So I just got the droid 2 (had the droid 1). I bought this new phone and obviously wanted to root it like my old phone. See the ROMs that people have made, etc. I got root access and used root explorer to delete some system stuff (bloatware, etc.) and restarted and did that again (proving I had perm root). I flashed, or so I thought, the new recovery using rom manager and restarted holding x. Yeah... stock recovery. WTF? Am I missing something? Is my root broken? Bueller?!
Ou have to use droid 2 bootstrap
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so then how do you install a custom rom? everytime i try the update.zip method i get stuck in bootloops. if clockworkmod cant get into recovery then it cant do the update by its method (the easy method).
Ok, so I'm not sure what exactly is going on. Your stuck in a bootloop?
If so, then use the SBF to get back to factory stock. Follow the directions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770224
The link to the SBF there is broken i believe, but you can find it here:
hxxp://www.droid-life.com/2010/11/01/droid-2-sbf-released-for-2-3-20-update/ (replace xx with tt obviously)
Then reroot and instead of using ROM manager, just get Koush's bootstrap recovery to get to clockworkmod recovery. Once the apk is installed, hit bootstrap recovery, give su access, and then once it says successful, hit reboot recovery.
Be sure your ROM is on your sdcard.
Before you flash the ROM, you need to mount /data and /system. You also need to wipe data and cache (be sure you remount /data and /system after this)
Then go to install zip from sdcard. Then hit choose zip from sdcard. Find your ROM and flash away. Hope this helps
Forget what you know about the D1. The D2 is an entirely different device. Read the installs to roms don't just flash because you think you know how to do it. You can't use ROM manager without koush's bootstrap first. I've never had ROM manager ever because koush's bootstrap does everything you need to flash ROMs and what not on the D2 because moto locked it's bootloader.
Clockwork from the bootstrap won't take out stock recovery we can only access it after the phone boots a little then we can hijack the boot and get into clockwork.
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Will the bootloader ever be unlocked? I like being able to access nandroid without booting the phone. It gives me a sense of security. Damn moto for doing this. Why dont they allow rom hacking? Do they fear security issues or hidden exploits? ITS FREAKIN CREATIVITY. and its spawns new developers...
Well someone commented on a Motorola YouTube video about the locked bootloader, and Motorola told them if they want to load roms and the like to buy a different brand phone. Then Moto came out with an official statement saying they were sorry for the comment and that they will be looking into more dev friendly bootloaders in the future. I doubt the D2 will ever see this though. I'll bet it will only effect new phones.
Oh thats what that whole scandal was about. I heard about that. And the motorola spokesperson answered something like "buy a different phone cuz rooting isnt for this one". Could motorola possibly change the bootloader OTA? I would like them to...
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Oh thats what that whole scandal was about. I heard about that. And the motorola spokesperson answered something like "buy a different phone cuz rooting isnt for this one". Could motorola possibly change the bootloader OTA? I would like them to...
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I'm not sure if they could, but I doubt they would
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Why is that? I mean a bootloader can't be that difficult to create. Especially if the idea is to make it more simple. On the other hand, does anyone think devolopers will unlock the bootloader?
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The bootloader will never be cracked. Period. And motorola may change it on future devices but its not gunna change on the x or 2. Like motorola said if you want to root and install roms get a different device.
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Now are you just being pessimistic or realistic? Why would it never be cracked? People probably thought that about nand lock at first...
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The bootloader will never be cracked. Period. And motorola may change it on future devices but its not gunna change on the x or 2. Like motorola said if you want to root and install roms get a different device.
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Well they got that part wrong. We can root and flash roms. Just can't do anything with kernels and the like.... truely sad to hold this device back like that...
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So in response I will rephrase my question. If we have come this far. Would you say that the Droid 2 is a project in progress or that developers have gone as far as they can.
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So in response I will rephrase my question. If we have come this far. Would you say that the Droid 2 is a project in progress or that developers have gone as far as they can.
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Well I'm not dev and have limited knowledge, but I would say there isn't too much more they can do besides refine their awesome ROMs. Hopefully in future devices, Motorola will give us a way to unlock the bootloader, or they could be loosing big business.
