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Reason for the San Francisco 4G Delays

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2010/09/4g_wireless_internet_access_he.php
Damn residents of Bernal Heights are complaining about the placement of Clearwire's 4G antennas.

BOOOOO
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I live in Berkeley, and I know for a fact that tower wouldn't serve me. I have yet to hear anything about service in the East Bay. Anyone have a clue?
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that sucks! people there complain about anything even if its for their benefit! if they dont want it to be there, maybe clearwire should find another place to put their antennas on! i want my 4G here in sf...

Well I'm out in the flatlands of the East bay in Concord, and the closest 4G is the small downtown area of Nut Creek. Sprint, hook us up!!

This is frustrating as **** for those of us who have been waiting, and waiting for these assholes to get their **** together. Yeah, we know San Francisco has a crazy permit and building process - but this is ridiculous. What about San Mateo County? We're total 4G-less while Santa Clara County is almost all the way lit up.
Embarrassing.

clovis_ll said:
that sucks! people there complain about anything even if its for their benefit!
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Sound like South Florida.

Same **** here in arizona....bunch of damn nimby's

zikronix said:
Same **** here in arizona....bunch of damn nimby's
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Pretty much. NIMBYs always ***** about things.

How do they separate the men from the boys in SF?
A firehose

I can confirm there is 4G in parts of Fremont. Been using it for a few weeks now.

I'm on 4g right now! Turk and Taylor.
I've left my radio on to search since I got the phone, and only one phantom hit until today.
It's dropped a couple times now, but it keeps coming back. Almost an hour of 4g at this location.
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Not that impressed with the speed tests so far, but the upload is crazy fast...for a cell phone.
.5 Mbps down, 1.1Mbps up.
Not much better than the 3g, really.
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Alright...screw dolphin. Screenshotsuploaded via Opera mobile.
Who needs a computer? (alright...i borrowed one to get root, but I'm without, and happy now...)
There is sprint 4g service in San Francisco NOW!

Kalash said:
I'm on 4g right now! Turk and Taylor.
I've left my radio on to search since I got the phone, and only one phantom hit until today.
It's dropped a couple times now, but it keeps coming back. Almost an hour of 4g at this location.
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Not that impressed with the speed tests so far, but the upload is crazy fast...for a cell phone.
.5 Mbps down, 1.1Mbps up.
Not much better than the 3g, really.
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Very interesting.
I get my fastest 3G access around Grant and O'farrell. A bit over 2Mbits down.

Well...it seems to have gotten better. It's still access going about the same as the 3g... And tethering is SLOW. I'd say slower than with 3g, which is weird, but other people have reported the danger thing... I just looked.
So far, I'm not impressed. The icon looks cool, but I had better performance with 3g on average.
Maybe it's dialed down for testing before an official release?

My girlfriend said she got a 4G signal today in the FiDi, near 2nd and Mission. Think I might switch to a Sense ROM for a few days...

liquidkernel said:
Very interesting.
I get my fastest 3G access around Grant and O'farrell. A bit over 2Mbits down.
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I get 2.3Mbits down of 3G, here in balboa park when im outside my house but as soon as i go inside the house, its back to .7Mbits
i might turn my 4G on this time just to see.. i got a friend that works for clearwire and he says they're testing it here in SF..

I had 4g at divesidero and geary yesterday - 2.2 down, about one up.
Lost it when I drove a few blocks away...
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diomark said:
I had 4g at divesidero and geary yesterday - 2.2 down, about one up.
Lost it when I drove a few blocks away...
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That's pretty good! I am going to be driving there in a bit, might try it out.

What part of Fremont have you been getting 4G? I've been getting a signal in Union City but only during the day strangely.

4G Youngstown Ohio

Got a little 4G love in downtown Youngstown Ohio today for the first time. I attached a couple of images of the speed test results I got. Not the best speeds EVER but darn better then 3G. Thank You Sprint.

in Springfield here and i get nothing

Wow, didnt expect 2 ppl from NEO on here. Anyways, I dont think sprint cares much for anyone not in the three C's. I really thought we would get wimax here in akron when CLE went live.

Y-town? Nice. That's my hometown. Been in VA for about a year now though.

I tried in Campbell and got connected and got an IP. Signal quality was poor and I was only able to get 822kbps down. I couldn't even web browse because I was losing signal.
I got home on the south side and couldn't even connect to 4G.
Will we receive a text message from Sprint or any other indication when 4G is fully live here?

