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Dear wizard owners - could you please check how this call recording software works on your device.
http://1800message.com/default.aspx
in the end of that page there is a link for PMRecorder - there is cab file for it.
1) is it working in general?
2) does it record two parties well if used without headset?
3) does it record two parties if bluetooth headset is used?
4) what is quality of recording.
I am thinking to moving from jam to wizard or prophet only becouse of that software.
gluhov: if you're prepared to move phones for this feature, consider the gigabyte phones.
V
please give a link for that phone
gluhov said:
Dear wizard owners - could you please check how this call recording software works on your device.
http://1800message.com/default.aspx
in the end of that page there is a link for PMRecorder - there is cab file for it.
1) is it working in general?
2) does it record two parties well if used without headset?
3) does it record two parties if bluetooth headset is used?
4) what is quality of recording.
I am thinking to moving from jam to wizard or prophet only becouse of that software.
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PMRecorder does work well however you have to have all your conversations in speakerphone mode to pickup the person talking on the other end. The website says this is a limitation by the manufacturer (although not sure if the mean the HTC's, MS or the OEMs)
Cheers
Excellent review of the GigaByte:
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/articles.php?action=expand,46925
Not sure if it's available yet, but I wants it!
V
WOW!!
I wants it too - I'm beginning to think the Wiz is a bit of a dead loss anyway
You can't beat an old 6310i as a phone
The Gigabyte phone has got all the functions that the Wiz is missing - and look at that camera !!!
Offtopic:
And the TV I think I'll wait for one as well. I need to upgrade in the next few months. I'm thinking either Atom or Gigabyte. But the Giga looks very very nice software wise. Don't like the styling much.. but the features Would be nice to get a rom dump of that. Oh, I think I've got one somewhere...
V
gluhov: If you are considering the gigabyte for the call recording, on reading the review it looks like it may have the same functionality as PMRecorder. As it says "you can record your own telephone conversations", I would clarification of what is meant by "your own conversations" To me this sounds like one sided recording, although i presume the speaker method would work here as well.
However it is a nicely feature packed device, i wouldnt mind getting my hands on one myself although i think i have gotten used to the Wizards keyboard and (slowish) speed now. I just want my A2DP!!!
Cheers
The recorder in the 'notes' application will happily record both sides as well - the other side will be a bit noisier/fainter, but unless you're recording for criminal evidence, that shouldn't be a problem. ( And keep in mind that many countries have laws prohibiting conversation recording unless you make this explicitly clear to the other side )
As for the Gigabyte - looks nice, specs-wise. However - no Edge? So definitely no UMTS/HSDPA. Not a huge loss, perhaps, but if you're aiming for the future anyway, it might be worth waiting for whatever they'll come out with next?
Guys - lets stop talking about these gygobyte.
PLEASE TEST THAT APLICATION AND ANSWER MY QUESTION - that will really help.
vijay555 said:
Offtopic:
And the TV I think I'll wait for one as well. I need to upgrade in the next few months. I'm thinking either Atom or Gigabyte. But the Giga looks very very nice software wise. Don't like the styling much.. but the features Would be nice to get a rom dump of that. Oh, I think I've got one somewhere...
V
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Gigabyte (Around US$700)and Atom (US$750) already for sales in Hong Kong for a while.
The REAL device of gigabyte is suck I'm sorry to tell you that.
The TV function ONLY support NTSC and which doesn't support PAL as they have mention. And the screen is too small. And there is serveral problem awaiting to fix.
1. Bluetooth A2DP issue. Auto disconnect once the device screen is off.
2. If incoming call pop up, if your didn't recived the call. The "incoming call" screen still there, even the other side already drop the line.
3. When open the function inside the phone. the device Vol will auto turn to silent. even no vibrate.
4.The camera is RED. Outdoor/ Indoor. All photo seems auto in RED tune.
New rom been release in Early Feb. But same problem still found.
And Atom is keep fixing their probelm. They are like haven't more than
one updat per month. And the device now is very smooth today. But I think there must be more update coming very soon.
gluhov said:
Dear wizard owners - could you please check how this call recording software works on your device.
http://1800message.com/default.aspx
in the end of that page there is a link for PMRecorder - there is cab file for it.
1) is it working in general?
2) does it record two parties well if used without headset?
3) does it record two parties if bluetooth headset is used?
4) what is quality of recording.
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Please read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=513&more=1 for a complete discussion of the subject.
of course i read it.
i just need an answer from real user
it doesn't record incoming audio. you'd have to get a htc typhoon(i think) smartphone device to do this.
Are you tru wizrd owner?
Doesn't work on my Wizard (Vario)
gluhov said:
Are you tru wizrd owner?
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Yes I am. I actually e-mailed the company about this awhile back and heres what they told me.