I think I might email fabulous or some other 2/X dev. I really would like to know if its just a software lock that hasn't been... well unlocked. Or something is actually virtually impossible to change. I really don't wanna switch services to get a nice slider android with a decent cpu.
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I think I might email fabulous or some other 2/X dev. I really would like to know if its just a software lock that hasn't been... well unlocked. Or something is actually virtually impossible to change. I really don't wanna switch services to get a nice slider android with a decent cpu.
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Motorola has actually put a chip called the "efuse" inside the phones that locks down the bootloader. They may be able to disable it through a firmware update, but I'm not sure.
Thanks for pointing me to efuse. That seems really annoying... I don't really see the benefit in using a chip like that. Outside of intentionally preventing unauthorized roms. How unfortunate...
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They probably do it to prevent idiots from attempting to mess with the phone's entrails (if you will) and then howling when they mess something up and demanding a free replacement phone.
true that. I would probably cry too if I didn't know how to sbf. I don't even see how its possible to "brick" a phone unless you're a dev that's actually creating something new. Its hard to hose your /system. This stupid locked bootloader does make it a bit more heartbreaking when you get a bootloop. I hate praying for the recovery after a battery pull... why can't I just hit "x"! :'(
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I am thinking about getting a Droid X this afternoon. With the OTA update is it rootable and if so with what? Thank!
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I am thinking about getting a Droid X this afternoon. With the OTA update is it rootable and if so with what? Thank!
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Not the OTA. You will need to sbf back to froyo and then upgrade to the pre rooted GB
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Not the OTA. You will need to sbf back to froyo and then upgrade to the pre rooted GB
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I went ahead and got it. It has 2.3.3 on it, Will Gingerbreak work on that? Thanks!
floridatank said:
I went ahead and got it. It has 2.3.3 on it, Will Gingerbreak work on that? Thanks!
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Nope! Like I said its unrootable
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Unrootable...
But that doesn't mean you can't root.
SBF to froyo.
Flash the 2-part gingerbread .zips.
Flash a custom rom (Liberty?)
Or stay on the froyo kernel...
and try MIUI or Cyanogen.
Be careful and read as much as you possibly can before starting. Myself and at least one other on here with the latest iteration of the X have ended up with boot looping or totally non-responsive devices.
I have started a thread with my findings. I am by no means an expert but I do have much experience with rooting devices going all the way back to the PPC6700.
Good luck.
getting stuck in a bootloop is part of the exploration process IMHO.
At least once per new ROM I'll flash something 'just to see what happens' and end up SBF'ing back. Just make backups between steps if you aren't sure about what will happen next.
it would be nice if one of the devs or people who work on rooting or someone in the know would at least comment if we are going to get a real root with the OTA
i mean im running froyo with CM7 but i sure would like the new firmwares for all the radios flashed and then be running CM7
so if someone could give us some kind of update at least saying no one is even remotely working on trying to gain root on 4.5.596 Official OTA or that yea we are working on it but it is a ***** and taken longer then we expected
that lil bit of info goes a long ways
thanks
I am not aware of any dev working on this ATM.
I don't think rooting 596 ota is critical 2nd unit has opened up alot of new doors and the attention has shifted. However I have flashed all of drew gardens latest and ran cm4dx until nightly 47. Now I'm daily MIUI and loving it, despite locked bootloader the cdma_shadow still has alot of options.
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to my understanding .596 has better battery life and signals are better for wifi and cellular (at least more stable and less drops)
i do not know if this is true but i have read/heard alot of ppl saying the battery life is better on .596
after all there is a .596 for some reason and its not a lil bump from 2.2.340 its pretty big
anyhow someone really needs to figure this out as the baseband has changed....i mean there is the pre-rooted rom .596 that works great so we know it can be done.
whats the big deal...let us have it
m16-maniac said:
anyhow someone really needs to figure this out as the baseband has changed....i mean there is the pre-rooted rom .596 that works great so we know it can be done.
