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is there anyway to start the elf without it's battery like connecting another stuff to the pins or anything ?
Ask captainstu72 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656270
JTAG may not be the way forward, but even then we needed to have the battery in as I don't think the LPT was providing as much as what was needed.
What do you need to do this for? Is your battery dead/lost? Or has something else happened to it.
You could get a set of batteries, and make your own battery pack, but you'd need to make sure the voltage/amps supplied were the same to make sure it didn't kill anything I guess.
Not sure how far to go into this...
In theory, I say theory as I have never done this.
Get 3 1.2 volt NiCad or NiMH battery cells, wire in series (don't solder to the batteries!) Link the cells by using some wire, stripped at the ends, and tape on to make it secure. Attach a + and - wier to either end of the pack. Check with a multimeter to make sure you're getting a nice voltage, hopefully around 3.6v.
Connect wires to phone + and - battery terminals either wrap it round, or solder it on, the choice is yours.
Depending on how far you want to go with this, or if you feel crazy, you could do this with a few lemons. Not sure how many you'd need, as it would depend on the voltage you get from these "voltaic" cells. Maybe about 4-6 would do. If you've never done this, you'll need a zinc terminal (nail?) and a copper terminal (a coin for example) and stick these in the lemon. Copper = + and zine = -.
Really not sure if I have helped, or made things confusing. Either way, I'm not sure one what was required, and for some reason went off on one with random babble. I have a habit for that...
I still don't know the need for this... but!
To take this even further. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556448
They made a pretty good thread about this on the Blue Angel section - I remembered this hitting the portal a while back.
(In my previous post I said don't solder to the batteries, you can if you want - I prefer not to due to this way if one cell blows, its easier to remove, or repurpose at a later date. I would make a connector out of wire and do it that way - Had to do this on the weekend to fix something for my fiancée. If you do solder, be very careful, don't let the cell get to hot, I know thats obvious, but seriously, I can't stress enough to not make cells hot, it will either die, or blow.)
I still would need to know what your issue is before I can offer more help.
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I still don't know the need for this... but!
To take this even further. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556448
They made a pretty good thread about this on the Blue Angel section - I remembered this hitting the portal a while back.
(In my previous post I said don't solder to the batteries, you can if you want - I prefer not to due to this way if one cell blows, its easier to remove, or repurpose at a later date. I would make a connector out of wire and do it that way - Had to do this on the weekend to fix something for my fiancée. If you do solder, be very careful, don't let the cell get to hot, I know thats obvious, but seriously, I can't stress enough to not make cells hot, it will either die, or blow.)
I still would need to know what your issue is before I can offer more help.
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i can't thank you enough .. the thing is the battery is dead and i've searched almost every where here and i couldn't find it -.- but i'll do some of ur methodes and thx very much
I have seen some on ebay before - but theres the whole debate on if it is legit or not. Don't forget crocodile clips can also be used to connect the battery packs to the phone. If you're only going to get your data off, this will be ideal.
If you need any help, just let me know Glad I could help so far!
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can any1 help me out here i just bought an 8525 for 80 off a co-worker he didnt want it because it keeps turning off on him i think its a few loose connections...theres a bit of play in with the battery but anyhow changed batteries same thing so any one know what part i should be replacing and also where i can get parts for this phone. i have tried looking on the site that i use for my other phones but all i find are screens and black housings so if you guys can help me out i'd love it
anyone im looking at it right now and all seems well and i tested the battery on a different fone and everything is green just cant figure it out. also just found out that my jogwheel is broken
That could explain why the co-worker sold it to you for 80 bucks.. .. you might be able to find parts on Ebay .. see if anyone is selling one with a busted screen or something..
thats exactly ehy i got for 80 i knew what it was just hoping for an easy fix i do repairs tho so no biggie just gotta find the parts thanks ill start looking once my ass friend gets off myspace!!!
