honeycomb not for smartphones - Galaxy S I9000 General

I read yesterday tht honeycomb was only for tablets and not being released for smartphones..
So that begs the question where is the android support for multi-core processors are from other reviews gingerbread does not really/fully support multi-cores.
Are we supposed to wait a year are two ?
Any rumors about a patch release to support them?
all this can be read on gsmarena.com and other sites.

Android is Linux and Linux supports multicore CPU.
However it is possible that the Android UI could be optimised for multicore in next versions.

Gingerbread + Honeycomb shaken up = Ice Cream for Smartphones .
jje

Ice cream sammich.

Icecream much cooler that IOS5
jje

Excuse me for my naïveté, but I believe there are already dual-core phones out on the market like the LG Optimus 2X and the Motorola Atrix 4G, so doesn't Android already support SMP multi-core?
Unless we're talking about native support, in which case I may not be sufficiently well-read in that respect.
I certainly can't wait for Ice Cream though. But first things first - Gingerbread.

Excuse me for my naïveté, but I believe there are already dual-core phones out on the market like the LG Optimus 2X and the Motorola Atrix 4G, so doesn't Android already support SMP multi-core?
Yes with 2.2 expect much better performance with later OS builds .
jje

if you read the reviews of the lg 2x on gsmarena.com they say that android froyo does not support both cpus;; ie the os can use it.. but your for instance cannot have true multi threading and 2 diffeerent apps running at same time each on a separate cpu.

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First dual-core coming early 2011: official

I know this is not about the Nexus S, but there's no denying that anything dual-core related is inexorably related to the Nexus S and its lack of one. So:
LG announces dual-core phone for early 2011: http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/15/lg-optimus-2x-first-dual-core-smartphone-launches-with-android/
No coincidence that it's being announced right before Nexus S officially launches.
Anyone going to change their minds?
I've known the LG Star/Optimus 2X was coming soon since AndroidCentral first mentioned it awhile back. I plan to get my Nexus S anyway.
still getting the Nexus S
still getting a nexus but any word on the carrier?
No, it's not related to the Nexus S in any way. Why? Because it's not backed up by Google. Plain and simple.
It's going to Korea and then the rest of Asia and Europe after. No mention of any other releases. Sticking with the Nexus S.
The phone is also quite ugly.
Nexus S. I'll probably have it for a year, at the least.
Why would I hold off on the NS in hopes of the Star being compatible w/ Tmobile 4G?
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I misread, Android supports dual core, but the application has to be re-written to take advantage of it.
Have Android 2.3 dual core support?
no support
Hi Guys
As per my understanding, android 2.3 does not support dual core CPU, so why would LG release a dual core CPU hardware on android !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
According to AndroidEncyclopedia.com:
This new series of multi core processors destined for the smartphone market will be sampling in the first quarter of 2011 and will enter mass production sometime in the second half of the same year. This comes really as a bit of a disappointment really as the Tegra 2 processor is already out and is kind of setting new standards on every test which has the ability to optimally use the multi-core technology. The biggest inconvenience the processors really faces is the lack of proper Android support when it comes to recognizing the multi-core architecture and thus using it to its full potential.
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This has been posted many times (how Android does not support multi-core yet). Not really news!
mephysto666 said:
Have Android 2.3 dual core support?
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They say it will launch with foryo and updated with 2.3......
DJTaurus said:
They say it will launch with foryo and updated with 2.3......
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I heard that about Honeycomb, not Gingerbread.
I love tech (especially the rapid growing mobile space) but i'd rather not have the very first dual core phone on the market. i'd rather wait and see how the OS (honeycomb and up), app devs, etc utilize it AND i'd wait to hear back about battery life.
LG and Android may really become a big player in 2011: http://phandroid.com/2010/12/16/exclusive-lg-b-android-phone-super-slim-super-bright/
Nexus L 2011, anyone?
Wow that phone looks insane. Having said that, it would be better if it was an official Google device. If it isn't I'll be sticking to the Nexus S for the foreseeable future until the next one releases.
Dual cores sound nice and all but single cores are beginning to be perfected and can really run android without any hitches, upgrading to a dual core just to have one wouldn't really give us a huge boost in performance yet.
Finally I can play Crysis on my Phone with Ultra settings. Really? Its cool and all but how fast do they want your apps to open up and your angrybirds to load up on a freaking phone, In my opinion its over kill never the less cool I guest.

