[Q] best rom with Sense UI for Vision - G2 and Desire Z General

Hi guys, i like HTC sense interface, i was wondering what's the best, that is closer to the stock rom and simplest rom for Vision, in particular for t-mobile G2?
thanks

Here's a link to Virtuous Rom......I ran it myself for quite a while very smooth and stable.

I believe that there are five maybe six Sense-based roms built for the Z/G2. Go take a look in the development section, there are a number of stream lined sense roms ported from various devices such as the Desire HD, mytouch 4g, and the Desire Z etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835687
That link will take you to the various ports.
Currently the most updated and supported Sense rom is the Virtuous rom maintained by RMK40, get ready to read because there's a lot of goodies packed with this rom.
Here ya go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=837042
And lastly, there's like two other Sense roms that really arent supported much any longer, one by Paul I believe (released shortly after permaroot achieved) and a slimmed down Vanilla based sense rom (probably what you're wanting) by the VillianRom team.
Here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855560
Lastly, please please please research as much as possible regarding any questions you may have as the only true route of learning is through consequence and self accomplishment. Not spoon feeding. Hope this helps

Virtuous is updated at least one a month, with great improvements with each. I highly recommend. Its extremely fast as well.
sent from my V I S I O N.

so I installed virtuous 0.9, its a very good rom, the only thing that i have to say regard the functions assigned to the physical keyboard, i have a g2 and at the key com/www is assigned the function tab, is it possible to make it work as com/www?
i saw the image of those rom : VillainROMZ & SuperVillainZ for the G2/DZ - Sense UI & Vanilla Style, meXdroid Mod EXTRA HotSauce! V 0.2 and Enomther's [ROM] TheOfficial G2/DZ v2.14.2, do they contain basic sense interface in it?
is Q'n'D-MIUI-1.1.28-V1.0-EN based on sense?

underground9 said:
so I installed virtuous 0.9, its a very good rom, the only thing that i have to say regard the functions assigned to the physical keyboard, i have a g2 and at the key com/www is assigned the function tab, is it possible to make it work as com/www?
i saw the image of those rom : VillainROMZ & SuperVillainZ for the G2/DZ - Sense UI & Vanilla Style, meXdroid Mod EXTRA HotSauce! V 0.2 and Enomther's [ROM] TheOfficial G2/DZ v2.14.2, do they contain basic sense interface in it?
is Q'n'D-MIUI-1.1.28-V1.0-EN based on sense?
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probably a way to make it function like that if you do the legwork yourself. no option through the rom because its based on the desire z which has a tab key and no www.com key.
miui is not based on sense its based on miui and is compared to an iphone like interface. its very smooth and fast. a great rom but not sense.
not sure about the other roms you mentioned because i run virtuous

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[GUIDE] Guide to picking a ROM

