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Special Sd card format program

It is not warez i think,free tool.
http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/formatter/#download
Would this realy help for better performance?
Just a idea,have no clue if it realy works,just wanted to share the info with you guys
This is the info from the site:
SD Formatter 2.0 for SD/SDHC
This software formats all SD memory cards and SDHC memory cards using a formatting program that complies with official SD memory card requirements. SD formatting provides quick and easy access to your SD memory card. This program may only be used on Windows® 2000, Windows® XP and Windows® Vista®.
SD or SDHC memory card file systems formatted with generic operating system formatting software do not comply with official SD memory card requirements and optimum performance may not be experienced.

Jeez,i am formatting it now with this tool,you can sit back and relax when doing it lol.
It first doing a overwrite erase,after that a flash erase,and after that a format.
If i am done i am going back from 0 to android again (including fresh install windows mobile) and a clean android install.
Let's see if this helps

Is there something wrong with Right Click Drive and Format in Windows?? That is how I formatted my SD Card, no issues..
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sicdroid said:
Is there something wrong with Right Click Drive and Format in Windows?? That is how I formatted my SD Card, no issues..
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Yeah me to normally.....this is just a test,if i must believe the site from this program and i read it good,they say that you get not optimal performance for the sd card when formatting with widows or something

not optimal performace from windows format... hmm, interesting.. keep us updated pls..

I don't 'notice' a difference.
Total commander says still 18mb/s the speed of the card.
Did not test the speed in Quadrant,later this day i am going to compare that
Edit:
Just tested my new setup with quadrant,old score whas 1364.
Now it says 1443!
I don't no if it has something to do with this 'special' format tool.
Maybey some other people can test it to if you are going to do a clean install?

I've tried the program but with ATTO and a USB Card reader from sandisk. I didn't notice any difference. The benchmark results were almost identical.

-NRG- said:
I've tried the program but with ATTO and a USB Card reader from sandisk. I didn't notice any difference. The benchmark results were almost identical.
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With All flash memory starts getting slow with usage. Its why trim was invented for ssd(s).I use [email protected] KillDisk. Zero my card. Then use my phone to format it. Works every time, to cure the "cant find rootfs" issues.
For benchmarking purposes. I put a 6gb of crap data (pictures, mp3, a few movies, etc) on my class 6 8gb kingston sd card. Coped it off. Put it back on replacing everything. I did this 3 times.
"Stock - Windows format":
Read 11mb/s Write: 5.5mb/s
Read 9mb/s Write: 4.2mb/s
Read 5mb/s Write: 3mb/s
Windows Format #2:
Read 8.7mb/s Write: 4mb/s
[email protected] KillDisk:
Read 11.8mb/s Write: 5.7mb/s
just some food for thought. Your mileage will vary.

Thx for also testing!
Going to try active killdisk also
Here 2 screenies before and after,i have 4 times run the test (so 8 times total) and after that i used the highest score from both (windows format/and the special format tool)
Windows format:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Sd card format tool:

Sd card format tool:

O btw:
i use Mattc version 1.5 with full ram zImage,just for the record

there is a newer beta formatter
http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/formatter_3/

Sd cards are flash devices just like ssd's. By using it (filling it with data) it will get slow by time. Because overwrites to sectors will be slow compared to fresh sectors as sd controller does not know actually which sectors are free when you delete files.
By formatting with the above utility and setting erase: ON it will instruct sd controller to release all charge from all flash cells so future writes will be much faster. (On par the day you bought your sd card)
This is comparable to MANUALLY TRIMMING an SSD.
NOTE: Do not confuse Overwrite ERASE with Flash ERASE. Overwrite ERASE is just overwriting sectors with zeroes so data is not recoverable but may not necessarily make your card faster, a real Flash ERASE is a command sent to the controller and will make your card freshly fast in short time. (discharging all sectors is a quick operation compared to overwriting them with null data) Also do not confuse with quick format. ERASE:ON is what you want for performance. (Smaller, older sd cards OR some sd card reader/controllers may not support real ERASE function, you will be notified by the format tool if this is the case
THIS IS AN HARDWARE ISSUE, NOT LOGICAL/SOFTWARE.
This may also fix if hardware sectors do not align with logical sectors. This will affect performance.
You may have trouble finding a configuration that can do flash erase.
Conclusion: Formatting with this tool may enhance your sd card performance and there are no negative affects. Worst case senario is you get do benefit.

