as if HTC really replied, but did a whole bunch of drugs and forgot how to compose good, professional sounding sentences.
What a joke. Try harder next time onixblack.
HTC at least hires people that can spell 5th grade level words properly.
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OH SNAPS! He called you out son! WHATCHUGONNADO?!*[email protected]*
powered by the tears of a million orphaned alpacas...
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Or you could flash a rom based off of Sense 2.0 and have instant satisfaction.
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I am only aware of 1 EVO ROM that has sense 2.5
it is still in beta... Myn is working his Warm Z Rom.
it should be released in a week or 2.
which are you talking about???
Dan330 said:
I am only aware of 1 EVO ROM that has sense 2.5
it is still in beta... Myn is working his Warm Z Rom.
it should be released in a week or 2.
which are you talking about???
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The newest version of Sense is 2.0 not 2.5.
Dan330 said:
I am only aware of 1 EVO ROM that has sense 2.5
it is still in beta... Myn is working his Warm Z Rom.
it should be released in a week or 2.
which are you talking about???
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there are many, many roms with sense 2.0. none of them were ever very popular though.
IF this is real it's bad news... It confirms the next update will just be maintanance and not gingerbread...
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Yeah, I'm calling total bs on this one too. Mainly because I just don't see an HTC rep "speculating" on rumors. Hell, they might even get fired for it.
Yeah... I didn't have to read the whole thing to realize it was fake.
I was in a Sprint store. asked one of the techs if the Evo was getting GB, he said "what is that". lol
Me personally I would rather have Sense 2.0 then Gingerbread. I have tried cm7 and really don't see all the hype. Gingerbread is just a skinned froyo to me. I must be missing something. I will wait for Ice cream.
I know there are some enhancements done but nothing I would cry over. Bring on Sense 2.0
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I'm going to call BS on that "reply."
Look at all of the typos.
I'd also like to sincerely believe HTC wouldn't hire a rep that would send a reply with the word "surprize" in it.
FAKE.
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Lmfao win
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Jjday7 said:
Me personally I would rather have Sense 2.0 then Gingerbread. I have tried cm7 and really don't see all the hype. Gingerbread is just a skinned froyo to me. I must be missing something. I will wait for Ice cream.
I know there are some enhancements done but nothing I would cry over. Bring on Sense 2.0
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i agree totally...gingerbread doesnt seem to be much to do about anything to me, kinda plain and boring....the screen off animations are nice but thats bout it...i was using virus roms Z port and it was really cool so i hope we get it soon from HTC, then our devs...
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i agree totally...gingerbread doesnt seem to be much to do about anything to me, kinda plain and boring....the screen off animations are nice but thats bout it...i was using virus roms Z port and it was really cool so i hope we get it soon from HTC, then our devs...
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well since there are probably speed optimizations in GB, and sense 2.0 on top, it would be > stock old froyo sense in a couple different ways
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their are rumors going around that the samsung moment will get 2.1 on the 22nd. if that is true would someone jsut be able to port that over to the hero pretty easily since they are both cdma?
just curious
We already have the CDMA drivers done on the leaked 2.1 build. All we need to put in are 1. Camera drivers 2. Bluetooth drivers
Toast just got multitouch working, so yay!
yeah true, well bluetooth is what i really need and I actually kinda like stock 2.1 more than sense, i think its mostly because ive had sense for awhile and like change.
sprint reps officially stated that there is no plan to release any update on the 22nd of the sprint forum.
It is well known that we are going to rollout 2.1 for the Moment, so that's not a new revelation. To me the intent of the article is to predict the impending release and I felt I should set the expectation. Many folks have expressed they are confused and they get conflicting information or no information/silence and they have been given promises that go unfulfilled. Just look at the comments following that article from folks who are certainly going to be disappointed even if it has been tagged as unofficial.
Yes, the target date is still 1H2010 and while I don't intend to address all future posts containing future date predictions, I feel it is necessary to disclaim the end of February rumored date. Customers who read that article should not hope that the 2.1 software will be available so please don't call the stores, please don't call Customer Care, please don't call Samsung taking a chance on the software.
