Reason for the San Francisco 4G Delays - EVO 4G General

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2010/09/4g_wireless_internet_access_he.php
Damn residents of Bernal Heights are complaining about the placement of Clearwire's 4G antennas.

BOOOOO
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I live in Berkeley, and I know for a fact that tower wouldn't serve me. I have yet to hear anything about service in the East Bay. Anyone have a clue?
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that sucks! people there complain about anything even if its for their benefit! if they dont want it to be there, maybe clearwire should find another place to put their antennas on! i want my 4G here in sf...

Well I'm out in the flatlands of the East bay in Concord, and the closest 4G is the small downtown area of Nut Creek. Sprint, hook us up!!

This is frustrating as **** for those of us who have been waiting, and waiting for these assholes to get their **** together. Yeah, we know San Francisco has a crazy permit and building process - but this is ridiculous. What about San Mateo County? We're total 4G-less while Santa Clara County is almost all the way lit up.
Embarrassing.

clovis_ll said:
that sucks! people there complain about anything even if its for their benefit!
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Sound like South Florida.

Same **** here in arizona....bunch of damn nimby's

zikronix said:
Same **** here in arizona....bunch of damn nimby's
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Pretty much. NIMBYs always ***** about things.

How do they separate the men from the boys in SF?
A firehose

I can confirm there is 4G in parts of Fremont. Been using it for a few weeks now.

I'm on 4g right now! Turk and Taylor.
I've left my radio on to search since I got the phone, and only one phantom hit until today.
It's dropped a couple times now, but it keeps coming back. Almost an hour of 4g at this location.
Edit...
Not that impressed with the speed tests so far, but the upload is crazy fast...for a cell phone.
.5 Mbps down, 1.1Mbps up.
Not much better than the 3g, really.
Screen shots taken...now, to get Dolphin to let me attach them...

Alright...screw dolphin. Screenshotsuploaded via Opera mobile.
Who needs a computer? (alright...i borrowed one to get root, but I'm without, and happy now...)
There is sprint 4g service in San Francisco NOW!

Kalash said:
I'm on 4g right now! Turk and Taylor.
I've left my radio on to search since I got the phone, and only one phantom hit until today.
It's dropped a couple times now, but it keeps coming back. Almost an hour of 4g at this location.
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Not that impressed with the speed tests so far, but the upload is crazy fast...for a cell phone.
.5 Mbps down, 1.1Mbps up.
Not much better than the 3g, really.
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Very interesting.
I get my fastest 3G access around Grant and O'farrell. A bit over 2Mbits down.

Well...it seems to have gotten better. It's still access going about the same as the 3g... And tethering is SLOW. I'd say slower than with 3g, which is weird, but other people have reported the danger thing... I just looked.
So far, I'm not impressed. The icon looks cool, but I had better performance with 3g on average.
Maybe it's dialed down for testing before an official release?

My girlfriend said she got a 4G signal today in the FiDi, near 2nd and Mission. Think I might switch to a Sense ROM for a few days...

liquidkernel said:
Very interesting.
I get my fastest 3G access around Grant and O'farrell. A bit over 2Mbits down.
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I get 2.3Mbits down of 3G, here in balboa park when im outside my house but as soon as i go inside the house, its back to .7Mbits
i might turn my 4G on this time just to see.. i got a friend that works for clearwire and he says they're testing it here in SF..

I had 4g at divesidero and geary yesterday - 2.2 down, about one up.
Lost it when I drove a few blocks away...
-mark

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I had 4g at divesidero and geary yesterday - 2.2 down, about one up.
Lost it when I drove a few blocks away...
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That's pretty good! I am going to be driving there in a bit, might try it out.

What part of Fremont have you been getting 4G? I've been getting a signal in Union City but only during the day strangely.

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Sprint WiMax 4G Live in St. Louis 05/27/2010!!

