Question about ROMs and Recovery - Fascinate General

I have the recently released leak installed on my phone. I had a lot of problems getting there so I hope you all can be of some assistance.
First problem, when i try to reboot into recovery mode after I've pulled the battery it ALWAYS goes into the standard Android recovery and NOT clockwork. I can only boot into clockwork from ROM manager. Is this normal?
And secondly, this is for future reference when I want to install new ROMs. Everyone suggested that I wipe my phone before I put the new ROM on, which I did. Unfortunately this caused my phone to become unrooted, and I had to spend a little more time getting it rerooted. There was a lot of work to be done. Is this the usual course of events people go through to install new ROMs?
Thanks so much in advance, I really appreciate this community's helpful patrons.

I just put the recommended update.zip file in my root.
If I click install update.zip from the default recovery will it bring me into clockwork recovery?
Is that what I'm missing?

Yes, installing update.zip in standard recovery will lead you to clockworkmod recovery. But if you haven't installed clockworkmod properly, update.zip will fail to load clockworkmod recovery.
Wiping roms doesn't unroot your phone, so maybe you did something wrong before?
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Are you sure wiping doesn't unroot?
Does it remove the superuser app at least?
When I first wiped everything I lost EVERYTHING on my phone and it went back to as if I had just bought it.
I then went through the reroot process so I could get ROM manager back to boot into recovery mode (because I didn't know about update.zip before).
Anything I'm missing?

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[Q] myTouch 4G Recovery Issues! Please Help!

I checked through 100s of post tonight and could not find the answer to this and am in need of some help. I attempted to install a Cyanogen Nightly tonight through Rom Manager with no prior knowlege of the issues with CW 2.5 vs. CW 3.0. Stupid I know.
So natuaraly, when the download finished and Rom Manager tried to install, my MT4G just hung at the white boot screen. Through previous posts, the directions were simple to reflash the previous CW Recovery through Fastboot and reflash the Rom.
Well thats where the problem is.... When I attempt to flash ANY Rom earlier than 3.0.0.5, it will say OKAY in CMD, however the phone will never boot into the Recovery. I even tried fastboot erase recovery then reinstalled and still nothing.
So i decided to go a different root and reinstalled 3.0.0.5 to see if there was any work around through there. After i install 3.0 through Fastboot, I am able to go into Recovery, however when I select ANY option no matter what, the hat and the gear icon stay in the background and nothing happens.
I am very confused and lost and am hoping someone here will have had the same issue and can help me get my phone back in order.
Thanks in advance guys!
highrolla1866 said:
I checked through 100s of post tonight and could not find the answer to this and am in need of some help. I attempted to install a Cyanogen Nightly tonight through Rom Manager with no prior knowlege of the issues with CW 2.5 vs. CW 3.0. Stupid I know.
So natuaraly, when the download finished and Rom Manager tried to install, my MT4G just hung at the white boot screen. Through previous posts, the directions were simple to reflash the previous CW Recovery through Fastboot and reflash the Rom.
Well thats where the problem is.... When I attempt to flash ANY Rom earlier than 3.0.0.5, it will say OKAY in CMD, however the phone will never boot into the Recovery. I even tried fastboot erase recovery then reinstalled and still nothing.
So i decided to go a different root and reinstalled 3.0.0.5 to see if there was any work around through there. After i install 3.0 through Fastboot, I am able to go into Recovery, however when I select ANY option no matter what, the hat and the gear icon stay in the background and nothing happens.
I am very confused and lost and am hoping someone here will have had the same issue and can help me get my phone back in order.
Thanks in advance guys!
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I havent had that issue exactly, but I might be able to help wlk you through getting this fixed. Ive had problems more than once myself on recovery, and helped a couple others solve other issues on here. If you want, add me on google talk (same username as on xda), and Ill walk you through it. Might have to wait till the morning, though, as Im probably gonna head to bed soon.
Fastboot 2.5 recovery and reflash froyo rom. If you decide to install CM7 again - read,search and make sure that you understand what you're doing. It has been stated at least few dozen times that Rom Manager is useless with gingerbread until Koush updates it.
Same Issue??
I believe my issue sounds similar.
I tried to go from Iced Glacier up to CM7. When I did I attempted to use the Clockwork Recovery 2.5 and of course it didn't work. Then I tried to upgrade it to 3.0.0.5. Now when I try to reboot into Clockwork recovery the phone just stays on the MyTouch 4G splash screen. The only way to get around it is use the Power/Volume down button and click on FASTBOOT and then select REBOOT.
The phone then boots in Iced Glacier. I have redownloaded ROM Manager and attempted to FLASH CLOCKWORKMOD RECOVERY. But it still won't load into recovery.
Essentially I need some step by step help to get back to clockworkmod recovery. I'm not too worried if I need to wipe everything. Just looking for the ability to restore again.
Alternatively I'm interested in upgrading to CM7 but not sure how I could do that without recovery working. I would also ask if you can give step by step instructions it would be much appreciated as I'm still pretty new to this.
Thanks!
I also have the similar problem. I have installed the Clockworkmod 3.0.0.5 and have rooted my phone before i was trying to install the gingerbread version. I made a recovery backup. i tried to restore the phone with that backup image but it still hung up with that "t-mobile mytouch " white splash screen.
What should i do now ? i have no idea how to bring my phone back to life :/
fosunite said:
I also have the similar problem. I have installed the Clockworkmod 3.0.0.5 and have rooted my phone before i was trying to install the gingerbread version. I made a recovery backup. i tried to restore the phone with that backup image but it still hung up with that "t-mobile mytouch " white splash screen.
What should i do now ? i have no idea how to bring my phone back to life :/
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Jmg90300zx said:
I believe my issue sounds similar.
I tried to go from Iced Glacier up to CM7. When I did I attempted to use the Clockwork Recovery 2.5 and of course it didn't work. Then I tried to upgrade it to 3.0.0.5. Now when I try to reboot into Clockwork recovery the phone just stays on the MyTouch 4G splash screen. The only way to get around it is use the Power/Volume down button and click on FASTBOOT and then select REBOOT.
The phone then boots in Iced Glacier. I have redownloaded ROM Manager and attempted to FLASH CLOCKWORKMOD RECOVERY. But it still won't load into recovery.
Essentially I need some step by step help to get back to clockworkmod recovery. I'm not too worried if I need to wipe everything. Just looking for the ability to restore again.
Alternatively I'm interested in upgrading to CM7 but not sure how I could do that without recovery working. I would also ask if you can give step by step instructions it would be much appreciated as I'm still pretty new to this.
Thanks!
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Sounds like both of you should of never of done this. This has been discussed a few times, and the end result is always the same.....
Download the correct Recovery image (which can be found in the Development section) and install it to your phone by using the ADB commands, in the fastboot mode. you can find a quick and painless way to set those up in my signature. Once you have installed the recovery image you can boot into hBoot and select recovery. from there you can flash CM7 and the gapps. Once you have done all that download the official clockwork ROM manager from the market and flash his current recovery image.

