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New to rooting and upgrading ROMs

Hello, xda!
I've been around on the forums for some time, flashing and messing with ROMs before, but with an old HTC Touch Pro. So forgive me for seeming like a leecher.
I've come here to ask a few questions reguarding Andriod roms and flashing/upgrading procedures. I'm comfortable with using RUUs to upgrade, but who isnt...
I've had my HTC Hero for about 2 weeks now and I accidently bricked one already. I've rooted manually once, and got no signal on the stock Sprint ROM so I tried to go back to the original flash recovery but killed my phone instead.
Could someone help me out. I've read guides and been very, very anxious to upgrade and root but as you've read, I've already bricked my phone once so I'm pretty cautious now.
From what I understand, I need to root to 1.2.3, NAND backup, WIPE sd card & phone, then flash damage control's rom.....
So do I have it right or should I read a bit more?
Any help and tips from some experienced flashers would be much appreciated. Thanks!

mjones832 said:
From what I understand, I need to root to 1.2.3, NAND backup, WIPE sd card & phone, then flash damage control's rom.....
So do I have it right or should I read a bit more?
Any help and tips from some experienced flashers would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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First off; we're happy you chose not to give up and came back a second time.
What you do need to do is; 1) Root and flash a Recovery image 2) Make a Nandroid back up, 3) Wipe ONLY your phone (not your SD Card, unless you want to do Apps2SD) and 4) Flash the ROM of your choice.
**The rooting guide I linked above is the way I prefer to do it; via adb commands. However, you could also you use Flipz's kitchen to do all of this for you.
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For more information about Flipz's kitchen, please go here: Flipz's Kitchen
Also, do note -- for other tutorials/guides/references; go HERE

I was seriously nervous to start the process as well. As I told someone else, being nervous is a good thing. That just means you'll be careful.
I seriously recommend reading this thread and following instructions. Do not skip steps, do not pass go, do not collect $200. I've personally used the Windows guide and the Linux guide. Both are very well done and I can verify that they work.
Beyond that, the Search function is fantastic and provides lots of information. Don't be afraid to ask questions, either. Most of us are nice and like to help, even if we do call people n00bs.

WOW! Insanely quick replies. Thanks for that guys. This is what I wanna hear so I'll be doing the flash when I get home.
I'm using the 2.1update1 sprint beta ROM right now so should I revert back to the 1.56 and THEN do all this or can I just jump right in. I've always been confused as to which rom needs what flash rec root file or w/e.
And yes, I do want the A2SD thing as thats one problem I'm having right now. I've only got 16MB of storage left of my current storage area but my 8GB sd card is almost empty except for a few songs and pictures. Also, should I upgrade my sd card to a higher class if my 8GB is a class 2?
Thanks again guys!

Also, I mentioned that the last time I tried to root, I had no service after I did so. Why is that and what do I do to fix this? I couldn't find anything on this in google searches.

mjones832 said:
Also, I mentioned that the last time I tried to root, I had no service after I did so. Why is that and what do I do to fix this? I couldn't find anything on this in google searches.
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Some people say to toggle airplane mode on and off. Some people say reboot. The last time this happened to me I just played a video game for ten or fifteen minutes and it fired up.

mjones832 said:
And yes, I do want the A2SD thing as thats one problem I'm having right now. I've only got 16MB of storage left of my current storage area but my 8GB sd card is almost empty except for a few songs and pictures. Also, should I upgrade my sd card to a higher class if my 8GB is a class 2?
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I've not used apps2sd myself, but I'm told the higher class card the better, for obvious reasons.

Thanks, subcypher! I've got absolutely no reason to not do this. I'll be doing it as soon as I get home.

mjones832 said:
Thanks, subcypher! I've got absolutely no reason to not do this. I'll be doing it as soon as I get home.
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Have fun! We'll be here when you get back.

yes.. a faster class sd card is highly recommended!!! other wise with a2sd, you might see more lag... and issues.
I personally, would not do a2sd at the same time as you upgrade. finish the upgrade first. make sure all is good...
then do the a2sd. and do a nandroid backup again before.

