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[Q] Desire HD Startup

Hey Guys,
is that real?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_XHL5CB_7w
one second for booting into android on the desire hd? it's hard to believe. what do you think?

romskii said:
Hey Guys,
is that real?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_XHL5CB_7w
one second for booting into android on the desire hd? it's hard to believe. what do you think?
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Its real, its called standby mode or something. You have to turn on the phone for a first time and (slow) boot normally. Then you can pick to turn it off with the standby mode.

thats one of the fastest boots I EVER seen on smart phones!! I hope htc hd2 support those cool stuff!! Cant wait for the devs to make it perfect...

not a real boot\reboot...it's a simply stand by mode (like u do on ur laptop simply closing the cover)

alexleon said:
not a real boot\reboot...it's a simply stand by mode (like u do on ur laptop simply closing the cover)
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Exactly. It sucks down power also when it's supposedly "off". This also makes you wonder.......what if you're shutting it off due to the fact that a program has gone kablooie on you?

any reason to change hd2 for desire hd?

I have hd2 with custom nrg rom and android 2.2. i was thinking of changing it for desire hd but are there any advantages except the camera.
tnx

Better processer, better gpu, better build quality, better sound, better screen and more internal storage.
Its just better

teihoata said:
Better processer, better gpu, better build quality, better sound, better screen and more internal storage.
Its just better
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+1 and don't forget also the OS. Windows mobile is just fail.

marko_mk said:
I have hd2 with custom nrg rom and android 2.2. i was thinking of changing it for desire hd but are there any advantages except the camera.
tnx
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Even running Android on the HD2, while good, isn't as good as a Desire HD. I know. I upgraded from it

marko_mk said:
I have hd2 with custom nrg rom and android 2.2. i was thinking of changing it for desire hd but are there any advantages except the camera.
tnx
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LOL, if you are asking yourself this question and even are asking it on a forum dedicated to the Desire HD, the question must be rhetorical I speculate that you are looking for really good arguments that will stop you from buying one.
I bet you already have one right now

still not available in my country
i'm still waiting to become available in macedonia . So guys you say that the android port for hd2 will never be like the stock one on desire hd. when it arrives I'm definitively going to buy it

marko_mk said:
i'm still waiting to become available in macedonia . So guys you say that the android port for hd2 will never be like the stock one on desire hd. when it arrives I'm definitively going to buy it
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you know its right

the new HTC sense on DHD is actually really really good!
I think this is what android should be. there are loads of subtle and nice functions such as notification for switch battery usage profile when battery below 15%, the super fast boot time (oooh yeahhh!)
and also HTC Hub that allows download of HTC's own app and functions.
and the software runs really smoothly on the hardware. All my android device in the past has suffered some degree of sluggish performance and glitches when running app (like occasional pause and etc.), particularly when compare to iPhone. But DesireHD is in a different class, its just really really smooth.
very impressive.

I ask the same question .. and I think I'll stay on WM for a while yet. I only have HD2 for a year, it's still in top shape. It does all I need it for, I invested some money into software, and if I want to play with android, I can just reboot. And DHD roms will soon get ported to HD2 I believe.
So I will wait till some problem shows up (like battery condition for example). There are some other cool android devices expected in summer next year, so let's see.
I must fight the urge to buy every cool phone which is just released

Ive posted some videos of comparison between both

[Q] Desire HD Fast Boot

Hi at all.
I was impressed by the "Fast Boot" of Desire HD of a friend and I wondered if you can have them on our hd2.
I found these videos on youtube:
HTC Desire HD - Fast boot
The next two are amazing:
HTC Desire HD fast boot
Fastboot HTC Desire HD vs Iphone4
Thanks...

not the actuall fast boot im affraid but there are a fair few roms wich have the advanced power menu so you can put your phone hibernate and it should boot up faster

TheiPhoneKiller said:
not the actuall fast boot im affraid but there are a fair few roms wich have the advanced power menu so you can put your phone hibernate and it should boot up faster
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thank you very much..but it isn't the same thing.

fast boot inn desire hd is the hibernate , it is confirmed and it is planned to be implemented in cotulla maglder next release , see change log

hoss_n2 said:
fast boot inn desire hd is the hibernate , it is confirmed and it is planned to be implemented in cotulla maglder next release , see change log
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I'm sorry but I didn't knew that the fast boot in desire hd is related to the hibernation.

It already exists but it's for more experienced users. I asked the question before, just check my threads.

HTC Fast Boot not working any more

Hi everybody.
A few weeks ago, I finally upgraded from my rooted G1 to a stock Desire Z and I'm really happy about it. I want to wait for the announced official gingerbread by HTC and then decide wether to root or not. Performance is great so far and with no storage problem whatsoever, I don't really miss having root access for now.
I really liked the fast boot technology HTC implemented and have been using it a lot to turn off the device when having meetings and such.
Just recently, it stopped working though. Every boot takes just as long as it would have taken choosing the reboot option before.
I got an update to sense version 1.82.405.1 not long ago and I'm not sure if it has anything to do with that.
Anyone experienced the same? Any tips or comments?
Thanks!