Android 2.4 to replace 2.3, With Same Gingerbread Name

http://www.emoiz.com/android-2-4-to-replace-2-3-with-same-gingerbread-name
I wonder if this is why Nexus One owners haven't received GB yet.
I don't understand why they are making a tablet only version of Android. They should just make it where the system will auto configure for bigger screens. I guess it is easier said then done but they will start to have problems down the road.
That article is extremely outdated. Saw it over a month ago on other sites. Android 2.4 (ice cream sandwich) will contain features from 3.0 (honeycomb). The 2.x series will be for phones, the 3.x series for tablets.
And we have yet to have the official 2.3 update for the nexus one.
i am here in Pakistan Still wating for Froyo update from Samsung

Android 2.4 ice cream ???

So android 2.3 is not official out and rumors are already comming out for android 2.4 ice cream is comming out in juni or july
English site:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/38311/android-2-4-april-release-date
Dutch site:
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/72480/an...n-bevat-ondersteuning-voor-dualcore-apps.html
Android 2.3 is absolutely officially out
http://developer.android.com/index.html
2.4 is supposed to also be called gingerbread.
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Probably like how 2.0 and 2.1 were both eclair..
and 3.0 is honeycomb!
2.0-2.1: Eclair
2.2: Froyo (Frozen Yogurt)
2.3: Gingerbread
3.0: Honeycomb
>3.0: Ice Cream Sandwich
Gingerbread is released, Honeycomb is confirmed and is due out in a couple weeks, Ice cream sandwich should be fall of this year (my guess)
I don't think Ice Cream Sandwich will be 2.4. As a consumer, I would be thrown off if I was trying to buy a phone (or tablet) and 2.4 was newer than 3.0. It just doesn't make sense and just adds to the fragmentation that android is already plagued by.
Also, honeycomb is confirmed to work on phones as well as tablets (dive into mobile conference, Andy Rubin) so why would it be 2 dot anything?
Most Likely ICS will be 3.x, as a bugfix and enhancer to honeycomb, similar to what gingerbread was to froyo.
That’s right, in a move that shows there is some kind of cover-up of the mistake of the lack of Android 2.3 devices on the market (aside from the Nexus S) 2.4 will still be called Gingerbread, as the only new feature it adds will be this ability to support dual-core apps on a single-core device.
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Makes sense, developers will start making apps that only dual core devices can handle. A casual update to phones to support dual core apps will please consumers and calm everyone down while waiting for honeycomb on their phones.
Also, way to read the whole article
Google announced that 2.4 will be "Ice Cream"
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Linux-and-...ead-Honeycomb-286887/?kc=EWKNLLIN03012011STR4
"Google's Android 2.3 "Gingerbread" build for smartphones and Android 3.0 "Honeycomb" build for tablet computers will be blended for Android 2.4 "Ice Cream."
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http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Applicatio...or-Developers-669669/?kc=EWKNLLIN03012011STR2
Google Feb. 22 made its full Android 3.0 software development kit (SDK) available to developers, more than three weeks after shipping a rough preview version to give developers a taste of the "Honeycomb" build.
From what i've heard about it i'm not sure i'm going to like the graphical changes in Ice Cream. In fact i'm so enamoured with the stock GB look i don't want it to ever change
Under the hood tweaks and improvements are welcome though!
Talderon said:
Google announced that 2.4 will be "Ice Cream"
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Linux-and-...ead-Honeycomb-286887/?kc=EWKNLLIN03012011STR4
"Google's Android 2.3 "Gingerbread" build for smartphones and Android 3.0 "Honeycomb" build for tablet computers will be blended for Android 2.4 "Ice Cream."
Also note:
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Applicatio...or-Developers-669669/?kc=EWKNLLIN03012011STR2
Google Feb. 22 made its full Android 3.0 software development kit (SDK) available to developers, more than three weeks after shipping a rough preview version to give developers a taste of the "Honeycomb" build.
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2.4 Is meant to be also Gingerbread, with a small update (as mentioned before, like 2.0 and 2.1) the first link you posted said 2.4 as a guess (by the poster of the article I believe), but it's been said already that a second gingerbread version is coming out as 2.4
Here's a couple of links:
http://androidheadlines.com/2011/02/gingerbread-2-4-reveals-a-bite-more.html
http://www.mobilewhack.com/htc-desire-s-android-gingerbread-2-4-smartphone-made-official/
The rest of that article is right, there is an Ice Cream version coming out with some honeycomb features, but it's likely to be higher than 3.0 (or 2.5 if they're splitting the version numbers for tablet and phone)

