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I guess I missed this over the weekend and I am looking for the original install that I dont need to have root for. I have been reading over the threads here and in the Dev forum and I am not seeing any links to the download for Non-Root users.
I am to much of a ***** to root my phone. i spent way to much cash on it and i am too worried something will go wrong.
So here is want I am asing for
A. The original non root install with instructions on how to do it
or
B. Someone to help walk me through the process of rooting and getting FroYo 2.2 set up on my phone.
Please shoot me a PM if your willing to help out. I am just way to worried if I do this without someone who knows what they are doing I am going to screw up my phone, and my wife would never let me buy another one ...lol
Can somsone help out a fellow Dev, thanks
Sorry I can't post links but here you go
androidandme.com/2010/05/news/how-to-manually-install-android-2-2-on-your-nexus-one/
Ya just found it buried in a thread
Thanks
See if I would have spent another 10 minutes searching I would have found it without having to ask ...lol
Got to remember to scan threads for 30 minutes not 20 before asking ...lol
Or use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6043779#post6043779
(Or the Root/2.2 links in my sig.)
Okay, I'll give you the general idea, as I understand it:
The FRF50 ROM that was leaked from Google is exclusively for ERE27 Builds only. Unless that is the native build on your phone, you will not be able to apply that as is.
Paul O'Brien, over at Modaco, repacked it so that it can be flashed with any current ROMs. Though he's said that there are no conditions, there in fact are a few stipulations to be aware of.
-If you have never unlocked your bootloader, you won't be able to flash anything at all. Something to think about. There's a few threads here dedicated to this topic alone. It voids your warranty so that is why some people are holding off and waiting for the official OTA update to be released.
-Though it's true that you don't have to be rooted to flash Paul's repack, unless you have ERE27 stock, you need to flash using one of the custom recovery images. And in order to flash your recovery.img, you need to be rooted. So you need to have had rooted before.
So the steps, from stock, would be:
(1) Unlock your bootloader, via flashboot.
(2) Flash superuser to your boot.img (aka rooting)
(3) Flash a custom recovery to recovery.img (I use RA)
(4) Flash Paul's FRF50 repack using said recovery image.
I'm sorry I can't post the links to the relavant posts, but my status as a member doesn't allow me to. Hope this helped clear some things up for you.
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Or use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6043779#post6043779
(Or the Root/2.2 links in my sig.)
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Paul, is that Avatar a picture of YOU?
OMG theres a search feature!!!
Really OMG I didnt know this!
I guess me saying I searched threads and the site for 20 minutes was something you missed.
But thanks to all who actually decided to help and not be another one of these "USE SEARCH" people.
I respect the work you do for us here Paul, but come on man. Read before making a post like that ....lol
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Paul, is that Avatar a picture of YOU?
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All I wil say is:
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LOL ...........
you don't need to root to install froyo and you don't need to hook up your nexus to a pc. my method is pretty simple and it works.
edit: I shouldn't say it's my method. Its actully a backdoor to installing froyo.
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Okay, I'll give you the general idea, as I understand it:
The FRF50 ROM that was leaked from Google is exclusively for ERE27 Builds only. Unless that is the native build on your phone, you will not be able to apply that as is.
Paul O'Brien, over at Modaco, repacked it so that it can be flashed with any current ROMs. Though he's said that there are no conditions, there in fact are a few stipulations to be aware of.
-If you have never unlocked your bootloader, you won't be able to flash anything at all. Something to think about. There's a few threads here dedicated to this topic alone. It voids your warranty so that is why some people are holding off and waiting for the official OTA update to be released.
-Though it's true that you don't have to be rooted to flash Paul's repack, unless you have ERE27 stock, you need to flash using one of the custom recovery images. And in order to flash your recovery.img, you need to be rooted. So you need to have had rooted before.
So the steps, from stock, would be:
(1) Unlock your bootloader, via flashboot.
