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Hey Guys,
is that real?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_XHL5CB_7w
one second for booting into android on the desire hd? it's hard to believe. what do you think?
romskii said:
Hey Guys,
is that real?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_XHL5CB_7w
one second for booting into android on the desire hd? it's hard to believe. what do you think?
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Its real, its called standby mode or something. You have to turn on the phone for a first time and (slow) boot normally. Then you can pick to turn it off with the standby mode.
thats one of the fastest boots I EVER seen on smart phones!! I hope htc hd2 support those cool stuff!! Cant wait for the devs to make it perfect...
not a real boot\reboot...it's a simply stand by mode (like u do on ur laptop simply closing the cover)
alexleon said:
not a real boot\reboot...it's a simply stand by mode (like u do on ur laptop simply closing the cover)
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Exactly. It sucks down power also when it's supposedly "off". This also makes you wonder.......what if you're shutting it off due to the fact that a program has gone kablooie on you?
So .. It Seems the with SD / RAM / NAND
My Poor HD2 Takes Forever to boot!
Lets Post Some Speeds ... See How It Is Compared!
Mine NAND is ..
Boot Loader : 24.5 < Were go go go Ends
Service and Lock Screen : 245.5
Lock Screen With Service & Data : 258.5
Total: 283 Secs = 4.72 Minutes ????
Seems Like a Lot .. When WM Boots in what 1-3?
RAM was very fast .. But you had to boot WM First so .. 1-3 for WM and 1-2 for RAM ?
So I Guess About the same LOL
WarlockW said:
So .. It Seems the with SD / RAM / NAND
My Poor HD2 Takes Forever to boot!
Lets Post Some Speeds ... See How It Is Compared!
Mine is ..
Boot Loader : 24.5 < Were go go go Ends
Service and Lock Screen : 245.5
Lock Screen With Data : 258.5
Total: 283 Secs = 4.72 Minutes ????
Seems Like a Lot .. When WM Boots in what 1-3?
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Check the video in mdj's nand threads, it's less than 3mins.
Mine is 2minsfrom magldr to cmylxgo 1.3n.
Sent from my HD2 Droid (HD) using XDA App
What build are you using? Mine doesn't seem to take that long (mdj's cm7 build) ... also how many times have you rebooted the device? I usually set critical things up first boot then reboot then set up personal non-critical things then reboot again so as to let the rom settle in =] you also should disable GPS and bt as those might cause delay in bootup =] hope that helped
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
jose makalolot said:
Check the video in mdj's nand threads, it's less than 3mins.
Mine is 2minsfrom magldr to cmylxgo 1.3n.
Sent from my HD2 Droid (HD) using XDA App
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Hmmm I Am On 2.0.1n Thats Interesting - 2 full minutes longer ?
I Wonder Why >?
CMYLXGO's Stock Desire HD v2.0.1n
Yea .. they are off .. Both are GPS and BT ..
I am Just Really Curious What Others are getting
hey,
nice idea what you bring here
it will help us to decide witch build is faster
for mine, it takes exactly 01:19sec from blank screen shutdown to receive the network signal and ready for usage.
I'm using Gingerbread recovery build at this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877777
it is not very fast as I expect, but good one.
any way, thanks for this idea,
(I'm really excited to see the results of other users)
downloadzy said:
hey,
nice idea what you bring here
it will help us to decide witch build is faster
for mine, it takes exactly 01:19sec from blank screen shutdown to receive the network signal and ready for usage.
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Wow Nice ..
I'm using NexusHD2 Gingerbread NAND (available here), and I'm gobsmacked by the above "speeds".
From power off to lockscreen with data it takes me 49 seconds.
An Android restart (not full power off, but an app running a reboot of Android) takes 20 seconds.
I didn't realise other builds were so slow
johncmolyneux said:
I'm using NexusHD2 Gingerbread, and I'm gobsmacked by the above "speeds".
From power off to lockscreen with data it takes me 49 seconds.
An Android restart (not full power off, but an app running a reboot of Android) takes 20 seconds.