memin1857 said:
Sd cards are flash devices just like ssd's. By using it (filling it with data) it will get slow by time. Because overwrites to sectors will be slow compared to fresh sectors as sd controller does not know actually which sectors are free when you delete files.
By formatting with the above utility and setting erase: ON it will instruct sd controller to release all charge from all flash cells so future writes will be much faster. (On par the day you bought your sd card)
This is comparable to MANUALLY TRIMMING an SSD.
NOTE: Do not confuse Overwrite ERASE with Flash ERASE. Overwrite ERASE is just overwriting sectors with zeroes so data is not recoverable but may not necessarily make your card faster, a real Flash ERASE is a command sent to the controller and will make your card freshly fast in short time. (discharging all sectors is a quick operation compared to overwriting them with null data) Also do not confuse with quick format. ERASE:ON is what you want for performance. (Smaller, older sd cards OR some sd card reader/controllers may not support real ERASE function, you will be notified by the format tool if this is the case
THIS IS AN HARDWARE ISSUE, NOT LOGICAL/SOFTWARE.
This may also fix if hardware sectors do not align with logical sectors. This will affect performance.
You may have trouble finding a configuration that can do flash erase.
Conclusion: Formatting with this tool may enhance your sd card performance and there are no negative affects. Worst case senario is you get do benefit.
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when i choose flash erase, the program said that flash erase is not supported by micro sd card or something and skipped it after it had done the full format..

'Flash Erase' doesn't work with Micro SD cards......

Thanks for the updates, this sure does take a long time...especially if you are formating 16GB

very well stuff...
before use i must edit the "rel_path=Android" file to mckbl0 and after format dont need edit startup.txt

Well, this so called tool make me smile.
First of all for any card less or equal 2Gb it formats it in FAT16, yes FAT16 is slightly faster than FAT32, but when you miraculously loose all you data (needles to say your Android folder also) from your card, please recall this warning:
FAT16 is extremely fragile file system and is absolutely not subtable for removable devices!
Second, it partition SD so that it consists of one primary partition, it would've been good if we would've talked about "Big Brother", but we aren't, most mobile devices is tend use card's (not only SD) as unpartitioned disk and in some situations, the way this programs tend to format cards, will cause problems and not to resolve them.
And since 'Flash Erase' doesn't work with Micro SD card as stated by prashanthm, and I've checked that my self, there is only harm from such program.
Of cause it's easy to say all these since I'm typing it from Linux and it really ease to format SD card the way it should with just a single command e.g.:
Code:
su
mkfs.vfat -F32 -n [I][B]Replace with desired label[/B][/I] -I [I][B]Replace with block device name of your card, for example /dev/sdh[/B][/I]
but I can't make every one to migrate to Linux.
Although you could try some Live-CD/DVD, Gentoo minimal with bare console will do the trick, if you'd want more User/GUI-friendly I'd recommend to look for Knopix or even MeeGo.

Guys,
If you are formatting your SDCards with Windows FAT32 don't try to flash an Android ROM from it. If you use CWM recovery to flash, he can't mount the card to see the zip you want to flash. You need to use this program to format on Windows or Mac or else put the card in an Android Phone which has a format program. Most Android Tables don't come with any kind of format program. In the tablet forums people post every day that they can't flash a ROM because ClockWorkMod can't mount their SDHD. When this happens it usually turns out that they formatted the card with Windows, Iphone, Ipad, or Windows Phone. None of those follow the ISO stand for SD Card formatting. Android requires it. This program follow the standard. Just though I would let you guys know that its heavily used in the tablet community. Performance is never even a consideration since external SD are generally use on a Tables and entry point for files destined to go inside the OS. Or for storing backups.

[Q] After reboot I need to format SD card to run Android - why?

I have 16 GB SD card (scan disk) and after I formatted (with card reader on windows XP) the card to FAT32, I run android successfully.
After reboot I started WM (Energy ROM) and when I try to run android again it stuck on boot screen (white screen with HTC in green).
I need to reformat the card again, copy the android folder again and then to run android again.
Is there a possibility to switch between Android & WM without formatting the card every time?

baby jesus doesn't love you anymore

At first, you posted in the wrong topic. This thread should be in Android General Section.
Second, try to format your card two or three times with this tool:
World Formatter
And read this:
Manual
Cheers

i'm joking i have no idea why that's happenning

I'm not sure why your having that problem, maybe cards can get worn after formatting so many times? Not sure, but I haven't formatted my card in over a month and have had WAY less problems than when I use to format it a few times a week.