Back when I got this phone a few months ago, I was having a hard time choosing a good rom that suits me. I tested nearly every rom that's out there and *think* I have something I'm going to stay on for quite a while. The process would have been much easier, though, if there was a guide to choosing a rom, so that's exactly what I made for the noobs that just got this phone. So without further ado:
HOW TO CHOOSE A ROM
DISCLAIMER: IF ANYTHING BAD HAPPENS TO YOUR PHONE, INCLUDING BRICKING, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE. IF SOMETHING GOOD HAPPENS, THEN I GUESS IT WAS ME.
Before you choose a rom, you should learn a bit first.
There are three main types of roms:
AOSP (built from source)
Sense (built off HTC roms)
Senseless (a Sense rom without sense… more on this later)
Within AOSP roms, there are two main types: vanilla UI and custom UI. Vanilla UI roms run on Froyo (2.2) or Gingerbread (2.3, latest version except for Honeycomb). These have the stock Android UI. You can tell if a rom is AOSP by visual inspection of the dock. In Froyo AOSP roms, the dock has a background of a rounded, translucent rectangle with two dividers, with a 4x4 tiny grid for the app drawer button in the middle. In Gingerbread AOSP roms, the dock has a background of a sharp-cut grey rectangle with no dividers, with a 4x4 tiny grid for the app drawer button in the middle. This doesn’t always work, as some Sense themes will change the dock, but Sense roms will almost always also have a black top notification bar, which in AOSP roms (Froyo or Gingerbread) is always white.
AOSP roms are built from the Android Open Source Project. Because Android is open source, anyone can take the code, add, remove, or change features, and create their own version of Android. The current (stable) Android version is Gingerbread 2.3, but the only phone using it is the Nexus S and no manufacturer has made their own version except for Samsung (Nexus S only). Enter AOSP building. Because Gingerbread is available in the AOSP, devs can download the source, add the necessary drivers, mod it, and release it. This is what CyanogenMod 7 or OM(F)GB is.
There are Froyo 2.2 AOSP roms also, but since HTC has made their own Froyo with Sense, there is no point in using an AOSP rom just to have Froyo. There is if you want extra customizations and hate Sense. Personally, I would never use a Froyo AOSP rom, only a Gingerbread one but that’s just me.
Then there are roms with really customized UIs like MIUI and LiquidMetal/Light. They look nothing like the standard AOSP UI. MIUI looks like an iPhone, and LiquidMetal looks like… nothing I’ve ever seen before. Check it out yourself.
Sense roms are built off HTC official roms. There are three main types: Incredible-based roms (based on the Incredible stock rom), Evo-based roms (based on the Evo 4G stock rom), and New Sense roms (based on Desire Z, Desire HD, or Incredible S stock roms). Incredible based roms are the result of a dev taking the official rom and adding or removing stuff. Evo based roms are based off ports from the Evo official rom or ports of an already modded Evo rom. These roms are a bit faster than real Incredible roms. Porting is easy because the devices are very similar. New Sense roms are ported from Desire Z/HD or Incredible S. They have a “Personalize” menu that replaces the “Add” menu, which allows you to use HTC-supported skins.
They can also rotate the launcher. You can tell old sense roms from new sense roms by pressing menu at the home screen and see if there is an item called add or personalize. Old sense will have add, but new sense will have personalize.
Senseless roms are just sense roms without sense. This probably makes no sense (lol). Basically, you can use launchers like ADW or LauncherPro without leaving sense running. This is better because sense will take up battery and CPU and if you don’t use it then it’s a waste. There is a desensitizing script at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724813 . I haven’t tried it.
Q: BUT WHAT SHOULD I CHOOSE?
A: Have you read the stuff above? If not, then read it. If you have, proceed to the “Android Rom Personality Test” below.
1. Do I like HTC Sense UI? (Quick Info: HTC Sense UI is the UI that comes on your device stock. Distinctive Characteristics: Flip Clock, Black Status Bar. Sense also has a ton of awesome widgets.)
a. Yes. I love it! Proceed to Question 2
b. No. I hate it! Proceed to Question 4
2. Do I like the Inc/Evo Sense or the Desire Z/HD/Inc S Sense better? (Quick Info: Do you like to rotate the homescreen and retain Sense? Do you like HTC supported themes? Yes to anything = I prefer Desire Z/HD/Inc S)
a. Inc/Evo Sense. Proceed to Question 3
b. Desire Z/HD/Inc S Sense. Proceed to Rom Recommendations (Type 3)
3. Do I like any Inc theme or Evo theme?
a. I like a particular Inc theme. Proceed to Rom Recommendations (Type 1)
b. I like a particular Evo theme. Proceed to Rom Recommendations (Type 2)
c. I don’t know. Proceed to Rom Recommendations (Type 1 and 2)
4. Do I like any of the HTC apps (News or Mail for example)?
a. I like them but not Sense. Proceed to Rom Recommendations (Type 4)
b. I hate them in addition to Sense. Proceed to Question 5
5. Do I like the Stock android interface?
a. Yes. I like it. Proceed to Rom Recommendations (Type 5)
b. No. I hate it in addition to Sense. Proceed to Rom Recommendations (Type 6).
ROM RECOMMENDATIONS:
Type 1: You should use an Incredible-based Sense rom. My favorites are Skyraider Sense, Redemption, and Magnolia.
Type 2: You should use an Evo-based Sense rom. My favorites are Incredibly Re-engineered, Warm 2.2, and Redemptive rEVOlution.
Type 3: You should use a New Sense Rom. My favorites are Uber Z and Warm Z.
Type 4: You should use a Senseless rom or use the Desensitize script on any Sense rom. I don’t have any recommendations.
Type 5: You should use an AOSP rom. For Gingerbread I recommend Cyanogenmod 7 or OM(F)GB. For Froyo I don’t know, I haven’t used an AOSP Froyo rom before.
Type 6: Use a “Different UI” rom. These are MIUI and Liquid Metal/Light. I prefer Light though they aren’t too different. Also there is the Meizu M9 rom which looks like a refined MIUI but it’s very buggy.
CREDITS: Thanks to the community for being great. I don’t claim that any of these roms are my work.
I will try to maintain this guide (for example add the Gingerbread Sense rom from Huashan if it ever gets done).
Q & A: TO BE ADDED LATER ON

