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Has anyone written a nice Newb overview of what this is?
There's bits all over the place but I really havent got the foggiest what it is. I read about partitions and .zip files etc etc but I cant find a nice Newb overview. Yes, I've found the CWM thread explaining how to install it but not what it's really for.
Is it an alternative to MAGLDR? Does it do more/less?? Why do I need partitions? Why is the SD card involved. Can it take 2 NANDS? All this seems to be touched on in various areas but it's hard to assimilate all the info.
Could someone either point me to the nice Newb overview or even write one!
Thanks
It allows you to backup,restore your data from nand and flash Roms from SD Card. I don't need it because the rom that I am using allows me to backup my data via Magldr. But if you like testing different roms or you update ur roms but your data gets erased everytime, Clockworkmod is for you.
Also If you install it, it will erase your nand. So if you had an android rom on your phone you will need to reflash it through SD because flashing through USB will mess up Clockworkmod, therefore you would have to reflash Clockworkmod.
With the SD card two file types are stored which allows clockworkmod to work. Think of it as a program data that is needed for Clockworkmod to fuction. Backing up Nand (Android) using clockworkmod will restore the operating system, settings and apps. Its like using System Restore on a PC. You can also choose between backing up your apps or your entire System.
I think you should wait because Magldr 1.12 will be released soon and if I can recall, it features a Recovery option.
Hope this helps in someway.
Dimension2035 said:
It allows you to backup,restore your data from nand and flash Roms from SD Card. I don't need it because the rom that I am using allows me to backup my data via Magldr. But if you like testing different roms or you update ur roms but your data gets erased everytime, Clockworkmod is for you.
Also If you install it, it will erase your nand. So if you had an android rom on your phone you will need to reflash it through SD because flashing through USB will mess up Clockworkmod, therefore you would have to reflash Clockworkmod.
With the SD card two file types are stored which allows clockworkmod to work. Think of it as a program data that is needed for Clockworkmod to fuction. Backing up Nand (Android) using clockworkmod will restore the operating system, settings and apps. Its like using System Restore on a PC. You can also choose between backing up your apps or your entire System.
I think you should wait because Magldr 1.12 will be released soon and if I can recall, it features a Recovery option.
Hope this helps in someway.
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Thanks. And I'm assuming you use all the 'old' Roms for CWM rather than the NAND builds?
jamesbond_28_007 said:
Thanks. And I'm assuming you use all the 'old' Roms for CWM rather than the NAND builds?
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Already explained above, but CWM is for NAND builds.
Could still do with an explanation in the 'how to flash everything' guide. This thing took off and there's very little for newbs.
There are many guides...you are looking in the wrong place. Look in the Android Nand Forum.
Here is a link to one of them: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
Well it's not written in the main guide. There bits and pieces throughout that thread but nothing explains what it really is, and more importantly its pros/cons/limitations.
Anyway, I'm certainly not on my high horse about this, would just be very grateful if someone could take the time to write a step by step guide. This site is great for newbs but I feel this has been overlooked.
Hi guys,
I have a problem with my HD2. I have MAGLAR 1.13 and NAND rom from gauner "[23 JAN] gauner1986's Z-FI 0.1 (Desire Z based) [KERNEL = my own ]". + rafpigna 1.70OC kernel.
Everything works great but GP FIx was kinda slow. So I tryed to follow this trhead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900631&page=14 and I copied the sensors.bravo.so gps.bravo.so to /system/lib/hw/. I didn't replaced nothing because these files were not there. Also changed permissions from 644 to 777 on /system/lib/libgps.so. And rebooted... (this is the ref http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=490930&d=1295171058)
Now after load the maglar and kernel, when it shows the "HTC Quietly brilliant" phone just won't leave this stage.. and won't boot... just cycles on this stage.
I need to access filesystem to remove those files from it. How can I do it without having the phone booted?
Tks,
pmjcr
Can I do it from AD Recovery?
