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Paul released Visionary R14 "with r/w"
I used it on a fresh S-ON stock ROM and it roots OK, I tick "mount r/w" and seems OK
Then I boot to bootloader and I see "S-ON", BUT I CAN enter Clockwork and flash my nandroid back
Has somebody else tested it ??
With r/w achieved, seems S-OFF will not be necessary anymore ??
This will save many noobs from bricking their phones
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gtrab said:
Paul released Visionary R14 "with r/w"
I used it on a fresh S-ON stock ROM and it roots OK, I tick "mount r/w" and seems OK
Then I boot to bootloader and I see "S-ON", BUT I CAN enter Clockwork and flash my nandroid back
Has somebody else tested it ??
With r/w achieved, seems S-OFF will not be necessary anymore ??
This will save many noobs from bricking their phones
OOpen for discussion
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Weird.
I'd prefer S-OFF though. Dunno why, just an engineering hboot seems better to me. Like the splash screens. And stuff.
so I can use visionary now instead of S-OFF and install roms and all is that the case?
Problem is you need S-OFF to flash clockwork,
so as long as the ROM you flash doesn't contain a recovery...
That's why this thread is up for discussion, I'd like to hear comments and experiences.
I'd stick to S-OFF in the mean time.
gtrab said:
Problem is you need S-OFF to flash clockwork,
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...but when you first install the ENG HBOOT you flash it at this point (via dd) - so is the recovery partition not writable but the HBOOT is?
I just do not get the difference between temp root, and then enabling temproot on boot, and permanent root.
I mean if you temp root and then enable temproot on boot, the device will be root every time, so why should you perm root?
Can anyone answer me?
Thanks in advance
buzmay said:
I just do not get the difference between temp root, and then enabling temproot on boot, and permanent root.
I mean if you temp root and then enable temproot on boot, the device will be root every time, so why should you perm root?
Can anyone answer me?
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I'm sure someone else will have a better answer, but from my own point of view, with the temp root, you haven't properly rooted it really. The phone effectively hasn't been rooted, but you're rooting it specifically every time you boot up, because any writes to the system aren't being saved in permanent storage, only in cache memory (lost when shut down). What if something goes wrong with that process ?
Seems to me it's much better to have the rooting actually written to the phone's permanent storage (NAND).
steviewevie said:
I'm sure someone else will have a better answer, but from my own point of view, with the temp root, you haven't properly rooted it really. The phone effectively hasn't been rooted, but you're rooting it specifically every time you boot up, because any writes to the system aren't being saved in permanent storage, only in cache memory (lost when shut down). What if something goes wrong with that process ?
Seems to me it's much better to have the rooting actually written to the phone's permanent storage (NAND).
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Thanks for the answer, what if something goes wrong? isn't this method currently the safest?
I was just wonder, because I would like to root my desire z but seems to be quite unstable still with the methods availble, and until there is no ROM that supports A2SD then I do not see a reason for either perm root or S-Off.
So that is why I was wondering.
Gtrab, I've updated to version Visionary r14 and then enabled the new option for R/W, restarted and I still have S-OFF and the ClockWorkMod.
I use root explorer to make changes to the /system partition, it allows to mount it r/w so I think I'm going to disable this on boot option for security...
Have you flashed the stock hboot earlier or did some changes/testing prior the update of this program?
EDIT: here's the link of the Visionary app thread with the description, maybe it can answer some questions.
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...m/322658/19-nov-r14-visionary-one-click-root/
zuachs said:
Gtrab, I've updated to version Visionary r14 and then enabled the new option for R/W, restarted and I still have S-OFF and the ClockWorkMod.
I use root explorer to make changes to the /system partition, it allows to mount it r/w so I think I'm going to disable this on boot option for security...
Have you flashed the stock hboot earlier or did some changes/testing prior the update of this program?
EDIT: here's the link of the Visionary app thread with the description, maybe it can answer some questions.