(2) Flash superuser to your boot.img (aka rooting)
(3) Flash a custom recovery to recovery.img (I use RA)
(4) Flash Paul's FRF50 repack using said recovery image.
I'm sorry I can't post the links to the relavant posts, but my status as a member doesn't allow me to. Hope this helped clear some things up for you.
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Okay, there's a lot of good info out there mixed in with a lot of mis-information.
Your steps will work BUT:
I prefer to do it this way:
Unlock the boot loader via fastboot
Flash Amon_RA 170 recovery for Nexus One
Do a nandroid Backup
Flash your ROM of choice (Modaco's FROYO in this case)
If you are running stock recovery, you CAN flash, but only Google's updates. If you have a T-mobile N1 this may work for you without unlocking the bootloader by flashing the Google Froyo Release with the stock recovery:
Google Froyo Release
You must be on release ERE27 for this to work.
Here's a link to some instructions on how to use the stock recovery program:
jp_macaroni's thread
I suspect that since most people have already rooted or cannot get to ERE27, Paul's guide is the best way to go for them.
If you are running a custom recovery, you can flash custom updates, but NOT Google's updates intended for any stock phone/firmware level.
You don't need to root (root access) to the current ROM before flashing a custom ROM. You only need to unlock the bootloader and install a custom recovery image.
jcohenlv said:
OMG theres a search feature!!!
Really OMG I didnt know this!
I guess me saying I searched threads and the site for 20 minutes was something you missed.
But thanks to all who actually decided to help and not be another one of these "USE SEARCH" people.
I respect the work you do for us here Paul, but come on man. Read before making a post like that ....lol
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Yeah you know, everyone is new once. It's easy to sort out the tripe from the real deal when you've been around the block once or twice. Paul is doing his best to be helpful and not cause more confusion.
The problem isn't that people can't search so much as it is that searches yield too much conflicting information, so lets not jump down people's throats when they ask for a point of clarification. Instead, lets start asking moderators to sticky good info and pulling redundant/bad info so that searches are more meaningful. The number of new threads in here because of the Froyo release is mind numbingly high. Let's all try to exercise some patience.
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Okay, there's a lot of good info out there mixed in with a lot of mis-information.
Your steps will work BUT:
I prefer to do it this way:
Unlock the boot loader via fastboot
Flash Amon_RA 170 recovery for Nexus One
Do a Nadroid Backup
Flash your ROM of choice (Modaco's FROYO in this case)
If you are running stock recovery, you CAN flash, but only Google's updates. If you have a T-mobile N1 this may work for you without unlocking the bootloader:
If you are running a custom recovery, you can flash custom updates, but NOT Google's updates intended for any stock phone/firmware level.
You don't need to root (root access) to the current ROM before flashing a custom ROM. You only need to unlock the bootloader and install a custom recovery image.
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I'm not disagreeing with you, but as far as I know, yes, you do have to root in order to flash Amon_RA Recovery to your phone. If that's not correct, I apologize for spreading misinformation.
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I'm not disagreeing with you, but as far as I know, yes, you do have to root in order to flash Amon_RA Recovery to your phone. If that's not correct, I apologize for spreading misinformation.
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You only need to unlock the bootloader. You do not need root.
Unlocking the boot loader allows installation of an alternate recovery, which allows you to install custom software to the existing ROM or to install a custom ROM. It's updating the ROM that allows you to gain root access, not unlocking the boot loader. It goes in this order:
> Unlock boot loader (void warranty - still not rooted)
> Install custom recovery
> nandroid backup (recommended/optional)
> Update ROM (for root access - or not)
The original instructions worked perfect
All that was needed was to change the name to update.zip load it on the root of the SD card then but the phone in bootloader and load recovery from SD.
Took about 5 minutes.
Once the phone came up it did a few things and took about another 5 minutes to chill on the processes then I was able to use the phone without any problems.