"Techsupport to me 12/27/05
The Wizard does not support the dual audio path. the HTC Tornado and Cingular 2125 both support it, but the PPC Wizard does not. Sorry about that. It is a hardware limitation on the device.
> i've been playing around with pmvault and pm recorder on an htc wizard
> phone. Vault works flawlessly and is so convenient. Recorder doesn't
> record incoming audio though. My voice can be heard fine, but not the
> person I'm talking to. I know that the wizard devices are pocket pcs and
> not smartphones, but WM5 for ppc is supposed to run programs for both. Any
> thoughts on it?"
hmm.
if you use speacker phohe - will it help to record second part or not?
Becouse on magician if you use it everything is recorded very well.
Nope, it just records my voice. The other's voice is very faint audible when set to speaker mode, but certainly not loud en clear enough to understand.
I have a Wizard and use PMRecorder. Although the other party is faint on a recording it is possible to hear and understand them.
Hi. I am thinking about replace my old Universal for a nice successor. Here in Spain HSDPA is active so i was thinking about HTC Hermes. But i love my VGA Screen. What can i do? any suggestions?? Thaaaanks
Till now, there are not even rumors in the air for the next laptop-like design. So, all we can do is request HTC to make similar device
How about MAGIC: http://www.advancetc.com/
cktlcmd said:
How about MAGIC: http://www.advancetc.com/
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Yeah I've seen them, I was going to get one till I heard... NO VGA! Now why would I want two QVGA screens? I think the Universal is going to be the top dog for quite some time.
Cross yr fingers....there is one planned..... :lol:
Hdubli thanks but I always thought that HTC will tie up the successor for the Universal with the next version of Windows Mobile.
Regards
Hi hdubli,
Could you say something more?
I love clamshell devices.
I love clamshell devices , thus the reason why I fell in love with the Universal. I do hope there is a successor for the Universal with better specs, especially the camera. We need higher resolution and they need to reposition the camera at the back of the screen, instead of the bottom of the keyboard. The one in front of the screen is fine, but I prefer to take pictures in clamshell mode than with the screen rotated in PDA mode.
For me VGA is a must. I like HSDPA, but i prefer UMTS with VGA than HSDPA with QVGA. I was going to buy it but i know that i will miss the VGA real screen so i will wait. I will buy a pcmcia card HSDPA enabled for my laptop......
VGA is a must for me too. The screen can be smaller but I need my VGA. With bigger memory and an external Caller ID screen. Then I am in heaven!
A decent camera wouldn't go amiss too ;-)
For me the next version must have an external screen so I can see who is calling withough having to open it, and a small numeric pad so I can make calls. That's the biggest peeve I have with this device.
Faster processor would be great too, the phone does get a bit laggy sometimes, also can't always answer a call, etc. It was better after a reflash but after a while the phone starts to drag.
Cheers
Nasdaq
How about a graphics processor, for video playback and such. I have some hickups every now and then when i playback video.
I think the current Universal has it all except:
1: External screen to display caller ID
2: The call accept and reject buttons on the side should light up when a call comes through
3: A small numeric keypad on the outside
4: But above all 128 MB of Program memory
Hope HTC is listening to us
Regards
Don't forget the camera ;-)
And if HTC are listening, can you make me a special one without the numeric pad on the outside?
I would love a full keyboard (alt / ctrl) keys
Dont forget HSDPA. In many countries it works right now with 1.8Mbps and in Spain it will reach 14.4 Mbps in december ¡¡ (Like in many other countries). It makes real the TV Online...so i think HSDPA is a must.
Some extra buttons and a powerfull graphics chip and HTC Universal will become a PSP connected to the world with a VERY big broadband.
Of course wifi G.
External screen.
FM and DVB-T receivers.....
And finally...of course.....SIRF III GPS with TMC (real time traffic).
zzzzzzZZZZzzzzz...maybe I am dreaming.........zzzZZZZzzzzz
here is the design
From Sanyo prototypes a couple of years back.
Phone unit providing comms. Can be left on desk in bag, shirt pocket, belt clip. USB 2 and wireless USB connector. WIFI and bluetooth. 2 mini SDIO sockets. integrated AGPS. TV out. A2DP....
Screen - Interchangable choice of screens from VGA to QVGA. Talks wirelessly to base very thin.
Voice comm - via screen or headset.
Cameras interchangable and optional.
http://www.slashphone.com/111/4732.html cant find original link. But it was interchangavle items talking wireless to the receiever. mix n match what u need and it slotted together for storage, regular use.