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...m/322658/19-nov-r14-visionary-one-click-root/
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I've tested tons of combinations, but yes I did as you say:
Flahsed a fresh untouched ROM from my version's RUU, this turned S-ON and lost root.
Then used Visionary 14 to temp root-> perm root with r/w ticked.
After reboot, I had root and was able to mount r/w on demand, but was unable to install ClockworkMod (CWM) from the ROM Manager app because I was S-ON (obviously because visionary r14 doesn't have engineering hboot).
I think CWM is priceless, so I installed the eng hboot again to go S-OFF.
If you check koush's (ROM Manager) thread, he states CWM requires S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834731
gtrab said:
I've tested tons of combinations, but yes I did as you say:
Flahsed a fresh untouched ROM from my version's RUU, this turned S-ON and lost root.
Then used Visionary 14 to temp root-> perm root with r/w ticked.
After reboot, I had root and was able to mount r/w on demand, but was unable to install ClockworkMod (CWM) from the ROM Manager app because I was S-ON (obviously because visionary r14 doesn't have engineering hboot).
I think CWM is priceless, so I installed the eng hboot again to go S-OFF.
If you check koush's (ROM Manager) thread, he states CWM requires S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834731
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Yes it was the problem, I'm glad it's working for you! I agree with you regarding the CWM
gtrab said:
I've tested tons of combinations, but yes I did as you say:
Flahsed a fresh untouched ROM from my version's RUU, this turned S-ON and lost root.
Then used Visionary 14 to temp root-> perm root with r/w ticked.
After reboot, I had root and was able to mount r/w on demand, but was unable to install ClockworkMod (CWM) from the ROM Manager app because I was S-ON (obviously because visionary r14 doesn't have engineering hboot).
I think CWM is priceless, so I installed the eng hboot again to go S-OFF.
If you check koush's (ROM Manager) thread, he states CWM requires S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834731
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Since your guides are so amazing Do you think you can make a dummy one for how to loose root and S-Off, more specifically where to get the stock RUUs and how to flash them?
Do you get them from shipped-roms.com or where?
I just want to be sure in case of having to return back the device.
Thanks in advance
gtrab said:
If you check koush's (ROM Manager) thread, he states CWM requires S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834731
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I don't understand why though - if you can flash to the HBOOT partition why can't you flash to the recovery partition?
You can. You'd need to use the wpthis thing before using clockwork. Think I'd prefer S-OFF though.
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DanWilson said:
You can. You'd need to use the wpthis thing before using clockwork. Think I'd prefer S-OFF though.
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OK so Visionary will temproot and then insmod wpthis... So theoretically you could then (without rebooting) run Rom Manager and it could flash ClockworkRecovery, which itself has been modified to include wpthis so you wouldn't need to flash HBOOT?
I know some would prefer to have S-OFF in the HBOOT, but if you're not fussed or don't want to take the risk then the above could be an option... if my understanding's right!?
DanWilson said:
You can. You'd need to use the wpthis thing before using clockwork. Think I'd prefer S-OFF though.
Sent from a Pulse. Yes, a Pulse.
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What is wpthis??
buzmay said:
What is wpthis??
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The module that turns off the write protection on the internal NAND storage. See the sticky threads on rooting for more details.
mamoulian666 said:
OK so Visionary will temproot and then insmod wpthis... So theoretically you could then (without rebooting) run Rom Manager and it could flash ClockworkRecovery, which itself has been modified to include wpthis so you wouldn't need to flash HBOOT?
I know some would prefer to have S-OFF in the HBOOT, but if you're not fussed or don't want to take the risk then the above could be an option... if my understanding's right!?
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the wpthis ("write protect this") effect is temporary since a reboot will delete it and restore stock values
theoretically speaking, you could insmod wpthis and then tell ROM Manager to install CWM
buzmay said:
Since your guides are so amazing Do you think you can make a dummy one for how to loose root and S-Off, more specifically where to get the stock RUUs and how to flash them?
Do you get them from shipped-roms.com or where?
I just want to be sure in case of having to return back the device.