Just for fun I thought I'd try out the 4G radio on the EVO while here in St. Louis.
Turns out, it's live!!
Here are some screen shots to prove it!
Had to resize images to fit upload requirements here.
Check out the originals at my Flickr page:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/colorado_al/4644983280/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/colorado_al/4644980236/in/photostream/
Also see my other post at:
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g/86027-sprint-wimax-4g-live-st-louis-05-27-2010-a.html#post814544
2.1 mbs down?
if so im not impressed... at all
I'm on the edge of the city, and inside, and they haven't announced the launch yet, so who knows how fast it will go. I'll take a drive this afternoon and see if I can get a better signal.
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2.1 mbs down?
if so im not impressed... at all
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Here's another test to another server in Chicago 3.3mbps
dont get me wrong... its not bad...
but i have been able to get up to 2.5 down on sprints 3g in some places
Wow, that's awesome news! I live in St. Louis (Southwest Garden area) and I'm getting the Evo next week, but I was hoping I wouldn't have to wait too long before getting 4G. I figured it'd probably be later summer before I'd have it, but if your phone is correct, sounds like they've already started installing it. Hopefully it's just the beginning and the signal will continue to get better.
My only concern, I've read somewhere that some Radio Shacks are setting up WiMax hotspots. Maybe there's a Radio Shack nearby that you're getting the signal from? Just a thought, could be wrong. It'll be interesting to see what happens when you venture out in the city to see if you continue to get the 4G signal and if it improves or gets worse.
Thanks for the update! Please keep us posted!
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Wow, that's awesome news! I live in St. Louis (Southwest Garden area) and I'm getting the Evo next week, but I was hoping I wouldn't have to wait too long before getting 4G. I figured it'd probably be later summer before I'd have it, but if your phone is correct, sounds like they've already started installing it. Hopefully it's just the beginning and the signal will continue to get better.
My only concern, I've read somewhere that some Radio Shacks are setting up WiMax hotspots. Maybe there's a Radio Shack nearby that you're getting the signal from? Just a thought, could be wrong. It'll be interesting to see what happens when you venture out in the city to see if you continue to get the 4G signal and if it improves or gets worse.
Thanks for the update! Please keep us posted!
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There is a radio shack about 1.5 miles away. No idea where the signal is coming from. I will take a drive and test later today.
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There is a radio shack about 1.5 miles away. No idea where the signal is coming from. I will take a drive and test later today.
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nice now they need to head south to springfield and i will be much happier
Wow, I wasn't expecting STL to get 4G any time soon. I am so excited that you found this out. I am getting my phone on the 4th, and can't wait to test the speeds. I am in the southwest part of STL, in the boones. So I don't know how well it will work for me.
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dont get me wrong... its not bad...
but i have been able to get up to 2.5 down on sprints 3g in some places
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For some reason I'm getting better speeds on 4G via WiFi hotspot on my Win7 PC. Could be an issue with the speedtest.net app for android or a hardware issue or something.
Anyhow, this has been typical of tests from my PC via 4G hotspot.
4.5mbps
Why oh why must they wait til the 4th to release this phone. All along though, I had a feeling that 4g would be going by yht time the phone was released.
I bet Sprint just started working on it, so it might not be for a while until it's fully live, but it's still exciting that it sounds like it works to an extent. Does the 4G seem much faster than the 3G? Have you by chance tried it near South Kingshighway/Vandeventer/Southwest? or near the Botanical Gardens?
Has anyone tested the Metro East area? Fairview Heights/O'Fallon Area?
hmmmm interesting... I am in STL close downtown and the last couple of days my Hero have seemed much quicker with data transfers. I have no idea if this has anything to do with it but WOW, cool, thanks for the news. I did not expect to hear this at all. I figured it would be some lame excuse why it wasnt hear at the end of June.
colorado_al said:
There is a radio shack about 1.5 miles away. No idea where the signal is coming from. I will take a drive and test later today.
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From what I have been told, radioshacks just have repeaters in them. They basically just take a weak signal and boost it so it reaches more of the city.
So, WE DO HAVE 4G!!!
God, I can't wait till the 4th, and with the ability to use the sprint hot spot feature for free for a bit, ill be pushing large amounts of data through their network.
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Has anyone tested the Metro East area? Fairview Heights/O'Fallon Area?
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I'm interested in that, too, and how 4G will reach a bit farther south, like Belleville.
I'm guessing 4G will blanket the area just fine, but it would be nice to have some actual tests!
4G FULL service near the new River City Casino. Clocked about 3.3Mbps
Detected 4G (low signal) on I-64E at about Hwy 157 in Illinois, but then it dropped and cannot get a signal any further east.
I'm getting 4g signal in my home in Dogtown. That said, speeds aren't much better than the current 3g which is lightning fast on the Evo. I'm getting > 2mbps on it.
Fenton/Gravois Bluffs area is live