So for those interested here are the exact steps:
This is for NON Rooted T-Mobile Version!!!!
To manually install Android 2.2 on the Nexus One, perform the following steps:
1. Download the official Android 2.2 firmware for the Nexus One.
2. Copy the file to your microSD card and name it update.zip (newb warning: not update.zip.zip)
3. Power off your phone.
4. Hold down the VOLUME DOWN button and power it back on.
5. The phone will now search for files like PB00IMG.zip, etc. This is normal. Scroll down to recovery (using Volume Down Key) and press the POWER button.
6. When you see the “/!\” symbol, press the POWER button and the Volume Up button at the same time. You should be presented with a menu and one of the options should be “Apply sdcard:update.zip”.
7. Use the trackball to navigate to “apply sdcard:update.zip” and select it.
8. When you see “Install from sdcard complete”, select “reboot system now”.
Wait 5 minutes, phone will reboot once rebooted let the phone sit for about 5 minutes then you are good to go. It couldn't be any easier
Between problems with Clockwork recovery and being unable to read a ROM on my SD card (signature won't verify) has caused me to just stay rooted. If anyone has advice on how I can flash a rom with the above issues let me know.
Could I have screwed up unlocking nand protection?
It sounds like you should stick with the stock ROM.
If you simply follow the directions it isn't difficult.
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If you simply follow the directions it isn't difficult.
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exactly, which is why "It sounds like you should stick with the stock ROM" will be the best for All of us.
jgarozzo said:
Between problems with Clockwork recovery and being unable to read a ROM on my SD card (signature won't verify) has caused me to just stay rooted. If anyone has advice on how I can flash a rom with the above issues let me know.
Could I have screwed up unlocking nand protection?
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Why dont you flash stock RUU then follow toast root tutorial 1 and 2?
Your first problem was not using toast method and the more stable recovery. Second is giving up without trying them.
Unrevoked and clockwork are not as functional mostly because the clockwork recovery doesn't properly wipe or devices. This causes serious issues when you go to flash a new rom.
People use them because they are easy and are to lazy to read the thread so don't realize the issues. Then get frustrated when it doesn't work.
Are you rooted yet? If not, I used neckface's step by step method cuz I had problems setting up ADB. It takes a bit longer, but is very straight forward. I also used Amon Ra's recovery(really liked it on my G1) Once you're rooted flashing is easy. Just make sure whatever rom you use to READ all the instructions. Also, make sure your sd card isn't corrupt and that the roms are on the root of your card. Hope this helps, there are alot of benefits to full root and using the great roms they have out for our phones.
I did root toasts method
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I did root toasts method
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Where are you now, i mean only root with no custom recovery?
jgarozzo said:
I did root toasts method
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Clockwork recovery isn't used with toasts method, it is a modified Amon Ra recovery. If you are rooted, I would go do toasts part 2 again. at the end you will flash the recovery and shouldn't have any problems, make sure you wipe data, davlik cache and cache with that recovery before flashing a new ROM.
Edit: Ok, when I downloaded the files from toasts method 2 wasn't clockworkmod recovery. Thought I better caveat that just in case something changed in the last couple weeks.
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Between problems with Clockwork recovery and being unable to read a ROM on my SD card (signature won't verify) has caused me to just stay rooted. If anyone has advice on how I can flash a rom with the above issues let me know.
Could I have screwed up unlocking nand protection?
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Have you tried formating your sd card i was having problems with my phone not reading the roms on my sd card and formated it and haven't had the problem since.
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It sounds like you should stick with the stock ROM.