Thanks in advance
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I've been updating the FAQs day after day,
I think all of your requirements are already there (flashing from RUU, getting the RUUs, how to go back from root and S-OFF, etc. It's all in the FAQ.
Where do I get 'em ?? The Desire Z Android Development forum has several RUUs listed, these are the only ones I am aware of.
A specific link to a specific RUU ?? Not a good idea:
I could link them on the tutorial, but newer ones will always pop up and links will get obsolete, people will get confused.
Thats why I btter state "check the forum for currnt / latest available RUUs".
gtrab said:
I've been updating the FAQs day after day,
I think all of your requirements are already there (flashing from RUU, getting the RUUs, how to go back from root and S-OFF, etc. It's all in the FAQ.
Where do I get 'em ?? The Desire Z Android Development forum has several RUUs listed, these are the only ones I am aware of.
A specific link to a specific RUU ?? Not a good idea:
I could link them on the tutorial, but newer ones will always pop up and links will get obsolete, people will get confused.
Thats why I btter state "check the forum for currnt / latest available RUUs".
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Could you having s-off and of course perm root, to come back to stock rom could you copy the PC10img to the root of the sdcard and enter into bootloader? will that work?
Thanks a lot in advance
I need help, which guide do i use to unroot my myTouch? I rooted with VISIONary.
Sorry if this was already asked before, search function not working right now.
Edit: do i just let the bootloader flash the PD15IMG.zip file?
uzi132 said:
I need help, which guide do i use to unroot my myTouch? I rooted with VISIONary.
Sorry if this was already asked before, search function not working right now.
Edit: do i just let the bootloader flash the PD15IMG.zip file?
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IF all you did was root with VISIONary.apk and didn't turn s=off reinstall VISIONary and tap the unroot button.
If you flashed the recovery image you need to flash the PD15IMG
Keep in mind if you did the ./gfree method you need to reverse it. see the development thread to do that.
neidlinger said:
IF all you did was root with VISIONary.apk and didn't turn s=off reinstall VISIONary and tap the unroot button.
If you flashed the recovery image you need to flash the PD15IMG
Keep in mind if you did the ./gfree method you need to reverse it. see the development thread to do that.
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EDIT: nvm, i just flashed PD15IMG and it reset everything.
neidlinger said:
IF all you did was root with VISIONary.apk and didn't turn s=off reinstall VISIONary and tap the unroot button.
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uzi132 said:
I downloaded VISIONary app and hit unroot. The phone rebooted but it still says S-OFF and now it says permission denied when i try to su.
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So it's obvious that you did more that just use VISIONary to root your phone. You also turned s=off. How did you do that, and what ROM are you currently using.
To regain root access re-root using VISIONary.
neidlinger said:
So it's obvious that you did more that just use VISIONary to root your phone. You also turned s=off. How did you do that, and what ROM are you currently using.
To regain root access re-root using VISIONary.
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Already unrooted by letting the bootloader flash the pd15img
If I use the unrevoked method to root my Evo, is there a way to unroot easily like with the old One Click Root I used with my Hero?
Also if I use this unrevoked method do I have to install a custom rom or can I just use it to root so I can use apps that require root?
Thanks for helping a noob!!
cremator75 said:
If I use the unrevoked method to root my Evo, is there a way to unroot easily like with the old One Click Root I used with my Hero?
Also if I use this unrevoked method do I have to install a custom rom or can I just use it to root so I can use apps that require root?
Thanks for helping a noob!!
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To unroot all you have to do is run the latest PC36IMG.zip in the bootloader and your done.
Also no, you dont have to install a custom rom to use root apps
cremator75 said:
If I use the unrevoked method to root my Evo, is there a way to unroot easily like with the old One Click Root I used with my Hero?
Also if I use this unrevoked method do I have to install a custom rom or can I just use it to root so I can use apps that require root?
Thanks for helping a noob!!
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You can use there unrevoked forever son zip to turn s on flash it then get the latest pc36img RUU boot into bootloader and let it do its thing man and then your done just dont forget to delete the unrevoked forever and pc36img from the sd card. Your good to go.