I have 8gb card, but i never need format, just im copy Android folder to sd, and run Android.
i suggestion, you try another sd card, may be your card have a little problem.

but whatever is your problem is I love the "Baby Jesus" part .. LoL
now to topic -- as said earlier .. try with some other card u have... ur card may be faulty

pixine786 said:
but whatever is your problem is I love the "Baby Jesus" part .. LoL
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+1
And as said, I was also a "format-junkie" but I think it's better to just leave the card as it is. Mine works fine now, I haven't formatted since a month.

i had massive problems on my 16gb card but it all cleared up when i formatted using the format tool under windows mobile on the cell phone. i dont think it matters but im using miri's rom. if you want to know the exact verison of what rom im using let me know.

Help please...problems with my 8gb internal micro sd card

Hello all, i'm new and noob in the android OS and tablets and stuff, so i'l need a little help from you if you would like...i've got a dell streak 5 and somehow i managed to open it and mount an internal micro sd card 8GB class 10 and i installed a android 2.2 on it with the fast boot and qdl tool. now when i try to install some apps i always receive the following msg: sorry, there's not enough space to install this item. i have a 6.4 gb of free space so...what's the problem here? it is not formatted ? and if is not how should i do this?
please help

try to unmount the external sd and try again

U need to research which card are compatible with the streak... I think it only recognizes 2 or 4gb idr
But anywho, you can't just throw in a big card without even seeing if it'll work first..

cameronmfjay said:
U need to research which card are compatible with the streak... I think it only recognizes 2 or 4gb idr
But anywho, you can't just throw in a big card without even seeing if it'll work first..
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That's not true. I have an 8gb card on mine class 4 and works good.

Hardware Hacking the Streak – thread at MoDaCo, main focus is replacing the internal SD Card with a faster, larger card
How-to Increase streak storage up to 62 GB – an extension/continuation of the hardware hacking thread at MoDaCo
Changing Internal SD - thread here at XDA
copied from dif post
Thx marvin02

What I meant was he cant switch cards without prepping the new one and just expect everything to work..

cameronmfjay said:
What I meant was he cant switch cards without prepping the new one and just expect everything to work..
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I did it and worked. Obviously the internal card is just for apps... is he intents to use it as media, he has to make the hack on the link

well, thanks for your help, but i recall i'm a noob and i'm going to remain a noob until i can understand you language. do stuff like linux hack os not so simple for me. yes, i can do it with a proper tutorial or so...so, if you already did this, please take me step by step like a tutorial.
i'll really appreciate your help

Drakonian said:
well, thanks for your help, but i recall i'm a noob and i'm going to remain a noob until i can understand you language. do stuff like linux hack os not so simple for me. yes, i can do it with a proper tutorial or so...so, if you already did this, please take me step by step like a tutorial.
i'll really appreciate your help
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If you want the internal SD for apps, but open it, change you internal SD, and make a factory reset (NOT from the custom recovery, use the Dell screen).
Or do you mean to open your Dell?

Drakonian said:
Hello all, i'm new and noob in the android OS and tablets and stuff, so i'l need a little help from you if you would like...i've got a dell streak 5 and somehow i managed to open it and mount an internal micro sd card 8GB class 10 and i installed a android 2.2 on it with the fast boot and qdl tool. now when i try to install some apps i always receive the following msg: sorry, there's not enough space to install this item. i have a 6.4 gb of free space so...what's the problem here? it is not formatted ? and if is not how should i do this?
please help
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You didn't format it before inserting the new card? The internal sd should be ext3 like this:
Code:
/dev/block/innersd0p5 /cache ext3 rw,nosuid,noatime,nodiratime,errors=continue,commit=99999,data=writeback 0 0
/dev/block/innersd0p6 /data ext3 rw,nosuid,nodiratime,errors=continue,commit=99999,data=writeback 0 0
I don't know how you could install the rom without having acorrect partition type on your sd card, though. Check to see using 'adb shell mount' on your PC. To format the sd card, you'd need a program like parted.
Hope it didn't misunderstand your problem.

yes, i installed android 2.2 without formatting the micro-sd card. if i'm correct, you'll need ext3 partition for the apps, not for the os. or it's done auto when i did this with the qdltool software.
i'll try something else and i'll post the result here

Revive locked SD-card with Killdisk works !