whats the big deal...let us have it
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the big deal is that there isn't a readily found exploit for the ota, the pre-rooted was done with a diff. method (brute force? recompiled?) but the versions are the same regardless
no ones holding back a secret root method, there just isn't a dev interested in spending huge amounts of time to recreate what already exists
i think it would be interesting to create a batch script that sbf's a phone and installs the pre-rooted .596 but all hidden behind a random animation so the user doesn't see what's happening. if i call it a 'one click' root method lots of people who don't seem to want to take the readily available pre-rooted gb for whatever reason would likely be happy. yeah i understand that if it includes a sbf then data may get lost, but if i said in the instructions of my 'app' that it would happen and they should have backups, people would still likely use it
sorry, but i just don't understand why so many people who want root are seemingly against using the pre-rooted option, as most of them don't have the knowledge to find an exploit or a root method from scratch themselves, so they are still using the work of someone else...
<Disclaimer>I'm going out on a limb here with limited knowledge of the X. <End disclaimer>
From what I read and I don't remember where, the rooting of an X involves a 2nd init method by which it takes control of the initial init. I believe I read the original init isn't able to be exploited and this is the basis of some of the more complicated methods of rooting the X.
If someone knows more about this please correct me or chime in.
I had an Incredible prior. The rooting was more comprehensive and simple. I believe that is because the bootstrap and recovery were not as difficult to get into. That being said, personally, I may be going back to another HTC device if the folks light years smarter than me aren't interested in developing a root method like the other devices out there.
I unlocked my bootloader at one time. I then and to revert to stock GB. Now when I boot up i no longer have the "unlocked" show up on the screen. I somehow, lost my recovery so I am trying to load the CWM variant and I'm running into issues.
I just want to clarify that since I unlocked it at one point, it is and will always be unlocked, correct? I thought I had read that you can not revert to a locked state.
Thanks,
clipse
It is unlocked, but you will need to flash an unlocked ROM or reunlock it to avoid the problems you are having. I had the same thing happen to me before. Even though it is unlocked, the phone doesn't recognize it because of the ROM.
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Thank you. I am trying to reunlock it but I keep getting "oem unlock is not implemented". Can't flash an unlocked rom because I don't have recovery and thats the only way I have done it in the past.
clipse
Did you flash the stock 4.5.91 sbf or what?
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Always unlocked. I have no idea on your issue though. Even though it doesnt say unlocked your fuse is still blown.
I voided my warranty.
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Did you flash the stock 4.5.91 sbf or what?
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Yes I did.
I ended up finding the unlocker sbf files from the pudding thread. Flashed that and its all good. I am rocking alien for now.
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Yes I did.
I ended up finding the unlocker sbf files from the pudding thread. Flashed that and its all good. I am rocking alien for now.
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So you missed the warnings all over the place that say to NEVER flash SBFs once you've unlocked? Nice.
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So you missed the warnings all over the place that say to NEVER flash SBFs once you've unlocked? Nice.
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Lmao. Well, hopefully he flashed pudding like he implied and hes good.
I voided my warranty.
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So you missed the warnings all over the place that say to NEVER flash SBFs once you've unlocked? Nice.
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Always nice to see an ass.
I seen the warnings that say don't revert to froyo after unlocking. No warning about going back to stock GB. Read up more before you post.
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Always nice to see an ass.
I seen the warnings that say don't revert to froyo after unlocking. No warning about going back to stock GB. Read up more before you post.
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I wasn't referring to any thread in particular but there are several threads that suggest the use of SBFs should be stopped as they are often unpredictable.
You wouldn't know anything about that though because you didn't need to come in the forum to ask for help after you SBF'd your phone and it went bad, hm? Thought not.
Next time read the warnings. The disappearance of "UNLOCKED" is well documented.
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Always nice to see an ass.
I seen the warnings that say don't revert to froyo after unlocking. No warning about going back to stock GB. Read up more before you post.
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He wasnt the nicest about it, but dont use sbf anymore. You are risking HARD bricking your phone. Its always best to fastboot any kind of flash, especially radios, but you should be fine using a recovery to flash any compatible rom. Dont come asking what how do i unbrick my phone if you keep using sbf files.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
Ok. So I should explain, I had to go the sbf route last time because I was having severe issues with the phone app fcing. I tried every possible other option and looked into any other way. Going the stock gb sbf was my last resort. That was several weeks ago. I just now decided to try another rom which is where I was having issues. So, unless you know the whole story........... I think proper etiquette is if you don't have anything constructive to say the stfu.