I can see that with MAGLDR 1.13 I have a AD Recovery mode. And if I put a zip on root of sdcard I can make ate least something... What do I have to put on the zip file in order to delete these files?...
Also see that in these zips there is a META-INF\com\google\android\update-script
In this script usually I has these commands
ui_print("Formatting System..."); to print something to the screen
format("MTD", "system"); I believe this is for formating partition
mount("MTD", "boot", "/boot") This should be to mount....
What I need is a "rm" command/syntax to remove sensors.bravo.so gps.bravo.so from /system/lib/hw
someone??...
I think I've found...
delete DATA:etc/hosts--------------delete("/data/etc/hosts");
on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936175
will try... fingers crossed
Your new sensors file may be causing the issue.
Since it appears you have Clockwork recovery, do a NAND backup then a file system format, then re-flash your ROM.
You can at least then recover the data area should this fix the issue.
I am not having any luck... this update.zip from root of SD is only for Clockworkmod and I don't have it... only magldr... As in menu i've seen "AD Recovery" I though it would work.. but no...
What is the AD Recovery for on MAGLDR and how can I use it? When I select it I will have "no boot sources".
Ok... I'm a little tired of searching... but I've realized that I need a way of doing an incremental update via DFT method. Anyone knows how?...
I really don't want to loose my s4ettings from my phone... everything was working so great... just the GPS was slow on fix... buááááááá
If you are going to continue to ask several questions in this thread between replies I suggest you edit one post over and over. It is difficult to help when you're having to quote many different posts.
If you don't have Clockwork recovery installed then you have a problem - sort of. You won't have AD Recovery, and installing it will wipe your current ROM.
My suggestion is you download CWR 1.12 which is the SD Card method, put the zipped files in the ROOT of your SDCARD and use the SD AD or SD Android boot option in MAGLDR. This should give you the option to backup your ROM and flash a new .zip ROM.
dkl_uk said:
If you are going to continue to ask several questions in this thread between replies I suggest you edit one post over and over. It is difficult to help when you're having to quote many different posts.
If you don't have Clockwork recovery installed then you have a problem - sort of. You won't have AD Recovery, and installing it will wipe your current ROM.
My suggestion is you download CWR 1.12 which is the SD Card method, put the zipped files in the ROOT of your SDCARD and use the SD AD or SD Android boot option in MAGLDR. This should give you the option to backup your ROM and flash a new .zip ROM.
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Thanks for your adviceI was already on that stage trying a SD built. I've loaded and android from SD but getting an image required some more additional steps. I ended by installing a new built (the DL Desire one) that has a recovery method.
Thanks for your help.
Rgds,
I am curious about the topic in the title as well. I have access to a Mac and PC. Some sort of "USB" mode that allows access to the internal memory and not just the memory card.
Hi, I'm new on this forum, and I already have a problem
I just got my HD2 with android running from the phone. I was an xperia and WM user before, so I decided to give it a try. I'm trying to reset the phone (so I can costumize android) via Settings-Privacy-factory data reset, but it wont work, I hit the button "Erase everything" and noting happens.
Is there any other way to do this, maybe from the "boot manager" (I dont know the proper term for this).
...oh yes, I dont know witch specific rom is installed, I only know it is android 2.3.4
By "running from the phone " I assume you mean nand.
Turn on phone, hold power till get magldr screen, in magldr choose Ad recovery, when clockwork starts choose "wipe data factory rwsst" and "wipe cache" then restart.
yes I tried that before but it says "no boot sources"
so I guess I'm without clockwork...and I guess also this can be installed only when you install a new ROM..
GsiminL said:
yes I tried that before but it says "no boot sources"
so I guess I'm without clockwork...and I guess also this can be installed only when you install a new ROM..
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Hi,
Backup your data before you start.
Download THIS TOOL (Don't forget to thank him)
Find your new ROM and determine the new partition size.