You haven't inadvertently turned off the feature, have you? Its under Settings > Applications > Fast boot.

Haha!
Actually, I was browsing the settings for anything related to my issue. Didn't find anything and never expected it to be under "applications".
My bad, and finally, I can't remember changing it. Could it be, that the standard setting of the new software version changed it to false?
Anyway, thanks four the help and not trolling at me. ;-)

Your welcome. Be sure to click the "Thanks" button on my post!
No idea if the update affected the fastboot setting.

I do not seem to have this option in my Settings/Applications menu. If I am to understand this correctly this lets you basically reboot way faster then the typical reboot command correct? I am running a G2 with Cyanogenmod 7 RC2.

I don't see this either on a stock G2. I am wondering if it is just a Desire Z thing.

Terrier Hockey said:
I don't see this either on a stock G2. I am wondering if it is just a Desire Z thing.
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It's a Sense UI thing (DZ was the first to incorporate it I believe)

omarsalmin said:
It's a Sense UI thing (DZ was the first to incorporate it I believe)
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Thanks now I know why its not in CM 7 lol!

jonm said:
I do not seem to have this option in my Settings/Applications menu. If I am to understand this correctly this lets you basically reboot way faster then the typical reboot command correct? I am running a G2 with Cyanogenmod 7 RC2.
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Yep, it's very similar to having your notebook in sleep mode. I think they dump the whole memory on the phone's flash. So if you start up, it literally takes 3 seconds before you can enter your pin and are ready to go.
I like it because the only reason of not turning off the device before, was that you'd have to wait about a minute to get going again whilst having lost the webpages you had currently opened plus the state of winamp/maps/etc.
I never use the airplane mode in meetings any more. If I can't use the phone anyway, why not turn it off and save battery life?

omarsalmin said:
It's a Sense UI thing (DZ was the first to incorporate it I believe)
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Exactly. It was a feature introduced with the "new" Sense 2.2 UI on the Desire Z and the Desire HD.
I liked the feature when I was still on the stock DZ ROM, since I travel by air quite a bit, almost always with connecting flights. So I am constantly turning my phone on and off. Too bad CM doesn't have something similar.

Sure would be nice if its in Cyanogen. So many other features. I say a few of us just send a request, like start a thread over there.

Hmm works for me.
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Basic Information About HTC HD2

I am going to buy HTC HD2 or HTC Desire HD.
1)From what I know hd2 was made to work with Windows Mobile but supports Android, I wanted to know if the HD2 will run Android smoothly without problems & bugs? Android Market works?
2)The HD2's touch is smooth while running Android? or it has delays?
3) How the Desire HD is different from the HD2? I know the camera is better in desire hd and also the RAM is a bit higher, but what else
4)HD2 works perfectly with Android 2.3 Gingerbread?
5)The phone memory in the HD2 is lower than the Desire HD, wanted to know if it's making a big difference.
6)Desire HD run games/Apps faster than HD2?
That's all for now, thanks for helper

koloko12 said:
I am going to buy HTC HD2 or HTC Desire HD.
1)From what I know hd2 was made to work with Windows Mobile but supports Android, I wanted to know if the HD2 will run Android smoothly without problems & bugs? Android Market works?
2)The HD2's touch is smooth while running Android? or it has delays?
3) How the Desire HD is different from the HD2? I know the camera is better in desire hd and also the RAM is a bit higher, but what else
4)HD2 works perfectly with Android 2.3 Gingerbread?
5)The phone memory in the HD2 is lower than the Desire HD, wanted to know if it's making a big difference.
6)Desire HD run games/Apps faster than HD2?
That's all for now, thanks for helper
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1)HD2 runs android smoothly imho... android 4.0 may have a few problems but thats like every other device
2)im running sense 3.5 which is gingerbread and the touch screen is very responsive no delay
3)dont know anything about the desire but i know that the roms for desire get ported to hd2 so we get there roms anyway
4)as i said earlier gingerbread sense 3.5 is great (using the ENERGY rom)
5) i dont thik the less memory makes a difference i have installed a fair few apps and still have room to spare
6)app/game speed differs between devices some may be faster on hd2 than desire you never know... i find the apps are quite fast
hope this helps

Thanks MkBy for the fast response, here are some more things I would Like to know
1)What you suggest to buy?
2)Which one is cheaper?
3)I might buy one of them from someone (not new from shop), what should I check to make sure the phone is working well and without problems?