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Welcome to XDA dude, everything you say can and will be used against you. Doesn't matter what you do or how you word responses, someone will use it as an opportunity to flame you so they can feel superior. Sux that people have to act this way.
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Here's the deal-E-O. Once you unlock and yer OTA updated to gingerbread, the only safe *and I say that with respect to the fact that it could still lead to something bad * .sbf to flash is the stock Gingerbread 2.3.4 . It may not be safe for EVERYONE, maybe it's a case by case basis, but I know for me I can flash that and it reverts me to stock with no unlock appearing at startup anymore. Also, the 1.97 radio .sbf seems fine to flash , atleast on my phone. Again, I'm not saying you SHOULD. Just adding information. Good luck all.
Can we please stop the flame wars?
This is part of the reason why some devs are leaving.
Remember XDA is about community and helping others...
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So if i was running blue cronic and having FC issues and wanted to revert back to stock as possible and used this "1FF-olympus-user-2.3.4-4.5.91-110625-release-keys-signed-ATT-US-GAS_NA_OLPSGBATTSPE_P011.sbf" through RSD lite. Have I screwed myself up? My phone is working just fine right now it just no longer says unlocked at boot up and I obviously dont have root access any longer.
I was about to flash this "ATT-2.3.4_Pudding_preroot.sbf" through RSD lite but I came across this thread doing a "search" lol
This is what I originally used to unlock/root my phone. Should I just go back to it and let it do the magic again?
Automatic bootloader UNLOCK/ROOT for AT&T 1.26/1.57/1.83/4.5.91 [UPDATE 07/31/11
UPDATE:Used the automatic script and everything is the way I want it. Stock look and blur but unlocked and rooted. Working just fine with no FCs
clipse94 said:
Ok. So I should explain, I had to go the sbf route last time because I was having severe issues with the phone app fcing. I tried every possible other option and looked into any other way. Going the stock gb sbf was my last resort. That was several weeks ago. I just now decided to try another rom which is where I was having issues. So, unless you know the whole story........... I think proper etiquette is if you don't have anything constructive to say the stfu.
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No.
You did not have to go the "SBF route" after unlocking. Fastboot bud, always.
Hi I'm new to the custom rom's and instead of searching through countless topics, mixing up instructions. I was wondering if I could get some directions.
Play is unrooted 2.3.3. I would like instructions on how to put a custom rom on the phone, and which custom rom would be recommended. Thanks in advance people.
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is your phone fastboot enabled? (does the notification light in the power button turn blue if you hold the search button and then connect the usb to computer?)
If you want a custom rom but dont want to search and read these forums, i give your phone a week before you brick it.
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If you want a custom rom but dont want to search and read these forums, i give your phone a week before you brick it.
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or we could help people within the comunity to understand what's out there, the risks involved and how to get around the problems that could arise? we all need things explaining to us once in a while.
Oh im sorry i see your point, it is always good to be helpful, i am trying to be helpful as well when i say you should search and read, i mean look at all the countless threads where people didnt want to read, theres like 3 help im bricked threads per page.
lol. i know what you mean. and i know it can be frustrating. it's just a shame that the play is so much more complicated than the x10 that i was previously on. it was all flashtool and update.zip stuff. practically unbrickable!! loved it. fastboot and adb complicate things, and i feel that some of the tutorials can be a little confusing to total noobs. so we need to be accomodating to their lack of knowledge (i hardly know anything, so i'm still quite noobish), but also, people need to accept their own actions and consequences. not sure what i'm getting at now, but things need to be simpler for people who want to start out
Actually the way of installation is exactly the same for any custom ROM in this phone.
1) unlock your bootloader, either for free if you bought a factory unlocked phone or for some cash sending Alejandrissimo a PM, which you have to use if your phone is branded and/or Sim locked. You only need to do this step once.