Ice cream for DHD ?!

Google has now set the update support to at least 18 month.
and ice cream (4.0) will be released in autuum.
So we should get ice cream directly when it will be released from google am i right?
No waiting for HTC version anymore, one version for all (phones, tablets, ...)
Gingerbread just came out for the DHD and we're already getting threads about this.
Even if our phones get it, it will still take some time for HTC to put the Sense UI on it.
That's what I'm talking about..GB rom..what next??? Ice cream rom???? lol
I dont think we(DHD Users) will get Ice Cream this year if we will get.
I'll have two scoops please
It will likely start after the "agreement" between the manufacturers and Google. That is, phones made before the date will not be under such "agreement".
if i understood it google correctly the new ice cream rom (prop. Android 4) will be availible for every phone as soon as google has released it.
that would be a no sense version of course but who cares..
I'm happy with Gingerbread, but just wondering- anyone know if Ice Cream will have minimum hardware specs, such as dual core processors only? Getting very confused with all these different version now!
Also I heard they were going to combine the different releases, so we don't have one for phones and one for touch pads, can anyone confirm this?
ta.
We may not get it officially, but I am sure we will get it from the developer community ie cyanogenmod .
Lanky Git said:
I'm happy with Gingerbread, but just wondering- anyone know if Ice Cream will have minimum hardware specs, such as dual core processors only? Getting very confused with all these different version now!
Also I heard they were going to combine the different releases, so we don't have one for phones and one for touch pads, can anyone confirm this?
ta.
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That's the way I read it in a previous press release. The reason being that there is now multiple versions all under the "Gingerbread" and "Honeycomb" monikers.The plan is to unify under the "Ice Cream Sandwich" (I think it will become ICS at least on here)
As for min specs, at present I haven't seen any though through official channels (Handset manufacturers) they have put limits on min specs for what they will release for each device. The Dev's on here on the other hand have had other ideas, and Devices which should be locked to Eclair have Froyo and even experimental (Slower than treacle) Gingerbread roms.
As others have said, the dev's on here will find a ways and a means to it. I guarantee there will be an ICS rom for the DHD, will it be useable? That is the unknown.
And hoqpus, Google will release it to the Handset manufacturers at the same time, and they release it to the users. each one has its own Apps it "forces" on its users (Except the Nexus line of phones) HTC will want to redo Sense (3.5 / 4.0?) for these phones, if the current line up can take it. Hey sense 3.0 supposedly requires a dual core chip. This could be the reason that we won't see an offical DHD ICS rom arrive.
The DHD will get the ics update when the xda finished the porting ... The xda is the best way
snorbi94 said:
The DHD will get the ics update when the xda finished the porting ... The xda is the best way
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why are you posting in a 7 month old thread?