List of ROM's + MODS, KERNELS, RADIOS, HBOOT and MORE -- For the HTC Incredible

* These ROM's are listed in no particular order besides by category, they are just all here for you to see and choose for yourself. Check the threads to find out any bugs or problems certain ROM's may have. Some are optimized for speed, others for ease of use, features, while some are simply genius.
If you're new to custom ROM's don't get discouraged after a single bad experience with a particular ROM, I can almost guarantee you that you will find one that will blow away the Stock ROM to your liking.
Too many to choose from? Ask around in the Q & A section to get opinions for what ROM is best for you.
We love our developers here and hope everyone looking to change their incredible up will find a ROM (or ROM's ) that they love.
-------- GINGERBREAD ROM's --------
--------Gingerbread (Android 2.3.x) is the latest Android release for our phones.--------
With HTC Sense - ROMs based on a stock or ported Sense ROM (Gingerbread)
Incredible (stock) framework - Framework that comes with your phone
IceCream Sense
TeeROM Rockin' Stock
Carbonite Fusion
sic*CENSORED* Sense
Stock+
McSense - Gingersense
Inc Ultimate
Touch Of Blue
Stock OTA 4.06.605.2
Stock GB
Cricket Incredible (NOT for Verizon, only for Cricket!)
Gingerbread Sense 2.1/3.0 Mix
Synergy Rom Nightlies
Nils Business GingerSense 2.1/3.0
Inc2 McTwist
Pure Speed
GingerSense ReMix
Optimized GingerSense
Optimized Shift
Uber GingerSense Unleashed
Evo Shift 4G GingerSense Port
Incredible 2 v 2.1.0
Gingerbread Sense 3.0
Shooter ReWiND 3D
Nils Business GingerSense 3.0
Dub-Shot Espresso
Kingdom Stock
Uber Kingdom
Incredible DoubleShot Espresso
Ace Revolution 3D
Desired Inc HD 3D
OVORene Community ROM
Gingerbread Sense 3.5
Warm TwoPointThree 3.5
MikRunny
Nils Business GingerSense 3.5
Droid Incredible HD XL
Runny Revolution 3D
HTC Bliss Sense 3.5
Sense(less) - These are Sense ROM's with the Sense UI removed/replaced
Incredible (stock) framework - Sense Launcher and UI Removed
Another Senseless Rom
In-Sensitive Minimalist
McSenseless
Gingerbread Sense 3.0 - Sense Launcher and UI Removed
In-Sensitive Dee-Zire
McDesire
Condemned SupraROM
AOSP - Android Open Source Project (ported to the Incredible)
Pure/Customized AOSP
CyanogenMod7 Nightlies - later version + bug fixes from Final
MIUI - iPhone-like ROM in appearance but with the freedom of android
Gingerbread Deck
OMGB
OMFGB
Evervolv
Salvage-Mod BETA
FrostBlur Merge of MOTOblur
Bugless Beast
Condemned B-S - CM7 with modifications
KANG-Pons CM7.2 - CM7 with modifications
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-------- ICE CREAM SANDWICH ROM's --------
-------- This version of android is currently not optimized for our phones. --------
-------- ICS ROM's typically will run slower and have worse battery life than previous versions of android.--------
AOSP - Android Open Source Project (ported to the Incredible)
Pure/Customized AOSP
Abduction ICS
Android Open Kang Project (ProTekk)
Evervolv ICS
ICS-Deck AOKP
ics-deck-inc
OMX - Pure ICS
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-------- These ROM's are no longer being updated by their developers and they run on an older version of Android.--------
With HTC Sense - ROMs based on a stock or ported Sense ROM
Incredible (stock) framework - Framework that comes with your phone
Virtuous
Nils' Business Sense
IncROM
Redemption Rom
Magnolia Final
Carbonite Fusion v.4
Liberation - stock ROM, no carrier branding (bloat/restrictions)
SkyRaider Sense
Evo framework - Framework that comes with the EVO, some say it runs better
Redemptive rEVOlution
Incredibly Re-Engineered
Myn's Warm Two Point Two
Ported Sense's - New Sense UI ported from newer HTC devices
Warm Z TwoPointTwo
Uber Z
Nils' Business Sense - Desire-Z Based
Incredibly Re-Engineered Z
IncDoes Sense "Desire Z"
SUPER-Z Enhanced
HTC Incredible S (Vivo) port
MY TOUCH 4G ROM
Sense(less) - These are Sense ROM's with the Sense UI removed/replaced
Sense Launcher and UI Removed
Sense(less) rEVOlution 2.0 Inc-EVO Hybrid [EVO Sense Framework]
SkyRaider Athena
PhotonDroid (beta)
AOSP - Android Open Source Project (ported to the Incredible)
Pure/Customized AOSP
Ruby
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Performance -and- Other Useful MODS:
* These are mods that either upgrade system structures or tweak settings to provide better performance and/or battery life.
Adrenaline Mod: DOWNLOAD
Supercharged V6: DOWNLOAD
EXT4 all: DOWNLOAD
The Best RAM Optimization: DOWNLOAD (note. if you use adrenaline V13 then you dont need this script because it is now included.)
WiFi Only (disables 3G and 1x radio): DOWNLOAD
CM7 Custom Lockscreen Rings DOWNLOAD
(MOD)(PORT)Beats Audio&Xloud DOWNLOAD
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Other Helpful Links:
List of Kernel's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169150
- Kernel's help decide how much CPU / battery power is used as well as many other complex workings such as memory management and process management.
Every ROM comes with a kernel, but here you can choose which one you like best and combine it with whatever ROM you like best.
List Of Radio's:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/2890-radio-htc-incredible-radios-pb31imgzip-updated-07-sept-2011/
- The radio controls GPS, WiFi, 3G and 1x connections. You will at best only see moderately minor changes in these areas while trying different ones. Possible to increase data speed, GPS lock speed, as well as better battery life.
List of Recoveries:
http://pvillecomp.com/?page_id=28
- A Recovery is a simple program used to flash new software (such as ROM's and KERNELS) to your phone. Your phone should have come with Clockwork after you rooted it, but check here if you want to flash a different one.
List of HBOOT's:
http://pvillecomp.com/?page_id=4
- HBOOT is a core piece of software used to check hardware, initialize software, and can be used to flash other vital pieces of phone software including the radio and recovery.
Important Things to know about your Incredible's battery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
- Explains why your battery level always has a big drop after a full charge
Custom Splash Screens + Boot animations:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=759691
- You can change the way your incredible looks when you boot it up
Android Kitchen - Customize Your UI:
http://uot.dakra.lt/
- Take your android UI into your own hands! Upload your current ROM, and from there you can customize the appearance of your ROM: including colors, textures, effects, icons, and much more. Don't be stuck with a phone that isn't perfect!