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yeah, i have to agree.. ive unlocked my windows mobile phones but never rooted until i got my evo.. i was a little nervous but the tutorials are very nice and easily explained.. just followed each step one after another without rushing until everything was good to go.. i have no interest in trying out froyo since a few things arent working at the moment but in actuality you wont have any problems if you are just patient.. i only use fresh roms because ive learned thats the rom of my choice, ive tried others but always went back to fresh so basically im just sticking to whatever flipz releases.. most ppl that indupt having issues are those that rushed the latest ota after it is constantly said to just wait for the devs to add it to their roms.. just be patient and follow the directions slowly and you should be good! and dont give up, when you get stuck you can always come to the forums.. ohh and instead of just creating a new thread of the same questions over and over and over again just start reading around because you will read someone having issues that you havent come across yet and when you actually do run into those problems you will already know how to fix them.. heres a fine example to unroot just load the stock RUU, that questions has been asked over and over again yet ppl that like to be spoonfed just create a new topic instead of using the search button.. i wasnt even sure how to unroot until i read the first topic that was created and since then lazy ppl keep asking that question instead of reading.. ppl are hear to help at xda, but it doesnt get annoying helping those that are just plain out lazy! dont give up bro.. just keep reading, we were all newbies at one time
now as to the reason why i quoted.. if your planning on just giving up when you have issues then sticking to stock is really just the best thing to prevent you from getting frustrated
lol, wow I just saw your two other threads you started. If you are having problems, really, just start back from the beginning and start over. Maybe you forgot to wipe, or as someone else mentioned try formatting your sd card, etc.
starting from scratch and I can't get it to read the pc36img.zip file to root
Have you tried this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915
Did you do the last update?
agreed. start over and do the Toast1 and Toast2 then install RaAmon. I personally like Flipz ROMs. i followed the steps provide to flash the FreshROM and all went well.
move slowly. if something fails, come back and RTFM before you move on blindly.
good luck.
for more help, i'd suggest you include some amount of detail. most folks out here are looking for help/advice. think of it this way...when you go to the doctor or dentist what do they need to know? what/where/when/how/etc ... you don't ONLY say "doc, i'm broke". you say what is wrong/what did you do, where it hurts, when did it work last, how did you get to this point, etc.
in the same way, if you simply say "i can't make it work"...well, we don't really care. but if you say, "i'm stuck at this point. i tried yadayadayada", then the nerds in this community will be unable to prevent themselves from chiming in. it's part of a nerds personality.
if you have read the documentation and followed it, you should have an idea as to which step failed. let's start there.
starting from scratch
I power off and power on and looks ready to read the PCIMG36.zip (goes 4 lines down) and then nothing. It wont read the file. I have tried a variety of pc36img.zip files and a variety of microSD cards, same result, it doesn't read and the progress bar doesn't show.
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I'm going to have to agree with you! I am no programmer or hacker but can follow direction and I have tried many of the different way to root my phone so I could tether it and they are all incomplete, missing some part of the equasion. I was able to tether my instintHD in like 5 mins and I have been messing with this for hours.
Start from scratch and use the simple root app. I would also refrain feom doing nand unlocking as I had problems where I would actually lose privilages with that.
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jgarozzo said:
Between problems with Clockwork recovery and being unable to read a ROM on my SD card (signature won't verify) has caused me to just stay rooted. If anyone has advice on how I can flash a rom with the above issues let me know.
Could I have screwed up unlocking nand protection?
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Stick with stock
Hi all,
I'm expecting my Galaxy S to arrive in the next couple of days, and I have a couple of questions about it.
I'm coming from an HTC Magic which I bought off eBay pre-rooted (see sig), so I'm not exactly up to speed with the process of rooting a phone for the first time.
Firstly, how hard is it to root the SGS? I've seen that it can be done with just an ADB command and an update.zip, is this right? Do I even have to use the ADB command? Is there a way to boot into recovery from the phone itself if I have an SD card I prepared earlier?
Secondly, what's the availability of custom ROMs like? One of the first things I want to do with the phone is nuke all the Samsung crapware from it and take it back to vanilla Android, if possible. The Magic has more ROMs available for it than you can shake a stick at, but I figure that the SGS is a much newer device, so won't have as many around at the moment. Is there anything precluding the production of custom ROMs? I've heard tales of encrypted drivers being the norm for Samsung, which sounds a bit crap.