Instead, monitor the situation here. This is your best source for data, I promised I would return from time to time with some updates and anyone who believes that know that if the software was that close to launching, I would have posted about it (basically means I am "coming back with an update as we get closer"). So I'm sorry I had to be so strong with my characterization of that article but with the high expectations for this update and I wanted to make sure this didn't go anywhere. No software for neither Moment nor Hero on 2/22, sorry. Please be patient and check back here."
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rumor squashed
nooo
well i dont go fully by that. I AM A SPRINT REP and work at a sprint corporate store and in all honesty people here at xda, gizmodo, endgadget etc... usually get info 10 times quicker than they tell the employees.
I thought the rumor was march?
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I thought the rumor was march?
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I'm pretty sure that's for the hero not the moment
HeroMeng said:
We already have the CDMA drivers done on the leaked 2.1 build. All we need to put in are 1. Camera drivers 2. Bluetooth drivers
Toast just got multitouch working, so yay!
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multitouch on 2.1? is there a patch out yet?
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multitouch on 2.1? is there a patch out yet?
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he said not this weekend cause of vday, but soon
Toast also just got OpenGL working He also says they are close to getting the camera working too.
Ohhhhh sweet!
I can personally live w/o bluetooth. Never use it. But camera is a must-have for me, so right now sticking to the AOSP 1.6
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sprint reps officially stated that there is no plan to release any update on the 22nd of the sprint forum.
rumor squashed
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Yes, the target date is still 1H2010 and while I don't intend to address all future posts containing future date predictions, I feel it is necessary to disclaim the end of February rumored date. Customers who read that article should not hope that the 2.1 software will be available so please don't call the stores, please don't call Customer Care, please don't call Samsung taking a chance on the software.
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The whole point of Sprint's forum is damage control.
Do just the opposite. Call Customer Care as much as possible, Call Samsung / HTC.
yeah we really need this 2.1 update already.
As soon as the devs get the camera going i will run 2.1 as my daily rom. I dont use bluetooth so that doesnt matter
Anyone want to trade a moment for a hero? The keyboard or lack there of is killing me. I ve had the hero since release you would think I would be use to it by now.
Tipharet said:
Anyone want to trade a moment for a hero? The keyboard or lack there of is killing me. I ve had the hero since release you would think I would be use to it by now.
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Im with you on that.. and i can type pretty dam fast on it.. but its always wrong.. and I noticed its hyper sensitive... for instance, if i hover a finger over a virtual key it thinks Im long pressing it.. even though Im not touching it.. and if another text comes in while Im typing the key being pressed for that moment gets long pressed..
Haha I'm totally opposite you guys. I HATE physical keyboards. Back with AT&T, I switched a Samsung Eternity out for an Impression... big mistake. Not only the was the added bulk incredibly annoying, but the keyboard was SO innacurate, I just gave up on it and used the virtual keyboard. Trust me, virtual keyboards are better (if the keyboard isn't crap!). But have you guys tried Swype? I've been using it instead of the HTC keyboard, and I can type pretty accurately and fast now with it.
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Haha I'm totally opposite you guys. I HATE physical keyboards. Back with AT&T, I switched a Samsung Eternity out for an Impression... big mistake. Not only the was the added bulk incredibly annoying, but the keyboard was SO innacurate, I just gave up on it and used the virtual keyboard. Trust me, virtual keyboards are better (if the keyboard isn't crap!). But have you guys tried Swype? I've been using it instead of the HTC keyboard, and I can type pretty accurately and fast now with it.
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Yeah I did swipe for about a week. My main issue with V-KB's is that they take more focus. Its not that its anything wrong with it, I just cant bang out a text like I could on my Touch Pro.
As matter fact, I find myself not texting people back because I get annoyed with the KB, but seriously whats the best route for trading.
Just saw this pop up on my news reader figured I would share. Lets hope it is true
http://www.androidspin.com/2010/04/01/htc-hero-android-2-1-release-from-sprint-updated/
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Just saw this pop up on my news reader figured I would share. Lets hope it is true
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Yeah... I saw that. Little skeptical though because once you trace the source back to handhelditems they say someone got that info from a webchat with Sprint. We all know to think twice about those! lol It does seem to line up with that April 9th update that's been floating around though. Who knows...