Interesting read. Unsure of accuracy

Retrieved from here
Android 5.0 Jelly Bean may arrive as early as Q2 2012, supply chain sources claim, with Google apparently integrating Chrome OS functionality for dual-boot tablets and netbooks. Those aren’t the search giant’s only dual-OS ambitions, however; insiders tell DigiTimes that Google is pushing Android 5.0 and Windows 8 hybrids to its manufacturing partners, for notebooks, netbooks and tablets that offer the best of both platforms.
Although Google is yet to comment significantly on whether Ice Cream Sandwich has met its expectations in the market, it’s clear that Android 4.0 is yet to gain a significant foothold. According to Google’s own stats, as of February 1 2012 only 1-percent of devices were running ICS, with the majority still on Android 2.3.x Gingerbread.
The dual-booting Android 5.0 Jelly Bean and Windows 8 machines will be able to hot-swap between the two platforms, the sources indicate, rather than demanding a reboot each time. That would give users the opportunity to use Android for its web-centric functionality and speed, while switching to Windows would offer the various legacy and business apps many users still demand. Update: It’s worth remembering that Microsoft’s Windows 8 hardware requirements apparently block second OS installation on ARM-based PCs by users, thanks to a locked Secure Boot system, though it’s unclear whether OEMs are permitted to do so before the hardware leaves the factory. [Thanks Richard!]
Google is supposedly seeing Android 5.0 as a second chance at the notebook and netbook markets, Chrome OS failing to grab attention as expected, though the tipsters warn that the response to Ice Cream Sandwich has left some partners “conservative” about the new platform.
Part of Google’s challenge is encouraging timely OS updates among vendors. Motorola revealed its timescale for upgrading US Android devices yesterday, with most not expected to see Ice Cream Sandwich until Q3 2012 or later
Credit to MMosley from CIH for passing this on
Shifted from Outer Space
I read the same thing a couple of times and i think androidcentral said it best. It will probably be announced and google I/O but not launch and until then its all rumors
I get all my info about google's android version's from wikipedia
It looks like 5.0 will be mainly for tablets PC's and also dual cores. So I don't think the shift would benifit from it much at all.
bu-bu-but Ice Cream Sandwich! I want it on my shift! It's the best OS evar!!!
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bu-bu-but Ice Cream Sandwich! I want it on my shift! It's the best OS evar!!!
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And you shall have it. Jelly bean is pretty much honeycomb all over again but better... Hopefully and thats if all these rumors are true
YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
And you shall have it. Jelly bean is pretty much honeycomb all over again but better... Hopefully and thats if all these rumors are true
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Yeah, comparing ICS vs HC or GB vs HC is like comparing apples to oranges for the shift. Right now GB is a lot better vs ICS until all the bugs get worked out and has funtioning 4G wimax.
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Yeah, comparing ICS vs HC or GB vs HC is like comparing apples to oranges for the shift. Right now GB is a lot better vs ICS until all the bugs get worked out and has funtioning 4G wimax.
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I meant he shall have ics. If jelly bean is for tablets and honeycomb is for tablets then it may not be open source. It that is true it doesn't bother me seeing as i won't be getting a tablet for a good year or two whenever i see it actually having worth for me. I returned my HTC flyer cause i really didn't need it and bought a fourth 22 inch tv and the sony google tv lol
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I meant he shall have ics. If jelly bean is for tablets and honeycomb is for tablets then it may not be open source. It that is true it doesn't bother me seeing as i won't be getting a tablet for a good year or two whenever i see it actually having worth for me. I returned my HTC flyer cause i really didn't need it and bought a fourth 22 inch tv and the sony google tv lol
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I meant I could careless about ICS.
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I meant I could careless about ICS.
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Oh haha I read wrong then
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thronnos said:
The dual-booting Android 5.0 Jelly Bean and Windows 8 machines will be able to hot-swap between the two platforms, the sources indicate, rather than demanding a reboot each time.
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Update: It’s worth remembering that Microsoft’s Windows 8 hardware requirements apparently block second OS installation on ARM-based PCs by users, thanks to a locked Secure Boot system, though it’s unclear whether OEMs are permitted to do so before the hardware leaves the factory. [Thanks Richard!]
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Although UEFI has the capability to load a second OS without a hardware reset, every thing I have read to date indicates that Microsoft will require manufacturers to ship their product with a locked bootloader to earn Windows certification.
As Windows 8 (a total redesign just for tablets) will be competing directly with Android, I think initially dual-boot won't be an official option until Microsoft has either made a substantial amount of money (off of Windows 8 licenses) or has secured a large enough market share.
It is worth noting, however, that the locked bootloader requirement may only apply to ARM-based devices; x86 hardware may be exempt. Intel and AMD are making huge strides in their mobile CPU departments, and as Android and Windows 8 can both run on x86, we will be seeing a decent amount of Atom/Z-01 powered tablets soon.

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