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Current Setup
ROM: CyanogenMod 7 Nightlies
Kernel: Incredikernel
Radio: 11.19
Custom Theme by: Android Kitchen
Custom Lockscreen by: Widgetlocker (downloaded from market, customized via various XDA threads)
CPU cap: 883MHZ (done in CM7 Settings)
Launcher: Launcher Pro + (downloaded from market)
Keyboard: Swiftkey X (downloaded form market)
If I said something useful be sure to hit the "Thanks" button! :D
Thanks man! Now I know which roms are available on the incxDD
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
fantastic list, thank you
Looks good. I didn't go over it with a fine comb, but I did notice that you left out Redemption Rom, which is different than Redemptive rEVOlution. And Tiamat is a kernel, not a ROM.
Thanks for this, very helpful. You might want to break the HTC Sense sections up into Sense UI and Z Ports, since there is an important difference between how the ROM's function
EDIT: Mods should sticky this and/or merge with the "Useful Threads" sticky because frankly the current sticky is awful and no where close to being up to date
PonsAsinorem said:
Looks good. I didn't go over it with a fine comb, but I did notice that you left out Redemption Rom, which is different than Redemptive rEVOlution. And Tiamat is a kernel, not a ROM.
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Thanks, didn't even notice- surprised I left that one out.
Fixed and fixed.
Zoon0n said:
You might want to break the HTC Sense sections up into Sense UI and Z Ports, since there is an important difference between how the ROM's function
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Good idea, will do later tonight
Darn. I did something similar just yesterday or maybe the day before, just not with ALL the roms and with a bit of more info on what rom to use for noobs and posted in dinc general, but nobody's replied yet
Might want to update your Ruby link. 2.0.2 (Final build) was released some time back Thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=920633&highlight=ruby
solarpolitiks said:
Might want to update your Ruby link. 2.0.2 (Final build) was released some time back Thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=920633&highlight=ruby
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Done!
Also added "Carbonite Fusion v.4" ROM and organized the 1.0 and 2.0 Sense.
This is great... can we get it stickied? I remember seeing this a while back and then it disappeared. Good resource for people who like me that swap roms every week
FWIW, IncROM has been updated to 1.4.
Great List and Very Helpful! I thought Redemptive REVOlution a ported Sense ROM from the EVO?
-KTDT00
Some Additions
Wonderful iist, and great that they finally made it a sticky. Just a few items to add to the list, possibly:
IncDoes's Desire HD (I know it is a little outdated, but it is still great)
MyTouch Beta v3
And, possibly a link to the thread with the RA recovery images?
All in all, this is an incredible (yes, pun intended) list.
ktdt00 said:
Great List and Very Helpful! I thought Redemptive REVOlution a ported Sense ROM from the EVO?
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It has the EVO framework but Sense UI is the same version as the rest in that category which is why I left it there and not in the ports category. This is kind of a weird ROM that doesn't fit well for either category but I felt it had more of the same attributes that the Stock Sense had than the newer Z sense ports.
alanthemanofchicago said:
Wonderful iist, and great that they finally made it a sticky. Just a few items to add to the list, possibly:
IncDoes's Desire HD (I know it is a little outdated, but it is still great)
MyTouch Beta v3
And, possibly a link to the thread with the RA recovery images?
All in all, this is an incredible (yes, pun intended) list.
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I know right? I was happy to see it stickied when I checked back here this morning
Thanks, added both.
alanthemanofchicago said:
And, possibly a link to the thread with the RA recovery images?
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can you post the link?
POQbum said:
It has the EVO framework but Sense UI is the same version as the rest in that category which is why I left it there and not in the ports category. This is kind of a weird ROM that doesn't fit well for either category but I felt it had more of the same attributes that the Stock Sense had than the newer Z sense ports.
I know right? I was happy to see it stickied when I checked back here this morning
Thanks, added both.
can you post the link?
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RA Recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758874
Ultimate Droid
LithiumMod
Cyaonbread
ShadowROM
Touch of Photons
Stock
Incredibly Re-engineered
Warm Two Point Two
The New Guy
Geared Romage
Carbonite Fusion
Meizu M9 port
Dell Streak port
n_i_x's MIUI port
Gingersuave MIUI
URL="http://heylisten.org/ROM/android/htc/dinc"]HeyListen.org ROM Index[/URL]
Also, IncDoes Desire HD was abandoned a while ago, the Desire Z ports have more features, less bugs, and are more stable. I don't think anyone still uses the DHD version.
I've added a few.
A good 1/3'rd of that list were ones that were already listed here.
Many of them had issues to where I can't put them up because of dead links, or because there was no thread/pics/description, just a file for the ROM.
But the ones I could add I did.
Please change "LiquidMetal" to "LiquidMetal / LiquidLight".
Nice list. Thanks!
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I've tried to rank the popularity of the ROM's by having the more popular ones first in their different categories.
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Curious what criteria you use to evaluate popularity.
Based on the list of ported ROM's I may as well quit even though I have had thousands of downloads.
NilsP said:
Curious what criteria you use to evaluate popularity.
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Combination of OP date, thread views and replies. I put the list together hastily and have been tweaking things to it since I posted it like 2 days ago based on suggestions.
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Well.. I decided the rankings are not a good idea as there's no way to really check peoples ratings on each ROM and no way to see how many people have downloaded each one. So the rankings were just a bad idea in the first place.
I did also notice the Sense ports were poorly ranked, but I think it's best just to leave them all here and let people decide instead of popularity rank having any sort of influence.