2) install a custom kernel. There are two: DoomLord's kernel and the Cyanogen Mod kernel. The latter allows you only to install CM7. Doom's allows you to install the others.
3) Enter in Clockwork Mod recovery and install the ROM you prefer as long as your kernel of choice supports it.
As to which ROM you should pick, I use CM7 because it's stable and fast. Visit those threads and see for yourself which is the one you like best.
my personal favorite (until cm7 became more usable, and also because i like dooms kernel) was zerojay's aptly named zerorom. it's a very clean and fast sony based rom full of optimizations and tweaks. i'm currently trying out the FXP028 release of cm7 to see if it's more to my liking than it was in previous releases.
Unfortunately locked to Rogers. Is there a free way of unlocking the bootloader and how?
Again I'm currently running 2.3.3 nonrooted. Had it rooted on 2. 3. 2. but ofcourse lost it with update.
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8ballhacker said:
Unfortunately locked to Rogers. Is there a free way of unlocking the bootloader and how?
Again I'm currently running 2.3.3 nonrooted. Had it rooted on 2. 3. 2. but ofcourse lost it with update.
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No there isnt.
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If you want root get wantonserver and flash na generic 2.3.2 root it with gingerbreak and then ota update to 2.3.3+
AndroHero said:
No there isnt.
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well, one free way could be if you could swap a branded phone to someone who doesnt care and has a generic model
solitarymonkey said:
well, one free way could be if you could swap a branded phone to someone who doesnt care and has a generic model
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True, but paying $20 dollars to get it unlocked sounds like less of a pain in the ass
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Bump, has anyone been able to get Cyanogen mod onto the Rogers r800a? This locked boot loader is really causing me grief. Have the phone rooted, cwr is installed as well as busy Box. Getting closer, but still no cigar.
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Bump, has anyone been able to get Cyanogen mod onto the Rogers r800a? This locked boot loader is really causing me grief. Have the phone rooted, cwr is installed as well as busy Box. Getting closer, but still no cigar.
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You can flash CM7, but i doubt it will boot with stock kernel.
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AndroHero said:
You can flash CM7, but i doubt it will boot with stock kernel.
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Just to confirm, without the proper Kernel I am more than likely to brick my play? Many Thanks!
mcorbeil said:
Just to confirm, without the proper Kernel I am more than likely to brick my play? Many Thanks!
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You won't brick it, if kernel is incompatible device with either not boot, or bootloop, flahing stock rom with flashtool will fix it though.
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Ok guys im making this thread to see who would like to see official CWM Rom manager support, not because I have the ability to do such a thing, it requires our rom and kernel devs.
You need unlocked bootloaderand also doomlords boot manager (to get cwm recovery). Also you need to download rom manager from the market. When choosing the recovery to flash you need to choose htc desire hd.
I was playing with cwm rom manager just now and backed up my rom (wb v6) in one click, phone rebooted and entered recovery and backed up then rebooted upon completion automatically. You can also download roms and google app packages ota from their server from the app. There's even a couple of premium features if you buy the full version.
I want to see some x10 roms up there from our amazing devs and to be able to make the most of this amazing tool.
Im making this thread for people to post their opinions to get devs attention not to give step by step instruction on to use any tools to get your phone bootloader unlocked or flashing boot manager.
Opinions only please.
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+1 ofc we would like to see our X10 fully supported
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ROM Manager will never support X10 in flashing recovery from the app. The reason is we can not flash kernels from the os/phone right now. You can select manual override and select a device.
But if remember correctly there was already a thread on this though.
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1260366
I know search in XDA app is not good
But what can be interesting and helpful is to get OTA updates. It will be great.
CWM Rom Manager support would be freakin' awesome!
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ROM Manager will never support X10 in flashing recovery from the app. The reason is we can not flash kernels from the os/phone right now. You can select manual override and select a device.
But if remember correctly there was already a thread on this though.
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1260366
I know search in XDA app is not good
But what can be interesting and helpful is to get OTA updates. It will be great.
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Ota would require a possible kernel flash too..
It would be extremely limited, not really any more useful than what is already in place
scoobysnacks said:
Ota would require a possible kernel flash too..