Went to YSU here, why the heck would sprint/clearwire waste money on 4g in Youngstown before Akron.

wildgillis said:
Went to YSU here, why the heck would sprint/clearwire waste money on 4g in Youngstown before Akron.
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Obviously, because it's the home of Al Bundy.
Actually we have a thriving tech hub downtown. Makes sense to me.

zone23 said:
Got a little 4G love in downtown Youngstown Ohio today for the first time. I attached a couple of images of the speed test results I got. Not the best speeds EVER but darn better then 3G. Thank You Sprint.
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Really!? Youngstown gets 4g before Akron?... Not cool sprint, not cool.

Seems most of us geeks are from Ohio.
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wildgillis said:
Went to YSU here, why the heck would sprint/clearwire waste money on 4g in Youngstown before Akron.
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I would hardly consider it "wasting money". How about because its between Cleveland and Pittsburgh and they probably want 4G between the two. Seems to make sense to me. I love how some people feel their city is more important than all the others. Akron is not that great sorry.

TMartin03 said:
Seems most of us geeks are from Ohio.
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It would seem that way. Must be the lousy weather.

skylar.sutton said:
Really!? Youngstown gets 4g before Akron?... Not cool sprint, not cool.
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Maybe that's why Lebron left! No 4G!

Good one except they have had 4G in Cleveland for a while now.
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zone23 said:
Akron is not that great sorry.
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Never said it was... but I will say this:
Akron (inc. Metro) Population: 700k
Y-Town (inc. Metro) Population: 100k
It seems pretty obvious which NEO area should be next in line for 4G

skylar.sutton said:
Never said it was... but I will say this:
Akron (inc. Metro) Population: 700k
Y-Town (inc. Metro) Population: 100k
It seems pretty obvious which NEO area should be next in line for 4G
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Don't feel bad, SE Michigan towers over any other part of michigan with half the states entire population @ ~5 million people. No 4g love for us , and sprint just turned on 4g in flint, which is the most broke ass city in the state.
I am going to have to take a trip down to toledo to scope out their new 4g. At least you lucky bastards have like what 5 or 6 major cities covered

skylar.sutton said:
Never said it was... but I will say this:
Akron (inc. Metro) Population: 700k
Y-Town (inc. Metro) Population: 100k
It seems pretty obvious which NEO area should be next in line for 4G
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If I had my way I would turn on the whole state. I don't get it at my house so I would have to go down to the University to use it. We are renovating a plaza downtown so I might get to use it.

zone23 said:
I would hardly consider it "wasting money". How about because its between Cleveland and Pittsburgh and they probably want 4G between the two. Seems to make sense to me. I love how some people feel their city is more important than all the others. Akron is not that great sorry.
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I dont even live in Akron I live in Cleveland and could care less about either city.
From a business standpoint I wonder why Youngstown would get 4g before Akron. I lived in Youngstown for 4 years for college I'm not trying to trash it. If they were actually going to add 4g all the way along the turnpike I would understand that but considering clear is teetering on bankruptcy I don't figure they have the money for that. And as someone else pointed out Akron has a significantly larger population and likely a similar area to cover although I haven't looked that up.

zone23 said:
If I had my way I would turn on the whole state. I don't get it at my house so I would have to go down to the University to use it. We are renovating a plaza downtown so I might get to use it.
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Whole state sounds good to me but isn't happening anytime soon.

Honestly I see most metro areas of the state getting it soon. I am in Springfield which is in between Columbus & Dayton. Dayton doesn't have it yet, but Columbus does. I hope they build towers west instead of going straight to Dayton. They will probably have Dayton go live and then fill in between. I could never expect my dying city to get 4g before Dayton. Maybe Sprints big announcement is going to be live 4g everywhere. A lot of places have been popping up lately & a lot of them are smaller too.
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They should hit all of the cities around universities first -- the younger generation are the ones using the data the most and thus the ones that need it.
Next up should be: Akron and Kent.

Holy data ..... went bye bye

No idea what happened but it seems Springfield,Ohio and some surrounding areas was down too .
from my phone duh

Working all day so far in the Lancaster area.
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only 8 more posts like this one & you'll be at 1000.. w00t w00t
j/k cheesy, but foreal? lolol

LOL no idea what happened even my wifes blackberry was down
from my phone duh

sounds like one of those things... wait... oh ya a service outage **** happens

my service has been sporadic for me in the Philadelphia area

def sporadic here in jersey... upload higher then download and just jumpy...