T-mobile HSDPA in NWI/Chicagoland area FINALLY -*EDIT*

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Sorry for misspeaking for the masses when saying chicagoland area, although my observations for SOME of the area seems to be right, according to this thread it may not be entirely accurate for the entire area. However NWI - Portage and surround areas to the west seem to get this good signal. Sorry guys =(
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Hey guys! I can hardly contain myself. Since launch day I was plagued with HORRIBLE cell reception and had the 3g/edge switching issue. New radios always seemed to help little by little as they were rolled out, and eventually I just gave up and went to WiFi at home all the time. Dropped calls and such happened frequently.
The cell signal for the past 3 weeks-ish has been weird and flaky. I've never since January have been able to get more than 800kbs and that was full bars. More times than not it was 300-400kbs.
As of this week.... 1700kbs!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus Christ this thing flies now. I've been missing out on a lot. THANK YOU TMOBILE!
If anyone else has some awesome success stories with the N1, post in this thread =)
congrats, hope they upgrade the Las Vegas area soon.
do you get a different icon on the home screen when on HSDPA? Like instead of 3G?
twflys said:
do you get a different icon on the home screen when on HSDPA? Like instead of 3G?
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no you will not get a new icon unless you are using a modded rom.
twflys said:
do you get a different icon on the home screen when on HSDPA? Like instead of 3G?
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I'm currently using the stock Froyo test build so no icon. I love moving about the town and have steady 5 bars though. =)
Hitorii said:
I'm currently using the stock Froyo test build so no icon. I love moving about the town and have steady 5 bars though. =)
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What part of town are you in? I never had any problems with reception in Lincoln Park, through max download speed was around 800 kilobits.
Edit: Just saw that you said Chicagoland..never mind.
im in the chicagoland area. I just got 450kpbs down on my speedtest.
Talcott and Harlem pushing 1300kb myself
I wonder how long it will be before it hits down here in Bloomington/Normal
Although were not that big, we have a lot down here. Illinois State University, Illinois Wesleyan University, State Farm Headquarters, Country Companies, Nestle, Mitsubishi Motors
Hitorii said:
Hey guys! I can hardly contain myself. Since launch day I was plagued with HORRIBLE cell reception and had the 3g/edge switching issue. New radios always seemed to help little by little as they were rolled out, and eventually I just gave up and went to WiFi at home all the time. Dropped calls and such happened frequently.
The cell signal for the past 3 weeks-ish has been weird and flaky. I've never since January have been able to get more than 800kbs and that was full bars. More times than not it was 300-400kbs.
As of this week.... 1700kbs!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus Christ this thing flies now. I've been missing out on a lot. THANK YOU TMOBILE!
If anyone else has some awesome success stories with the N1, post in this thread =)
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so now that you have solid service, do you look back and maybe were you one of the people who complained about the nexus one poor reception and all this, and now you got solid coverage so you see how those of us with great sesrvice dont have those issues!
uansari1 said:
What part of town are you in? I never had any problems with reception in Lincoln Park, through max download speed was around 800 kilobits.
Edit: Just saw that you said Chicagoland..never mind.
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I was in Roger's Park and my downstream was 800kbps~. I recently moved to River West, (like Grand/Halstead), and my speed was around 2.7mbps. My upstream is the same as before 350kbps~.
In westside Los Angeles, getting around 2.8mbps down. It's damn nice that TMO is stepping it up.
Just checked, I'm getting ~50KB/s down up. Slower than before.
I'm in the western suburbs.
In the Oak Lawn/Alsip area and speeds are the same as always 800kbps is peak but usually slower.
Well I live in Portage area and took the SS in the other day and was fairly consistent on the way. Perhaps I should get this edited. Sorry guys, I could of sworn it was rolled out for the rest of ya.
As for the complaints and such about low speed/choppy speeds. Its night and day. I had it and now I don't, ever. So I can see how big of an ordeal it would have been to straighten out this signal issue from tmobile-google as its not consistent
Where are you in Chicagoland area? I don't notice a difference. I frequent Chicago/Buffalo Grove/Highland Park areas.
jlevy73 said:
In westside Los Angeles, getting around 2.8mbps down. It's damn nice that TMO is stepping it up.
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Sure you weren't on WiFi?
I haven't seen speeds like that anywhere in LA.
mortzz said:
Just checked, I'm getting ~50KB/s down up. Slower than before.
I'm in the western suburbs.
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Are you on the 2.2 test ROM by chance? The test rom was missing some info in its build.prop file which may leave your phone unoptimized for cellular data.
ATnTdude said:
Are you on the 2.2 test ROM by chance? The test rom was missing some info in its build.prop file which may leave your phone unoptimized for cellular data.
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im on froyo maybe thats why im not seeing hspa+ then
This is the best I've seen in Austin:
Connection Type: Cell
Download: 4921 kbps
Upload: 1500 kbps
Ping: 76 ms
I can consistently get over 3mbs down.

