[Q] SugarSync, Dropbox, Google, oh, my! - HD2 General

Need get some feedback from y'all about which of the cloud synch utilities you guys prefer, and why, so I can figure out which one is for me.
I'm looking for a way to keep certain files current between my phone, laptop and desktop such as business docs (word, excel, powerpoint), appointments, contacts, and so on.
One thing that probably knocks DropBox out of contention is that the file locations for certain things (like photos) are going to be in different paths on different machines. For example, on my phone, the folder is on the card, on my laptop it's in 'My Pictures' and I also keep some images specific to clients in different places, so they don't co-mingle with my personal stuff.
Thanks!

Wow. Nobody here uses any of these services?

BillTheCat said:
Wow. Nobody here uses any of these services?
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I use dropbox - I like the cross-platform nature of it and (although i haven't done it yet) the ability to put stuff in public folders. I don't know about any of the others. I've looked briefly into Ubuntu One (?) but I prefer dropbox.

i'm using dropbox. never try sugarsync. my friend who tried both prefer sugarsync because it provide bigger space.

I have used both on different computers around the house. I currently use droppedboxx, which is an unfinished but still usable windows mobile version of dropbox.
It is my experience that you get more data storage with sugarsync.

I like DropBox better because I can stream my videos vs. having to DL them with SugarSync.