[Q] can't get my nandroid backup to work

Hey everyone,
So i have read through many of the post about using cmw and making a nandroid backup then recovering it.
I followed the directions to put the green cwm on my phone after getting into the green cmw i made a backup and started playing around on my phone. I then went into ROM manager and wanted to get back into green cmw from there I then got a error message about my signature. So again I flashed cwm via odin and got back into it that way. I don't understand why i can't get into it through rom manager and have to flash it everytime.
My next problem is that i wiped the data on my phone and went to use my nandroid recovery that I made it got through most of it but then would freeze while revcovering the data and would sit on something like b5ece2. After waiting for 30min I just pulled the battery, but my phone is still back to stock.
This is not the end of the world for me as I have Titanium backup and got all my apps back, but for some reason can't get my contacts back using google.
Any help is very much appriciated and I am sorry about how long this question became this is my first droid and my first root.
Looks to me like your lynchpin issue is you cannot get RM to launch ClockWork mod recovery.
Solving that is your best avenue for fixing other issues.
I couldn't help but notice that you never mentioned regular (blue) recovery. Did you somehow find a guide to put in the so-called permanent CWR? I would like to understand how you are getting into recovery, because doing it through Odin doesn't parse for me.
No promises, especially without fully understanding your situation, but here is what to do if I am assuming correctly.
Best guess solution:
1. Restore recovery in odin. Get the "Odin restore file for recovery" from this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-782204.html
(a full stock restore odin should do this too, but you would have to root etc.)
2. Download CWMrecovery.tar patch ( http://goo.gl/HELdr ) from fallingup's guide, which is step two of:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897889
3. Flash #1 then #2 as PDA in Odin. Boot. Open Rom Manager.
4. Click "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery". Click "Reboot into Recovery"
Swyped w/ XDA App. When in
doubt, mumble.
Thank you for getting back to me so quick. I will do that as soon as I get home from work and let you know if that fixes all the problems.