It can't be a "loose connection" unless the solder from the battery connectors came loose because he battery connectors are connected right to the board.
thats one thing i noticed also the prong look like they have been squished down almost flat instaed of < they are more - but not that bad and there is quite a bit of playu from the battery compared to my good 8525 oh well maybe i can come up on a third and swap out parts. thanks for the help guys any other suggestion i have already kinda fixed the prongs. and now the phone wont even turn on this suck but i know this can be fixed
hey does any1 have a broken hermes they wouldent mind getting rid of i need parts or if ppl wanna be nice to me and my thin wallet and donate their old broken hermes to me i would really appreciate it
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hey does any1 have a broken hermes they wouldent mind getting rid of i need parts or if ppl wanna be nice to me and my thin wallet and donate their old broken hermes to me i would really appreciate it
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I dealt with a similar case a while back. Going off randomly. In his case it turned out it was the battery connections. They had lost some of their spring tension and he was unwilling to try bending them out a little for fear of causing more damage. In the end we decided that he would try placing a strip of card between the battery and the casing on the side opposite to the battery connections. ie. to press the battery more firmly against the connectors. How thick it would need to be would depend on how squashed the connectors are.
It worked for him and he decided just to leave it in place.
Mike
@Gyngabread Man
If you cant fix it let me know. I need the vibrate motor. And no im not kidding
My wiz (which I love) has developed a loose usb port. It is out of warranty (of course!), and it is not the first MDA to have this issue (I returned 3 over that past almost 2 years for the usb coming loose). It has not fallen out yet, but charging is a chore, as I need to have my plug in the usb in a special way to get it to connect and charge.
Long story short...
Is there a physical fix I can do on my wiz? Since it is not under warranty, I am not too concerned about taking my MDA apart...so...
Can someone who has had this issue tell me in a step by step manner, how to take the MDA apart and "tighten" the MDA port???
I am hoping to hold out long enough to get the Kaiser...if Tmo ever releases it.
Thank you in advance.
**I have search this forum and even googled...people list sites for $60-100,or say to take the MDA apart and solder it back...I'm broke and wanna go with the second option, but haven't found a step by step about how to actually take the wiz apart and re-solder the usb port**
I'm gonna be unhelpful so if you want to get mad at me, do it now.
I ask what I'm sure others are asking themselves: WHAT have you been doing to your MDAs where the usb port has been getting loose?! Three times?!
I ask not to be embarassing but to help other users from prevent damage to their devices.
Azazello said:
I'm gonna be unhelpful so if you want to get mad at me, do it now.
I ask what I'm sure others are asking themselves: WHAT have you been doing to your MDAs where the usb port has been getting loose?! Three times?!
I ask not to be embarassing but to help other users from prevent damage to their devices.
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Yes, I am quite pissed at you now...
The first one was a replacement for a crappy refurb they'd sent me, and I sent it back immediately as the port came to me loose. The second one came loose, I believe, just by charging it, syncing it, etc (I went through a phase where I changed OS's every 5 minutes...I am an addict, I admit it). The third one came loose (I suspect) when I was charging it in my car and had to hit the brakes hard, and it went flying to the floorboards. This one I have no clue. It worked fine until 2 days ago. I went to charge it last night and noticed it being VERY tempermental, and a bit loose. I would like to fix it before it gets to the point of being complete crap.
All the rumors say that Tmo USA will be releasing the Kaiser soon, and I really want that phone, and would rather not pay the $100 or so bucks swapping out my MDA through insurance, just to have the Kaiser released 4 days later (Murphy's Law affects me a lot).
So.... Help please!!!!
Ok...so I got my hands on the MDA repair manual...and after some head-scratching my husband and I managed to take the wizard apart. Luckily, only the 4 tiny bracket holding the usb port in broke loose, so it was a matter of soldering them back on. My MDA is back to working again. Yay (and whew!)
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Ok...so I got my hands on the MDA repair manual...and after some head-scratching my husband and I managed to take the wizard apart. Luckily, only the 4 tiny bracket holding the usb port in broke loose, so it was a matter of soldering them back on. My MDA is back to working again. Yay (and whew!)
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I had this same problem... Slamming on the brakes when your MDA is connected to the car charger is never a good idea...