In the toolkit highlight Magldr update recovery,choose your size and update.
Then go to ad recovery and wipe data,cache partition,and dalvik(advanced).
Then install ROM.
The new partition + the wiping will thouroughly clean you up .
Tnx for the help, but I think I'm going to put WM back because I just found out that outlook and google can't be synced so easily as I use outlook for everything it's a shame.
Thank you very much for your help.
I use outlook. Myphoneexplorer syncs fine with outlook. (though I don't sync with google since doing so corrupts many of my contacts custom fields)
malybru said:
Hi,
Backup your data before you start.
Download THIS TOOL (Don't forget to thank him)
Find your new ROM and determine the new partition size.
In the toolkit highlight Magldr update recovery,choose your size and update.
Then go to ad recovery and wipe data,cache partition,and dalvik(advanced).
Then install ROM.
The new partition + the wiping will thouroughly clean you up .
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can I reinstall a whole new rom ( HD2 CoreDroid HD GB 2.3.3 V3) and delete everything from the device using this tool?
GsiminL said:
can I reinstall a whole new rom ( HD2 CoreDroid HD GB 2.3.3 V3) and delete everything from the device using this tool?
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Hi,
This tool does a lot of the hard work for you.
Remember to back up your data before you start ,because these processes wipe your system clean.
Yes,this tool wipes your device(Not the sd card).
Re-install everything.
Use the tool to re-partition your system:
system ya 390M
cache ya 5M
Then:
go to ad recovery and wipe data,cache partition,and dalvik(advanced).
then install ROM
so to install a new NAND android rom (HD2 CoreDroid HD GB 2.3.3 V3):
i need to have MAGLDR and before that the right radio and HSPL. I already have all of this because I have installed an android rom.
from what I learned today reading all sorts of things on the forum, is that I can install this rom (HD2 CoreDroid HD GB 2.3.3 V3) or any other also without doing all that staff with the SD card and partitions, CWM... or am I wrong? - From the MAGLDR USB flash. for this to work does the rom have to be a special file type or can it be .zip like for the flashing from the SDcard?
...the CWM allowes me to backup and update android, or so I understend it?
but is it possible to install via MAGLDR #4 option and install CWM afterwards?
forgot: this tool kit enables me to do all this: install new MAGLDR, CWM an then I falsh the rom? I don't understand how it works
GsiminL said:
so to install a new NAND android rom (HD2 CoreDroid HD GB 2.3.3 V3):
i need to have MAGLDR and before that the right radio and HSPL. I already have all of this because I have installed an android rom.
from what I learned today reading all sorts of things on the forum, is that I can install this rom (HD2 CoreDroid HD GB 2.3.3 V3) or any other also without doing all that staff with the SD card and partitions, CWM... or am I wrong? - From the MAGLDR USB flash. for this to work does the rom have to be a special file type or can it be .zip like for the flashing from the SDcard?
...the CWM allowes me to backup and update android, or so I understend it?
but is it possible to install via MAGLDR #4 option and install CWM afterwards?
forgot: this tool kit enables me to do all this: install new MAGLDR, CWM an then I falsh the rom? I don't understand how it works
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Hi,
Backup your data before you start
Read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090783
Magldr repartition(use 5 usb flasher) (390MB, 5MB cache)
Then 8 ad recovery>wipe data,cache partition,dalvik(advanced)
Then go to install zip from sd card
Choose zip from sd card (which you should have placed on the root of your sd card,using a card reader)
After installation,reboot.
Give it time.
Some ROMS take 15-20 minutes to install.
aha so if I repartition MAGLDR my device will be wiped an the CWM will be installed. the partition sizes that you suggested are for the rom (HD2 CoreDroid HD GB 2.3.3 V3) that I'm trying to install? (I cant yet post in their thread so can't ask them)
and if I can ask this particular rom can be installed only by partitioning and flashing it by sdcard or also in MAGLDR?
malybru said:
Hi,
Backup your data before you start
Read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090783
Magldr repartition(use 5 usb flasher) (390MB, 5MB cache)
Then 8 ad recovery>wipe data,cache partition,dalvik(advanced)
Then go to install zip from sd card
Choose zip from sd card (which you should have placed on the root of your sd card,using a card reader)
After installation,reboot.