Hopefully this is true and not another april fools prank. It was about a week-week and a half ago they rumored it would release in the coming weeks. Fingers crossed.................
With all the sprint leaks we have been getting I think it might be getting close.
But who knows
I already have it thanks damage
good, it's about time, tired of watching people get LEAKS and then not sharing the source...
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good, it's about time, tired of watching people get LEAKS and then not sharing the source...
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don't worry, Sprint will just repackage one of the XDA roms as their own and use it as the official update
ive said it once ill say it again the april 9th update is a maintenance release to fix mms issues not 2.1
sprint hasnt told us anything beyond that
any new news on an "official" release date? im hearing either the 9th or 26th of this month? i don't get why sprint is soo tight lipped about this?
also when is the nexus & evo launching on sprint?
no ONE cares anymore
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^^^^^^^^^^
says who ?
rank78 said:
don't worry, Sprint will just repackage one of the XDA roms as their own and use it as the official update
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Once every single bug has been worked out of DamageControl, Sprint will pull it off XDA and release it.
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says who ?
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+1 i care very much tbh. id also like to know why they have not given us a firm release date for the nexus & evo.
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Once every single bug has been worked out of DamageControl, Sprint will pull it off XDA and release it.
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with alot of tweaking to do after the initial install, yes your right.
i hope when the final comes out and we get custom roms, we won't have to apply any fixes. this is one reason im back to 1.5 for now. i have faith in the devs here, they do great work!
Why do we keep creating threads on this issue. It is a waste of space. It will come when Sprint is ready to release it. They have never given an exact date. People get so pissed because they haven't sent an update. Well guess what. When you bought your phone it had 1.5. They are not required to update it to 2.1. Either use a custom ROM or shut up and wait until it comes out.Then when it comes on don't get on here complaining about how crappy the release is.
I have Fresh 2.0d and it is working very well.
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Shut up and wait
Running: Fresh2.0d
Developing:WarpedMetal (T minus 2 weeks)
Just got out of a sprint chat. this is what they're saying
honestly no thread can "waste space" as well we have plenty of it. I wasn't complaining nor *****ing about it. I am more happy with the legend based roms then the leaked Sprint roms but when the official Rom hits it will help with more development to fix issues and get faster roms out there. honestly if you don't like these threads the easy thing to do is stay out of them. no one is forcing anyone to read the forum or a certain posts. forums are for talking that is there main and only reason for existing.
damn I hate trolls.
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Wow, that's interesting, I dont know whether to believe it or believe the support guy/gal was confused by the question and didnt know how to answer, so he/she just gave something generic
chirag2f4u said:
Wow, that's interesting, I dont know whether to believe it or believe the support guy/gal was confused by the question and didnt know how to answer, so he/she just gave something generic
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Does Sprint use any automated responses on the chat support? I know there's quite a few companies that do, the program just selects a basic response to generic questions about that subject, and it seems like the responses that are given by these reports are way too "computery" to be coming from a human. So I'm guessing that the system Sprint's chat support uses has a list of responses pop up based on key words in the client's question.
Probably way off base, but it'd almost make sense based on how similar the responses are in all these chat transcripts.
Just for the record, Sprint had everyone take the Android 2.1 training today, update should be soon.
Oh, really? Should that make me excited?
Are you being sarcastic?
Yes. We need a sub-forum for 2.1 release news/theories.
This makes what, 150 2.1 release threads?
All I was doing was trying to help by giving an ACTUAL update rather than a rumor, and even stated there was no official release set. Not sure what bit you in the ass.
yet ANOTHER useless post about 2.1
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All I was doing was trying to help by giving an ACTUAL update rather than a rumor, and even stated there was no official release set. Not sure what bit you in the ass.
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The same thing that bit everyone else in the ass, I guess.
Just for the record, Sprint had everyone take the Android 2.1 training today, update should be soon.
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thank you ...for the info...