Dropbox all the way. Expecially if you buy extra space

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Drop Box/Online Storage

Not sure if you guys have used this but Ive found it pretty handy for online storage. Called drop box, you get 2Gb free and can upgrade and get more if you need it!
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If anyone else has found simliar apps that offer more storage would love to know so just post here!
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Not sure if you guys have used this but Ive found it pretty handy for online storage. Called drop box, you get 2Gb free and can upgrade and get more if you need it!
http://db.tt/2yz87DL
If anyone else has found simliar apps that offer more storage would love to know so just post here!
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Right. And by clicking that referral link above, both parties get a little extra space.
It's a pretty popular online storage / file sharing service and along with the DropBox Android app, a great extension for storage on tablets.
gammaRascal said:
Right. And by clicking that referral link above, both parties get a little extra space.
It's a pretty popular online storage / file sharing service and along with the DropBox Android app, a great extension for storage on tablets.
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Indeed, so far loving it!
Another online storage tool is Spideroak. It works across many platforms including Android and Linux. I am still in the process of testing it out. Not quite as intuitive as Dropbox. But I used the promo code *worldbackupday* and got a free upgrade to 5GB of storage. Not bad.
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Just trying out Asus Web Storage. It has a very cheap option for unlimited storage.... Tempting!
I personally can't think of any use for these online storage systems. It would be okay if you could mount them and then have all your applications be able to access the files there directly, but if you always have to copy stuff back and forth first then... meh.
Well the great thing about DropBox is that it integrates into windows just like a regular folder.
Once you've installed the application (which has a very small footprint) you can use the Windows 'Send To' context menu option and send anything to the DrobBox folder on your computer and it syncs with the account, making whatever you put in there available from any web-connected device. (either in a public or private folder which you can also set up)
You can also setup shared folders between people/teams which has a semi-type check-in/check-out feature that shows when others are working on them. So, say I'm working on a design doc - I can open it directly from my DropBox folder (since its a regular windows folder) make changes, edits etc, save it and it syncs the new version with anyone else I'm sharing the folder with.
As far as the tablet goes, it really is an extension to storage but only in a minimalist sense. Launching the Android App shows you all your DropBox folders and you can navigate though folders and open files or download them to your tab (without having to mount the tab to your computer or do that SD card dance). The primary point being, you can access them directly from the DropBox app and not actually have them on your tab.
I use it mainly to store books and other documents (also my bootanimations and screenshots) so when I want to access them (or give access to them) I can share the link, or open the files directly on my tab - make changes, save and it saves to DropBox.
It really is flawless and elegant.
gammaRascal said:
It really is flawless and elegant.
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It's also entirely reliant on people and systems over which you have no control. It can fail without warning, just because something between you and their servers goes wrong, and you have zero assurance of security either.
I hate the "cloud". I think it's stupid, pointless and potentially downright dangerous. You have zero control over your data or who has access to your data.
FloatingFatMan said:
It's also entirely reliant on people and systems over which you have no control. It can fail without warning, just because something between you and their servers goes wrong, and you have zero assurance of security either.
I hate the "cloud". I think it's stupid, pointless and potentially downright dangerous. You have zero control over your data or who has access to your data.
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What.are.you.talking.about?
All that reads like over sensitive hyperbole and paranoia to me.
You're suggesting that just because you have files in your DropBox folder that it's unsecure?
Anything can fail without warning - that's hardly an ongoing and preventative concern of mine. I could turn on the light in my bathroom and *might* pop and yet, here we are. I'm not about to take a flashlight in with me every single time *just in case*.
Your HDD can fail. Your CPU can pop. Your MB can short... I mean, what are you expecting? Putting files on DropBox is no more unsecure than burning it to a DVD or copying it to a Flash drive or leaving it on your HDD.
There are *levels* of security and DropBox is far more secure than you give it credit. If security is a serious concern of yours, turn off the internet.
And regarding the cloud. See paragraph 2.
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Well the great thing about DropBox is that it integrates into windows just like a regular folder.
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I know it does on Windows, but my tablet doesn't run Windows.
As far as the tablet goes, it really is an extension to storage but only in a minimalist sense. Launching the Android App shows you all your DropBox folders and you can navigate though folders and open files or download them to your tab (without having to mount the tab to your computer or do that SD card dance). The primary point being, you can access them directly from the DropBox app and not actually have them on your tab.
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That's the whole point why I don't like these kinds of things: it's cumbersome if I always have to go through this or that application first in order to use a file. It should just be mounted on a specific directory and that's that. I can only hope someone will create something like that for Android soon.