Trust me when I say this though. I wrecked my Integra GSR swerving to avoid hitting a deer. The impact of the car hitting the curb severed all the contacts on the USB port and now the USB port has fallen out of the phone completely...
So all I need to do is solder those 4 connectors and make sure the port is positioned correctly over those 5 tiny connectors and I should be fine? My soldering skills are somewhat sub-par so I don't want to risk it unless I know exactly what needs to be done before I do it. I'm sure you can understand that though.
PS>> I too am only hoping that I can keep my MDA working long enough to get a Kaiser. I have been saving but am not quite there yet...
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I had this same problem... Slamming on the brakes when your MDA is connected to the car charger is never a good idea...
Trust me when I say this though. I wrecked my Integra GSR swerving to avoid hitting a deer. The impact of the car hitting the curb severed all the contacts on the USB port and now the USB port has fallen out of the phone completely...
So all I need to do is solder those 4 connectors and make sure the port is positioned correctly over those 5 tiny connectors and I should be fine? My soldering skills are somewhat sub-par so I don't want to risk it unless I know exactly what needs to be done before I do it. I'm sure you can understand that though.
PS>> I too am only hoping that I can keep my MDA working long enough to get a Kaiser. I have been saving but am not quite there yet...
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Well none of my connectors broke...luckily...so on that matter I'm not sure...however, I had my hubby dismantle my MDA (which I won't lie, was a real b*tch...you think you're breaking it) just to when the port was exposed...he then readjusted the 4 connectors then using silver solder and a gun, made 4 pinpoint attachments. Be very careful...he let the gun get too close and slightly melted the plastic down by the battery release tab...no real damage, but if you aren't careful...
Hopefully someone can better answer you about the procedure...as I said, mine had only come loose and didn't actually break yet.
Good luck on the Kaiser...I'm saving too!!!
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Well none of my connectors broke...luckily...so on that matter I'm not sure...however, I had my hubby dismantle my MDA (which I won't lie, was a real b*tch...you think you're breaking it) just to when the port was exposed...he then readjusted the 4 connectors then using silver solder and a gun, made 4 pinpoint attachments. Be very careful...he let the gun get too close and slightly melted the plastic down by the battery release tab...no real damage, but if you aren't careful...
Hopefully someone can better answer you about the procedure...as I said, mine had only come loose and didn't actually break yet.
Good luck on the Kaiser...I'm saving too!!!
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Thanks. I'm going to take the chance and attempt soldering it back in place and just leave the 5 pin connectors touching where they're supposed to be soldered to. It's already broken and won't even hold a charge right now so really I have nothing to lose. Worst comes to worst, it won't work after I'm done but then again, it doesn't work now.
Wish me luck!!
MDA - HTC Wizard - 8125 Broken USB Port Fix Guide or Repair Manual needed
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Ok...so I got my hands on the MDA repair manual...and after some head-scratching my husband and I managed to take the wizard apart. Luckily, only the 4 tiny bracket holding the usb port in broke loose, so it was a matter of soldering them back on. My MDA is back to working again. Yay (and whew!)
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Seems this is a definite design / manufacturing flaw considering ALL of these USB ports seem to break within an unrealistic time frame.
Help please, still looking for MDA /Wizard repair manual. Know where I can find it?? 10Q
Here you are:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=259242&page=6#post1083526
Some guys charge this file for US$7.99....- -"
let me know how your repair attempt goes. I'm in the exact same situation. Mine isn't completely broken, but it takes LOTS of fiddling to get it to charge, and I can't get an activesync connection at all. Because it still charges, though, I'm guessing that its not completely broken off which will make my repair job slightly easier....
My USB Repair experience
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2012482#post2012482
This is an unusual post and request, I know, but if my idea could become a reality, it would make the shift even better.
I find it difficult to give up using the evo since I bought the extended battery and back cover at a corporate sprint store. I can get a full day out of one charge with maybe 40% battery left at bedtime. Supposedly the evo and shift use the same batteries and it would be awesome to use the bigger battery on the shift. The only problem is the battery cover. I lack the knowledge and skills to do it but I was trying to think of how it might be done. I would guess a mold would have to be done with the stock cover and modify it to extend enough for the thicker battery. I wonder if a 3d printer could create this? Unless it was mass produced, the cost would probably be very high.