It would be extremely limited, not really any more useful than what is already in place
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I don't know if it would, I don't know if you tried using the app ever Scooby but it seems to download the rom to sd card and then installs using cwm which we have.
Does anyone know how come we cant yet flash ftf and sin files now bootloader is open? Mayne this I how doom bricked his x10 writing to nand directly but it all is kinda beyond me when we get to really technical stuff like this lol
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realunited123 said:
ROM Manager will never support X10 in flashing recovery from the app. The reason is we can not flash kernels from the os/phone right now. You can select manual override and select a device.
But if remember correctly there was already a thread on this though.
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1260366
I know search in XDA app is not good
But what can be interesting and helpful is to get OTA updates. It will be great.
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Ah I see, I missed that thread when I was on holiday and xda app search come up with nothing useful before I opened this thread.
Sorry Pilot, Mr Clown AMD other mods!
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I don't know if it would, I don't know if you tried using the app ever Scooby but it seems to download the rom to sd card and then installs using cwm which we have.
Does anyone know how come we cant yet flash ftf and sin files now bootloader is open? Mayne this I how doom bricked his x10 writing to nand directly but it all is kinda beyond me when we get to really technical stuff like this lol
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Yeah I've used it on my other phones..
As far as ota updates with no radio or kernel upgrade, that would work.
Like I said it would be limited though.
I don't know why x10 can't flash kernels, etc. since the unlocked bootloader. I think that would just require further development and a lot of devs have left
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Yeah I've used it on my other phones..
As far as ota updates with no radio or kernel upgrade, that would work.
Like I said it would be limited though.
I don't know why x10 can't flash kernels, etc. since the unlocked bootloader. I think that would just require further development and a lot of devs have left
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I think maybe we need zdzihu to come back to flash ftf and stuff. I think our bootloader is cracked but the flood gates aren't fully open if we can't write to where ever the radio stuff goes.
I guess we can only hope. Would love to be able to use all this stuff to its full potential and do away with the flashtool which is good but not very convenient if your on the go.
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U know SGS2 can flash anything like from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 from CWM recovery which includes the kernel upgrade and radio also...
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U know SGS2 can flash anything like from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 from CWM recovery which includes the kernel upgrade and radio also...
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Lol..
Yes 99% of phones with an unlocked bootloader can
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Lol..
Yes 99% of phones with an unlocked bootloader can
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But what is fast boot?IDK...
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But what is fast boot?IDK...
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Fastboot refers to procedure consisting of
phone part and user part (run on PC) which suits
to update the system over USB (ROM , SPL,
splash screen), mainly it 's used to flash recovery
or custom splashscreen. As long as you follow
the procedure, it 's safe to use it. You don' t
need to install it, it can be used on every
Android system (client part comes with Win SDK
and can be downloaded for Linux also).
With most phones you don't have to flash things this way though, you can boot into the bootloader and flash files manually from your sdcard, our into recovery for roms, etc...
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Fastboot refers to procedure consisting of
phone part and user part (run on PC) which suits
to update the system over USB (ROM , SPL,
splash screen), mainly it 's used to flash recovery
or custom splashscreen. As long as you follow
the procedure, it 's safe to use it. You don' t
need to install it, it can be used on every
Android system (client part comes with Win SDK
and can be downloaded for Linux also).
With most phones you don't have to flash things this way though, you can boot into the bootloader and flash files manually from your sdcard, our into recovery for roms, etc...
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I think i read that SE disabled fastboot on x10, im sure i read by azuzu it was disabled. The 2011 xperia range got life easy with sony willing do offer a service for this. why did they make the x10 such a problem child?
I guess though its fair to say they appear to be learning their lesson by offering bootloader unlock for 2011+ range, supporting devs, giving phones away, having proper multitouch, 16m colours and looking at bring out dual core phones.
Its too late for some as people moved on now but if you asked people if they reckoned SE would do all this in a couple of years tehy would turn round and say yeah right! IM glad i stuck it out and its been totally worth it to have my x10 how it is now and love it.