Hopefully:
1. 3mp camera+ w/ VGA video recording
2. Wifi 802.11g (or even 802.11n!)
3. Small external screen for caller ID/signal status
4. 128mb (or more) RAM
5. Internal storage of 4gb+
6. Support for standard SD - I hate that we all have to buy new memory cards all the time! I dont think anyone is bothered about a memory card weighing 1g less - as minisd/microsd offer smaller capacities, higehr prices and the need for everyone to buy new cards!
7. GPS
8. Larger supplied battery - at least 2500mah.
And of course keep the VGA screen, but with perhaps 262k colours?
I support 6680abhi specs :lol:
Hi,
1) has anyone any first hand experience with ANY HTC pda/phone that could autoanswer on ANY bluetooth headset
1a) my experience is NO ! (Verizon XV-6600, A&T Tilt)
2) Unless there is a yes answer to 1)....
how could this have gone unaddressed thru so many generation/models/reviews of PDA/phones ?
2a) I can't accept that this is a "feature".
Jeez, just about every "dumb" bluetooth mobile phone does it just fine.
3) For the individual(s) that offer directions to ->Settings, etc...
it doesn't work for bluetooth
4) For those that say Handsfree profile is required...
AT&T Tilt supossedly has Handsfree 1.5, and bluetooth autoanswer doesn't work !
5) This is a serious flaw/oversight/disability/etc. !
How many versions/releases from Harrier to Kaiser, to have not corrected this.
Someone from HTC please step up and address this. Please ?!
did you try PhoneAlarm.
it is possible to create a profile in phonealarm, and automaticly respond to an incoming phone call..also while using bluetooth
First step, run SAPSettings to activate the comunication between SIM an BT
Then Settings -> phone -> more -> automatic pickup is working for me.
Hi,
Neither SAP nor "bluetooth SIM access" were referenced at http://www.america.htc.com/support/tilt/docs/ATT_Tilt_English_GSG.pdf
Thanx anyhow.
The Tilt was already returned and I've stayed with the XV-6600 (bigger screen, coverage footprint, faster broadband, cpu "feels" faster, software/accessories investment).
I will correlate your advice with the XV-6600.
I'd like autoanswer to work, but more importantly...
I strongly feel HTC should address/correct this in their production.
Regards,
Can anyone make it work on their HTC phone ?
Hi,
Pardon the redundancy.
Omitted headset models from original post.
With HTC so visible in the PDA/phone
market, how is it that...
1) they probably don't have a unit which
can perform AUTOANSWER via any(?)
bluetooth headset
Tested (Verizon) Audiovox XV-6600
(HTC Harrier with camera)
phones: (AT&T Tilt) HTC 8925 (Kaiser)
headsets: BlueVoice, iPhono[063C],
Jabra BT110, Jabra BT200,
Logitech HS02-V07
Mobile Freedom,
Logitech HS03 V04 Traveller,
Motorola HS810,
Motorola S9 "Rokr",
Nokia BH-800, Nokia BH-900,
Nokia HS-37W, Z-E-N
2) no(?) review has ever pointed this out
3) there are a number of generations
between the models I tested,
I don't think any intermediate models
(e.g. PPC-6700) could AUTOANSWER either
How, has HTC missed this so
consistently ?
AUTOANSWER:
an incoming call will cause a handsfree headset to automatically connect to the caller within a specified number of rings and/or seconds, without wearer intervention (i.e. no buttons to push, nothing to touch).
OK, if you've read this... just try to make it work on your HTC pda/phone with any bluetooth headset you choose.
AutoAnswer is a standard feature on just about every smart or dumb phone.
So, I'm just asking for someone/anyone to confirm that it works as designed on ANY HTC pda/phones for any ONE or more bluetooth headsets.
The Sprint Mogul (PPC-6800 ?) is reputed to have undergone recent firmware upgrades adressing specifically bluetooth and other issues.
Try it !
I'm curious.
IF you get it to work, please post an affirmation to this thread of which models phone/headset were involved.
Regards,
csdkw said:
Hi,
1) has anyone any first hand experience with ANY HTC pda/phone that could autoanswer on ANY bluetooth headset
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Yes...my Att 8125 aka HTC wizard and my Att 8225 aka HTC Hermes...my advice to you...learn how to use the device....
ljinsane,
I've gotten the feature to work with Motorola & Jabra headsets on (AT&T/Cingular) Motorola V600 & Razor, Sony-Ericsson T62U + DBA-10 bluetooth adapter, and a Blackjack.
I'm pretty confident it's not operator error.
What headset did you use ?
Were you indeed able to converse with whomever called you, by just waiting for the headset to stop ringing, and without touching the headset and not touching the Wizard 8125 and/or Hermes 8225 ?