I'm pretty sure that the terminals of the batteries are on different sides between the evo and the shift...although I could be wrong
I will check again when I get home but I thought I read they were the same. I think I may have looked at them and they might have been the same. I forget so I am not 100% sure.
Yeah the battery just has to flipped upside down to work
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I'm pretty sure that the terminals of the batteries are on different sides between the evo and the shift...although I could be wrong
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flip the battery over and it works just fine. Terminals match up, it's all in what you call "up" on the battery.
As far as extended cover, I tried to fabricate my own, didn't work out so well. Hahaha
I just checked by flipping the extended battery over and putting it into the shift. It will not work because the phone contacts are not touching the battery terminals. The thickness of the battery is the problem. Standard batteries will work via the flipping method but extended will not. Too bad!
I do not know what the two center terminals are used for but the positive and negative are in the right places. Depending on what the middle two do, it could work or not or f something up. I do not know and are not going to try.
A friend dropped their HD2 from a quad bike. Not sure of the cosmetic damage yet but he says it no longer works, that the cable has disconnected from the motherboard. However, i don't think he has stripped it down so no idea how he would know that.
So, presuming it looks ok, is there anything to look for in repairing this? Are they easy to fix or is a knock like this likely to have damaged it beyond repair?
I have yet to see it but i presume there is no sign of life as opposed to any sort of 'erratic' behaviour.
I have a HD2, i am just seeing if it is fixable as wifey wants one.
i also damaged my hd2 so i searched a lot for info.
there are some good of guides on the web but this is my favorite:
http://pocketnow.com/hardware-1/official-htc-hd2-disassembly-assembly-training-videos-leaked
i dropped mine quite severely, massive multiple cracks all up the screen, gps no longer works, but otherwise its worked fine for 8 months now.
I wouldnt kow what to look for inside, but two things come to mind.
1st - teh battery pins bend easily, so i can imagine a battery flying out might easily do that, so check that.
2nd - the official htc training stripdown video is on youtube, might be worth watching that a few times before and during stripdown.
I already found the excellent strip down video and feel confident in dismantling it. I just have no idea what to check and/or replace. Thanks for the tips though guys...
Check for power, i.e. bent battery pins, disconnected ribbon cables. Look for obvious signs of breakage (cracked CPU, etc.)
Apart from that, haul it to someone who's got better equipment.
Good luck!
Ok so I was trying to wire in my car charger in a nice tidy way. I'm not a noob at car wiring, having done loads of car pc projects etc.
Due to rushing and being a moron I accidentally hooked the charger directly to a 12v line instead of using the adapter to convert it to 5v. It was only for a couple of seconds before I realised and pulled the phone out of the holder.
Since then I've noticed some strange behaviour on the phone. It runs hot, freezes up when unlocking, drains pretty fast and keep randomly switching to landscape and staying there until a reboot.
I've done a full wipe (CM10.1) and am leaving it charging at the moment on the clean rom and it seems better. Not hot and not locking up or anything.
What I need to know is how can I test and be sure of the situation. Is there a battery test tool or app that will monitor temperatures I should use. I'm prepared to send it for repair (and foot the bill for my stupidity) but I don't want to send it off for repair until I know it needs it.
Thanks
The power supply inside the N4 surely uses power regulator. There may be also some protection diode to prevent from overshoot or overstress (this is the case here).
Still if the regulator was in a unstable state for a while, this may explain your strange behavior. If it has been irreversibly damaged (can be the case if the input voltage was above the absolute max rating), the output supplying the Snapdragon chip may not be what it should, causing erratic bahaviour.
I don’t think there is an easy way to check, except maybe taking it apart and measure the output voltage of the power supply circuit inside the N4…. Which seems hard without the proper equipment….
If you still experience thee random bug, maybe sending it back could help.