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Supersonic
Latest RUU pc36img
Worked for me.
cremator75 said:
If I use the unrevoked method to root my Evo, is there a way to unroot easily like with the old One Click Root I used with my Hero?
Also if I use this unrevoked method do I have to install a custom rom or can I just use it to root so I can use apps that require root?
Thanks for helping a noob!!
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If you use Unrevoked to root, to unroot there is one additional step to just running an RUU.
Prior to running an RUU, first you must flash the unrevoked forever S-on tool. You flash it in recovery. Then confirm that your bootloader indeed says 'ship s on'. Once you get S on, then run an RUU, or a PC36IMG of an RUU. I'll attatch the unrevoked forever s on tool for ya, just keep it on your sd card in a folder or something, for safe keeping.
k2buckley said:
If you use Unrevoked to root, to unroot there is one additional step to just running an RUU.
Prior to running an RUU, first you must flash the unrevoked forever S-on tool. You flash it in recovery. Then confirm that your bootloader indeed says 'ship s on'. Once you get S on, then run an RUU, or a PC36IMG of an RUU. I'll attatch the unrevoked forever s on tool for ya, just keep it on your sd card in a folder or something, for safe keeping.
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LOl thanks I mentioned that was hoping he would find it from there site.
i have S-off but i have no root or recovery! please someone help! i need to get this phone back to stock!
Run PD15IMG.zip. It will flash the stock recovery and set everything back to stock. You should be good to send your phone back after that.
When I had that problem flashing the pd15.img did not turn S-on.
If your still on 2.2.1 you need to temp root with visionary and run gfree to turn S back on.
If your on gingerbread (2.3) you'll have to downgrade back to 2.2.1 before you can run gfree.
After turning S-on reflash a stock pd15.img and you'll be back to stock.
For more info read the rooting guide in the sticky section. I think its the one by grankin01. Its the one that says check this out even if your rooted.
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SenorBlanco said:
When I had that problem flashing the pd15.img did not turn S-on.
If your still on 2.2.1 you need to temp root with visionary and run gfree to turn S back on.
If your on gingerbread (2.3) you'll have to downgrade back to 2.2.1 before you can run gfree.
After turning S-on reflash a stock pd15.img and you'll be back to stock.
For more info read the rooting guide in the sticky section. I think its the one by grankin01. Its the one that says check this out even if your rooted.
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He needs to use grankin01's guide to get S-ON once he get back to froyo and then reflash froyo PD15IMG to restore everything back to stock.
Because he used gfree to acquire S-OFF, just flashing the PD15IMG.zip won't turn the security flag on. It does for root.sh, but not gfree.
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I thought I remembered that the guide said how you could use gfree to turn S-on as well.
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the guide says it works for pre OTA update. does that mean i dont have to go back to 2.2.1?
gcashiel said:
the guide says it works for pre OTA update. does that mean i dont have to go back to 2.2.1?
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Yes.
invasion2 said:
Yes.
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okay so how do i put back the stock hboot and turn s-on and unroot my phone? the whole guide is very confusing to me
gcashiel said:
okay so how do i put back the stock hboot and turn s-on and unroot my phone? the whole guide is very confusing to me
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Let's get things straight. You are on 2.3.4, Engineering hboot, S-OFF, no root, and no recovery?
yes i am on 2.3.4 and i now have root and cwm recovery. and i have s-off
gcashiel said:
yes i am on 2.3.4 and i now have root and cwm recovery. and i have s-off
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LOLWUT. 2.3.4 stock? With S-OFF and root and CWM?
invasion2 said:
LOLWUT. 2.3.4 stock? With S-OFF and root and CWM?
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yes. or what do you mean?
gcashiel said:
yes. or what do you mean?
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I'm confused...gcashiel, you are rooted, CWM recovery, S-Off right? But all of this is on 2.3.4 STOCK T-mobile OTA ROM, correcT?
invasion2 said:
I'm confused...gcashiel, you are rooted, CWM recovery, S-Off right? But all of this is on 2.3.4 STOCK T-mobile OTA ROM, correcT?