I wonder though if there is any way of mounting SSH connections, like for example as through Fuse as is possible on Linux. Then I wouldn't have to worry about these kinds of things at all as I have ample amounts of storage space on my server.
The company I work for, one of the largest IT corporations in Europe, SELLS cloud services. I know what I'm talking about.
Your files are not secure, no matter the assurances you're given, and Dropbox has had some pretty major security flaws in the quite recent past. And as a recent screwup on Amazon's cloud services recently showed, if something goes wrong or some dumbass makes a mistake, you might not even get your data back intact. That sort of thing happens a lot more often than you think, too.
Hell, we sell the bloody services to the world, but our own internal network services are down more often than a whores knickers!
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The company I work for, one of the largest IT corporations in Europe, SELLS cloud services. I know what I'm talking about.
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I'm not questioning whether you know or don't know what you're talking about.
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Your files are not secure, no matter the assurances you're given, and Dropbox has had some pretty major security flaws in the quite recent past. And as a recent screwup on Amazon's cloud services recently showed, if something goes wrong or some dumbass makes a mistake, you might not even get your data back intact. That sort of thing happens a lot more often than you think, too.
Hell, we sell the bloody services to the world, but our own internal network services are down more often than a whores knickers!
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They are secure. Which, as you know, is a relative term.
If you need *more* security then don't use it. I don't know how much simpler it can be.
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I know it does on Windows, but my tablet doesn't run Windows.
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That's why there is an Android App. The service is a ubiquitous sharing that acts like a regular Windows folder while in the Windows environment. It's not *beholden* to the Windows environment.
WereCatf said:
That's the whole point why I don't like these kinds of things: it's cumbersome if I always have to go through this or that application first in order to use a file. It should just be mounted on a specific directory and that's that. I can only hope someone will create something like that for Android soon.
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I'm not sure how you can suggest it's cumbersome if you haven't tried it. Open the DropBox application, navigate to a file and select it and it opens in whatever app you have it set to open. They only different between than and opening a native application and then finding the file you want to open and opening it is that using the DropBox method, the file has to be downloaded first - which maybe is a thing for you, I don't know.
If you want it on your tab, select the file and download it - it saves to the local DropBox folder and at that point you can access it locally like any other file. The only other option is to manually put the file on your tablet - via cable, SD card, email - whatever method you see fit. To me, *that's* cumbersome.
Like I said, DropBox is more about access than storage. People use DropBox because they want access to files over the web in the same manner they would over a home network (without using bloated VNC's and multiple programs). If you have no need for such a function then DropBox doesn't sound like something you'd use.
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I'm not sure how you can suggest it's cumbersome if you haven't tried it. Open the DropBox application, navigate to a file and select it and it opens in whatever app you have it set to open. They only different between than and opening a native application and then finding the file you want to open and opening it is that using the DropBox method, the file has to be downloaded first - which maybe is a thing for you, I don't know.
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It doesn't differ at all from opening file manager, navigating to samba share and downloading a file from there. That's why I said I'd like something that allows me to mount the whole thing as a regular directory on my tablet, THEN it would be useful. Like for example, the eBook reader I have shows as a collection all the books I have. If the cloud storage was mounted on a directory I could just point the eBook reader to that directory and POOF, they'd all be visible and accessible without having to copy anything back-and-forth.
Unfortunately there seems to be no such service for Android. Atleast not yet :/
If you have no need for such a function then DropBox doesn't sound like something you'd use.
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Look, I'm not bashing DropBox. I just voiced a wish for additional functionality. I already have DropBox-like functionality via file manager and browsing to either Samba-share or SFTP-share, with 2Tb storage, on my own server, but if I could just mount the thing on a directory it'd be a lot, LOT more useful.
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What.are.you.talking.about?
All that reads like over sensitive hyperbole and paranoia to me.
You're suggesting that just because you have files in your DropBox folder that it's unsecure?
Anything can fail without warning - that's hardly an ongoing and preventative concern of mine. I could turn on the light in my bathroom and *might* pop and yet, here we are. I'm not about to take a flashlight in with me every single time *just in case*.
Your HDD can fail. Your CPU can pop. Your MB can short... I mean, what are you expecting? Putting files on DropBox is no more unsecure than burning it to a DVD or copying it to a Flash drive or leaving it on your HDD.
There are *levels* of security and DropBox is far more secure than you give it credit. If security is a serious concern of yours, turn off the internet.
And regarding the cloud. See paragraph 2.
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Do a Google search using the terms Dropbox Security Breach and then read the article at CNET, a reliable IT information source. FloatingFatMan is right, at least about the security of Dropbox. I'm a bit leary of the Cloud for the same reasons. Do you know who is controlling your data or any of the folks who have access to it?
*yawn*
Yu huh...