Well it looks like something is very wrong. After a couple of hours sitting on the standard rom I decided to install GSam battery monitor to keep an eye on the temp and when I tried to unlock... same thing. Stuck on landscape and froze up on the unlock screen.
It's now switched off and charging but I just booted to recovery (TWRP) to see the charge level and it's only 26% after 2 hours! I'll leave it for the rest of the day, reset battery stats and see what happens but I'm pretty sure it's fubar.
The power supply circuit seems to be dead. It is no longer charging the battery the way it should. I don't have that much knowledge on the hardware, so I think i can't say more about your issue....
Good luck in any case !
Spoke to Google, they are sending a replacement out in 3-5 working days. That's pretty good service. They agree that the charging circuit is ****ed (not quite the words they used) so a replacement is needed. I am now in the laughable position of putting the phone in the fridge to keep it cool enough to allow me to wirelessly copy my backups and data to my PC without it rebooting itself!
Thank god for Titanium, nandroid and samba fileshare!
Well that's good news. Glad to see they came to the same conclusion
Cheers
Now I have to work out how to flash it back to standard without adb or fastboot (the usb plug doesn't work for PC connection).
Awesome. Found this most excellent post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34749844&postcount=2
Followed it and now I have a stock, unrooted, and locked N4 ready to go back to Google.
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Spoke to Google, they are sending a replacement out in 3-5 working days. That's pretty good service.
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Did you tell them you connected it to a car battery?
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Did you tell them you connected it to a car battery?
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im guessing no.
They didn't ask, I just explained the problem and symptoms. I'm not trying to rip them off or anything. I'm happy to pay for repairs
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They didn't ask, I just explained the problem and symptoms.
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Ford: "Hello, Ford customer care. How may I help you."
Customer: "I just bought a new Mustang and it was working perfectly, but now it won't start."
Ford: "I see. What happens when you try and start your Mustang?"
Customer: "Nothing."
Ford: "Really? Nothing? It won't turn over, or you don't hear a click or anything?"
Customer: "No. Nothing."
Ford: "Hmmm... Do you remember anything out of the ordinary prior to it not starting?"
Customer: "Oh... do you mean the tree?"
It's a bit cheeky I suppose but worth a shot. Maybe I'm a bad person but I'm also a poor one
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I'm not trying to rip them off or anything. I'm happy to pay for repairs
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My point is... if you didn't bother to tell Google you connected your charging port to a car battery, did you really expect them to ask if you did? That is about as likely as Ford asking you if you hit a tree just before your car stopped starting. Neither would be considered reasonable behavior.
I agree with your assessment that Google has excellent customer service. It would be a shame to see it change due to hundreds of people sending back devices they damaged due to their own actions... and from reading posts in these forums, this happens a lot.
If you're really not trying to "rip them off or anything", why not be a little more forthcoming about you frying it by connecting it directly to a car battery?
XDA is actually full of fools like the OP. They cost phone makers more money than any other demographic customer. It's no wonder why insurance cost is high with ridiculous deductible. I also don't blame phone makers to what to lock bootloaders to keep idiots on XDA away from their phones.
We actually have people on here that think XDA'ers are a valuable asset to phone makers when really we're not.
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You're right. I'll call them back in the morning give them the details, just hope that split second of stupidity doesn't cost me a whole new phone.
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You're right. I'll call them back in the morning give them the details, just hope that split second of stupidity doesn't cost me a whole new phone.
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Did you call?
He will.
Right after the shipping confirmation email.
I did and they said it'll be an out of warranty repair and gave me a number for LG in the UK instead who deal with those. They've emailed me shipping details to send it to them. Once they get it, they'll inspect it then call me with a price.
Anyone have any experience of this kind of repair, to give me a an idea how much to expect?
Well, if a component is dead (which seems to be the case) rework can be expensive. They will have to un-solder the component (can be easy, can be hard if it is a BGA for example) without damaging the rest of the motherboard. In this kind of devices we don't have much space, so I guess they have a specific tool to do that.
When they build the motherboard it is much easier, as all the components see the reflow at the same time.