Give it time.
Some ROMS take 15-20 minutes to install.
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ok I think i got it now (about time ) only one question
Can I put the .zip ROM in the SD card by connecting the phone before I start the whole process like I would put music on or does it have to be formatted and empty with only rom on it?
GsiminL said:
the partition sizes that you suggested are for the rom (HD2 CoreDroid HD GB 2.3.3 V3) that I'm trying to install? (I cant yet post in their thread so can't ask them)
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that thread, post three, post titled 'Read read read read read!!!!!!!!!' in the section entitled FAQ,
What is in the required NAND Partition (flash.cfg)
misc ya 1M
recovery rrecov|ro|nospr filesize recovery-raw.img
boot yboot|ro 10M
system ya 390M
cache ya 5M
userdata ya|asize|hr allsize
GsiminL said:
ok I think i got it now (about time ) only one question
Can I put the .zip ROM in the SD card by connecting the phone before I start the whole process like I would put music on or does it have to be formatted and empty with only rom on it?
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Hi,
Sd card does NOT need to be formatted.
It is best to put the new ROM onto the root of your sd card,USING A CARD READER.
This will avoid any data corruption.
malybru said:
Hi,
Sd card does NOT need to be formatted.
It is best to put the new ROM onto the root of your sd card,USING A CARD READER.
This will avoid any data corruption.
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so it is not recommendable to copy it by normal usb connection Phone-PC
huh ok tnx guys for all your time and help
xperia was much easyer
I want to re-partition my NAND, and don't have windows around. So I downloaded cwm-sd.zip and cwm.zip. I extracted cwm-sd.zip to the root of my sd card , copied cwm.zip with appropriate flash.cfg inserted. I will reboot, go to Mahler, ad sd. (As described)
But I will get sd kernel open failed.
I try with the latest stable clockworkmod. 5.0.26
Any ideas what the problem might be.
I want to repart nand only, so any other ideas not including windows pc are welcome, I have pc with Ubuntu on it.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda premium
1st-sorry, don't know why its not entering cwm
But
2n- it doesn't work like that. you can't repartition magldr from SD. If it did boot "ad SD" it would run cwm, nothing more. The SD cwm is so you can backup/flash roms without having nand cwm, but it relies on the nand already being partitioned.
If you want to partition from SD use clk instead of magldr.
I have a working CWM installed. I just want to re-part, really.
According to this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=987531
it seems this should be possible. I dont want to re-install CWM though, I just want to re-part. I can cope with terminal and adb , I think, and these options are (I think) available under linux, but I dont know how to do it
Well, I disagree, but hey, you have the info. I'll be interested in reading your how-to if you manage it.
(Also, from your other threads you seem not to have noticed that partitioning also installs cwm at the same time)
deckoff said:
I have a working CWM installed. I just want to re-part, really.
According to this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=987531
it seems this should be possible. I dont want to re-install CWM though, I just want to re-part. I can cope with terminal and adb , I think, and these options are (I think) available under linux, but I dont know how to do it
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Even with this link i failed at setting up ADB on my Ubuntu machine but you may have better luck than i.
I am almost 100% sure I managed to do this way back in time. What I don't know is if I can use adb to partition NAND , and if so, how. Not to mention that the phone is not the typical android phone.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda premium
samsamuel said:
Well, I disagree, but hey, you have the info. I'll be interested in reading your how-to if you manage it.
(Also, from your other threads you seem not to have noticed that partitioning also installs cwm at the same time)
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I have noticed it, I assume it will install over the existing one...