Rooted Nook Touch: Calibre friendly?

I rooted my N2E, and played around with it a bit, using TN. Then I restored my unrooted backup, because I couldn't seem to find a convenient way to do the one thing I want to do.
I want to wirelessly browse my calibre library, and download books from it to my nook.
I don't care what method is used. Calibre's content server, dropbox, whatever. I just want a convenient way to sideload books from calibre onto my nook without plugging it in.
But I couldn't find a way that would be simpler than just plugging it in and using Calibre's 'send to device' command, so I unrooted and went back to my backup.
Did I miss something?
On my Nook color with CM7 I use the following setup:
- I set up Calibre to mount a folder as a device, pointing to a dropbox synced folder, so that "send to device" sends epubs to dropbox folder.
- I also use calibre2opds to create a dropbox accessible library to browse from any device (it creates also an HTML browsable version).
- on NookColor I use FolderSyncLite to automatically sync the dropbox folder with a folder on sdcard (eg Nook's MyDocuments).
Then I can use sync feature of Mantano Reader to keep its library in sync with dropbox calibre device or simply use Nook which doesn't need an explicit import to use books in its folder.
I plan to replicate this setup on my Nook Touch, which should arrive today
hello,
I'm using Samba server on nook. Then on Windows I mapped nook as a drive and set up calibre to sync with My Files folder. Works like a charm.
PS I'm new around here so I can not post links. Search market for com.funkyfresh.samba
I use a combination of two methods to sync my books with Calibre and reading devices:
Calibre Library in Dropbox -
Syncs between Computers, can download any Calibre book via Dropbox.
I use this for books I don't want to carry around all the time, school books, manuals, etc.
There are multiple apps which will sync specific folders in Dropbox with specific folders on an android device. One of these could work for automatic syncing.
Wired Connection -
I use this for a large updates of my devices library since it's faster than Dropbox.
When I want to immediately sync a new book to read that I've just obtained.
Oooh, goody
GabrialDestruir said:
I use a combination of two methods to sync my books with Calibre and reading devices:
Calibre Library in Dropbox -
Syncs between Computers, can download any Calibre book via Dropbox.
I use this for books I don't want to carry around all the time, school books, manuals, etc.
There are multiple apps which will sync specific folders in Dropbox with specific folders on an android device. One of these could work for automatic syncing.
Wired Connection -
I use this for a large updates of my devices library since it's faster than Dropbox.
When I want to immediately sync a new book to read that I've just obtained.
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Gives me a good reason to root again. I will try it out, but not until after I sort out the stock 1.1.0 WiFi issues I'm having.
met67 said:
On my Nook color with CM7 I use the following setup:
- I set up Calibre to mount a folder as a device, pointing to a dropbox synced folder, so that "send to device" sends epubs to dropbox folder.
- I also use calibre2opds to create a dropbox accessible library to browse from any device (it creates also an HTML browsable version).
- on NookColor I use FolderSyncLite to automatically sync the dropbox folder with a folder on sdcard (eg Nook's MyDocuments).
Then I can use sync feature of Mantano Reader to keep its library in sync with dropbox calibre device or simply use Nook which doesn't need an explicit import to use books in its folder.
I plan to replicate this setup on my Nook Touch, which should arrive today
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I know this is an old thread but just want to say thanks for spelling this out. some day I will try and mirror this set-up and may have questions
Do Aldiko and Moon+'s ability to add an OPDS catalog not work on a rooted NST?
I have a server in my basement hosting my library. I use CalibretoOPDS to generate both OPDS and HTML catalogs. It's a 'dead' list, in the sense that there's no decent searching, but I have access to it basically anywhere. I can expose it publicly as I'm using Apache and can easily password protect that directory.
There's a Calibre PHP app, that I may move to, just so I can search my library before downloading.
I also use FolderSync to move audiobooks, music, and pictures to my portable devices. I guess I could add epubs to the list if the above doesn't work.
On my server, I have a root folder for each mobile device, then subfolders for audiobooks, music, etc. I have parallel folders on my mobile devices. I run FolderSync on each mobile devices with 2 'folder pairs' for each matching pair of folders. One is SMB, runs locally every night, the other is SFTP, and runs only on demand.
To move something to a mobile device, I just copy it to the appropriate folder on my server, and everything happens 'automatically' - unless I'm on the road, at which point i have to trigger the synchronization.