Thanks in advance guys, I'm looking forward to my new phone (if not the bill for it, heh), and playing around with it in good old XDA fashion... and sorry if these questions have been asked before
whats your reason for wanting to root the phone immediately after you receive it?
I also thought through this, because i did it with my xperia. You can change the samsung touchWiz homepage via LauncherPro app
The only reason i would do it, would be to get froyo on a custom rom, but im going to wait and see if samsung do the good thing and give it to us via an update. As of yet there arent any custom roms for this anyway i dont think
It's easy to root the phone.
Download the update.zip file from this thread: http://forum.samdroid.net/f49/superuser-su-busybox-i9000-v-2-01-07-2010-a-1355/
Or direct link here
Copy the file to the internal storage card of the phone using Kies or whatever method you like.
Disconnect the usb cable
Turn off the phone
Press and hold these buttons at the same time: volume up+home+power, keep them pressed until you see the samsung logo.
Use volume rocker to navigate to update.zip and then press home to select.
Phone will reboot and you are now rooted with superuser.
The whole process takes less than 5 minutes.
I'm not responsible for anything
Cant you just have the latest firmware update added to update.zip?
rooting is only needed for custom roms etc?
TO OP
Rooting the phone is very easy and is a simple as flashing an update zip with SU + busybox with the stock recovery image, quite funny actually that they allow stock recovery to flash any signed zip .
As to the second question i am also very keen to know myself as i believe it should be very easy to create custom roms as i have edited /system directory mutlipul times myself and i believe i have came across a method to get JIT onto our device however i need the help of someone using a linux computer and as a few good skills with android .. PM ME.
sensi_ said:
whats your reason for wanting to root the phone immediately after you receive it?
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So I can restore all my apps from my Magic... although now that I'm running CM6, that may not be as feasible as it was this morning
Just a stupid question ... do we need to root the phone each time we flash a new ROM ??
Well, given that all the stock ROM needs is a simple update.zip flashing, it looks like the stock bootloader has security off. Like "S-OFF" on the Dream/Magic HBOOT. All you need for root access is the su program and the superuser.apk thing. Awesome.
I have the Samsung Fascinate and I recently rooted it to get all the wonderful benefits that come with rooting.
I downloaded the leaked Froyo update, renamed it "update.zip" and put it in my sd card folder in order to update.
I then turned off my phone and pushed the power button plus the volume up and down until I got to the boot screen. I kept getting an error saying it couldn't verify the package (or something along those lines) and then it sent me to a screen with the triangle, exclamation point and the little droid guy.
I also tried using Rom Manager but the same thing happened.
I hear you are supposed to use Odin, but I am running on a mac and Odin is a windows application.
Please help me, I'm desperate to get the Froyo update on my device.
Thanks in advance.
Yikes u didn't do any research at all did you?? U can't use Odin on Mac....and u need it. Do u even have cwm? Probably not since u didn't Odin. U need to Odin cwm...Make a backup...Odin eb01 modem...flash rom. Update.zip is not correct...u don't rename .zip roms...you flash them via cwm. Not trying to bash u....but you are way off...and getting help via forums will b tough.
You need to go to irc and be polite and find some help there. Someone should hopefully be able to help you...I will b on eventually.
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I did my research but if I'm not literate with how or what a CWM is or how to use it, that doesn't mean I didn't do my research.
But are you telling me I can't install the update without a windows computer?
I have access to one where I am but I would rather know all the steps before I get on someone else's computer and start trying to figure it out there.
I looked through all 50 or so pages of the Froyo leaked thread and I saw a few people who understood all these things, but if I don't understand and there isn't a tutorial it makes it harder for me to accomplish my goal.
Can your phone boot up?
Someone varify my directions.