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Guys lay off him... Anyway, I don't care about the official Sprint update anymore aside from the fact that it'll help devs. I'm happy with my DamageControl with JIT enabled
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Just for the record, Sprint had everyone take the Android 2.1 training today, update should be soon.
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Ignore the crap replies. Thank you for your first-person, factual update on the release.
Yes, thanks for the update!
Please keep them coming as you hear or see more!
I wasn't intending anything negative to the OP, just the fact that there are already hundreds of threads that this could have been put in. Thank you for the info though.
we already have 2.1 and all the goodies we need. im just waiting to see the " 2.6.29 source is released" thread!!!! then i can finally go to bed before 3am again
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I wasn't intending anything negative to the OP, just the fact that there are already hundreds of threads that this could have been put in. Thank you for the info though.
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this has nothing to do with the date of the release. he was providing factual information.
thank you
Thank you for the update. It is appreciated. This definitely deserved a new thread.
Some of us are looking forward to 2.1 roms without random audio problems, etc. The official Sprint release will instantly mean an enormous number of fixes for the roms that everyone here uses (nearly all of which were based on the Sprint leak anyway). So we most certainly do not "already have 2.1 and all the goodies we need" from my perspective.
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Just for the record, Sprint had everyone take the Android 2.1 training today, update should be soon.
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another 2.1 thread OMG!! what a jackass! i hate you. haha just kidding just seems like every one got super pissed and i wanted to jump on the hate wagon. its not you we hate tho its 2.1.
I guess I fall in line with the first few replies... we already knew training was coming soon and release is in May according to Sprint Documents. What more did we need to know? This thread only says exactly what has been stated 100 times this week. Thanks..
Edit: It's not that I hate the info.. I just feel like this could be posted under any of the other 20 recent 2.1 threads scattered across the next 10 pages.
mrcharlesiv, completely offtopic, but i love your avatar. have it as a tattoo on my chest. going to any of the concerts this summer? They stop in Ft. Lauderdale in 2 days!
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Thank you for the update. It is appreciated. This definitely deserved a new thread.
Some of us are looking forward to 2.1 roms without random audio problems, etc. The official Sprint release will instantly mean an enormous number of fixes for the roms that everyone here uses (nearly all of which were based on the Sprint leak anyway). So we most certainly do not "already have 2.1 and all the goodies we need" from my perspective.
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Agreed. Even the most stable of the 2.1 ROMs based on the Sprint leak, are still pretty buggy. In my opinion, the leak that all of our ROMs are based on is nowhere near final code. I will honestly be happy to have a stock, fully functional ROM with some minor speed tweaks. To date, I still think Gumbo 1.5c was the best Hero ROM, I just can't bring myself to go back to 1.5. I just love some of the 2.1 features and apps too much.
I just took a look at Sprint's website and they now have EVO's shipping with 2.3, does this mean that we will be able to use the kernel that was used for those models to help out with developing roms with 2.3? Sorry if this was in the wrong place or if this information was known and not helpful.
provide a link & yes this is the wrong section.
http://shop.sprint.com/mysprint/sho...0138&flow=AAL&planSKUId=&ptn=&tabId=dt_phones
it does say...
"Operating system
Ships with Android 2.3"
So theres an official 2.3 version of android for the Evo,just not for those of us who have already purchased our Evo's? How does that work?
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So theres an official 2.3 version of android for the Evo,just not for those of us who have already purchased our Evo's? How does that work?
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Agreed, I would love to know.....
This sounds odd. Maybe they updated the page too early? and this means GB Update soon?
Moved to General. I could have moved this to Q&A, but I think it is of enough interest to have it as a General topic.
I thought I was going nuts but right in their page it says ships with 2.3 smh... I hope it means something good for us
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Check this: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20055834-251.html?tag=mncol;1n
Says by the end of June...According to CNET > It's an old post from April, but it seems to be accurate after seeing the "Ships with 2.3" on the Device page...
That wouldn't make sense to have the update by the end of June if I can order a white one from Sprint.com today and have it to my house with 2.3 in two days...
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That wouldn't make sense to have the update by the end of June if I can order a white one from Sprint.com today and have it to my house with 2.3 in two days...