3G Speeds in Indianapolis

Anyone live in Indianapolis or the surrounding areas? Since I switched to Sprint this month my 3G hasn't been faster than 600kpbs (on an extremely lucky day). It is more common to be between 100-300 kbps and I think that is a ripoff with an Everything Data Plan.
Anyone share my experience or have better numbers to provide?
Wish I knew out to check it, but dont know how. Im an android newbie. I can say this, every since switching to Sprint from both Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile, I have actually received better 3g signals and coverage at the workplace. If you show me how to check I will check.
I am receiving better 3g than before.
That seems about right to me... I actually am lucky to get that high on a speed test... Seems fairly fast when surfing or downloading from the market though. I agree that it seems a bit low.
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rkn2903 said:
I am receiving better 3g than before.
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than before what?
after switching from T-Mobile.
Finally got the test and ran it my speeds are: down 1.12 and up is 0.71. Dont know if this is good or bad.
dukins said:
Finally got the test and ran it my speeds are: down 1.12 and up is 0.71. Dont know if this is good or bad.
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That is normal in alot of area's, I know I get between 600-1.7 down and always around 700 up.
dukins said:
Finally got the test and ran it my speeds are: down 1.12 and up is 0.71. Dont know if this is good or bad.
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I would kill for those speeds? Where are you at Dukins if you don't mind me asking? I live in Carmel and work over by the Pyramids so I'm mostly always on the North side.
I am lucky to ever be able to get 600kbps, I'm more likely to have 300kbps down or even 130ish. I have no clue why my 3g is so slow.
Edit: I just ran a test and got 95kbps downstream and 734kbps upstream.......
dukins: can you go to your dialer and type ##33284# then click 1X Engineering and tell me what number is listed for SID? It is most likely 4135
itmustbejj said:
I would kill for those speeds? Where are you at Dukins if you don't mind me asking? I live in Carmel and work over by the Pyramids so I'm mostly always on the North side.
I am lucky to ever be able to get 600kbps, I'm more likely to have 300kbps down or even 130ish. I have no clue why my 3g is so slow.
Edit: I just ran a test and got 95kbps downstream and 734kbps upstream.......
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I work on the southside of Indy by Lilly's and live on Westside of Indy Pike Township area.
Yep SID is 4135. What is this information used for?
dukins said:
I work on the southside of Indy by Lilly's and live on Westside of Indy Pike Township area.
Yep SID is 4135. What is this information used for?
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SID is the ID of the tower you are connecting to.
I work in Indy and have been trying to figure out what is going too. I was wondering if it was my custom ROM or because I updated my radio? Or if it was just the EVO itself.
The speed I'm getting is killing me right now! I know my speeds aren't as slow outside of Indy where I live.
Kind of annoyed that I'm paying extra and my download speeds are slower on my EVO than they were on my Hero.
Was wishing to have 4G....but hell I'd be happy with a decent 3G at this point!!!
I get crap speeds anywhere in Carmel/Westfield; bad Sprint towers in northern Indianapolis.
I talked to a Sprint Tech Support Rep who gave my phone a "network refresh". Sounded like bullsh*t, but afterwards I've been getting great speeds where I have a good signal. I've been getting up to 1.4mbps in downtown Carmel and in Broadripple.
Also she said we are getting 2 new towers on the north side of Indy, one off Hazel Dell Pkwy in August, and another in Westfield in December.
Well, I was a couple of miles from downtown this morning sitting at standstill in pouring rain and traffic. Did a speedtest and got around 1.5 MBPS down! I was happy with that.
However, when I was back at work...it was under 400k. Guess maybe it could be my office building?
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Well, I was a couple of miles from downtown this morning sitting at standstill in pouring rain and traffic. Did a speedtest and got around 1.5 MBPS down! I was happy with that.
However, when I was back at work...it was under 400k. Guess maybe it could be my office building?
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I get similar speeds around my office (and nearby restaurants). I work up by the pyramids on the NW side of Indy.
I'm getting 1.4mbps down and 321kbps up on the north west side right now. I tested last night around the kessler/meridian area and got ~600kbps both ways.
What did you do for a network refresh?