I dont have any info, I just cite a source. The process apparently fails for me, so I am stuck. I am probably misunderstanding it.
You CAN install cwm over the current one, by booting into cwm and then using flash zip from sd card, and selecting the new cwm.zip from your sd (just like flashing a rom), BUT this doesn't partition anything, it is just loading the contents of the zip into the recovery partition that already exists.
trust me, if you want to partition the phone without a pc, you need to be using cLK.
From the link above:
For MAGLDR up to 1.13, booting from SDCard (SD-files version):
Download the file attached
Extract the files to the root directory of your sdcard
Start recovery within MAGLDR with menu point "AD SD"
Recovery should start
You're done
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What exactly is this used method used for? It is described in the Install CWM methods(if I am not wrong)
Flash.cfg files in clockworkmod.zip are used to re-part data and user partitions. What happens if I re-flash CWM.zip with custom flash.cfg file inside via method at the top of the post. Or just flashing CWM.zip with flash.cfg via the installed CWM. What and when reads the flash.cfg files and act accordingly?
It is not a question of trust, I would love to know the basic workflow of the process
The cwm that comes with a flash,cfg is for flashing to nand via usb - magldr - usb flasher, or the cLK equivalent.
the cwm-sd version, and the process outlined in your quote, is used to boot into a valid working copy of cwm from sd card instead of the nand recovery partition.
For example if your nand version of cwm gets corrupted, .. for example trying to use rom manager under magldr, corrupts the nand copy of cwm, so you can load to the sd version of cwm, and use that to do a backup of your rom and/or reinstall cwm into the nand partition. It does NOT let you repartition the nand in the process. The partitioning happens via teh daf.exe and flash.cfg, , its daf.exe that does it. cwm just works with teh contents of teh partitions, not teh actual partitions.
If you were really tight on space, you could omit the nand recovery partition altogether and only ever run cwm from sd, gaining a whole FIVE MEG to put towards the data partition!
Hi,
I am currently using Rom from tyween: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951 and I would like to install a new one from Tytung http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2224469 .
My questions:
1. in description of tytungs Rom is stated that NAND version is for USA T-mobile so I assume that with my international version I have to use the other two versions and if so then the only way to install it is using aurora installer?
2. Nevertheless I tried NAND version installed it using CWM but then it got stuck on loading screen, could this problem be solved by this patch? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40623956&postcount=821
3. Is it possible to use Rom Manager to install this Rom? I have only tried CWM method and this one seems also really easy to use.
Thank you for your answers!!!
peter.l said:
Hi,
My questions:
1. in description of tytungs Rom is stated that NAND version is for USA T-mobile so I assume that with my international version I have to use the other two versions and if so then the only way to install it is using aurora installer?
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Nand is divided into two: 1- Pure Nand (EVERYTHING is on the NAND of the device) and 2- Nand with DataOnExt (as the name implies, some of the data will be stored on an EXT partition on your SD card).
Since the international version of the HD2 only has about half a gig of storage, if you fit everything into the NAND you won't have enough space left for you to install apps and whatnot. If you want it on NAND, you need to choose the second option (some data on the sdcard), but you need to make sure you have an EXT partition on your sd card first (if you don't know how to make one, search).
And "aurora" (you mean aroma*) is just a path, it IS like you said THE installer. It's got nothing to do with your installation. It is just a fancy make-up for the old installation method. Yes, you'll have to use it.
peter.l said:
2. Nevertheless I tried NAND version installed it using CWM but then it got stuck on loading screen, could this problem be solved by this patch? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40623956&postcount=821
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No, that patch is for something else. Your problem is different.
If you mean:
1- NAND Only, then you may have not made enough partition space for the system. (Either way, you shouldn't use this one, use NAND WITH dataonext).
but if you mean 1- NAND with DataOnExt, then it is either your partition size is too small or you do not have a proper sdcard ext partition.
peter.l said:
3. Is it possible to use Rom Manager to install this Rom? I have only tried CWM method and this one seems also really easy to use.