[Q] Help. 2.2 rooted. cannot flash at all

I've been having a lot of problems getting my tmobile vibrant into cwm recovery,
i flashed recovery through cwm and selected boot into recovery. when i get into recovery and select reinstall packages, I get mixed messages.
i tried flashing cwm with the initial update.zip it puts on the sd, little bar shows up at the bottom and gets about 1/3 of the way, and says
E:/failed to verify whole file signature.
installation aborted.
Went into clockworkmod folder on my computer retrieved the recovery-update.zip, renamed it update.zip. I tried putting both of these files on the sd card root, /external_sd, phone internal memory and the sd folder on the phone. nothing works
Am i doing this wrong?
Have you tried the fix permissions option in CWM? I have had strange errors like that before and that helped.
can you be more specific please?
it says an error occurred while attempting to run privileged commands.
search for 3e modified recovery in the dev section
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that might help me if i knew what it meant. im just learning about this stuff but it seems to be getting more and more complicated all the time
I guess this post is dead.
Thanks for the help guys.):
Go into SuperUser and see if it runs. It sounds like you lost root. If that is the case you may need to re-root it.
What do you mean you flashed recovery through cwm? If you can already use cwm you shouldn't have a problem.
Have you tried downloading ROM manager from the market? You will need to have your phone rooted to install cwm through ROM manager.
U r probably on the 3e recovery and have to get back the 2e recovery don't odin back to 2.1
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Here is the tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925400
Run a search before posting and you will most likely find the answer! :]
It works for KA7 too.
You probably just need the steps of putting it into shell root > script from 3e recovery to 2e recovery, then you're good to go.
I just odined a new kernel and after that, my phone went into cwm recovery and i flashed nero v.3. everything works great.

Help rooting phone. Trouble getting green recovery screen.

So I rooted my friends Vibrant last night. I rooted my Vibrant a few months ago and didn't run into this issue. But I rooted using the same program "Vibrant One Click Root/Unroot" and followed the same steps as I did when I rooted my phone. However, once I installed ROM Manager and installed Clockworkmod Recovery and booted into recovery and clicked reinstall packages, the phone just rebooted. I remember when I rooted my phone when I clicked reinstall packages it did its thing, then went back to the blue recovery screen. Then I clicked reinstall packages again and it took me to the green recovery screen where I was able to then install zip from sd. My friends phone just keeps booting to the blue recovery screen where I can only reboot now, reinstall packages, clear user data, and clear cache. He had to leave so I did not have time to troubleshoot.
Any ideas as to if I missed a step? Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
Sorry for the n00bish attitude, if this was my phone, I would put a little more effort into finding the answer. I'm just trying to get this done as soon as possible.
Are you using the actual clockwork app to boot into recovery? If so id just go back to stock and redo the root
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creglenn said:
Are you using the actual clockwork app to boot into recovery? If so id just go back to stock and redo the root
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Yeah, I went into ROM Manager and clicked "boot into recovery". Where it brings me to the blue recovery screen. So you think I should unroot then re root? Because everything with the root seemed to work fine. It installed superiser and I had no problems downloading Titanium Backup or ROM Manager and allowing superuser permissions. Which made me think I was just forgetting something...but I might just try that. Thanks!
if your rooting stock 2.2 your gonna need a modded 3e recovery or one of supercurios voodoo kernels with CWM & root already built in. Superoneclick will root stock 2.2. If its 2.1, then you may need to hit reinstall packages a couple of times to get it to take.
drscott333 said:
So I rooted my friends Vibrant last night. I rooted my Vibrant a few months ago and didn't run into this issue. But I rooted using the same program "Vibrant One Click Root/Unroot" and followed the same steps as I did when I rooted my phone. However, once I installed ROM Manager and installed Clockworkmod Recovery and booted into recovery and clicked reinstall packages, the phone just rebooted. I remember when I rooted my phone when I clicked reinstall packages it did its thing, then went back to the blue recovery screen. Then I clicked reinstall packages again and it took me to the green recovery screen where I was able to then install zip from sd. My friends phone just keeps booting to the blue recovery screen where I can only reboot now, reinstall packages, clear user data, and clear cache. He had to leave so I did not have time to troubleshoot.
Any ideas as to if I missed a step? Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
Sorry for the n00bish attitude, if this was my phone, I would put a little more effort into finding the answer. I'm just trying to get this done as soon as possible.
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All you should need to do is hit reinstall packages again. When you do it the first time it will boot back into the same blue recovery again. Hit it once more then it should boot to the green recovery. If that doesn't work you probably have a bad zip file on the phone. In which case you'd re flash CWM again.
If you're not getting the superuser request when you flash CWM then root didn't take. Make sure root works first.
Did you actually run install cwm from rom manager so the update. zip is there?
Just make sure with Astro or another file manger that you have a .zip file and it should be 1.72 MB in size and you want that on your internal SD card....Then when you boot to recovery it should let you hit reinstall packages with no problem
I'm new here, but I have flashed 3 vibrants since last week. I had the same problem you did.
When I flashed my phone last week it was stock 2.2, so I had to flash the modified 3e recovery which fixed my issue getting into CWM to install my ROM. Today i was flashing a co-worker's vibrant who also was on stock 2.2. However, on his it would keep rebooting when reinstalling packages, even though i did the 3e recovery flash. I ended having to Odin back to 2.1 on his phone before i could flash the new ROM.
I just used AIO Vibrant Toolbox 2.5. Hope this helps.
Thanks for all the feedback!! I don't have the phone with me to check if the update.zip folder was for sure there. But if it is, I'll try reinstalling the packages again. Otherwise I'm just going to unroot and try rerooting with the AIO Toolbox. I'm not going to be able to do this until tomorrow though since our work schedules were pretty much opposite today. But once again, huge thanks to all of you!!! However I've never unrooted before...if I haven't flashed any ROMs, I shouldn't have any problems should I? Just click unroot?