Comparison of different custom ROMs?

Is there a thread with a basic comparison of the different ROMs available for the MT4G and what the major differences/advantageous/disadvantageous are?
tmagritte said:
Is there a thread with a basic comparison of the different ROMs available for the MT4G and what the major differences/advantageous/disadvantageous are?
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You should do a little research on your own, most people will flame you for this question seeing how all the info you ask are already on these forums.
You can either A. Check the rom development section and see what all the roms have to offer and compare them from there or B. Flash and test yourself
I was hoping maybe someone had written an introductory guide for noobs that I had missed that might save me a lot of reading/testing. Based on your response, that doesn't seem to be the case, so lots and lots of reading for me it is...
Thanks.
tmagritte said:
I was hoping maybe someone had written an introductory guide for noobs that I had missed that might save me a lot of reading/testing. Based on your response, that doesn't seem to be the case, so lots and lots of reading for me it is...
Thanks.
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No one has sat down and written a guide as far as what ROM has what feeling to it.
Cyanogen is a AOSP ROM. Plain Jane Android, nothing fancy. Just works and does a quick job of it
Iced Glacier is a slimmed down variant of the MySense that comes on the phone
Gorilla, IIRC, is a traditional Sense ROM
and the last popular one is a MiUi (pronounced My You Eye) rom...
I could be wrong on the last two.. but yea... there is alot of reading to see what you like. Typically you will not find write ups on ROMs because of biased opinions.
Here's my quickie breakdown... Just my opinion (I have not used all of them myself)
Froyo based (Android 2.2.x)
HTC Sense/Expresso ROMs:
Stock - stripped down version of the HTC Sense UI, very fast, but filled with T-mobile BLOATWARE, Sense UI experience is limited.
Ice Glacier - same as above with BLOATWARE removed and ROM optimized.
Desire HD/Z/Thunderbolt - FULL Sense UI experience, a bit slower than STOCK, but with lots of Eye Candy... Great for beginner users who wants all the bells and whistles. Desire Z's Sense UI can work in landscape, but because of it, it is also the slowest of all Sense UIs.
CM6, G2 - Your AOSP ROMs (Google ROMs) totally striped down to bare minium.
Very very fast, but without ANY eye candies or fancy UI's. Some like it due to their speed, some hate it because of lack of Eye Candies.
MIUI - This is a Chinese invented UI which very closely resemble Apple's iOS UI. So for former Apple users, this would seem most intuitive to them.
LiquidMetal - This is an Acer Exclusive UI. It is also very fast because the Framework for it is fairly light weight. It is kinda unusual so takes time to get used to it. Some like it because its FRESH some hate it because it is VERY different from Sense UI.
Gingerbread based (Android 2.3.x)
CM7 - AOSP bare minimum Android... Super fast because its the latest greatest, no eye candies but highly customizable with stuff from users and market place....
Anyways, just my 2 cents...
Wow, great summaries, thanks so much!
I had no idea the stock MT4G ROM isn't the full Sense UI...
Me either! What differences are there between stock sense ui on the MT4G and a 'full' version of sense ui on the other roms?
And thanks for that little breakdown, very helpful
faux123 said:
Here's my quickie breakdown... Just my opinion (I have not used all of them myself)
Froyo based (Android 2.2.x)
HTC Sense/Expresso ROMs:
Stock - stripped down version of the HTC Sense UI, very fast, but filled with T-mobile BLOATWARE, Sense UI experience is limited.
Ice Glacier - same as above with BLOATWARE removed and ROM optimized.
Desire HD/Z/Thunderbolt - FULL Sense UI experience, a bit slower than STOCK, but with lots of Eye Candy... Great for beginner users who wants all the bells and whistles. Desire Z's Sense UI can work in landscape, but because of it, it is also the slowest of all Sense UIs.
CM6, G2 - Your AOSP ROMs (Google ROMs) totally striped down to bare minium.
Very very fast, but without ANY eye candies or fancy UI's. Some like it due to their speed, some hate it because of lack of Eye Candies.
MIUI - This is a Chinese invented UI which very closely resemble Apple's iOS UI. So for former Apple users, this would seem most intuitive to them.
LiquidMetal - This is an Acer Exclusive UI. It is also very fast because the Framework for it is fairly light weight. It is kinda unusual so takes time to get used to it. Some like it because its FRESH some hate it because it is VERY different from Sense UI.
Gingerbread based (Android 2.3.x)
CM7 - AOSP bare minimum Android... Super fast because its the latest greatest, no eye candies but highly customizable with stuff from users and market place....
Anyways, just my 2 cents...
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This should be stickied on the rom bible!
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