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yes correct. i have the stock rom with root privileges.
i am trying to get EVERYTHING back to stock, hboot ( i have the hboot 0.85.2007), Security back to on, and the original 2.3.4 rom
I'll "translate":
There is no T-Mobile "stock" 2.3.4 with root. It's a pre-rooted 2.3.4, that you flashed from CWM recovery. The stock is not rootable, and should have been downgraded at some point to achieve S-OFF.
In any case, if S-OFF was achieved through gfree, you need to rerun gfree to return to S-ON. Judging by this thread, it's going to be way over your head.
So, my suggestion:
1) Go to the downgrading thread (search, don't ask), run "misc_partition" command on your current ROM.
2) Copy PD15IMG.ZIP of 2.3.4 to SD card and proceed with returning to stock. You'll most likely stay S-OFF, but otherwise have a completely stock ROM.
If it sounds too complicated - wait for someone to explain it better, or start reading to understand, what to do. Everything you need is in the guides, you just need to understand what things do and how to use it for your case.
Jack_R1 said:
I'll "translate":
There is no T-Mobile "stock" 2.3.4 with root. It's a pre-rooted 2.3.4, that you flashed from CWM recovery. The stock is not rootable, and should have been downgraded at some point to achieve S-OFF.
In any case, if S-OFF was achieved through gfree, you need to rerun gfree to return to S-ON. Judging by this thread, it's going to be way over your head.
So, my suggestion:
1) Go to the downgrading thread (search, don't ask), run "misc_partition" command on your current ROM.
2) Copy PD15IMG.ZIP of 2.3.4 to SD card and proceed with returning to stock. You'll most likely stay S-OFF, but otherwise have a completely stock ROM.
If it sounds too complicated - wait for someone to explain it better, or start reading to understand, what to do. Everything you need is in the guides, you just need to understand what things do.
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okay i think i understand but what if i do the PD15IMG with the stock rom to get it unrooted will that be enough to send it back?
People on the forum reported that it was enough. I have no first-hand experience.
okay then but will it work with the PD15IMG that has the GB update on it?
can you help with this step please?
5. Now run the "dd if=/where/your/part7backup-numbers.bin of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p7" and it should show the output:
xxxx bytes in
xxxxbytes out
xxxxxxxxxx copied in blah blah blah
gcashiel said:
can you help with this step please?
5. Now run the "dd if=/where/your/part7backup-numbers.bin of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p7" and it should show the output:
xxxx bytes in
xxxxbytes out
xxxxxxxxxx copied in blah blah blah
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?????
What do you not get? Locate the part7backup files on your sd card and add the path to the command sample. If you don't have them, follow this guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16189365
Ok so i recently just updated froyo to gingerbread beacause i was tired of it and i was perm rooted and now im not im version 2.3.4 and i have still have s-off anyone please help me get rooted without downgrading?!
how did you "upgrade"?
What's so damn urgent? The world will end (again...) if you won't be rooted?
And if it's so damn urgent - how about spending 5 min on Google-searching to discover the answer without even opening a thread? Hint - there's "root for s-off" thread, more than one.
To root you have to downgrade.... Did you use pd15.
This is NOT urgent. Damn people
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rockstarar said:
To root you have to downgrade..
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No he doesn't - if he used gfree when rooted originally (and stayed S-OFF as a result), he can root at any given moment without any complications.
Jack_R1 said:
No he doesn't - if he used gfree when rooted originally (and stayed S-OFF as a result), he can root at any given moment without any complications.
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Yep. He all he has to do is use fastboot to flash a recovery and flash a rooted ROM.
fastboot to flash a recovery and flash a rooted ROM.
Can someone help me fastboot recovery (what does that mean) and can someone give me a working android 2.3.4 mytouch 4g rooted rom many thanks!