Regards,
, Er
csdkw said:
Hi,
1) has anyone any first hand experience with ANY HTC pda/phone that could autoanswer on ANY bluetooth headset
1a) my experience is NO ! (Verizon XV-6600, A&T Tilt)
2) Unless there is a yes answer to 1)....
how could this have gone unaddressed thru so many generation/models/reviews of PDA/phones ?
2a) I can't accept that this is a "feature".
Jeez, just about every "dumb" bluetooth mobile phone does it just fine.
3) For the individual(s) that offer directions to ->Settings, etc...
it doesn't work for bluetooth
4) For those that say Handsfree profile is required...
AT&T Tilt supossedly has Handsfree 1.5, and bluetooth autoanswer doesn't work !
5) This is a serious flaw/oversight/disability/etc. !
How many versions/releases from Harrier to Kaiser, to have not corrected this.
Someone from HTC please step up and address this. Please ?!
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there is in phone options, in last tab an ""auto answer"" option after some rings in answer call. enable it but use less than 3 times...it's a big delay there in default option...i use with my bl hands free 1 ring auto answer and with cable hands free 2 times
i use this
http://www.accessoryjack.com/servlet/the-570/i.Tech-Clip-Radio-Bluetooth/Detail
bl hands free and works perfect in my kaiser
zaharakis,
You're the 2nd to have success with a Tilt.
Someone else (different forum) had success with the AT&T Tilt +Aliph Jawbone.
Trust me, I did the setup for the Tilt when I tried it with my headsets.
I want to go back to the AT&T store and see if I can demo a Tilt + Jawbone combo.
Regards,
csdkw said:
zaharakis,
You're the 2nd to have success with a Tilt.
Someone else (different forum) had success with the AT&T Tilt +Aliph Jawbone.
Trust me, I did the setup for the Tilt when I tried it with my headsets.
I want to go back to the AT&T store and see if I can demo a Tilt + Jawbone combo.
Regards,
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Make that the third. It sure as heck works with my Tilt using the "Stock" feature in conjunction with my S9 BT headphones.
boys i beleive it's matter of some settings.maby you must make some tests with different settings with bluetooth to manage it
in dutty's and helmi_c's lite roms and with the HTweakC_2.1b(yes with this program!!) i make the settings of bluetooth and everything works perfect.
when you open this program in kaiser you have at opening an error mesage of ""unsuported device"" but a lot of it's options works perfect in our kaisers
try it and see what i mean
Gsleon3,
That's good.
Hmmm, now you're having success with a combo
Tilt + S9/Rokr, that failed for me.
OK, Plan B
I would like to respectfully request model & firmware version, both phone & headset if possible,
from responders (past & future) if you're having success or failure.
Regards,
Autoanswer: Tilt + (S9 Rokr or Jawbone) - No Love
OK guys,
How come nobody's stepped up with the firmware info (at least for the successful pairings) ?
Just got back from AT&T brick&mortar (store).
They had a demo Tilt w/o SIM, but claimed it wouln't 'work' (make/receive calls ? - as it paired w/ my bluetooth headset just fine).
Anyways, store manager's Tilt used.
Also, had to open a new Aliph Jawbone and charge it for 15 minutes.
Tilt set for Autoanswer in 3 rings + Jawbone
did -NOT- work.
4 rings then silent as call went to voicemail.
So, c'mon guys I need to know those firmware levels.
A picture of your phone displaying its firmware
level would be even better, if you know what I'm saying.
Failed AutoAnswer of
AT&T Tilt marketed in Portland,OR:
ROM version : 1.57.502.2
ROM date : 08/25/07
Radio version : 1.27.12.11
Protocol version: 22.45.88.07H
Regards,
I have the Spritn Mogul with the latest ROM from HTC that was released Nov. 29th. My auto answer does work. I have the Plantronics Explorer 350 Bluetooth headset.
Wooohoooo it works.
Dj
csdkw said:
Hi,
Neither SAP nor "bluetooth SIM access" were referenced at http://www.america.htc.com/support/tilt/docs/ATT_Tilt_English_GSG.pdf
Thanx anyhow.
The Tilt was already returned and I've stayed with the XV-6600 (bigger screen, coverage footprint, faster broadband, cpu "feels" faster, software/accessories investment).
I will correlate your advice with the XV-6600.
I'd like autoanswer to work, but more importantly...
I strongly feel HTC should address/correct this in their production.
Regards,
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You need to read more carefully.
SAPettings
Exitao,
At first reading of your reply, I realized I'd searched the Getting Started Guide rather than the User Manual.
Just searched the user manual... no SAP.
http://www.america.htc.com/support/tilt/docs/ATT_Tilt_English_Manual.pdf
So, with all due respect... what has SAP and/or SAPSettings to do with "native" (out of the box) support of AutoAnswer via bluetooth in the Tilt ?