New to G2, question.

Hey guys,
I'm coming from the Optimus T and am expecting my G2 via UPS tomorrow. I was wondering, what's the best sense rom out there right now? I don't mind if Rosie doesn't rotate with landscape but that would make it better.
Thanks in advance,
Future G2 User.
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Well for me the best sense rom would be magics Disire S port.
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Sense is kinda glitchy you should just use CM7
Cyanogen is great right now. I tried the Virtuous Sense one but it was too buggy
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Cyanogen is great right now. I tried the Virtuous Sense one but it was too buggy
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Never saw any bugs on Virtuous (its mostly stock 1.85 ROM, with a few added features), CM7 on the other hand, had bugs when I used it. It was a while back, but people on here still say CM7 has its share of minor glitches; although its cutting edge, and lots of features, which is why it appeals to so many.
On the other hand, Sense ROMs take up more memory and CPU resources, especially the launcher. So Sense ROMs tend to be a little laggy compared to AOSP (maybe that is what the previous 2 posts mean by "glitchy" and "buggy"). Unless you are already set on getting a Sense ROM, I'd say give the stock AOSP ROM a chance, and see how you like it.
If you still want to try a Sense ROM, Virtuous is the most stable. But its still Froyo based. If you want a Gingerbread Sense ROM, there is lots to choose from, and I can't really say what's "best". Virtuous Fusion is the only GB based Sense ROM I've tried, and while the new Sense 3.0 has some cool features, the constant reloading of the launcher was pretty much a deal breaker. Gingerbread ROMs are basically all ports (and therefore have bugs), and will probably remain that way until HTC releases the "official" Sense Gingerbread ROM, so the developers get their hands on it.
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Never saw any bugs on Virtuous (its mostly stock 1.85 ROM, with a few added features), CM7 on the other hand, had bugs when I used it. It was a while back, but people on here still say CM7 has its share of minor glitches; although its cutting edge, and lots of features, which is why it appeals to so many.
On the other hand, Sense ROMs take up more memory and CPU resources, especially the launcher. So Sense ROMs tend to be a little laggy compared to AOSP (maybe that is what the previous 2 posts mean by "glitchy" and "buggy"). Unless you are already set on getting a Sense ROM, I'd say give the stock AOSP ROM a chance, and see how you like it.
If you still want to try a Sense ROM, Virtuous is the most stable. But its still Froyo based. If you want a Gingerbread Sense ROM, there is lots to choose from, and I can't really say what's "best". Virtuous Fusion is the only GB based Sense ROM I've tried, and while the new Sense 3.0 has some cool features, the constant reloading of the launcher was pretty much a deal breaker. Gingerbread ROMs are basically all ports (and therefore have bugs), and will probably remain that way until HTC releases the "official" Sense Gingerbread ROM, so the developers get their hands on it.
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When the official gingerbread ROM comes out, will we have to do anything special to flash it or would it be the same as flashing any other custom ROM?
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When the official gingerbread ROM comes out, will we have to do anything special to flash it or would it be the same as flashing any other custom ROM?
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you do the same thing you do with flashing any custom rom, but I do suggest you wait for the one that is pre-rooted. (aka wait for it to be released on XDA prepped for flashing)
I tried the official Gingerbread leak for a bit last week. Its just a *touch* slower than CM7 and had some really annoying quirks about it. Back to CM7 I went, and I couldn't be happier.
Welcome! I would recommend the following roms if you are looking for stable and (relatively) bug free roms.
AOSP: Virtuous G-Lite 1.0.1, this is a Gingerbread build
Sense: Virtuous 1.0.2, this is a Froyo build
Both are from the same dev.
They have a GB version of sense called Virtuous Fusion, but I found that build to be a tad slow with the launcher reloading often.
Have fun!
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What is the "best" ROM, what has what?