BTW, for SFTP on windows, I'm having best luck with Sysax 'Multi Server'. Not open source, but you can get a personal use license for free. (As a side note, Aldiko, and maybe Moon+, allow me to specify a port, so I could, but don't currently, set this up to use a commonly-not-blocked port, like 443. I'll do this if I get blocked. FTP is often blocked, also BTW)
I do all this now for a smartphone and a tablet. I recently decided I wanted a specific-purpose reader with e-ink. The NST jumped right out as the right choice. I'm figuring I'll root mine as soon as I get it and so these same things with it, but I'm just planning to use it as a reader (well and maybe limited browsing as I sometimes do that with my library before downloading via OPDS).
Hoping this is more helpful than confusing.
Calibre settings
this seems to be the best place for this question.
I changed the settings in Calibre as to the sort title appending with a letter so I can have books of a certain type listed at the back-end of the Nook Library but they do not sort that way so I have to put the letter in the actual title does anyone know of a better way to sort books using the following set-up?
Nook touch rooted cynogenmod7
Nook Library
Using Calibre to load books with the generic android device (could not make the nook plugin work) would not send to the right place on the Nook
Thanks for any resonses
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Nook touch rooted cynogenmod7
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Are you sure you have a Nook Touch?
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Are you sure you have a Nook Touch?
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Sorry I have the nook color
I have noticed with Calibre it actualy brought my B&N books into the Calibre library, some I can view some I cant. I believe the books I could view were the magazines.
bobkoure said:
[...] I do all this now for a smartphone and a tablet. I recently decided I wanted a specific-purpose reader with e-ink. The NST jumped right out as the right choice. I'm figuring I'll root mine as soon as I get it and so these same things with it, but I'm just planning to use it as a reader (well and maybe limited browsing as I sometimes do that with my library before downloading via OPDS).
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Your plan is a good one. I have done similar. The biggest problem has been that the NST only runs Android 2.1 eclair, and many of my favorite apps seem to require 2.2 froyo or above. I've had to search around for equivalents in some cases.
Dropsync works very well for file synchronization, within the limitations of Dropbox.
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tonyx3 said:
[...] I don't care what method is used. Calibre's content server, dropbox, whatever. I just want a convenient way to sideload books from calibre onto my nook without plugging it in.
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Dropbox + Dropsync works very well for this. I have calibre news feeds set up to download several newspapers and web sites on a schedule. I have a cron job on my home linux server set to grab select titles and move them into dropbox folders (e.g. magazines, newspapers). Dropbox on the server takes care of synchronizing them to the Dropbox cloud.
Each morning, I fire up my NST, enable wireless, and launch Dropsync to synchronize those specific folders.
You could, of course, just synchronize the entire calibre folder, but I like sorting things and limiting what comes down to the latest couple of days worth, so the cron job periodically deletes old stuff from the dropbox folders.
The other nice thing about dropsync is that it is two way. Files I delete on one device (I also have a NOOK color) get deleted off the dropbox folders, then off the other device when I next sync.
I'm using the stock reader, so no syncing of reading positions or any of that nice stuff.
Looks like I might be OK.
FolderSync supports "2.1 and up".
Tasker, "1.6 and up".
Aldiko and Aldiko Sync "2.1 and up"
Moon+ reader "1.6 and up"
EsFileExplorer "1.6 and up" (with a separate version for Cupcake
Root Explorer "1.1 and up" (!)
Dolphin HD "2.01 and up"
Looks like all apps I was thinking of using support 2.1. They may be utterly bad on an e-ink screen, though.
BTW, is that why you're using the stock reader?
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Looks like I might be OK.
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Tasker, "1.6 and up".
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I'm using Tasker to only fire up wifi when specific apps run. It works fine, but it is hard to determine whether an app is selected or not in the list. It takes some trial and error.
[...] Root Explorer "1.1 and up" (!)
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RE works just fine.
BTW, is that why you're using the stock reader?
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I didn't keep notes, but I recall that there were some ebooks that didn't format as nicely with other readers, or options that were difficult to spot on the e-ink screen. It's mostly just a personal choice thing, though. The other readers do work well.