I don't know of a bluetooth phone without AutoAnswer, and the ones (excluding HTC) that I've used all performed as expected.
I apologize if you perceived my rantings as a quest for third party solutions.
My goal, is to authenticate that there is a
deficiency in bluetooth/AutoAnswer support in the Kaiser/8925/Tilt as marketed.
And, if it helps to innoculate future generations of HTC products,
that the above deficiency seems to have a "linear" heritage dating as far back as the Harrier/XV-6600.
Thirdly, I'd like the function to work as expected in all products but,... that's just me.
Regards,
Dj1018,
Thanks for contributing.
I'm happy for you, sincerely.
If someone with earlier firmware on a Mogul could share,
we might have some idea of whether there is a problem, HTC knows of it, and understands and/or can correct it.
Regards,
htc auto answer
the auto answer using bluetooth on the hd2 works by going into settings then advanced then at the bottom of the screen there is a small tab called more click this and the auto answer comes up and you select from there , however i looked at the htc desire yeterday and could not find an option to auto answer in the options tool , at first i could not get the phone to connect to jabra bt5020 blue tooth device , but by several attempts the two binded but failed to auto answer the htc hd2 uses windows 6.5 and it has this option , but the htc desire is an android and i could not get it to auto answer at all even the staff in the store had no idea . some had no idea that a handset can even auto answer
htc auto answer
the auto answer using bluetooth on the hd2 works by going into settings then advanced then at the bottom of the screen there is a small tab called more click this and the auto answer comes up and you select from there , however i looked at the htc desire yeterday and could not find an option to auto answer in the options tool , at first i could not get the phone to connect to jabra bt5020 blue tooth device , but by several attempts the two binded but failed to auto answer the htc hd2 uses windows 6.5 and it has this option , but the htc desire is an android and i could not get it to auto answer at all even the staff in the store had no idea . some had no idea that a handset can even auto answer
my HTC thunderbolt just updated to ver 2.3.4.
I used to use an app Auto answer by everySoft.
In my car the hands free would automatically answer incoming calls
in 6 seconds. After the update it doesn't work.
I tried several similar apps and the same error message ver 2.3.4 killed them.
I drive with hand controls, so i really need auto answer.
Any suggestions you might have would be greatly appreciated.
I did some research and found.
The MODIFY_PHONE_STATE permission was marked as "for system use only" in Android 2.3.
While this was never intended for developers and publicly endorsed by Google, there are hundreds of apps in the marketplace using it. Unfortunately, a seemingly innocent checking by the Android folks has now crippled many popular apps for Android 2.3+.
If i root the phone, can this be changed??
I thought it was so strange that when I scanned for bluetooth devices I picked up my (pc) internet modem (which is wireless enabled) so I thought bluetooth and wifi must share a lot of the same characteristics.
I was browsing for the latest Android developments and stumbled on the following
Please take a look at this page http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12000&contentId=4679
And this one http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12019&contentId=4635&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+bluetooth
This seems to mean that FM Radio and WiFi is a standard feature of OMAP 850 chips and (for the touch owners look at this page http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12028&contentId=4636&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+agps)
Seems If you have Bluetooth you also have wifi and possibly fm radio built in only lacking the drivers (no special wifi antenna is used in the omap 850 solution accoriding to TI)
It would seem that all we need is the right drivers and regsettings (so no new rom or radio rom should be needed)
Who can make it a working cab?
Woooooooooo!
Good news.
great job
if some solution, make me to buy one.
by the soft solution, strange story !no idea for none cost effective option. why do HTC designers make a 2008 PDA with no WiFi Option!
wow
wow...it might be dream come ture if it happens....please some body develop a driver for pharos Fm radio n wifi.....please buit up some regsettings......
This is a good information. Hope that we could make it work on our Pharos.
Good News... I hope who will make it soon because I don't understand about ARM work.
That is an awesome find man. I hope this info is used to get a wifi working ROM.
I thought it was some kind of cost saving to not include wifi, i.e. some missing hardware. If it's just a driver, that is the so friggen stupid! Why have such a great phone and then neuter it by taking away wifi? And the price is still just as high as the Artemis when it came out. The lack of wifi is the only thing that would keep me from buying one. Otherwise, it would be a great upgrade phone for me since I don't need nor have 3G with my service and and it has the cool flush screen that I wish my Artemis had.
someone knows if the touch dual then also could have the wifi option turned on by drivers? the touch normal has wifi, so i guess it should be possible.
anyone tried the drivers from the htc wizard? it also has a ti omap 850, so driver from such a rom could be coocked into the rom of other devices.