I didn't realise other builds were so slow
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Kicks .. johncmolyneux In The $#@$ Really ? Nand > or ?
( I Hate You ) lol
WarlockW said:
Kicks .. johncmolyneux In The $#@$ Really ? Nand > or ?
( I Hate You ) lol
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NAND mate - I've updated the above post with a link to it.
Im using NANDroid JDSM v1.6.2, complete reboot time is 54 sec. OC to 1190Mhz and reboot times drop to 41 sec.
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NAND mate - I've updated the above post with a link to it.
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I'm confused...do you have the NexusHD2 Gingerbread build? Or the Froyo build? 'Cause you linked the Froyo...lol
Hacksor said:
I'm confused...do you have the NexusHD2 Gingerbread build? Or the Froyo build? 'Cause you linked the Froyo...lol
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Sorry - my bad. It's fixed now, and it's the Gingerbread build.
Cheers mate
From power off, 50 sec to lock screen, another 10s to get carrier and finish sd check. This is on tytung's gingerbread build.
Kicks .. EVERYONE In The $#@$
I knew this was a bad idea LOL
WarlockW said:
I knew this was a bad idea LOL
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LOL
Get some Gingerbread on your phone. You won't regret it
I don't know that it's necessarily gingerbread. The boot time for jdms is about the same for me. Also it only took 14 seconds from power off to go go go. So it's a little wierd what your phone is doing, it's almost like it's running on reduced power or something.
buzz killington said:
I don't know that it's necessarily gingerbread. The boot time for jdms is about the same for me. Also it only took 14 seconds from power off to go go go. So it's a little wierd what your phone is doing, it's almost like it's running on reduced power or something.
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Yea .. Seems like a lot to me also .. just for the boot launcher 24.5
My gauner HD-FI 0.3 starts in 3-4min..
Uhmm...
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
did you do a task 29 before you started with your current nand rom ?
I had the same problem i came from a Winmo rom and dumped android on it and boot time was HORRIBELE. Did a task 29 and my HD2 boots in under a min now.
Hmmmm... I dont remember lol will give that a try! Thanks!
Sent from my HTC HD2
desire HD rom port fot n1
there is a desire HD rom port to n1 ?
and it support the fast boot that in thr desire HD
if there are such thing please give it to me
tantk's
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=784260
Just two clicks ? To much for you?!
i tried it but it doesnt work , the devce stuck when i turn it on , [i did the wipe]
and this rom dont have sence ui of htc.. why ?
try d rom in evildroid.net.
gunrjurh said:
there is a desire HD rom port to n1 ?
and it support the fast boot that in thr desire HD
if there are such thing please give it to me
tantk's
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http://bit.ly/egHJ10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791151
thank's avery one ! but you didnt answer my question , it possible that the rom support the fast boot that in the desire HD ? and the sense ?
The ROM - it IS the Sense ROM from Desire HD.
Fastboot - you have Nexus, not Desire HD. Fastboot is tied with the phone, not the ROM.
I believe you don't know what you're talking about yet, so you should read some more.
The fast boot feature the OP is talking about has nothing to do with fastboot, just in case anyone is getting confused at this point
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...s-5-second-boot-times-magic-trickery-or-both/
gunrjurh said:
thank's avery one ! but you didnt answer my question , it possible that the rom support the fast boot that in the desire HD ? and the sense ?
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Try it for yourself and find out. All your questions are answered in the thread about those ROMs.
DirkGently1 said:
The fast boot feature the OP is talking about has nothing to do with fastboot, just in case anyone is getting confused at this point
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...s-5-second-boot-times-magic-trickery-or-both/
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Good one! Some more confusion. Sorry for being the confused one.
i meen what DirkGently1 said , so i tried: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791151
and like i thought it doesnt support the fast boot , and it often stuck [maybe because it steel beta] , i search in google but i dont sure that the rom i find support the fast boot , may you please give me one that support it ?
I am not a dev but I think the major problem with Desire HD roms on N1 is that they used too much ram memory,an usual N1 rom is ~100mb while a Desire port rom 150mb and the Desire HD port...260mb!!!