Thank you for your answers!!!
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It's the same thing. When you select "Install ROM" in ROM Manager, it will actually reboot your device into CWM and you will have to follow the steps of Aroma as well. Yes, you can use it if you have cLK bootloader and not magldr.
You are welcome
According to your answer, I have to download AROMA installer and use it for installing new Rom. In DataOnExt version will 1 Gb partition be enough?
peter.l said:
According to your answer, I have to download AROMA installer and use it for installing new Rom. In DataOnExt version will 1 Gb partition be enough?
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No, Aroma is *included* in the .zip file of the ROM. Just download the ROM, flash from recovery normally but instead of the usual text of procedure, you'll see a fancy screen where you get to configure the ROM before it is installed.
In my opinion, yes, 1GB is more than enough.
recover
Hi.i can not enter to recovery in this rom.Can someone help me.I installed by cwn
exlord1 said:
Hi.i can not enter to recovery in this rom.Can someone help me.I installed by cwn
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CWM is independent from the ROM you install.
If you are talking about "boot into recovery" from within the ROM, that's a rom's feature and does not have to be included in it. You can reach the recovery by rebooting your phone into MAGLDR and then choosing the option AD. Recovery or something like that.
Just to add a little to Marvlesz's answer, reboot into recovery/bootloader on any ROM will just reboot the phone normally if you have MAGLDR. To access CWM just hold power for the MAGLDR menu then select 8. AD Recovery. If you use cLK on the other hand, reboot into recovery does work if I'm not mistaken.
I tried to install this ROM using various settings (DataOnExt / Native SD, wipe/no wipe, magldr / ppp...) but phone always ends up rebooting itself after htc loading screen. I did partition SD card to FAT 32 (primary) and 1GB EXT4 (primary).
What could be the problem and how to solve it?
Thank you!
peter.l said:
I tried to install this ROM using various settings (DataOnExt / Native SD, wipe/no wipe, magldr / ppp...) but phone always ends up rebooting itself after htc loading screen. I did partition SD card to FAT 32 (primary) and 1GB EXT4 (primary).
What could be the problem and how to solve it?
Thank you!
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It could literally be ANYTHING. Follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16528026&postcount=7
and I think you'll be good, please read everything there.
peter.l said:
I tried to install this ROM using various settings (DataOnExt / Native SD, wipe/no wipe, magldr / ppp...) but phone always ends up rebooting itself after htc loading screen. I did partition SD card to FAT 32 (primary) and 1GB EXT4 (primary).
What could be the problem and how to solve it?
Thank you!
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What /system partition size did you use? Make sure it's big enough for the ROM you're trying to flash.
Nigeldg said:
What /system partition size did you use? Make sure it's big enough for the ROM you're trying to flash.
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EXT4 = 1GB. I partitioned SD card with Mini Tool Partition Wizard, then copied Zip on SD card, wiped data (factory reset + dalvik) installed ROM. To me it feels like I did everything according to instructions...
peter.l said:
EXT4 = 1GB. I partitioned SD card with Mini Tool Partition Wizard, then copied Zip on SD card, wiped data (factory reset + dalvik) installed ROM. To me it feels like I did everything according to instructions...
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No, not your SD EXT partition, the partition you flashed when flashing CWM.
Nigeldg said:
No, not your SD EXT partition, the partition you flashed when flashing CWM.
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I have 150 mb. So for this ROM should I use 250 or 400?
peter.l said:
I have 150 mb. So for this ROM should I use 250 or 400?
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285. To create that, go to wherever your CWM thing is stored on your PC, open the CWM folder, open the file flash.cfg (not flash.cfg.txt.) in notepad (it should open in this way automatically) then change the value next to the line beginning 'SYSTEM...' from 150 to 285, keeping everything else exactly the same.