@VOODOOS!L
The touch dual uses the Qualcomm 7200 chipset. That chipset uses the arm926tesj as a co processor but i dont think its the full OMAP 850 chiset.
but there is a project for enabling niki wifi (started out as a project ot enabkle both wifi and gps)
@shawndh
Phone manufacterors do it all the time. Look at the Kaiser story, yes they have some great graphical chip (would be too expensive to make a different chiset with another graphical chip) so they just didnt include the drivers for it.
With some other phones like the touch HTC disabled the wifi in the radio rom... maybe some techies here could try to put an artemis radio rom in the pharos... but for none techies this would probably be an instant brick (thats why i didnt try it) tom_codon maybe you could say something about this....input would be apreciated.
Come to think of it, I remember that they had a crippled GPS radio or something in the TyTn I. The only reason I could think of for disabling wifi is so people who need wifi would buy the the Artemis. To be honest, if I had a choice btwn the two, I would get the Pharos over the Artemis if they both had wifi. Even so, it should still have wifi.
This ia a good news.
I'm waiting.
you know what... im giving up.
ive tried pm ing some guys working on the wifi on nike project, asking tomcodon. no response as yet and prolly not going to get one.
And tried to get qtopia and winlizard(gizard) working.
but in the linux world up is down, left is right, and smart is stupid. those people are (in dutch: contactgestoord) communicationally challenged. you cant find anything on their sites. there is no(or very little) documentation on how stuff works ...noone explains anything... so in order to learn linux you have to know it.
thats why m$ can afford to be so sucky: their competition sucks so much more
i said to the guys at irc #linzwizard hey thnx for the build, i can boot it too (gizard aka linwizard 0.3.0) but the touchscreen driver crashes.
he then said make a support request at sourceforge which i did (btw it isnt obvious how to .. it should be very simple. but hey... thats the linux way, isnt it) response was.. and this is a shocker.. your touchscreen driver doesnt work(.... grrreeeaat) you should disable it...(no description on how)
up for the rom with wifi for the pharos!
Thanks
Not to rain on anyone parade but from the first page from TI, it looks like to get wifi support you have to have a special chip in the phone(upper left corner) thats diferent that the chip to get wifi, so unless someone knows for sure that the WiLink chips are present, I think we are without wifi
Wait and see...
The only problem is... How long does it take to finalize such a ROM?
If it takes 1 yr, for example, I think I will have already changed to at least TouchHD..
Anyway, good news!
Hello! I have a HTC Pharos for one month. Yesterday, i accidentally have wetted phone by tea, and then i disassembled it for cleaning. Cleaning was finish sucсessfully, now phone is working
During disassembly of the device I have made some pictures. I think Wlan module is in the device. Look at the photo! Motherboard have many connectors for external antennas, and Wlan connector is on the board!
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos.jpg
thank you for the picture, its in a good resolution! but what would have made it more clear is if you would have looked for a specific Texas instruments chip with letter combinaton BRF or BL (there are 4 chips mentioned with a dual solution BL6450 BRF 6350 BRF6300 and BRF6150 last one is not good because its a bluetooth only chip) we should also be looking for TI chips with a WL designation and number 1271 1273 1251 1253
at least (BRF6300) - Bluetooth specification v2.0 + EDR single chip should be in the Pharos since we have that bluetooth spec.
in the picture i can make out the TWL3027 chip with extra designation BZQW (at least i think its that chip ... according to the ti site that would be the baseband chip but it doesnt describe on the site what the extra letters mean)http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12311&contentId=4706
[URL="http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12025&contentId=4645&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+mwlan"]http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12019&contentId=4635&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+bluetooth[/URL]
hope this is readable since i have a hangover
Kostyan could you post the other pics you made of the interior of the Pharos
avathar behemoth said:
thank you for the picture, its in a good resolution! but what would have made it more clear is if you would have looked for a specific Texas instruments chip with letter combinaton BRF or BL (there are 4 chips mentioned with a dual solution BL6450 BRF 6350 BRF6300 and BRF6150 last one is not good because its a bluetooth only chip) we should also be looking for TI chips with a WL designation and number 1271 1273 1251 1253
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Maybe this iron box is Wlan module?
http://flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos2.jpg
I may open this box, if it is requires for this research
And on this picture, front side of device it is found Wlan antenna? (if overwind board, supposed Wlan module with connector correspond (matched) to on position with Wlan antenna, and it connected with module)
http://flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos3.jpg
avathar behemoth said:
Kostyan could you post the other pics you made of the interior of the Pharos
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Of course, there is all photos:
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos2.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos3.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos4.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos5.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos6.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos7.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos8.jpg
Sadly enough I have noticed that the xperia X1 does not like my premium volkswagen carkit. As used in passat or audi or skoda superb, bmw, Mercedes, etc.
I have an RNS-510, but have also tried it with a RNS-310. Both having the premium carkit in it. Also called carkit III.