koloko12 said:
Thanks MkBy for the fast response, here are some more things I would Like to know
1)What you suggest to buy?
2)Which one is cheaper?
3)I might buy one of them from someone (not new from shop), what should I check to make sure the phone is working well and without problems?
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I haven't used the DHD too much so I can't say which is better but 0my HD2 on CM7 appeared to keep up in performance in terms of scrolling, web browsing, opening apps etc. (i.e. not benchmarks) with my friend's DHD on CM7, and I would guess the HD2 is cheaper but the HD2 is absolutely terrible for playing HD games or games involving multitouch. In order for HD games to run smoothly you have to sacrifice either speed or graphics, and the HD2's screen only supports 2 points which is a massive let down for me. As much as I love the HD2, if it were up to me and both were around the same price I would go for the DHD, even if it is a slight bit more expensive

Nigeldg said:
the HD2's screen only supports 2 points which is a massive let down for me
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You mean that if I will try touch the screen on HD2 with three fingers it will detect only two of them?

koloko12 said:
You mean that if I will try touch the screen on HD2 with three fingers it will detect only two of them?
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Yes, unfortunately It does that very poorly as well, I can't describe it but sometimes it appears to lock the two points together if they are on the same line if you know what I mean, it's quite difficult to describe.

Let's compare the Touch screen to SE Xperia's touch screen, I know that in Xperia you can work with 2 fingers and even more, HD2 can work with 2 fingers like Xperia does? I mean same quality of touch

koloko12 said:
Let's compare the Touch screen to SE Xperia's touch screen, I know that in Xperia you can work with 2 fingers and even more, HD2 can work with 2 fingers like Xperia does? I mean same quality of touch
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1 Finger flawless
2 Fingers decent
3+ Fingers doesn't work
NONE OF THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE INNUENDO

As I said before, I might buy one of them from someone (not new from shop), what should I check to make sure the phone is working well and without problems?

I have an HD2 and am currently running the Energy ROM with sense 3.5 and Gingerbread. The screen is extremely responsive and over all the phone works great. I would recommend getting the HD2. It is one of the best phone out there as far as specs go and it isn't that expensive anymore.

If you want to buy a second-hand HD2, I would like to suggest you to check:
1. 3G data connection (refer to This)
2. Button response
3. Camera flashlight
4. Record video for 5 mins
5. earphone jack and some MP3
6. blue tooth file transfer
7. speaker
8. GPS in some navigation apps
9. Wifi of course
10.Ninja fruit for multi-touch test
Better bring a TF card with files or pics you want to test.
Since my HD2 has data connection freeze issue, I suggest you to buy a whole new handset like ONE X (if you like htc), with warranty. All these unsolved problems on HD2 are driving me crazy.

I'm running hd2 with ics tytung v1.5 with little to no known problems other than music app fc'ing. Their is a touch issue, namely screen lag, but I only notice it when playing games at a fast pace. Hd2's seem to regarded as highly adaptable as well. Not sure about dhd.
Sent from my NexusHD2 using xda premium

Nigeldg said:
1 Finger flawless
2 Fingers decent
3+ Fingers doesn't work
NONE OF THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE INNUENDO
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LOLOL

I think if you need faster device, Desire HD is choice (i see from the specifiaction..), but if you need monster device, HD2 is choice,,,,
It can running a lot of OS,,,

dooshbag45 said:
I'm running hd2 with ics tytung v1.5 with little to no known problems other than music app fc'ing. Their is a touch issue, namely screen lag, but I only notice it when playing games at a fast pace. Hd2's seem to regarded as highly adaptable as well. Not sure about dhd.
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Hi dooshbag45, I am thinking of changing my gingerbread rom to ICS. My current rom keeps rebooting when I am using headphone to listen to music. If i use loudspeaker it does not reboot. I have even had to think twice buying a beats audio headphone because of this problem. Does the ICS rom that you're using only fc or rebooting also? Is it only when you're using the default music app or also with third party app? Mine even reboots when i am using winamp.

hd2 pros
Many OS available (android, wp7, Ubuntu, etc)
Great screen (for devices age)
EASILY nodded
Cons
Touchscreen issues - using more than one finger recognition, failing digitizer (design flaw)
Data drop (happens to some, a simple disconnect/reconnect solves)
1 rear 5mp cam
Specs are showing their age but still hang with the best of em!!!
I've had a hands on with a friends DHD so the below is based on a QUICK hands on
DHD pros
Native android
Slight advantage on HD2 (hardware specs)
Cons
Smaller screen
You want android ... You're stuck with it!

Cons
Smaller screen
You want android ... You're stuck with it!
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Incorrect. The Desire HD has a screen of 4.3", which is as large as the HD2.

Hi
I've used both. And both are great devices too. The only drawback for both of em are lack of front cam. But IMHO go for a newer model. Like sensation and EVO 3d. You may get it cheaper also.
But the final decision be yours.
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