I'm in chicago and currently downloading at 6.5gbps on 3g.

right ouside of philadelphia 300kb down on 3g and no 4g's down both upload speeds are fine though...

Yeah its been a problem since that last snow storm. So it should go back up

Mine wasnt working in eaton a while ago, but its working now

_MetalHead_ said:
I'm in chicago and currently downloading at 6.5gbps on 3g.
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I am also on chicago and I call shenanigans,
SHENANIGANS I SAY.
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I finally got a speed testing app and it's fun to use and all...but, being the n00b that I am, I have no idea what I should be downloading at and uploading at. Can someone give me an example of decent speeds in kbps?

grungbuk said:
I am also on chicago and I call shenanigans,
SHENANIGANS I SAY.
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Well I am running an experimental super quantum kernel that allows me to download at those speeds. The mechanics behind it are top secret so I can't really say anything else.

4G in Kalamazoo, MI

My wife just turned her evo's 4g on and it connected! only 1 bar inside my house but hey. Just googled it and it says western michigan university just had it turned on on the 10th.

thmgombosi said:
My wife just turned her evo's 4g on and it connected! only 1 bar inside my house but hey. Just googled it and it says western michigan university just had it turned on on the 10th.
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That marks 3 cities that have 4g before Detroit.
Sounds about right though, I wouldn't waste my time putting 4g in Detroit and I've lived in the suburbs all my life.

issafram said:
Silly xxxxx, Detroit already has 4G.
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Your named calling not-withstanding, you're right, it apparently does.
But not anywhere near me.
Actually that's hilarious....the coverage is in the poor areas.
Hamtramck, Detroit, Eastpointe, East Dearborn....oh and don't forget part of Windsor....

I dont think portage has it yet, I'll check downtown later. What area of kalamazoo are you in?

Good to hear about Kzoo. Detroit does not "officially" have 4g either. It works around Wayne State University, and that is about it. They seem to be testing it around the city, but it is far from consistent.
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mattykinsx said:
Your named calling not-withstanding, you're right, it apparently does.
But not anywhere near me.
Actually that's hilarious....the coverage is in the poor areas.
Hamtramck, Detroit, Eastpointe, East Dearborn....oh and don't forget part of Windsor....
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Detroit is Detroit, poor or not poor. I'm gonna need you to show some respect for the hard working people that lives there. I'll admit it's a few bad areas, but which city doesn't have crime?

Spiderman313 said:
Detroit is Detroit, poor or not poor. I'm gonna need you to show some respect for the hard working people that lives there. I'll admit it's a few bad areas, but which city doesn't have crime?
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When people say Detroit they are generally speaking of the suburbs.
Since no one practically lives in the city anymore.
As far as your crime comment please point me in the direction of the part of my post that talked about crime.
Here was the point of my post :
It is a FACT that most of the city of Detroit is empty.
People have moved to the burbs and that's all there is to it.
Windsor isn't even in the U.S. and the other cities I mentioned aren't any better off than Detroit ...so why waste your time and START in an empty area??

O.O
Seriously?? I live about 20m from Kzoo i'm gonna have to go check this out.

mattykinsx said:
When people say Detroit they are generally speaking of the suburbs.
Since no one practically lives in the city anymore.
As far as your crime comment please point me in the direction of the part of my post that talked about crime.
Here was the point of my post :
It is a FACT that most of the city of Detroit is empty.
People have moved to the burbs and that's all there is to it.
Windsor isn't even in the U.S. and the other cities I mentioned aren't any better off than Detroit ...so why waste your time and START in an empty area??
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Well tell that to the 715,000 people who still live there.

Spiderman313 said:
Well tell that to the 715,000 people who still live there.
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A number that is likely still an overestimate, a good majority of those people likely don't even have cell phones.
I can't find any kind of breakdown unfortunately though.
At any rate, the point is this, they are rolling it out in areas that are largely empty.
There's been estimates that 40% of Detroit's city limits are empty for god sake.

mattykinsx said:
A number that is likely still an overestimate, a good majority of those people likely don't even have cell phones.
I can't find any kind of breakdown unfortunately though.
At any rate, the point is this, they are rolling it out in areas that are largely empty.
There's been estimates that 40% of Detroit's city limits are empty for god sake.
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It seems you have a problem with Detroit. I find that hard to believe that Detroit is "empty" as you say. All I on a positive not is that I'm glad Detroit and other cities in Michigan are getting 4G.