It uses rSAP to enable transfer of contacts and phone settings control.
I have tested with a nokia N95 and it works perfectly fine with that after you enable the remote sim access profile. Also known as SAP.
Sadly enough, the X1 refuses to connect. The carkit just says the phone is not compatible.
Anybody have any clue what to do?
Maybe a custom ROM which does have this functionality? Or a tool that can be added?
u r talking about remote sim access right?
my rom (cmex absolute touch) got an option to enable it under bluetooth setting (connections)
Yes or You use this little cab! Works perfectly with VW Golf VI PRemium Handsfreekit. I used the smaller file, but if it dont works try the bigger one!
In the bluetoothsettings you should find the sap profile after the installation, and in the programs a small utility to activate it. the Xperia himself has no SAP Profile!
wow!
I definately came to the right place! I will try this out tommorow first thing and let you know if it works!
Thnx's again. Also considering your rom now achmed20, because I believe this is quite basic functionality which should have been there in the first place!
As I said, I'll let you know if this worked!
not working yet
Well, that helped, a bit.
I get to the connection screen, have to enter the 16 digit pincode and after that the car just says connecting, and stays doing this for a minute or two and then just says failed or not compatible.
So I'm a lot further, but it isn't working yet! I'm thinking because of all the things I have tried, I might have broken it somewhere, but unsure how or what.
Thinking of maybe flashing it with a different (custom) rom, to see if that might fix the problem.
Anyone have any other advice?
no experience with the kind of trouble your having but if you want to try off on a fresh start, i would do a hard reset, then install the cab fix that was recommended.
still not working
I just installed the cmEX absolute TOUCH rom and did a hard reset after that.
Enabled rsap on the last tab of bluetooth and the car says its connecting and just does that for a long time (after entering pin code). Sadly enough, it just times out.
Anybody have any clue what could be the problem? I have the feeling we are allmost there, but there is just a little thing causing it to time out.
rsap even says it's connected to my skoda and everything.
From what I can gather, the cmEX absolute TOUCH rom is based on a touch HD.
more testing!
Okay, from what I have been able to gather, the following is going on.
The carkit is trying to log on in a frequency that it cannot handle.
I have been able to connect the carkit, download the address book and make calls with my Xperia now. No problems what so ever....except one. I was using a SIM from a collega whom has a different network!
I use t-mobile and my collegea has kpn/telfort. Doing more research, I have learned that kpn/telfort and vodaphone use the 1800 band frequency. And that t-mobile uses the 900 frequency.
I am not entirely certain at this point that this truly is the real problem, but, my phone works, my carkit and car works, so all the software bits are in sync, but only using a different sim. Rebooting the phone, changing nothing but the sim, makes it completely broken again!!
I'm using a RNS-510 with the Skoda/VW premium carkit. If anyone is able to shed some light on this and what possible fixes could be, I'd really like to hear!
I have been looking (and mailed) if a fiscon unit could potentionaly fix this problem. They also have units which intergrate with the system.
But I'd rather find a software solution, obviously. Sadly enough, manny cases can be found where people have problems, often, with no solution. This problems is *NOT* specefic to the Xperia, I do realize that now, since the new ROM, rSAP is working just fine.
more complex then ever....
Okay, things just more complex then ever before.
My x1 using a HTC touch HD rom base and rSAP from HTC (default in rom).
KPN sim = works and can call
Vodaphone sim = logs in but carkit crashes on trying to connect to cell towers. But car connection functions.
T-mobile sim = connection to carkit never gets finished.
I'm totally lost. Using a friends N95, all the sims work flawlessly.... which makes me even more clueless, because the carkit reads the sim data and then connects using it's own radio to the cell network.
Please, advice? How can this be fixed? Is there a different version of the HTC rSAP software available maybe?
The plot thickens again.
Using my sim card in my X1, not working. Original ROM, Original ROM + rSAP extensions, cooked rom from touch HD with native rSAP. Just non-functional.
Using the exact same phone, without the t-mobile sim but with the KPN sim, works perfectly, no problems what so ever.
Using an older Nokia E50, both sims work flawlessly, also my t-mobile sim.
This leads me to one conclusion and that is that the HTC rSAP implementation is seriously bugged.
Anyone have any idea on how to proceed? Somewhere I have read that the HTC's wouldn't handle 3G or UMTS sims and only use older ones. But, using the KPN sim I connect to 3G and it works. Also the nokia E50 of N95 can use any network and it just plain works. There for that statement is wrong in my opinion and it is caused by buggy software of HTC.
Anyone have a good idea on how to proceed? Lots of people having this problem and buying nokia's, but for no real reason other then buggy software it seems.