Meaning every and each stock app is heavier and is slowing down the N1!
The only solution is to replace some stock HD apps with normal Desire ones to make it lighter...
Anyway the best rom will be Desire HD + gingerbread for N1
Perhaps I will buy the desire 2 before it will be available
ahhhh now i'm understand why tha N1 stuck often.. but the rom is great so i dont care , one of the most importent thing for me ib this rom is the fast boot , something that very miss to me ,
Well, as it usually happens, it's wrong, and on more than one point.
It's not RAM, but Flash memory that Desire HD ROM uses. And using Apps2SD, it doesn't matter at all. It doesn't slow down N1, it doesn't get it stuck, it doesn't do anything of the sort. The apps just run as they do - and the CPU between Desire HD and Nexus One is EXACTLY the same (minus GPU and some other small differences).
If the ROM gets stuck - it means that the porting didn't work 100%, and there are still unfinished corners left. The same about the features - what's missing is missing because the phones are different and some things weren't adapted to run well on another phone with different HW.
To OP: this feature - quick boot from hibernation - is specified in the ROM thread and is working, and it's even shown on Youtube. If you don't get it working - it means you don't know how to. You're probably turning off the phone instead of hibernating it, and expect it to boot as fast as it would resume from hibernation.
Remember to wipe phone before install a new rom. Plus do a back up before even doing anything. nandroid back up now...
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
i must to put the n1 on hibernating ?
in yhe desire HD it also like this ?
Of course it is. The ROM can't and doesn't boot in 5 sec - it resumes from hibernation in 5 sec.
so what is good in hibernating ? i can lock the n1 and it the same
Hibernate = power off, memory saved on flash. The power isn't drawn from the battery (well, almost).
Lock = power on, sleep mode. The power is drawn from the battery.
See the difference?
Hi there,
I will get a HD mini in a few days and I was wondering if the HTC HD Mini is a mini HD2 or not (hope my question is not too stupid) ?
And if yes, is the Nand available for the HD2 can be used for the HD Mini ?
Tarmac
Hi Tarmac,
I don't think that this is the good section but... whatever !
The HD Mini has a 600Mhz CPU (vs 1Ghz), a 320x480 pixels screen (vs 480x800) and many other different things.
So I'm pretty sure that nothing of the HD2 will work (and with and old 600Mhz CPU, what can you expect ? maybe a first Wildfire ROM base...)
I haven't checked but does the HD Mini have a subsection on this forum ?
you should have posted this in Q/A thread.
and no you cannot use things related to hd2 with hd mini.
there is a seperate thread for hd mini.
as well as i know, hd mini can run sd android (with the help of cotulla of course)
but i haven't heard about nand android running in hd mini.
bro check this for ur hd mini..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1087
NainSG said:
Hi Tarmac,
I don't think that this is the good section but... whatever !
The HD Mini has a 600Mhz CPU (vs 1Ghz), a 320x480 pixels screen (vs 480x800) and many other different things.
So I'm pretty sure that nothing of the HD2 will work (and with and old 600Mhz CPU, what can you expect ? maybe a first Wildfire ROM base...)
I haven't checked but does the HD Mini have a subsection on this forum ?
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mutil said:
you should have posted this in Q/A thread.
and no you cannot use things related to hd2 with hd mini.
there is a seperate thread for hd mini.
as well as i know, hd mini can run sd android (with the help of cotulla of course)
but i haven't heard about nand android running in hd mini.
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sachin kundu said:
bro check this for ur hd mini..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1087
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Thanks guys !
I have tried to look for a HD Mini section but did not find it, si thank you
NainSG said:
Hi Tarmac,
I don't think that this is the good section but... whatever !
The HD Mini has a 600Mhz CPU (vs 1Ghz), a 320x480 pixels screen (vs 480x800) and many other different things.
So I'm pretty sure that nothing of the HD2 will work (and with and old 600Mhz CPU, what can you expect ? maybe a first Wildfire ROM base...)
I haven't checked but does the HD Mini have a subsection on this forum ?