Coachella valley how slow 3G speeds you gives 4G

Sprint is running currently all of the data traffic on a extremely small amount of servers. This means that everyone that is trying to use the internet on their cellphones on sprint is running on the same highway. So speeds are going to be really slow. What does this mean for us? Sprint is upgrading and testing new 4G towers and servers. This is an internal data BTW. Places like the top of LQ Cove have weak 4G signal and places like the Costco JackntheBox area have strong out door signal. North indio as well as the K-mart area in indio have weak 4G. So switch over to 4G in those areas and test it. Please comment bellow if you have found places with 4G signal in the Coachella Valley. What a coincidence that we are starting to get 4G since before Coachella fest.
What??????
How cool a fellow xda'er in the valley
I live in palm springs and some days get nice speeds and other days... not so nice. Lol. I hope they're gonna bring in 4G soon valleywide! I'm dreaming, but hey...
I figured slow speed was due to them testing the network.
Mark_in_Tulsa said:
What??????
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I think he said something about the Nexus and how Cyanogen is an overhyped rom?
josh995 said:
How cool a fellow xda'er in the valley
I live in palm springs and some days get nice speeds and other days... not so nice. Lol. I hope they're gonna bring in 4G soon valleywide! I'm dreaming, but hey...
I figured slow speed was due to them testing the network.
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oh wow how nice i thought i was the only one in the valley
apparently parts of palms springs and cat city around the 111 area have had 4G since the evo came out
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I think he said something about the Nexus and how Cyanogen is an overhyped rom?
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yeah thats totally what i meant to say lol
I thought I was the only one too lol
But yeah I used to check all the time for 4G in different parts of the valley but got tired of being disappointed so I quit looking lol... I think I'll start looking again since it's been a while
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yeah please do i usually have 4g on my phone on constantly but i switched to VR GengerSense rom with no 4G so i cant use it lol which means im stuck at 1X speeds till the tower at indio is back up and running
i was at LQ cove yesterday hiking towards cahuilla and i had the kingdom rom on my evo wich had 4G and i got full archs which was weird lol
Currently in Cathedral City, next to Date Palm, I am getting a fair signal and hitting speeds averaging 125 kB/s down and 15 kB/s up.

Holy 4G (Waterloo, IA)

Yep, 4G made it to my town and its amazing...just wanted to let everybody know. 3G still sucks HORRIBLY but 4G is amazing even with one bar.
MrTrip said:
Yep, 4G made it to my town and its amazing...just wanted to let everybody know. 3G still sucks HORRIBLY but 4G is amazing even with one bar.
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Congratz man! I know they say wimax is not even real 4G but it does have great speeds. Plus you can't really call hspa+ or lte real 4G either. Good to know Sprint is still expanding wimax even with there deal with lightsquared
Sent from my Mikimized Shift! (haha get it...like minimized...but the opposite.....I should shut up..
Awesome! I like how Sprint's still quietly sneaking out the 4G. We just got 4G in select parts of Des Moines within the last couple months But no word from Sprint and most of the Sprint customers I meet tell me I'm full of it when I say we got 4G here, lol.
ALL HAIL OTAKING71, THE RAPER OF HBOOT!!!
Any word on how far the signal goes outside of Waterloo (Cedar Falls?)
We supposedly have a 4g tower. You must have to go stand at the base of it to get a signal, though.
3g is pretty bad. But where I live in downtown los angeles. The 4g is really all over the place depending on how tall the building you are next to is. Inside my loft its very all over the place. No biggie. Just was hoping it would be a bit more stable in certain areas.
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I have yet to pick up 4g with my shift. Even when in Nashville, Tn.
Nor the town I work in where there are 4g towers as well.
Stood right next to a VZW guy last night and he was telling me about his charge, he was standing there on 4g. I was sad. =*(
I'm not having much issues with 3g speeds, but I was running stock Vanilla.
I just got around to rooting last night.
Got MikShifted loaded up for now, see if I like it.
Looks like i'ma have to re-flash already, to many apps I wont use. =*(
Why do you have to reflash? Why not just remove the stuff you don't want?
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I have yet to pick up 4g with my shift. Even when in Nashville, Tn.
Nor the town I work in where there are 4g towers as well.
Stood right next to a VZW guy last night and he was telling me about his charge, he was standing there on 4g. I was sad. =*(
I'm not having much issues with 3g speeds, but I was running stock Vanilla.
I just got around to rooting last night.
Got MikShifted loaded up for now, see if I like it.
Looks like i'ma have to re-flash already, to many apps I wont use. =*(
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You know you can remove those right? Its not like stock, if you use something like titanium to remove them, then they are gone, not back at reboot.
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Any word on how far the signal goes outside of Waterloo (Cedar Falls?)
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The signal is limited to the downtown area. Cedar Falls does not get any service from the 4G, and it cuts off right at the Fletcher exit on 218. Also it doesn't go past 18th Street Bridge and barely crosses Washington St to the west side. Crossroads has VERY faint 4G.
I have 1 solid bar in my house on the west side and its awesome. I have full signal on 218 (I assume the tower is near Tech Works).

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