Hey Guys & Girls,
I have a HTC Desire Z, I am currently running the MIUI Osimod ROM and it's starting to lag plus there are a few little things what bug me and annoy me however it is quite a good ROM
I'm looking for a "better" ROM, I don't know how to pick between each ROM, if there was 2 or 3 ROM's I would of simply tried each one but there are LOADS of ROM's.
I wish there was a rule and a specific topic layout enabling novices to see the major differences between ROM's because its so hard, a simple tickbox system would be good enough to help compare.
If you have any suggestions for a ROM for me to use, tell me your favourite ROM and why you think it's better than others or the reasons you like it over others...
If you could do this, it would be much appreciated
Thanks
- Hyflex
Hyflex said:
Hey Guys & Girls,
I have a HTC Desire Z, I am currently running the MIUI Osimod ROM and it's starting to lag plus there are a few little things what bug me and annoy me however it is quite a good ROM
I'm looking for a "better" ROM, I don't know how to pick between each ROM, if there was 2 or 3 ROM's I would of simply tried each one but there are LOADS of ROM's.
I wish there was a rule and a specific topic layout enabling novices to see the major differences between ROM's because its so hard, a simple tickbox system would be good enough to help compare.
If you have any suggestions for a ROM for me to use, tell me your favourite ROM and why you think it's better than others or the reasons you like it over others...
If you could do this, it would be much appreciated
Thanks
- Hyflex
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OMGOMGOMGOMG NOT THIS AGAIN!!!!!! As stated in other threads, the best rom comes down to user preference. Like my fav is virtuous unity because i like sense 3.0 UI
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evilcuber said:
OMGOMGOMGOMG NOT THIS AGAIN!!!!!! As stated in other threads, the best rom comes down to user preference. Like my fav is virtuous unity because i like sense 3.0 UI
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If you noticed... I said "best" and said: "tell me your favourite ROM and why you think it's better than others or the reasons you like it over others"
Meaning, I understand and know its personal opinions / user preference and am saying "best" not as in which ones the fastest, most features...etc but want to know what ROM's people are using and what they like about them.
Simple
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If you noticed... I said "best" and said: "tell me your favourite ROM and why you think it's better than others or the reasons you like it over others"
Meaning, I understand and know its personal opinions / user preference and am saying "best" not as in which ones the fastest, most features...etc but want to know what ROM's people are using and what they like about them.
Simple
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Well you should change the thread name from the best rom to your fav rom. Also you could check out reviews on each rom to learn more, you could also read the threads for each rom to get ppls opinions
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If you try and flash all of them and experiment them out, you'll find out which one you like the best.
I prefer the sense based widgets, so I stick more with the sense-rom sides.
I have always been a CM user, but with the DZ I've felt that I don't really need CM or CM based roms because it's speedy enough on sense. Can't say for sure with virtuous unity, feels like it uses a bit more resources and battery. But that's just my opinion.
how come there is no poll somewhere that shows how many ppl are at what rom...
anyways its definitely a personal preference... i went from Sense 2.0 to CM to OSI_MIUI and now back at Sense 3... virtuous unity is stable and fast enough (with overclocking) havn't had any problems with it...
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how come there is no poll somewhere that shows how many ppl are at what rom...
anyways its definitely a personal preference... i went from Sense 2.0 to CM to OSI_MIUI and now back at Sense 3... virtuous unity is stable and fast enough (with overclocking) havn't had any problems with it...
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I just tried unity and its slow once i have my apps installed it was slow and my im apps were disconnecting (restarting)
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I just tried unity and its slow once i have my apps installed it was slow and my im apps were disconnecting (restarting)
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Was this an earlier version of unity?
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Was this an earlier version of unity?
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I used 1.31, the most current non beta and I feel the lag at times. Virtuous sense feels a lot better.
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kaijura said:
I used 1.31, the most current non beta and I feel the lag at times. Virtuous sense feels a lot better.
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It was latest, I never download old stuff and Im using the G-Lite version atm its pretty bare, I want to have the reboot options and the toggles tab (when u open notifications) also I want to stop the stupid "USB Connected" message popping up its driving me insane lol