[Q] Box Storage and N4??

So I have been experimenting with storage options since getting my N4 and learning to live without expandable storage...
So far I have been using dropbox for my storage which is mainly for pictures and some videos. The camera upload function and sync have working good so far, although I find it lacking when I am trying to pull a photo up from my dropbox when I am in a spot with poor service. Granted, this is going to happen with anything. I also have google drive and skydrive on the phone, but haven't really delved into them. I took advantage of the free 50GB of storage that box.com is offering and signed up.
Just wondering if anyone has used this, found a method to sync camera/gallery the way dropbox does?
For that matter, just kind of curious for anyone's input on cloud storage as I am a newbie to this on my phone.
I sounds like you're looking for something like FolderSync (search the play store). There's a lite version you can try out.
Basically you set it up to sync a folder on your phone with one in the cloud and yeah it supports box. Hope it helps!

Cloud Storage Setup - How to best utilize?

Just wondering how y'all best utilize cloud storage on your device? This will be my first phone without expandable memory so, if possible, I'd like to set things up so the phone places pictures and other media automatically in the cloud rather than on my device... if that's even possible.
Anyway, just curious how yall have things set up to best utilize the cloud.
FWIW, I have a 50gig box account... so plenty of storage room (in addition to the 64 on the phone). Just need to figure out how to best utilize it!
I have used Dropbox and Copy for backup, but they both seemed to have bugs that prevented syncing from time to time; not to mention they are only free for the first few gigs. Now I use Google Photos for photo/video and it's amazing. MUCH better than either Dropbox or Copy if not only for the stability, but also the insane search features.
For other files I will probably end up using OTG or Pushbullet (small)/Google Drive (large) just to bounce files around between devices.

Replacement for Dropbox

I understand Dropbox will require Android 4.4 in the near future. I have used Dropbox on my Nook for several years to transfer CoolReader bookmarks to my PC.
Is there an alternative to Dropbox?
If you use ES File Explorer, you can connect it to a remote cloud storage via webdav (e.g. an owncloud instance: a few providers here)
Not as slick as dropbox, but certainly more stable than the DropBox proprietary syncing solution.
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If you use ES File Explorer...
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Much obliged.
The good news is my old Dropbox app still works on the NST, albeit with only two other devices. Not so convenient.
The bad new is I cannot use Google's My Drive through ES File Explorer, probably because I didn't root with the Gmail option: thought I'd never need it. I have tried a few Dropbox alternatives but finding old versions of these apps that work with Android 2.1 isn't easy.
Have others found a replacement for Dropbox for their aging NST?
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The good news is my old Dropbox app still works on the NST, albeit with only two other devices. Not so convenient.
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I'm not sure what this means. Are you trying to use the same version of Dropbox on newer devices and seeing problems or...?
When I checked the app recently I found it worked OK in the typical way, sharing an epub between my NST and PC, but perhaps the requirements of CoolReader are something more.
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Are you trying to use the same version of Dropbox on newer devices and seeing problems or...?
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No, Dropbox is entirely adequate for file transfer between my Nook, Desktop PC, and 10" tablet. That adds up to the limit of three devices Dropbox now permits. However, I also transfer files between the Nook and the following devices:
another Desktop PC
a Chromebook
a 7" tablet
and two mobile phones.
With the new Dropbox limit, these transfers are no longer possible.
There are Dropbox alternatives, such as Google Drive, for all of my devices except the Nook. Hence I'm hoping for an alternative to Dropbox that will run on the Nook.
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No, Dropbox is entirely adequate for file transfer between my Nook, Desktop PC, and 10" tablet. That adds up to the limit of three devices Dropbox now permits. However, I also transfer files between the Nook and the following devices:
another Desktop PC
a Chromebook
a 7" tablet
and two mobile phones.
With the new Dropbox limit, these transfers are no longer possible.
There are Dropbox alternatives, such as Google Drive, for all of my devices except the Nook. Hence I'm hoping for an alternative to Dropbox that will run on the Nook.
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Well, wow. That's a lot of electric sheep to ride herd on.
Modding the only Google Drive app that will run on Eclair looks hopeless. When I ran up the line I could not even get versions targeted for KitKat to access my drive on a KitKat device. They kept saying they were too old. So by the time I would find one it would be so different from the Eclair version I could never reconcile the differences.
Cool Reader.....I thought it might have access to Google Drive but when I installed the version that runs on my NST on a KitKat device (since I was still fooling with that) I could not find anything about sync at all (although there was a .crsync file in the "Books" folder). Maybe I just missed it? I confess I find Cool Reader's scattered settings a little disconcerting so it's possible I missed it.
FBReader pulls off the Google Drive interface on the NST by passing the request through their own servers which you give access to a dedicated folder on your Drive. Then the data is passed back to you via their servers. A neat trick as long as you trust them.
Unless Cool Reader does something similar, Google Drive looks like a "NO" option.

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