This might work if u can get into download mode. U need to find all the links urself since I'm on tapatalk.
First off...find a pc. Without one you can't do anything. Put ur eb01 rom on sdcard for later. Instal the 32 bit or 64 bit Samsung drivers depending on ur pc. For many..its the 32 bit. Then get Odin. U will need to find a link to cwm...if I'm not mistaking there is one on like the 2nd or 3rd page in android development section...will say updated cwmq for dj05 or dl09 or something like that. Find directions of how to use Odin...but simply place the cwm.tar file in the pda section on Odin...then click start. When that's done...u should make a backup...however...u may not b able to boot up because of what u have already done. U may try odining the eb01 modem. Once u have that done...hold up down and power to get I to your new updated cwm. From there click instal zip from sdcard...and flash ur eb01 rom of choice....wipe wipe wipe...reboot system.
Again...this may not work since I'm not possitive what u already did to ur phone by not doing your research. Like I already said...be polite and head over to irc. .someone will have more time than I do to fix ur phone.
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You obviously didn't research. There is an eb01 walkthrough on fascinate development section...impossible to miss. If ur incompetent at following step by step directions u should not be Modding your phone. Seek help and knowledge before doing anything...u don't want a 600 dollar paper clip do you?
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You obviously didn't research. There is an eb01 walkthrough on fascinate development section...impossible to miss. If ur incompetent at following step by step directions u should not be Modding your phone. Seek help and knowledge before doing anything...u don't want a 600 dollar paper clip do you?
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How would you use it as a paper clip? A paper weight I see, but not a paper clip?!?!
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I did my research but if I'm not literate with how or what a CWM is or how to use it, that doesn't mean I didn't do my research.
But are you telling me I can't install the update without a windows computer?
I have access to one where I am but I would rather know all the steps before I get on someone else's computer and start trying to figure it out there.
I looked through all 50 or so pages of the Froyo leaked thread and I saw a few people who understood all these things, but if I don't understand and there isn't a tutorial it makes it harder for me to accomplish my goal.
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Not to be a ****...but the first thing you learn when reading is how to flash the modem using ODIN...so, yeah....
Since you've f'd up the phone already. Download the restore to stock files and odin. Go to someone with a PC and follow the restore directions to the T. DO NOT FALTER.
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You obviously didn't research. There is an eb01 walkthrough on fascinate development section...impossible to miss. If ur incompetent at following step by step directions u should not be Modding your phone. Seek help and knowledge before doing anything...u don't want a 600 dollar paper clip do you?
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No, but I also don't see the need for the disrespectful way you are treating someone looking for help.
Not everyone out there is as "smart" as you may be with modding but that's what this forum is for. Questions and answers, not smartass replies that don't help at all.
I appreciate the other posters response because at least he gave me information with no attitude. If you want to help someone, help them, don't demean them and offer a little advice.
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Not to be a ****...but the first thing you learn when reading is how to flash the modem using ODIN...so, yeah....
Since you've f'd up the phone already. Download the restore to stock files and odin. Go to someone with a PC and follow the restore directions to the T. DO NOT FALTER.
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The phone is working fine, if not better than before.
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The phone is working fine, if not better than before.
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Honestly, you haven't done anything to your phone yet, so it shouldn't be running any differently than it was before.
There is a way to push CWM using ADB and Terminal on a Mac, but you would still need Odin to flash the modem, so might as well do everything that way. Download this Odin package from Android Central, and flash that using the PDA box in Odin. After that, you can flash a different 2.2 ROM or theme if you like
The only thing I am having trouble with is how to "flash" something.
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The only thing I am having trouble with is how to "flash" something.
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Go to the Eb01 modem thread and read it. They will tell you how to "flash". You download the modem, plug in your phone, select PDA in ODIN and hit write or whatever...