Yesterday I used the tool Killdisk (Free Edition) to try and revive my locked Transcent 16 GB Micro SD Card. I normally use this tool to revive my SSD's when installing a fresh version of Windows. The tool does not look at partitions but simply writes zero's ("00000") to the medium.
I used the Linux version located on the ultimate boot CD (http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/). So I booted my laptop with the ultimate boot CD in it (USB reader + mico SD card plugged in). Ran the Killdisk tool for over 5 hours (!!).
After that I booted my Windows and I was able to format the micro SD card !
So no Nokia phone was needed .....
Hope it works for everybody with a locked card.

yea but how did you get your pc to recognize your sd card i am using my psp thats the only way my pc recognizes my sd card

stenk said:
yea but how did you get your pc to recognize your sd card i am using my psp thats the only way my pc recognizes my sd card
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Within Windows my pc did not recognize my SD card. But when I use the bootcd (restart machine, boot from cdRom enabled) the pc will start a Linux distribution with a menu with all the tools. When starting the Killdisk tool it recognized the locked SD Card. Using this tool from the ultimate boot cd it is all very straight forward. No Linux knowledge is required ....

so i need lenux boot cd? where do i get it?

Look at the first post: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com

Perlian said:
Look at the first post: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com
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Hi Perlian, well done.
For your information, I found the windows version of killdisc (v5.5) and it does recognise that the sd is inserted but says "disc not ready", and you cannot start formatting. Oh well it was worth a try
You should post this method in the "[REF] - Confirmed Devices for unlocking WP7 encrypted SD Cards" thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242071

Robbie P said:
You should post this method in the "[REF] - Confirmed Devices for unlocking WP7 encrypted SD Cards" thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242071
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Just posted my message in the thread ....

Robbie P said:
Hi Perlian, well done.
For your information, I found the windows version of killdisc (v5.5) and it does recognise that the sd is inserted but says "disc not ready", and you cannot start formatting. Oh well it was worth a try
You should post this method in the "[REF] - Confirmed Devices for unlocking WP7 encrypted SD Cards" thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242071
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o I found a solution for that I listen on another thread search for the hp tool o was talking about that got my windows to recognize the card so use that tool and the windows version of kill disk finaly problem solved no need to reboot or make special disk

jackrabbit72380 said:
o I found a solution for that I listen on another thread search for the hp tool o was talking about that got my windows to recognize the card so use that tool and the windows version of kill disk finaly problem solved no need to reboot or make special disk
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Care to share where you found HP tool?
I found winbond http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?cc=uk&lc=en&dlc=en&softwareitem=hb-13086-1 is this it?

Robbie P said:
Care to share where you found HP tool?
I found winbond http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?cc=uk&lc=en&dlc=en&softwareitem=hb-13086-1 is this it?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283232

jackrabbit72380 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283232
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LOL looks like you posted it in the WP7 forum and it only (possibly) works for HD2s.
I hope it does work though
Best of luck
Any takers?

Can anyone provide more info on how to use killdisk with UBcd please?
I don't know if i'm just missing something obvious, but I get as far as launching killdisk, but it doesn't recognise my USB card reader. It only shows hard drives.
Other utilities on the bootcd recognise the card reader, but can't format my sd card.
Can anyone offer some advice, please?
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

Please help me.
Today I downloaded the UltimateBootCD. I've burned on a CD, boot my PC with the USB-Card-Reader and then I choose the option ActiveKillDisk.
What I have to do after this?
I'm afraid that all my HD's are killed after.
Please, sorry for my english!
Is there a manual in german for this program online?
Thanks from Germany

Ziegenpeterli said:
Please help me.
Today I downloaded the UltimateBootCD. I've burned on a CD, boot my PC with the USB-Card-Reader and then I choose the option ActiveKillDisk.
What I have to do after this?
I'm afraid that all my HD's are killed after.
Please, sorry for my english!
Is there a manual in german for this program online?
Thanks from Germany
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you should be able to find your sd by starting killdisk, then inserting the card in cardreader, then hit refresh. The card should appear.
I think there is only one option and that is to format the sd.
As for german, try google killdisk and translate user guide