-xXCyberSpiderXX
xXCyberSpiderXx said:
Can someone help me fastboot recovery (what does that mean) and can someone give me a working android 2.3.4 mytouch 4g rooted rom many thanks!
-xXCyberSpiderXX
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You need to learn to use Google. You got yourself into a situation you don't know how to get yourself out of because you decided not to do your research. Now you are refusing to research again. I will give you a link to a 5 minute adb/fastboot install, but you get to use Google to figure out how to use it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928370
Just one additional clarification:
fastboot won't help him, since he's on stock HBOOT that will refuse fastboot.
What he can do, is to look for "root for s-off" thread, that has the required PD15IMG and instructions to get ONLY the engineering HBOOT and custom recovery in place.
If he won't find it - means he doesn't need to be rooted in first place.
From the custom recovery he'll need to find and install Superuser/SuperSU ZIP. And it's described in the thread.
Jack_R1 said:
Just one additional clarification:
fastboot won't help him, since he's on stock HBOOT that will refuse fastboot.
What he can do, is to look for "root for s-off" thread, that has the required PD15IMG and instructions to get ONLY the engineering HBOOT and custom recovery in place.
If he won't find it - means he doesn't need to be rooted in first place.
From the custom recovery he'll need to find and install Superuser/SuperSU ZIP. And it's described in the thread.
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I hadn't been on the stock HBOOT in so long I had forgotten. Thanks, Jack. You're as helpful as ever.
Thank you estallings15 for all your hard work i was looking it up and then i decided to fastboot back to 2.2.1 and i did perma root on it and then when i downgraded i didnt lose s-off which is weird so im going to install this custom 2.3.4 rooted rom many thanks!
link to rooted rom if anybody wants http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1264704
-xXCyberSpiderXx
Plus i forgot im going to flash the rom through clockworkmod recovery
You must have gotten S-Off with gfree. A PD15IMG.zip flash won't turn the security flag on when you use gfree.
Also, Jack_R1 was very helpful as well. He simply wants people to do their research and know how to solve a problem before they run into it, as do I.
Hopefully, now you know what happened, why, and how to fix it in the future if you or another person get into the same situation or a similar one. Good luck, and enjoy your phone!
i did use gfree but i just updated through hboot im going to see if i have root now,
xXCyberSpiderXx said:
i did use gfree but i just updated through hboot im going to see if i have root now,
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Through HBOOT or recovery?
I was gonna get in earlier because i had this same issue but since jack and estallings were helping you, i didn't. Here is what you do.
-Go to the downgrade guide, download fr3vo
-Use the guide to achieve temp root, no need to downgrade android version or anything, just get temproot
-The above step should give you permaroot
-Get Rom Manager and flash clockwork
-There ya go
ok so i was going to flash the rooted rom through recovery but it didnt work so i had no choice but to do hboot im so lost and it didnt even root me please help. ive been researching for 12 hours straight
THEindian said:
I was gonna get in earlier because i had this same issue but since jack and estallings were helping you, i didn't. Here is what you do.
-Go to the downgrade guide, download fr3vo
-Use the guide to achieve temp root, no need to downgrade android version or anything, just get temproot
-The above step should give you permaroot
-Get Rom Manager and flash clockwork
-There ya go
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ok thanks and all but after i flash clockwork recovery then what.... and if ur saying then flash the rooted rom i cant because it says you NEED perma root but all i have is s-off (through gfree method) ok ok so once i temproot it should give me perm root?
but if i have perm root what would i need to flash clockwork (what im saying is why would i need to flash a rooted 2.3.4 rom)
xXCyberSpiderXx said:
ok thanks and all but after i flash clockwork recovery then what.... and if ur saying then flash the rooted rom i cant because it says you NEED perma root but all i have is s-off (through gfree method) ok ok so once i temproot it should give me perm root?
but if i have perm root what would i need to flash clockwork (what im saying is why would i need to flash a rooted 2.3.4 rom)
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What i told you should give you permaroot.
OK so I just temp rooted on the downgrading page I followed all the steps to temp root I got temp root but no perm root help??
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