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lol n00b
many of WM games/apps use resolution upscaling/downscaling so that meant it can run on many resolutions,developers are not building games/apps only for a resolution or only for a phone...
and about CPU...it has NOTHING to do with ROM ))
we can port ROM's of whatever HTC Android with Android 2.2,2.3 phone and run it on Mini...
Actually it is counted (by apps) as it is HD2 , lets say barcode scanners tells you to choose your mobile phone:
htc HD
hd2
touch
touch pro
diamon
...etc
only HD2 will work fine as it is the same library files (as program says)
thethiny said:
Actually it is counted (by apps) as it is HD2 , lets say barcode scanners tells you to choose your mobile phone:
htc HD
hd2
touch
touch pro
diamon
...etc
only HD2 will work fine as it is the same library files (as program says)
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and what is your point which you are trying to make?
tzacapaca said:
and what is your point which you are trying to make?
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HD2's ROM = HD's
thethiny said:
HD2's ROM = HD's
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huh?
....
Some apps use HD2 profiles as Mini's
I am going to buy HTC HD2 or HTC Desire HD.
1)From what I know hd2 was made to work with Windows Mobile but supports Android, I wanted to know if the HD2 will run Android smoothly without problems & bugs? Android Market works?
2)The HD2's touch is smooth while running Android? or it has delays?
3) How the Desire HD is different from the HD2? I know the camera is better in desire hd and also the RAM is a bit higher, but what else
4)HD2 works perfectly with Android 2.3 Gingerbread?
5)The phone memory in the HD2 is lower than the Desire HD, wanted to know if it's making a big difference.
6)Desire HD run games/Apps faster than HD2?
That's all for now, thanks for helper
koloko12 said:
I am going to buy HTC HD2 or HTC Desire HD.
1)From what I know hd2 was made to work with Windows Mobile but supports Android, I wanted to know if the HD2 will run Android smoothly without problems & bugs? Android Market works?
2)The HD2's touch is smooth while running Android? or it has delays?
3) How the Desire HD is different from the HD2? I know the camera is better in desire hd and also the RAM is a bit higher, but what else
4)HD2 works perfectly with Android 2.3 Gingerbread?
5)The phone memory in the HD2 is lower than the Desire HD, wanted to know if it's making a big difference.
6)Desire HD run games/Apps faster than HD2?
That's all for now, thanks for helper
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1)HD2 runs android smoothly imho... android 4.0 may have a few problems but thats like every other device
2)im running sense 3.5 which is gingerbread and the touch screen is very responsive no delay
3)dont know anything about the desire but i know that the roms for desire get ported to hd2 so we get there roms anyway
4)as i said earlier gingerbread sense 3.5 is great (using the ENERGY rom)
5) i dont thik the less memory makes a difference i have installed a fair few apps and still have room to spare
6)app/game speed differs between devices some may be faster on hd2 than desire you never know... i find the apps are quite fast
hope this helps
Thanks MkBy for the fast response, here are some more things I would Like to know
1)What you suggest to buy?
2)Which one is cheaper?
3)I might buy one of them from someone (not new from shop), what should I check to make sure the phone is working well and without problems?
koloko12 said:
Thanks MkBy for the fast response, here are some more things I would Like to know
1)What you suggest to buy?
2)Which one is cheaper?
3)I might buy one of them from someone (not new from shop), what should I check to make sure the phone is working well and without problems?
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I haven't used the DHD too much so I can't say which is better but 0my HD2 on CM7 appeared to keep up in performance in terms of scrolling, web browsing, opening apps etc. (i.e. not benchmarks) with my friend's DHD on CM7, and I would guess the HD2 is cheaper but the HD2 is absolutely terrible for playing HD games or games involving multitouch. In order for HD games to run smoothly you have to sacrifice either speed or graphics, and the HD2's screen only supports 2 points which is a massive let down for me. As much as I love the HD2, if it were up to me and both were around the same price I would go for the DHD, even if it is a slight bit more expensive
Nigeldg said:
the HD2's screen only supports 2 points which is a massive let down for me
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You mean that if I will try touch the screen on HD2 with three fingers it will detect only two of them?
koloko12 said:
You mean that if I will try touch the screen on HD2 with three fingers it will detect only two of them?