Robbie P said:
you should be able to find your sd by starting killdisk, then inserting the card in cardreader, then hit refresh. The card should appear.
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Thanks for your reply, but I using UBcd I still can't see my USB card reader, even after refreshing etc.
On the UBcd menu it gives a summary of what each program does, and Killdisk is listed as being able to wipe hard drives, but it doesn't say USB devices.
Other programs on UBcd which list USB support recognise the card reader, but can't format my SD card.
Is there a later version of killdisk which supports USB??

aled99 said:
Thanks for your reply, but I using UBcd I still can't see my USB card reader, even after refreshing etc.
On the UBcd menu it gives a summary of what each program does, and Killdisk is listed as being able to wipe hard drives, but it doesn't say USB devices.
Other programs on UBcd which list USB support recognise the card reader, but can't format my SD card.
Is there a later version of killdisk which supports USB??
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hmm thats a very good question & id say it is the last question in our serch for soluion to bad no one else has commented much on this subject anyway if thare is not
lunix is open sorce so maby we could mod the kill disk program or boot cd?
i have not atempted to even download or use the program kildisk so i dont have any idia but i am no stanger to lunix and all of its 32 flavers!
i dont see why we couldent add some more code to it to enable it to serch for usb?
if it would help users it might be worth a shot
truth be told i know its a real pain to have your card locked and basicly bricked and locked and bound to the wp7 os only
i searched for a week to find a solution and made a tutorial out of puting to and to together and connecting te dots and it wasent easy and as it turnsd out it only works for hd2 users and even that is unconfermed at teh moment
i eventuly got back mybricked & then resurected phone and reinsteled my wp7 os with the locked card wich enabled me to then just use an application to unlock it from the phone wich seams to be the easyest way right now
the fact that we find these tools and thay actuly work is only ben confermed buy one person at the time i wright this
i think it should be in the fine print in the orional post
IF YOUR GOING TO DOWNGRADE FROM WP7.5 TO ANY OTHER ROM YOU MUST FIRST UNLOCK YOUR MICRO SD CARD! with one of the knowen methods!
all i read at the time was some lunix disrto unlocked it sence then devices have ben confermed and also other unlocking metod like this!
if you to end up finding a new way with your usb addapter problum please post your results!​

i need clearence now because this makes me sick, my cards are not detectet on wp7 phones, storage error, and not on my pc, if i start killdisk vie ultimatebootcd, theres the option wipe hdd and then there are some creazy parameters to choose, would really be nice if someone could specifiy what exactly should be done

weeezel said:
i need clearence now because this makes me sick, my cards are not detectet on wp7 phones, storage error, and not on my pc, if i start killdisk vie ultimatebootcd, theres the option wipe hdd and then there are some creazy parameters to choose, would really be nice if someone could specifiy what exactly should be done
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The first thing you have to make sure is that you see and select the correct drive. The way I did it was that I first booted everything without the usb-micro-SD-card reader to see what drives it would see. After that I plugged in the reader, rebooted the machine and ran killdisk again. I saw that my SD card was identified as a floppy drive.
The screen looks similar like this:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Just make sure you select the SD-card and choose to Erase (in this case F10)
To confirm the selection you will have to type: ERASE-ALL-DATA in the pop-up.
The you will have to wait for a few hours ....
Good luck !
Perlian

settings
Hi, what need i set in killdisk for see the usb?
I try format, but killdisk don't show usb devices.
In ultimate bood disk, i choose killdisk, after what need i set?
i have many otion (optimal, defense etc...)
And after i see usb install menu. I choose panasonic usb 2.0.
But i don't see my usb drive.
Sorry for my eng :S

Perlian said:
The first thing you have to make sure is that you see and select the correct drive. The way I did it was that I first booted everything without the usb-micro-SD-card reader to see what drives it would see. After that I plugged in the reader, rebooted the machine and ran killdisk again. I saw that my SD card was identified as a floppy drive.
The screen looks similar like this:
Just make sure you select the SD-card and choose to Erase (in this case F10)
To confirm the selection you will have to type: ERASE-ALL-DATA in the pop-up.
The you will have to wait for a few hours ....
Good luck !
Perlian
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Tried that, but it fails. It does not even proceed, Just says error, card is not ready or some other error. And I have tried all version of Kill Disk :-(