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I agree with you...I think it's time we all mass-calling the sprint reps ;-)
Maybe someone can get some scoop. Ill try.
i heard through the grapevine that we'll be getting 2.3 with sense 2.1...buuuut i take it all with a grain of salt, and i even work for sprint ( not on the wireless side though)
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i heard through the grapevine that we'll be getting 2.3 with sense 2.1...buuuut i take it all with a grain of salt, and i even work for sprint ( not on the wireless side though)
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Any dates?
If this is true then...
from my phone duh
Not shipping as of yesterday
I picked up a new EVO yesterday from the Local Best Buy here in Austin, Texas... 2.2
anxious to see it come about, though.
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I picked up a new EVO yesterday from the Local Best Buy here in Austin, Texas... 2.2
anxious to see it come about, though.
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Dang... you got hosed, I think I'd be taking that one back and making them give me an updated one. The gal I just talked to from Sprint had no clue that the page were all looking at had been updated so.... She did get in touch with tech support for me, but they werent aware of any ota either. She suggested contacting HTC.
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Dang... you got hosed, I think I'd be taking that one back and making them give me an updated one. The gal I just talked to from Sprint had no clue that the page were all looking at had been updated so.... She did get in touch with tech support for me, but they werent aware of any ota either. She suggested contacting HTC.
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i have been in contact with HTC about the Gingerbread update and a new version of Sense.... here is what i have gotten so far from the HTC rep......
here was his first reply "I understand that you need to know when the update to the EVO 4G will be available. At this time, a release date has not been announced yet for any of our updates to 2.3. We also don't have any information as to whether the EVO 4G will receive an updated version of Sense, either. For the latest news, please keep an eye on www.htc.com/us and www.twitter.com/htc."
then he sent this "I apologize, I realized that in my previous email my wording didn't confirm that the Evo will be receiving an update to Android 2.3. This follow up is just to confirm that it is a when, not an if; it has been confirmed that the device will be receiving an update."
then i pushed him a little harder for more info and he replied with this "Thank you for your response. As stated in my first email, we don't at this point in time have a release timeframe for Android 2.3 for the EVO (or any of our devices). We want to get the updates out as soon as possible, but will not do so until we have thoroughly tested them and they are approved as ready by both ourselves and Sprint. In regards to an update to the Sense UI, this is completely independent of the ROM version. There's been no word on if the EVO will receive an updated version of Sense or even if Sprint has shown an interest in having it put on the phone. Thus for the latest news, please keep an eye on www.htc.com/us and www.twitter.com/htc."
then he sent this (kind of randomly i dont know why, and ENDED the conversation) "Thank you again for your reply. I'm concerned that only the notification that you have a response is getting to you but not the message itself. In your last two emails you have inquired as to when the Evo will be updated to 2.3 and if it is going to receive an update to the Sense UI. However, I did supply the only available response to that inquiry (thus my concern that the messages are not making it to your inbox for whatever reason). We don't at this point in time have a release timeframe for Android 2.3 for the EVO (or any of our devices). We want to get the updates out as soon as possible, but will not do so until we have thoroughly tested them and they are approved as ready by both ourselves and Sprint. In regards to an update to the Sense UI, this is completely independent of the ROM version. There's been no word on if the EVO will receive an updated version of Sense or even if Sprint has shown an interest in having it put on the phone. Thus for the latest news, please keep an eye on www.htc.com/us and www.twitter.com/htc."
what do you guys think???
It would be refreshing to have a new version on Sense on our EVOs.
spencer88 said:
It would be refreshing to have a new version on Sense on our EVOs.
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yes, it would. for being a flagship device, it is the only one still stuck on Sense 1.0
sense 2.? would be SUCH AN IMPROVEMENT AND MUCH NEEDED!!!!!!
Funny . . you visit the HTC site and look at tech specs for Evo and it says Android Gingerbread for OS. . .
EDIT: Sorry, looked at Sensation specs thinking it was Evo . .