It's as easy as reading and searching,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948679
Not searching for things will get you flamed, ignored and banned (If not reading the rules). The reason I suggested you flash back to complete stock is because until you know what flashing is, difference between a ROM and a Radio...you are in dangerous territory of bricking your phone.
Guys, I'm also new to this flashing thing, but I've used Odin before and have read all the steps in the EB01 thread. My question is: can I install EB01 on top of stock, unmodded EA28 (which is the latest Eclair from Verizon) without wiping my data? All sets of instructions I've read include wiping, wiping, wiping... But since the new ROM is supposedly signed with the same Samsung/Verizon key as my current ROM, why shouldn't I be able to just install it on top, without wiping my data?
Or is it that because the guy who posted the ROM actually modified it, it's no longer signed with the Samsung or Verizon key?
I searched, but didn't find. I think the answer to this may be relevant to the original poster of this thread too, that's why I'm posting here.
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Guys, I'm also new to this flashing thing, but I've used Odin before and have read all the steps in the EB01 thread. My question is: can I install EB01 on top of stock, unmodded EA28 (which is the latest Eclair from Verizon) without wiping my data? All sets of instructions I've read include wiping, wiping, wiping... But since the new ROM is supposedly signed with the same Samsung/Verizon key as my current ROM, why shouldn't I be able to just install it on top, without wiping my data?
Or is it that because the guy who posted the ROM actually modified it, it's no longer signed with the Samsung or Verizon key?
I searched, but didn't find. I think the answer to this may be relevant to the original poster of this thread too, that's why I'm posting here.
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It's always recommended to wipe. Those that don't are typically those who end up complaining about bad battery life, force close loops and utter suckageness...now flashing let's say super clean 2.0 to 2.2...that's fine bypassing the wipe, but imho that's the only exception.
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Guys, I'm also new to this flashing thing, but I've used Odin before and have read all the steps in the EB01 thread. My question is: can I install EB01 on top of stock, unmodded EA28 (which is the latest Eclair from Verizon) without wiping my data? All sets of instructions I've read include wiping, wiping, wiping... But since the new ROM is supposedly signed with the same Samsung/Verizon key as my current ROM, why shouldn't I be able to just install it on top, without wiping my data?
Or is it that because the guy who posted the ROM actually modified it, it's no longer signed with the Samsung or Verizon key?
I searched, but didn't find. I think the answer to this may be relevant to the original poster of this thread too, that's why I'm posting here.
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You can install without wiping (saying from experience) as long as you dont mind problems later. I had plenty of force close problems and widget problems when I didnt wipe data.
Most ROM here are modified, to help protect the person who leaked it.
Interesting. Do we know the cause of those problems? How come no such problems exist when you update OTA with a similar official build?
I'm a developer and it seems weird to me that if you're starting with a stock ROM and upgrading to another stock ROM, apps will have issues. Or are the issues due to the fact that the newer ROM is still buggy (and that's probably why they haven't officially released it yet)?
Also, it doesn't hurt to try, right? And if I do get problems, THEN I can just do a simple wipe and start off clean. But if I don't have huge problems, I don't have to go through the trouble of restoring all my apps and settings, logging into everything again, etc.
it's not hard to restore apps/data, use titanium backup.
go ahead and try it without wiping, just do a full nandroid backup first. then if it sucks or you get funny errors you can revert really easily. I'd wipe with a major change like this, but if you're determined to try it there's really no big downside. just back up!
I ran EB01 over the weekend, didn't like a couple of things and was back up and running on DL09 in no time when I decided to switch back.
Its recommended to wipe but I've seen it a lot where u OK not wiping... u can try without and it u get bootloop just do a wipe. Like posted...titanium backup is ur bff when I mod.
Also about the post about me being rude.. I gave u the info u need...just telling you to research. U said u did, and I pointed out u didn't. If your not going to take the time to learn what ur doing...then expect help ASAP...expect ppl to b a bit rude. Ppl are welcome to help...but if u do something dumb without research...expect people to tell you.