Triple Boot WP7+SD+NativeSD EXT4 @ 1 SD with pictures

Lets try to triple Boot our HD2's with WIN7 + SD + Native SD via Magldr, although I got mine working OK, i'm not entirely sure if this is viable to all. please see last part.
I assume you already have Magldr in your HD2 & its either running WP7 or Andy in NAND or already dual Boots.
If not flash WP7 first in NAND by trying to follow this, WP7 is always in NAND **Anything you have in NAND/ SD will be deleted including CWM**
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25781675#post25781675
after that is done the partitioning begins
1 FAT32 Partition
1 EXT4 Partition
1 WP7 Partition
MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition (MTPW) using this to do those above.
Be very careful when using the minitool partition as you can accidentally format/ delete your Hard Disk Partition.
i'll be using a 16g card & after flashing WP7 it uses the SD Card as it's own storage using it's own format similar to a RAID setup making it like an Internal storage & what's left is usually 200mb of free space. We need to take back some of that space! :cyclops:
A - Set Magldr > Service > Boot Setting > Always Menu
After you reboot & setup WP7 go to:
••settings > about > reset your phone > YES! > phone re-boots
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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since you set A your still in magldr (don't let it boot to WP7 - yet), remove the card, put it in your PC & run MTPW
you will see something like this
right click on the larger (other)(14.64GB) partition & choose delete
right click on the larger (now unallocated)(14.64GB) partition & choose create partition as "Logical" with "Unformatted" file system.
Slide the tab to the Right leaving a partition slightly larger than 1/2 the SD card that was shown in MTPW
Make sure the "Unallocated Space After : is ZERO 0
after pressing OK something like below will show
Noticed that the "Unformatted" is larger than the "Unallocated" partition
click "Apply" & wait for it to finish.
••Close MTPW > insert SD card to HD2 > Boot WPH
WP7 will continue to boot & do the usual setup stuff
settings > about > to see if the partition has changed.
Turn OFF the phone, take out the SD card & plug it in the PC then run MTPW
the "Unformatted" before now becomes "other" to MTPW which WP7 formatted for it's own use.
right click on the 200MB "other" partition & delete it!
noticed that it combined with the "unallocated" partition & now we have just 2 partitions
right click on the "unallocated" partition
Create As > Primary > FAT32
slide the Tab to the Left for the EXT4 partition, i choose around 2g
when you press OK, an allocated space will be there
right click on the "unallocated" partition
Create As > Primary > EXT4
right click on the "Other" partition
Modify > Set partition as Primary
Now we have 3 Primary Partitions, click Apply & when all is done your ready to go!
copy all the necessary files you need to the SD & see if WP7 boots First, see more on NativeSD+EXT4 below
NativeSD Rom+EXT4 for New Users with peechurs
Error Message
when i ran EXT4 recovery there was an error message & it does not boot to TWRP (touch), although with this error message all seems to be running ok - for now :fingers-crossed:
Many thanks to the Dev's & Guys that gave us so much for our HD2, don't forget to hit the "Thanks" button for our guys! :highfive:
for partitioning I followed This

Hey man , thanks for tutorial.
I'm using WP7 on my tmous hd2 for long time.
Today i decided to try dual boot native sd and wp7 , and i was searching all day how to do it.
However i accidently did what you wrote there , formatted my main hard disk!
And now trying to recover my partition
I'll try dual boot with that tutorial tomorrow.

YIKES!!!
that's what I was afraid of, that's why I made BIG & Clear, well actually it happened to me once a long long time ago
Anyways there are powerful partition recovery out there, I hope you get it back.

Man this is a pretty good guide, it is also needed to as Native SD is still new to the HD2. I am glad to see you can use 4EXT with the HD2 now as I feel it is truly the best custom recovery out at the current time. I absolutely love the 4EXT recovery Control app, it is the paid version but you can also get the 4EXT Updater app which is free but not all the features are available in it. I am going to suggest this guide for the Portal as it proves you can multiboot OS using Native SD. Thanks for taking time to write this up mengfei.

thanks Man!
I just extended the dual boot of WP+SD to include EXT4 & i hope it's helpful to those that want to have as much option as they can have. I now have like 10 roms just in case one goes bonkers, what a Paranoid hehehe :cyclops:
BTW here's Xylograph's reply to the error I was getting.
Originally Posted by Xylograph View Post
It's because WP7 is using that 2nd (non EXT3 or EXT4) partition and 4EXT recovery doesn't recognize that FS..
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so i guess it's not that serious :fingers-crossed:

:highfive: wonderful tutorial in very easy language... I am sure one does not need to scroll up-down too many times to see the steps...
I have been away from WP7 for a long time but would like to taste it once again

Hi mengfei, do you expierence poor speed performance on android with triple boot? I installed NexusHD2 rom with nativesd and, I must say, it is painfully slow and barely usable. Even downloading something to the card is slow. I have no speed problem with wp7. I have a transcend 8gb class 6 with this partition layout: 2,5Gb Fat32, 1,5 EXT4, 3gb for wp7. Is there something I can check or I can do to improve my android installation or the speed of sdcard?