Im going off topic big style in my own thread lol
The Gingerbread Man said:
I think i read that SE disabled fastboot on x10, im sure i read by azuzu it was disabled. The 2011 xperia range got life easy with sony willing do offer a service for this. why did they make the x10 such a problem child?
I guess though its fair to say they appear to be learning their lesson by offering bootloader unlock for 2011+ range, supporting devs, giving phones away, having proper multitouch, 16m colours and looking at bring out dual core phones.
Its too late for some as people moved on now but if you asked people if they reckoned SE would do all this in a couple of years tehy would turn round and say yeah right! IM glad i stuck it out and its been totally worth it to have my x10 how it is now and love it.
Im going off topic big style in my own thread lol
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I'm not touching this topic I get flamed ever time I do lol
scoobysnacks said:
I'm not touching this topic I get flamed ever time I do lol
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lol
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HTC One Bootloader Unlocking Deletes Apps, Blocks Future Updates
HTC One owners looking to unlock the device's bootloader in order to install custom versions of Android are being warned that certain pre-installed applications are automatically wiped and future software updates blocked from the device.
According to testing by MoDaCo, unlocking the bootloader on HTC's latest top-end Android smartphone will wipe a special section of the data partition that contains four pre-installed applications: the Calculator, Flashlight, Ringtone Trimmer and Sound Recorder application. When the bootloader is unlocked - a step required for the installation of a third-party or otherwise modified operating system from a 'ROM' file - these applications are permanently wiped from the device and cannot be reinstalled.
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We seriously need to get some more information about this phone. So far, we don't even know which variants are going to be released to which regions.
This is nothing new. Unless you want to run a stock ROM with root, this is not a problem.
Umm....why WOULDN'T I want to run a stock ROM with root? I'm guessing a huge majority of average users would want this. With manufacturers draconian policies on how we can't use the devices we payed almost $1000 for they are driving us into the ever loving arms of $350 Nexi.
I was going to switch from the Galaxy S3 to HTC One, but i never knew you can't s-off. Might just get the S4 now
fazzxx said:
I was going to switch from the Galaxy S3 to HTC One, but i never knew you can't s-off. Might just get the S4 now
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HTC dev unlock unlocks the bootloader but you are still s on. With s on you can still flash roms via custom recovery and kernels via fastboot or flashgui app. Only thing is you can't flash radios. I'm positive s off is going to happen sooner than later.
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eg1122 said:
HTC dev unlock unlocks the bootloader but you are still s on. With s on you can still flash roms via custom recovery and kernels via fastboot or flashgui app. Only thing is you can't flash radios. I'm positive s off is going to happen sooner than later.
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Is that only HTC which need s off or do samsungs require that too?
I might hold of on purchasing the HTC One to see what sort of developer community emerges. How easy rooting becomes. Otherwise I waiting to see what Google/Motorola have to offer.
Don't want to stick with Samsung.
fazzxx said:
Is that only HTC which need s off or do samsungs require that too?
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It's only HTC
I think carbon app by koush is better option to backup apps. It doesn't require root.
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kopkiwi said:
I might hold of on purchasing the HTC One to see what sort of developer community emerges. How easy rooting becomes. Otherwise I waiting to see what Google/Motorola have to offer.
Don't want to stick with Samsung.
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I accidentally thanked you. Anyhow, rooting is easy, already done, actually, but is completely difernt than S-off. S-off is done at the radio level. Evo LTE got s-off achieved within a few months of release (before the one X ) there are always subgroups of geniuses working on S-off. And rarely do they fail to deliver. But root and S-off are a million miles apart. You can't root and install custom recovery using htcstool before S-off.
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Edit: somehow I combined your post with one asking about S-off. My apologies. Thank tullamore dew
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I accidentally thanked you. Anyhow, rooting is easy, already done, actually, but is completely difernt than S-off. S-off is done at the radio level. Evo LTE got s-off achieved within a few months of release (before the one X ) there are always subgroups of geniuses working on S-off. And rarely do they fail to deliver. But root and S-off are a million miles apart. You can't root and install custom recovery using htcstool before S-off.
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Can you expand on that further?
I would want to root instantly and install Android HD