Glad u got it working ok
sent from my vanilla voodoo fascinate
Just FYI everyone, I was able to to install Froyo without wiping and everything works fine. (except that my home screen shortcuts and maybe even some of my settings got reset... which was one of the things I was trying to avoid... but whatever.). The only issue I've run into so far is that Google Maps hangs for many seconds every once in a while. But I reset its internal cache and it's better now. All other apps are working fine.
umm "TheFake" is obviously a troll
nobody is that stupid, and his screen name gives it away
Ok, i realize i have a different phone from this thread but it is close and my problems closely reflect the issues ive seen with the Galaxy S.
A little background. Im no perfect i know what im doing when it comes to rooting. I have an HTC Tbolt and rooted many of those, an older touch pro 2, and this is first time doing a samsung. I am getting the hang of ODIN (i wish everyone would just use this program instead of bouncing back and forth between heimdall and ODIn but whatever) Im liking ODIN cause it works well. I was successful at flashing a new rom into this Samsung phone. 95% of it worked, wifi i think didnt but everything else worked. While trying to fix the phones wifi somehow i have stopped the phone from booting into CMW recovery unless forced or booting into a rom. I can get into CMW but i must hold down the Vol Down button to get there, otherwise a clean basic boot takes me to the stock android system recovery screen and will not boot a rom.
I have something backwards or out of order. I am just trying to get the rom to identify the installed CMW and the installed ROM through CMW but it wont do it.
Any help would be appreciated, i dont want my GF to find out i jacked her phone lol
Which phone do you have? SGS? I can just talk about SGS+ but I guess its similiar.
Try to install CWM with Odin, normally it should replace the stock recovery (haven't heard of both running at once).
Once you have installed CWM you can install your custom ROM with CWM (look at the install instructions).
If you want to install stock ROM with Odin it will replace your CWM with stock Recovery.
Post the link of the thread/recovery you want to flash.
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Which phone do you have? SGS? I can just talk about SGS+ but I guess its similiar.
Try to install CWM with Odin, normally it should replace the stock recovery (haven't heard of both running at once).
Once you have installed CWM you can install your custom ROM with CWM (look at the install instructions).
If you want to install stock ROM with Odin it will replace your CWM with stock Recovery.
Post the link of the thread/recovery you want to flash.
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Its a stratosphere. Im using the root and / or stock files in the root method. I use ODIN to flash the StratCWMRecovery.tar.md5 and if i tick "reboot" then it reboots into CWM i install a rom or stock rom and it finishes. I reboot the phone and it instantly goes back to android system recovery. If you like ill make a short video to give you an idea of whats going on.
I will note that im close to making a jig but its not 100% bricked obviously. 3 button method still works (and unecessary at this point since all the phone does is go straight into the stock bootloader) and then after i install CWM i can force it in to CWM but it wont actualy boot into it.
From a programing standpoint i feel the pointers or partitions are incorrect. Its like booting a computer that has a hard drive with windows installed however getting the bios to tell it to boot from the hard drive isnt working. THats the easiest way to explain this.
One thing i want to note is the only errors i am getting are when i try to partition the SD card from CWM. I get an error saying sdparted is not found.
I am not getting a full understanding of how the root system works on this phone.
Again any help is appreciated.
Made a short video. Its uploading now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFZ5Adm5AdQ
So whatever i did i was able to fix. I think me being a very visual person and normally having access to all files i need or could use in a situation is always nice. Here, i didnt but i found them. Here's the link. Its obviously for stratosphere but i took about 10 minutes and let ODIN install all these files and it worked.
original posting but the link doesnt work for download
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/11183-eh2-full-factory-odin-restore/
where i downloaded it
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/t4D235pUTO/SCH-I405.EH2_rel.md5.html
Again this is for stratosphere. Since it really helped me return to stock and allow me to re root in about 15 minutes this thread should be moved but there is no stratosphere area