Yeah that was the first place I checked after seeing it shipping with 2.3 on Sprint's website. You'd think they would communicate, at least a little
wow this is weird. Sprint has updated info to soon b4, but to have both sprint and htc update info to soon is to much of a coincidence. So i'm thinking the ota should be hitting in the next couple of days
EDIT: ok looked all over the HTC site and see nothing saying android 2.3/gingerbread. So where are u guys seeing 2.3 on htc.com?
I did however see that at htc.com it says the EVO has OS 2.1 and at shopamerica.htc.com it says 2.2
This is what HTC said about why the new OTA didn't get a sense update even tho alot of us were pissed about it.
I understand how important it is for you to have the latest software available for your device. We work with Sprint to determine which of their branded HTC devices will receive software updates. If your carrier does not request an update for the device we cannot create or host it. For the most up to date information regarding your carrier’s decision to update the device we recommend contacting them.
HTC cannot disclose any information regarding ROM updates until the carrier approves them. I cannot answer any questions or comments regarding any other company’s or manufacturer’s practices. I can tell you it is an industry standard to provide updates for a device for 18 months after its introduction. “Google has announced a partnership with manufacturers and cellular providers to keep all devices up-to-date in Android OS for an 18 month period from the date of launch. HTC and our native carriers were included in this list.
The one exception would be if a device's hardware does not meet the requirements of the update.” This refers to the base operating platform, Android, not the interface of the device. While we do make HTC Sense, our service providers have the final say on what is included in any update that is created for their branded devices.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 11USCW24ENA000324.
Sincerely,
Jessica
HTC
In a nut shell now: we're not giving you an updated sense because we want you to spend more money to get the latest software. We only see this $_$
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dirkyd3rk said:
In a nut shell now: we're not giving you an updated sense because we want you to spend more money to get the latest software. We only see this $_$
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Ya that pretty much sums it up. Money talks bull**** walks. Kinda blows happy Virus is making some progress on the Kingdom rom with the new sense 3.0.
reaper24 said:
Ya that pretty much sums it up. Money talks bull**** walks. Kinda blows happy Virus is making some progress on the Kingdom rom with the new sense 3.0.
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Haven't tried it yet. All those roms you have to partition your sdcard ext2/3 etc I tend to avoid lol. I've only tried sense 2.1 never ran 3.0 yet. How cool is it?
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Might I also suggest mikg v1.02. Runs flawlessly.
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Haven't tried it yet. All those roms you have to partition your sdcard ext2/3 etc I tend to avoid lol. I've only tried sense 2.1 never ran 3.0 yet. How cool is it?
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So far on the newest ones he has done on his site you don't have to partition your SD card he made it smaller. I haven't done it to mine I ran it last night for a few hours to check it out. The kingdom is eye candy looks great has issues with sense restarting and YouTube is laggy. It's pretty cool worth checking out. The rom is trick man.
The most stable 2.1 is virus Synergy Rom I'm loving it nightly build. I haven't had to partition my SD card for any ROM yet you can if you want to .
That sounded more to me like, "Don't ask us, ask Sprint" They're the ones that chose to not let you have the most up to date ROM we could have given you."
HipKat said:
That sounded more to me like, "Don't ask us, ask Sprint" They're the ones that chose to not let you have the most up to date ROM we could have given you."
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I know lol think EVO users should ***** at Sprint for it . I was just asking why and that is what HTC was pretty much saying Sprint is the one to blame.
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I know lol think EVO users should ***** at Sprint for it . I was just asking why and that is what HTC was pretty much saying Sprint is the one to blame.
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What's even more pathetic is that Sprint Rep told me the DAY BEFORE THE UPDATE was announced that the Evo would never get GB.....
Idiots...
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What's even more pathetic is that Sprint Rep told me the DAY BEFORE THE UPDATE was announced that the Evo would never get GB.....
Idiots...
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Ya they tend to be a pain in the ass when asking for information. Sad the EVO is a great phone and could run sense 3.0 with no problem but Sprint is all about making money and are gonna screw us over on updates.
reaper24 said:
Ya they tend to be a pain in the ass when asking for information. Sad the EVO is a great phone and could run sense 3.0 with no problem but Sprint is all about making money and are gonna screw us over on updates.
