AFAIK ClockWork must be flashed into nand to work properly. Also using it I can't flash via USB/DAF because I'll lost CWR. Is any posibility to make it work from file(s) on FAT32 formatted SD card like in some other android phones (in Samsung's Galaxy I7500 Nandroid we need only 2 files in SD and proper bootloader to make it working well - there is no posibility to kill Nandroid during ROM flash). We'll get easy way to test diffirent ROMs with fast option to restore our daily use build without looking only for ZIP ROMs.
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Hi guys,
Ive been reading about Clockwork recovery (watched the videos etc.) but still have a question.
I am using this rom on my HD2: NexusHD2-Froyo V1.9b NAND
I have configured my phone with all my personal settings, app, etc. and I want to install clockwork recovery so that I can install Apps2SD (using the .zip installation file). My 8GB SDcard is already partitioned with 1GB ext4 partition following the 7GB fat32 partition.
The question is can I install clockwork recovery without having to flash a new rom afterwards thus loosing all my current configuration? Or installing clockwork (copy files to SD root, then flash etc) does not affect current installed NAND rom?
Sorry if I was supposed to get this info through the various threads - I just could not find a clear answer.
Regards,
F
copy over the 2 files it tells you to and follow the insteructions, it wont do anything tothe existing installtion, well it didnt to me anyways
Richy99 said:
copy over the 2 files it tells you to and follow the insteructions, it wont do anything tothe existing installtion, well it didnt to me anyways
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cheers m8
Has anyone written a nice Newb overview of what this is?
There's bits all over the place but I really havent got the foggiest what it is. I read about partitions and .zip files etc etc but I cant find a nice Newb overview. Yes, I've found the CWM thread explaining how to install it but not what it's really for.
Is it an alternative to MAGLDR? Does it do more/less?? Why do I need partitions? Why is the SD card involved. Can it take 2 NANDS? All this seems to be touched on in various areas but it's hard to assimilate all the info.
Could someone either point me to the nice Newb overview or even write one!
Thanks
It allows you to backup,restore your data from nand and flash Roms from SD Card. I don't need it because the rom that I am using allows me to backup my data via Magldr. But if you like testing different roms or you update ur roms but your data gets erased everytime, Clockworkmod is for you.
Also If you install it, it will erase your nand. So if you had an android rom on your phone you will need to reflash it through SD because flashing through USB will mess up Clockworkmod, therefore you would have to reflash Clockworkmod.
With the SD card two file types are stored which allows clockworkmod to work. Think of it as a program data that is needed for Clockworkmod to fuction. Backing up Nand (Android) using clockworkmod will restore the operating system, settings and apps. Its like using System Restore on a PC. You can also choose between backing up your apps or your entire System.
I think you should wait because Magldr 1.12 will be released soon and if I can recall, it features a Recovery option.
Hope this helps in someway.
Dimension2035 said:
It allows you to backup,restore your data from nand and flash Roms from SD Card. I don't need it because the rom that I am using allows me to backup my data via Magldr. But if you like testing different roms or you update ur roms but your data gets erased everytime, Clockworkmod is for you.
Also If you install it, it will erase your nand. So if you had an android rom on your phone you will need to reflash it through SD because flashing through USB will mess up Clockworkmod, therefore you would have to reflash Clockworkmod.
With the SD card two file types are stored which allows clockworkmod to work. Think of it as a program data that is needed for Clockworkmod to fuction. Backing up Nand (Android) using clockworkmod will restore the operating system, settings and apps. Its like using System Restore on a PC. You can also choose between backing up your apps or your entire System.
I think you should wait because Magldr 1.12 will be released soon and if I can recall, it features a Recovery option.
Hope this helps in someway.
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Thanks. And I'm assuming you use all the 'old' Roms for CWM rather than the NAND builds?
jamesbond_28_007 said:
Thanks. And I'm assuming you use all the 'old' Roms for CWM rather than the NAND builds?
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Already explained above, but CWM is for NAND builds.
Could still do with an explanation in the 'how to flash everything' guide. This thing took off and there's very little for newbs.
There are many guides...you are looking in the wrong place. Look in the Android Nand Forum.
Here is a link to one of them: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
Well it's not written in the main guide. There bits and pieces throughout that thread but nothing explains what it really is, and more importantly its pros/cons/limitations.