Love those thread, because its hard too choose.
Tried cm7, but no sense ui.
Tried virtuous sense 2.0, but its 2.0
Love the unity 1.31.
recently upgrade to unity 2.37, but tons of bugs.
About virtuous doubleshot?
oVeRdOsE. said:
Love those thread, because its hard too choose.
Tried cm7, but no sense ui.
Tried virtuous sense 2.0, but its 2.0
Love the unity 1.31.
recently upgrade to unity 2.37, but tons of bugs.
About virtuous doubleshot?
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'tons of bugs'? Such as?
I moved away from Unity when it moved to Sense 3.0 because it was so unstable on my DZ - I guess because of the memory requirements.
I used Virtuous Sense 2 for a good few weeks, but I really wanted Sense 3.
Tried a few others (doubleshot, Honeysense etc.) but now Unity 2.37 is out I have had barely any problems - fully recommended.
I've used them all and Bulletproof's MIUI Rom is the best in my opinion. Then again it all comes down to preference.
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I actually enjoy these types of threads because it keeps us users on our toes. At the same time, if the Dev's browse these threads, perhaps they'll be able to compare their featureset with another ROM's featureset. That being said, here is my opinion if you haven't already chosen a ROM yet.
Sense: I LOVE SenseUI. The native Facebook integration, intelligent dialer and the host of intuitive widgets is great to have. It is THE go-to ROM if you want a plug-and-play ROM. Setup time is minimal and though Sense does take up more resources than say CM, AOSP-based or MIUI, it is the tradeoff you make to have convenience. My SenseUI recommendation would be Virtuous Sense 2.0 hands down. Doubleshot and Expresso ports are nice but they're not true SenseUI. SenseUI 3.0 (i.e. Virtuous Unity, etc...) is nice but you need to sacrifice more than system resources to run that properly (i.e. if you have the G2, you need to convert to the DesireZ HBOOT; might have to OC more to get SenseUI 3.0 to run smoother, etc...).
AOSP: I ran AOSP based ROM's in the past and the best advantage is SPEED. A typical AOSP ROM is about 1/3 the size of the equivalent SenseUI ROM so you'll have tons of space to hold your apps and other stuff. AOSP is nice if you have a specific app to use for your different types of integration. My recommendation for AOSP based ROMs would be either CM7 (Haven't used before) or Virtuous G-Lite (Used and loved). The only reason I left AOSP (for now) is because I want the Facebook and other types of integration and convenience that SenseUI offers in one package rather than find equivalent apps to do the same thing.
MIUI: Think of this as AOSP with an iPhone-esque skin; easily customizable from a UI standpoint. This makes sense because MIUI stands for "My UI" according to my research. Alot of the features in the various MIUI builds are similar to that of AOSP ROMs just with added UI customizeability. Each flavor does add or subtract some features, but the baseline experience should be similar throughout. My recommendation for MIUI would be the Official MIUI build for the DesireZ/G2 from MIUI.us.
It seems that you understand (surprising that many don't) that whether you like or dislike a ROM is completely personal. Myself, for example, love to have SenseUI. Others will swear profanity at SenseUI and kick my arse for loving it. I hope you can find the ROM that suits you!
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I agree with everything you stated, ad I have tried all ROMs uve stated. I also love sense ui and features hence stuck to virtuous sense 2.0. If it wasnt for that i would straight head to miui as it then be customized to my demand.
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hmm stock pre-rooted ota works great for me and fast!
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'tons of bugs'? Such as?
I moved away from Unity when it moved to Sense 3.0 because it was so unstable on my DZ - I guess because of the memory requirements.
I used Virtuous Sense 2 for a good few weeks, but I really wanted Sense 3.
Tried a few others (doubleshot, Honeysense etc.) but now Unity 2.37 is out I have had barely any problems - fully recommended.
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I'll post some pictures in the dev section about my bugs. I hope its something easy to fix because so far is the fastest rom I've tried.
Been trying to find a ROM that lasts the whole day, and not even g-lite lasted me more than 12 hours. Not sure why since all I do is text, run on edge all the time, below 50% brightness, no background data.
I tried these ones from virtuous 'cause I like Sense much. But... they had same "feature", after few days and software updates I started to get force closes from acore and gapps and couldn't use UI/phone at all. Even rebooting to recovery was pain in the ass. I tried factoryreset and even re-install on top of old one without wipe, but didn't help. CM7 going strong and steady now.
I hate to be repetitious, but as long as these "best ROM" threads keep popping up, I'll keep saying it. OP mentions "favorite ROM" in the body of his post, but "best ROM" in the title. Really, "favorite" is a better terms, as there is no "best" ROM. Everyone has different needs, tastes, and preferences. Calling one "best" or "better" than others is an insult to the generous devs who work so hard making these ROMs for us.

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