@serverless
no problem with my 16g Sandisk Class 10, just flashed JB AOKP's latest & it's buttery smooth.
I had problems with a 4g Sandisk which i think had a problem or is fake even when running normal SD Rom's & my Class 10 16g Transcent is not compatible with WP7 - it wont detect it.
if you can try another Card or reformat the card, give it shot.
HTH

apurohit said:
:highfive: wonderful tutorial in very easy language... I am sure one does not need to scroll up-down too many times to see the steps...
I have been away from WP7 for a long time but would like to taste it once again
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i'm glad you found it useful

mengfei said:
i'm glad you found it useful
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Yes, it is very good. though I now feel that I need to change my SD card. I have an 8 GB Class 2 SD card (the main culprit for slow speed) and now I am thinking to buy a 16/32 GB SD card but confuse with the class. I know Android write data on non-sequential manner but which one would be better? I am thinking of buying either Class 4, 6 and 10 SD card.
Thanks

@apurohit
here's one's posters take on about SD speeds
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1881205&page=4
meingott said:
Because Class 2 and 4 have better random access speed than an Class 6 or Class 10! Class 2 or 4 was the better choice for an OS, Class 6 or 10 was the better choice for big datas like movies or pictures, because they have a cache! This cache (Class 6/10) must always rebuild and this make it very slow for random access.
Also sorry for my bad english.
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I am using a class 10 16g Sandisk & it seems to run well though I wish I had a 32gig

mengfei said:
@apurohit
here's one's posters take on about SD speeds
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1881205&page=4
I am using a class 10 16g Sandisk & it seems to run well though I wish I had a 32gig
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Many thanks, once again :good:

By the way , i took back all my files which i formatted that day with partition recovery wizard :highfive:
Then i followed your steps and flashed wp7 and android. Everything is working perfectly in spite of using 16gb class 2 sandisk.
Today i bought a 16gb class 10 sandisk mobile ultra which is specially for android devices (thats what they said) and will flash android again.

I have question regarding the used radio when dual booting wph7 and android (native sd). Currently I use radio 2.15.50.14, as I did with android on NAND. Now I read that in wph7 it's recommended to use radio 5.51T. Is that even possible?
I'm sorry if that's the wrong thread or a stupid question.

@soulforger
good to know you got your files back! :highfive:
let us know how it goes with those cards.
@derschnelle
2.15.50.14 is good for all, once you flash this radio from the start you can leave it alone with WP7 or Andy. One Radio to rule them all :cyclops:

serverless said:
Hi mengfei, do you expierence poor speed performance on android with triple boot? I installed NexusHD2 rom with nativesd and, I must say, it is painfully slow and barely usable. Even downloading something to the card is slow. I have no speed problem with wp7. I have a transcend 8gb class 6 with this partition layout: 2,5Gb Fat32, 1,5 EXT4, 3gb for wp7. Is there something I can check or I can do to improve my android installation or the speed of sdcard?
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hi, did you fix the speed problem that you where having? if so what was the problem in the first place? please do let us know. thanks.

Hello mengfei,
Thank you a lot for your excellent tutorial. It's I've been looking for.
Would you Please let me know how to install native SD Android ROM on such prepared SD (WP7 delletes CMR I use to install zip ROMs from SD) or maybe you can address my question to developer who knows ?
Thank you once again and regards,
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Hello again,
I've read your tutorial again, carefully and came to conclusion that my request is senseless, everything is described. So, I'll try to install WP7 on NAND and AD on nativeSD.
Thanks again,

Hi,
I have followed the tutorial but my nativesdrom (evoHD2v10final) can't find the FAT32 partition. So i can't use the storage.
i have 3 partitions: FAT32 + EXT4 + unformatted( wp7)
Does any has the problem?
Thanks in advance

I am going to get hd2
one of the legendary devices out there

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