Anyway, I'm certainly not on my high horse about this, would just be very grateful if someone could take the time to write a step by step guide. This site is great for newbs but I feel this has been overlooked.
I'd like to go back and forth between my favorite android build and my wp7 build on my hd2. I can backup and restore my android image via cwm; however, after flashing wp7, it erases cwm, and I can't seem to backup my wp7 image.
I need a way to dump rom from wp7. I know how to copy partitions on my 8gig sd card. Please help.
Btw, I am an experienced noob.
If I resize my recovery partition on my HD2, is all data on my SD card lost? and would i have to reflash a new NAND ROM?
Repartitioning your internal memory will not affect the data on your sd card in any way.
Yes, you would have to flash a new ROM, or restore a backup.
so i take it the recovery partition clockwork uses it not on that sd card
which leads to my other question, if my rom requires a 169mb recovery and i use a 400mb recovery, will it work?
yes it will work, but you will waste 231mb of rom space. This is because you will set a system partition of 400mb, and load into it 169mb of files, BUT once the rom is running, all your user data, installed apps, etc get put into different partitions. Nothing will use the extra 231mb in the system partition, so it will be completely wasted and unuseable.
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so i take it the recovery partition clockwork uses it not on that sd card
which leads to my other question, if my rom requires a 169mb recovery and i use a 400mb recovery, will it work?
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is there any sense rom that will work on a 150mb recovery? if so please share the link
Very unlikely. Why not just change the size?
samsamuel said:
Very unlikely. Why not just change the size?
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bored on my help desk job, was gonna mess with my rom,but if im goin to resize i rather do it at home....lol
think im gonna try the bliss rom, any takes on it?
well you could always flash the rom, play with it, then when you get home, do a cwm backup, change the part size, reflash the rom, then in cwm do an advanced restore and just restore the sd-ext and data partitions. hey presto, system size changed and any settings you configure today will be restored into the new flash.
CAnt comment on the rom, i only use typhoon.
abdalla21 said:
so i take it the recovery partition clockwork uses it not on that sd card
which leads to my other question, if my rom requires a 169mb recovery and i use a 400mb recovery, will it work?
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CAUTION; the CWM partition make it is for the SD and it WILL ERASE ALL DATA ON SD , for partition internal memory u have to use other tools on a PC (my favorite its HD2 toolkit)
Enviado desde mi HTC HD2
Typhoon has a nice stable sense rom.?
Send me a link
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Typhoon is a cm7 rom. Cm7 roms don't have sense.
I CAN highly recommend it, though. I've been on an older version typhoon for over a month now, and the only bug is the occasional failed video capture. Annoying, but doesn't happen often.
hi all,
i have GT-i5801., froyo., DDJP2., stock rom rooted..,comes with 170 mb internal storage...
also i never used App2SD...
i used the trick via terminal emulator to install all app..default to SD.,some app installed default...others i move manually to SD...
i don't have any partition...i've 2GB Memory card which comes with default...
i've backed up all apps using titanium....
now., i want to install Kyrillios ROM V 8.0 OC....my questions are...
why do we need partition....?? what is HybridData2SD...??
in this thread.,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957123
Install titanium and go to titanium backup's preferences, and select Restore Backups to => Internal Storage. Then do your restore...
why do i restore my back up to internal storage...??
suppose., i'm not happy with kyrillios...can i bring my stock rom froyo DDJP2 Back..?? how...??
i never flashed...this is my first...pls need more comments and help....
well Hybrid Data2SD is still a jargon for me. It has something to do like you can selectively move app data to sd card so something(not quite sure on this).
We partition our sd card so that we have a partition that is dedicated to apps only. Like its a hidden partition that will be used to store you apps on the sd card. Much better than manually moving your apps to sd card. App2SD by kyrillos (its a script, available in different versions. You need to select the version that suits your sd card class and capacity). On using such a script all your apps are moved to the sd card on installation.
By using Titanium backup you can view the free space on the sd-ex partition(the extra partition that you have made). Its best to partition the sd card via the CWM recovery which will come pre-installed on Kyrillos 8.0 or even on G3Mod Kernels.
I have provided a link below that has links to all the firmwares and kernels for our phone. So if you install Kyrillos's ROM and do not happen to like it, then you can select the stock JP2 firmware from the Index forum and flash back using ODIN.
Useful Links
I5801 Resources Index
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1234591
All the information you can use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858583
PS.