I really like my X1, and payed a lot of money for it, so I really need this to start working.... Please assist and help, also people with a diamond or other HTC, using the same software.
sadly enough, no progress
Did some tests again today, but sadly enough, no progress yet.
I'm going to try and get a hold of a Touch Diamond and a Touch HD and see how those preform with my sim. If my suspiciouns are correct, they will also fail, making this a combination of bad software with bugs with certain sim's.
That is the conclusion I am faced with right now... sadly enough, no idea how this can be remedied.
Are there developers whom might be able to write a reliable rsap implementation or will HTC ever come with a working version?
What do you guys think?
Sonyericsson will not provide SAP for the Xperia. Thats the point....
Been in contact with support
I have been in contact with Sony-Ericsson support and they tell me they cannot make the X1 compatible, because it is not just software.
Off course, to me this sound like total bull****, seeying I have allready had an raap connection with the X1. But this was either using HTC software add-on's or using a rom that was based on the htc touch HD.
Sadly enough, I cannot work without this functionality... and thus will be forced to sell my phone and buy... a nokia.... not bad, since I have had nokia's all my life. But I really really do not eNjoy beying forced to do so.
But everybody has known that the xperia has no SAP Profile... in every test, in every Datasheet you can see it! Why you buyed an xperia?
Wrong order
I orderd the x1 around the same time I orderd my new car (Skoda Superb II 2.0 TDI Ambition Business line ).
The car came with a carkit that can only do rSAP, but it is very very nicely intergrated with a external antenna, full adress book acces, etc. etc.
To my amazement, there was no rSAP on the phone, while all current high end models do carry support for it. Thus thought that a simple program or rom fix would provide it.... sadly enough, while some stuff works, it is very very flaky.
So it's a combination issue, off course I realize that. But I'd rather replace my phone and sell the x1, then having to change the carkit piece in my car (it is far more expensive). And still, I just cannot believe that such a basic function, is not in there.
Especially because it is made by HTC, which do carry this functionality!
So the problem was created by having both products in the same time frame. And my reluctance to believe such a high end phone would not carry this protocol.
From closer reading though. It seems that the x1 (with a custom rom) is not at fault here. If my speculations are right, any htc device with rsap from factory even has a big change that it is not going to function. Also reflected by my tests.
Using a HTC touch HD based rom on the X1, rsap is added and functions brilliantly using a KPN sim. Vodaphone works sometimes and crashes the carkit now and then and using a t-mobile sim, it does not work, at all. Since I have a t-mobile business account... it doesn't work at all for me.
I have not been able to get a hold of a Touch HD or Touch Pro to test if these problems also form on that phone, but will do so when I get the change.
So for now, even the HTC software seems to be bugged and thus I have formed my conclusion that my best option is to go back to nokia (which I have used for about 10 years now). The x1 is great, but not beying able to call in the car.... that just isn't going to work for me.
The new N97 looks pretty decent....
I have a jetta 06 tdi with mfd2(dvd version rev c) and skoda (kufatec) bluetooth modul installed by myself. I can do a Synchronisation of the Phonebook with Names and Numbers , dialed and missed calls , incomming calls with Names and i have a option to accept or decline a Call from the fis display , using my Multifunction Steering Wheel. Everything working perfect with my Xperia x1i.
Hmm
Most likely that module is a fiscon module or an older part of skoda. Am I correct?
The fiscon does not use rsap and older premium carkits from VW also did not. But their newest carkits included in the passat CC and skoda superb II are rsap only.
Quindor said:
Most likely that module is a fiscon module or an older part of skoda. Am I correct?
The fiscon does not use rsap and older premium carkits from VW also did not. But their newest carkits included in the passat CC and skoda superb II are rsap only.
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Im not sure we can post a direct link here to another website , but there is what im using in my Jetta : http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_....html/XTCsid/9f268df051bdc7806c7825cc426d606c
Old Version
Ah, yes. That is an orginal skoda part, but it is the older version from the Superb I and not the Superb II. That uses the other profiles and not rSAP.
touch HD behaves just the same
Hi everybody.
I had the chance to test both X1 (rSAP from cabs in post #3, thanks by the way) and HD (native rSAP implementation) on a VW touareg premium car kit and I must say they suffer from the same problems: most of the time the connection is established, but immediately drops and enters an endless loop of connection/disconnection, where everything can happen: car kit crashes, phone crashes, vodafone goes bankrupt, etc.
What hurts the most, though, is that very rarely and randomly, the connection with X1 is firmly established and everything, for unknown reasons, starts to work fine. This drives me crazy, for it would be a lot easier to cope if the feature wasn't available full stop.
Nonetheless, this makes me think a solution must exist somewhere, but I'm too much of a noob to find it...
Hope this helps, byebye.