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Yes, unfortunately It does that very poorly as well, I can't describe it but sometimes it appears to lock the two points together if they are on the same line if you know what I mean, it's quite difficult to describe.
Let's compare the Touch screen to SE Xperia's touch screen, I know that in Xperia you can work with 2 fingers and even more, HD2 can work with 2 fingers like Xperia does? I mean same quality of touch
koloko12 said:
Let's compare the Touch screen to SE Xperia's touch screen, I know that in Xperia you can work with 2 fingers and even more, HD2 can work with 2 fingers like Xperia does? I mean same quality of touch
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1 Finger flawless
2 Fingers decent
3+ Fingers doesn't work
NONE OF THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE INNUENDO
As I said before, I might buy one of them from someone (not new from shop), what should I check to make sure the phone is working well and without problems?
I have an HD2 and am currently running the Energy ROM with sense 3.5 and Gingerbread. The screen is extremely responsive and over all the phone works great. I would recommend getting the HD2. It is one of the best phone out there as far as specs go and it isn't that expensive anymore.
If you want to buy a second-hand HD2, I would like to suggest you to check:
1. 3G data connection (refer to This)
2. Button response
3. Camera flashlight
4. Record video for 5 mins
5. earphone jack and some MP3
6. blue tooth file transfer
7. speaker
8. GPS in some navigation apps
9. Wifi of course
10.Ninja fruit for multi-touch test
Better bring a TF card with files or pics you want to test.
Since my HD2 has data connection freeze issue, I suggest you to buy a whole new handset like ONE X (if you like htc), with warranty. All these unsolved problems on HD2 are driving me crazy.
I'm running hd2 with ics tytung v1.5 with little to no known problems other than music app fc'ing. Their is a touch issue, namely screen lag, but I only notice it when playing games at a fast pace. Hd2's seem to regarded as highly adaptable as well. Not sure about dhd.
Sent from my NexusHD2 using xda premium
Nigeldg said:
1 Finger flawless
2 Fingers decent
3+ Fingers doesn't work
NONE OF THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE INNUENDO
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LOLOL
I think if you need faster device, Desire HD is choice (i see from the specifiaction..), but if you need monster device, HD2 is choice,,,,
It can running a lot of OS,,,
dooshbag45 said:
I'm running hd2 with ics tytung v1.5 with little to no known problems other than music app fc'ing. Their is a touch issue, namely screen lag, but I only notice it when playing games at a fast pace. Hd2's seem to regarded as highly adaptable as well. Not sure about dhd.
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Hi dooshbag45, I am thinking of changing my gingerbread rom to ICS. My current rom keeps rebooting when I am using headphone to listen to music. If i use loudspeaker it does not reboot. I have even had to think twice buying a beats audio headphone because of this problem. Does the ICS rom that you're using only fc or rebooting also? Is it only when you're using the default music app or also with third party app? Mine even reboots when i am using winamp.
hd2 pros
Many OS available (android, wp7, Ubuntu, etc)
Great screen (for devices age)
EASILY nodded
Cons
Touchscreen issues - using more than one finger recognition, failing digitizer (design flaw)
Data drop (happens to some, a simple disconnect/reconnect solves)
1 rear 5mp cam
Specs are showing their age but still hang with the best of em!!!
I've had a hands on with a friends DHD so the below is based on a QUICK hands on
DHD pros
Native android
Slight advantage on HD2 (hardware specs)
Cons
Smaller screen
You want android ... You're stuck with it!
Cons
Smaller screen
You want android ... You're stuck with it!
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Incorrect. The Desire HD has a screen of 4.3", which is as large as the HD2.
Hi
I've used both. And both are great devices too. The only drawback for both of em are lack of front cam. But IMHO go for a newer model. Like sensation and EVO 3d. You may get it cheaper also.
But the final decision be yours.
Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515m using XDA