To flash a ROM you need ODIN and the .ops(Odin partitioning Script) files. Both of them will be available when you download Kyrillos ROM.
-> Open ODIN
-> Select the .ops file
-> Select flash as one package and select the .tar file
-> Connect the phone(You must have the USB drivers for you phone installed. You can install KIES for that)
-> Once connected, ODIN will show the port number and write something as Detected or something like that.
-> flash the firmware now. Pray to GOD.
Back up your IMEI before flashing. Always flash ROMs without bootloaders as they can permanently damage(Hard Brick) you phone.
All the best.
thanks for reply....
is partition necessary...i mean is it compulsory...??
Always flash ROMs without bootloaders as they can permanently damage(Hard Brick) you phone....
where can i find ROMs without bootloaders...i'm little confused...
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thanks for reply....
is partition necessary...i mean is it compulsory...??
Always flash ROMs without bootloaders as they can permanently damage(Hard Brick) you phone....
where can i find ROMs without bootloaders...i'm little confused...
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1. No partition isn't necessary. If you are happy with the internal storage that you have on your phone, then you can live without a partition!
2.All the custom ROM's (in this case Kyrillos) are without bootloaders, so they are safe to flash.
3. If you want to revert back to stock ROM, then you can find them (without bootloaders) over here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063940
LooksLikeSmart said:
hi all,
i have GT-i5801., froyo., DDJP2., stock rom rooted..,comes with 170 mb internal storage...
also i never used App2SD...
i used the trick via terminal emulator to install all app..default to SD.,some app installed default...others i move manually to SD...
i don't have any partition...i've 2GB Memory card which comes with default...
i've backed up all apps using titanium....
now., i want to install Kyrillios ROM V 8.0 OC....my questions are...
why do we need partition....?? what is HybridData2SD...??
in this thread.,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957123
Install titanium and go to titanium backup's preferences, and select Restore Backups to => Internal Storage. Then do your restore...
why do i restore my back up to internal storage...??
suppose., i'm not happy with kyrillios...can i bring my stock rom froyo DDJP2 Back..?? how...??
i never flashed...this is my first...pls need more comments and help....
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I came to know abt this hybrid data2sd and successfully booted CM7 and Froyo roms using multiboot.
I have written all steps on THIS post!
Hope it helps!!
Hybrid data2sd basically moves apps to your sd card partition. First you have to partition your sd card using minitool partition wizard (google it) or cwm recovery which comes on custom roms. This changes the format of that certain partition of your sd card to ext2/ext3/ext4. I think that makes it faster than fat32 which is the standard format of an sd card. When you have partitioned your sd card and have the hybrid data2sd script on your phone your apps with automatically go onto your sd card because your phone thinks the partition is internal storage so you don't need to move them in the settings (i made that mistake and my phone went crazy slow!). It's basically just a way of getting more storage whilst still keeping your phone working smoothly. Also you can easily go back to your stock rom by going to this thread and downloading whichever one you want although i don't think this will be the case since kyrillos roms are awesome.
how do i check used/remaining space in hybrid data2sd partition...??
pls need help...
I think you may need to type something into terminal emulator. Hillbeast is the best person to ask as he made the script in the first place.
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I Flashed [ROM] Kyrillos' ROM v8.2.1 JPS according to the Method given on this page.
1) I Downloaded V8.0 Flashed with Odin
2) I Partitioned using the Recovery Mode (1 Gb)
3) I pasted files in sdcard\Android\data\g3mod
File Names :
data2sd.dirs
fs.data2sd
multiosdata
multiosdata.cache
4)Rebooted and Installed v8.1 using Update.zip recovery mode
5) Rebooted installed v8.2.1 using Update.zip recovery
Still task manager shows 148-160mb used....
What i have done wrong ??? i cant understand
adcool2007 said:
I Flashed [ROM] Kyrillos' ROM v8.2.1 JPS according to the Method given on this page.
1) I Downloaded V8.0 Flashed with Odin
2) I Partitioned using the Recovery Mode (1 Gb)
3) I pasted files in sdcard\Android\data\g3mod
File Names :
data2sd.dirs
fs.data2sd
multiosdata
multiosdata.cache
4)Rebooted and Installed v8.1 using Update.zip recovery mode
5) Rebooted installed v8.2.1 using Update.zip recovery
Still task manager shows 148-160mb used....
What i have done wrong ??? i cant understand
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you cannot see the partition in storage settings i guess!
But its working!