No recovery, No bootloader and can't SBF

Never mind this can be removed if necessary!
7/26
Well I need help again, so I figured I might as well use this post rather than creating clutter...
So my original help request involved my inability to get my phone into bootloader OR recovery but I eventually got it... I was trying to SBF back to Froyo so I can re-root and flash MIUI.
So I got all that done, but I seem to be having issues getting Clockwork recovery to stick around. After I recovered back to Froyo via SBF, I was able to download ROM manager and flash CWM recovery and then bootstrap it, reboot to it and flash MIUI. After MIUI boots up (runs great by the way, for those considering it), I installed ROM manager again but it said that I had no recovery (or stock) so I re-flashed CWM, bootstrapped it again and rebooted into recovery, only to find myself in the STOCK recovery...??? So without doing a THING in stock recovery, I hit reboot and now my phone is stuck at the Motorola logo and I am unable to reach CWM recovery to re-flash or anything. I cannot find another way to get back into my phone without an SBF back to Froyo, thus back to step 1.
Can anyone help me out?
Oh and I've already wiped data/cache with stock recovery - still no dice
See above post
I asked a similar question. It's a good thing I decided to wait until I got an answer before using ROM Manager. I am not sure why it did what it did.
I would also like to know the answer to your question.
edit: Perhaps (after you SBFed again) if you flashed CWM from Rom Manager but don't bootstrap? It seems like bootstrapping erases the ROM Manager's CWM and doesn't install the one it has. Just a thought. (If bootstrapping is important, though, then disregard this.)
Another thought. Bootstrap first, then flash CWM from ROM Manager. See if that works. Also try going to CWM through the bootstrapper, if you can't do it manually.
edit2: Just tried it that way (D2B first, RM second). worked like a charm. Was able to successfully update Miui.
Man, I don't get why these phones do some of the things they do...
I just SBF'd my phone again, re-rooted and re-installed MIUI and NOW, for some strange reason, I am able to make my way into CMW recovery.
Veeerrryy interesting
n1ghtwish said:
Man, I don't get why these phones do some of the things they do...
I just SBF'd my phone again, re-rooted and re-installed MIUI and NOW, for some strange reason, I am able to make my way into CMW recovery.
Veeerrryy interesting
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lol With this stuff it's hit and miss. You just gotta keep trying till it works.

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