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It's called marketing 101. Why would you give the oldest phone the same enhancements as the new one? aren't businesses in business to actually make money and to protect their shareholders?
ropodope
Sent from my Vaelpak GB AOSP Preview Edition v0.1 for Evo 4g. Flash and ye shall receive.
ropodope said:
It's called marketing 101. Why would you give the oldest phone the same enhancements as the new one? aren't businesses in business to actually make money and to protect their shareholders?
ropodope
Sent from my Vaelpak GB AOSP Preview Edition v0.1 for Evo 4g. Flash and ye shall receive.
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Still blows lol a great phone there letting fall behind. They can suck at times.
Well its all about Sprint not wanting to pay for the updated Sense. Anyways thanks to Mik, we have the closest thing to Sense 3.0 with Sense 2.1. It is the best Sense rom I have ever used on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038967
Check it out!
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Well its all about Sprint not wanting to pay for the updated Sense. Anyways thanks to Mik, we have the closest thing to Sense 3.0 with Sense 2.1. It is the best Sense rom I have ever used on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038967
Check it out!
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Lol thanks virus ROM synergy is sweet using it. You should check his work also he fixed alot of it.
Why desperate for 3.0?
I am trying to understand why everyone is so desperate for Sense 3.0. I have run the leaked GB with Sense 3 and it is no great shakes - mostly window dressing with very little added functionality. I went back to a previous version of Sense just because it is simpler and does 99% the same stuff.
I really do not see people buying a phone in order to get the next version of Sense...
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I really do not see people buying a phone in order to get the next version of Sense...
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I agree with this part. I am not looking at buying for Sense 3.0. I am buying the EVO3D for the updated hardware. Also I am sure that I am not the only one.
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I agree with this part. I am not looking at buying for Sense 3.0. I am buying the EVO3D for the updated hardware. Also I am sure that I am not the only one.
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I will buy it for the hardware too! The 3D looks great. I was referring to someone else who indicated that the version of sense would be a reason to buy (or not buy) a phone. When in my opinion, later versions of Sense do almost nothing new for the phone.
Just my opinion after using 3.0 for a week or so.
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I will buy it for the hardware too! The 3D looks great. I was referring to someone else who indicated that the version of sense would be a reason to buy (or not buy) a phone. When in my opinion, later versions of Sense do almost nothing new for the phone.
Just my opinion after using 3.0 for a week or so.
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Yeah I was just agreeing with you.
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I am trying to understand why everyone is so desperate for Sense 3.0. I have run the leaked GB with Sense 3 and it is no great shakes - mostly window dressing with very little added functionality.
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Wait, what???
I'm sorry, but having the Quick Settings in the task bar pull down, the last used apps in there, too, a better lock screen system, better apk management, more options, etc, etc, is NOT just window dressing
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Wait, what???
I'm sorry, but having the Quick Settings in the task bar pull down, the last used apps in there, too, a better lock screen system, better apk management, more options, etc, etc, is NOT just window dressing
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No, that's also not exclusively Sense 3.0, which is what he was talking about. that can be seen in Sense 2.1 Which actually runs very nice on the EVO.
I've tried both Virus B1.1.3 (Sense 3.) and MikG 1.01 and 1.02 (Sense 2.1 + 3)
Here is my experience.
Virus's Revolution B1.1 and up REQUIRES SD Partition. flashing the ROM will WIPE THE SD CARD, it states it right on the tutorial. "Back up yo ****, this is deletin' yall!!" (Paraphrasing.)
After doing everything, backing up SD, partitioning card, converting partition, installing ROM. it is VERY pretty, the carousel effect is hypnotizing. But it just wasn't stable enough and wasn't fast enough for my liking. Apps frequently crashed and the Rosie kept needing to restart because it was too big to sit in the Memory. I even did all the tricks to try and keep it from having to do that.
MikG 1.02 is pretty quick, not the fastest ROM I've ever used, but in terms of other Sense roms, it's right up there with the rest of them. Really, the only thing I can see that is missing from the pure Sense 3 variant is the carouselling Homescreen and huge updated Weather widget. the Weather app that opens looks like Sense 3 though, which is odd, because in Virus's it's Sense 1 or 2.