Spiderman313 said:
It seems you have a problem with Detroit. I find that hard to believe that Detroit is "empty" as you say. All I on a positive not is that I'm glad Detroit and other cities in Michigan are getting 4G.
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Why would anyone have a positive thing to say about that city?
And if you don't believe me look it up.
They've talked about it on the news a bunch.

I'm in the city all day, every day. Seriously, it is like a 3rd world country in my opinion. There is maybe a square mile or two of pretty nice stuff.
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So I did some digging WMU actually had it up and running since mid March. I live in the Oakwood neighborhood and its spotty in my house. But outside I get good coverage.
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thmgombosi said:
So I did some digging WMU actually had it up and running since mid March. I live in the Oakwood neighborhood and its spotty in my house. But outside I get good coverage.
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What are your speeds looking like?

Toledo please hurry up and get 4g
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Rob the plumber said:
I'm in the city all day, every day. Seriously, it is like a 3rd world country in my opinion. There is maybe a square mile or two of pretty nice stuff.
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mattykinsx said:
Why would anyone have a positive thing to say about that city?
And if you don't believe me look it up.
They've talked about it on the news a bunch.
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Its sad to see people think this way. I'll take it you both are Caucasians?

Spiderman313 said:
Its sad to see people think this way. I'll take it you both are Caucasians?
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Please do not bring race into this.
This has nothing to do with race.
All I'm saying is...why bother STARTING in an area that's generally vacant?
Seems to me, especially in Sprint's position, they want to service as many PEOPLE as possible, not just area.

If you have a problem with detroit then maybe you should move so that you don't have to live next to us. As far as the empty land goes we're starting a reverse annexing plan. Soon those empty areas will be a part of oakland and macomb countries.
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no 4g in wyoming, mi where i am. closest i get it is in downtown grand rapids.

Coachella valley how slow 3G speeds you gives 4G

Sprint is running currently all of the data traffic on a extremely small amount of servers. This means that everyone that is trying to use the internet on their cellphones on sprint is running on the same highway. So speeds are going to be really slow. What does this mean for us? Sprint is upgrading and testing new 4G towers and servers. This is an internal data BTW. Places like the top of LQ Cove have weak 4G signal and places like the Costco JackntheBox area have strong out door signal. North indio as well as the K-mart area in indio have weak 4G. So switch over to 4G in those areas and test it. Please comment bellow if you have found places with 4G signal in the Coachella Valley. What a coincidence that we are starting to get 4G since before Coachella fest.

What??????

How cool a fellow xda'er in the valley
I live in palm springs and some days get nice speeds and other days... not so nice. Lol. I hope they're gonna bring in 4G soon valleywide! I'm dreaming, but hey...
I figured slow speed was due to them testing the network.

Mark_in_Tulsa said:
What??????
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I think he said something about the Nexus and how Cyanogen is an overhyped rom?

josh995 said:
How cool a fellow xda'er in the valley
I live in palm springs and some days get nice speeds and other days... not so nice. Lol. I hope they're gonna bring in 4G soon valleywide! I'm dreaming, but hey...
I figured slow speed was due to them testing the network.
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oh wow how nice i thought i was the only one in the valley
apparently parts of palms springs and cat city around the 111 area have had 4G since the evo came out

DirtyShroomz said:
I think he said something about the Nexus and how Cyanogen is an overhyped rom?
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yeah thats totally what i meant to say lol

I thought I was the only one too lol
But yeah I used to check all the time for 4G in different parts of the valley but got tired of being disappointed so I quit looking lol... I think I'll start looking again since it's been a while
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yeah please do i usually have 4g on my phone on constantly but i switched to VR GengerSense rom with no 4G so i cant use it lol which means im stuck at 1X speeds till the tower at indio is back up and running
i was at LQ cove yesterday hiking towards cahuilla and i had the kingdom rom on my evo wich had 4G and i got full archs which was weird lol

Currently in Cathedral City, next to Date Palm, I am getting a fair signal and hitting speeds averaging 125 kB/s down and 15 kB/s up.