So I just tried to go back to 1.56 with the signed RUU that sprint gives out and it gave me an error. Failed to load bootloaded or something similar to that.
Remember, I'm on the 2.1update1 beta release of sprint's rom but I wanna root and flash to DamageControl's 2.1.
I've tried looking into how to root my current 2.1update1 beta ROM but I didn't come across anything worthwhile.
Anyone know whats going on???

mjones832 said:
So I just tried to go back to 1.56 with the signed RUU that sprint gives out and it gave me an error. Failed to load bootloaded or something similar to that.
Remember, I'm on the 2.1update1 beta release of sprint's rom but I wanna root and flash to DamageControl's 2.1.
I've tried looking into how to root my current 2.1update1 beta ROM but I didn't come across anything worthwhile.
Anyone know whats going on???
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What steps did you take to use the Sprint RUU?
In order to run the Sprint RUU, you need to do:
**Make sure you have the appropriate drivers to detect HTC Sync**
1. Install HTC Sync on your computer
2. After install, open and leave the HTC Sync Window open
3. Connect your phone; and click on the sync option. You should be able to sync, if not - then you're having driver issues.
4. After you've successfully synced, NOW run the Sprint 1.5 RUU.
5. Upon a successful RUU, you'll have your phone back to its factory settings.
Now you can reroot, flash whatever ROM you like, and flash any/all add-ons.

As far as the signal goes, the following are from the Fresh 2.0d install page.
A reboot after the first bootup finishes is recommended, especially if you were previously having PRI/PRL problems.
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If after flashing you end up with any data issues then first try rebooting. If that doesn’t resolve it for you then try updating your profile and PRL. This is a side effect of the different PRI’s and PRL’s that people have ended up on. You may actually need to update your profile and PRL a couple times to get everything going but I promise it will. You should end up on PRL 60663.
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I personally had no problems, but I was flashing Fresh, not Damage.

Ok, I've got it rooted, and nand-backup stored on my PC.
DamageControl says to wipe before his install. Do I "wipe data/factory reset" or "wipe Dalvik-cache" or any other options?

If its the same as Fresh, they want you to do a Wipe data/factory reset

Thanks everyone! I'm installing DamageControl right now! I'll let you know how it goes.

Success! I've got the phone rooted, at least I think I do, and flashed to DamageControl v2.08.
My next task is I really want to get my apps to install to my sdcard. I've got a 8GB class 4 sdcard. Should and can I put my apps onto this? I've heard that the hero doesnt even read and write faster then 2Mbps so I'm good, right?

Not sure if I'm rooted. I've installed a few apps that require SU and when they try to do a "SU Request" the screen sits at a black screen with that title at the top.
Any idea on whats going on?

If you were able to flash a damage less rom you're rooted.
On the black window there should be am option on the bottom to allow, select it.
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The black screen for SU is caused by not having USB Debugging turned on as it is required for superuser permissions. I have not tried A2SD because I only have a class 2, but have read that unless you have a class 6 it can be slow.

[REQ] Flashable "lag-free" ROM

Thought maybe by now someone would make a workable flashable zip to flash basically stock vibrant firmware with the nand fix (the real method, not with 130 mb limit). If it is out there I apologize, but i'm almost sure I haven't seen it on here. And I'm referring to flashing via clockwork recovery. I've come from a G1 and really never had to do anything but download and hit the "flash any zip" option from recovery, and its a method i'm most comfortable with. Thanks for any direction you might provide.

This ROM doesn't use the NAND, it uses an EXT2/EXT3 partition on your SD card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743506

javacody said:
This ROM doesn't use the NAND, it uses an EXT2/EXT3 partition on your SD card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743506
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How is it working for you?

joe.kerwin said:
Thought maybe by now someone would make a workable flashable zip to flash basically stock vibrant firmware with the nand fix (the real method, not with 130 mb limit). If it is out there I apologize, but i'm almost sure I haven't seen it on here. And I'm referring to flashing via clockwork recovery. I've come from a G1 and really never had to do anything but download and hit the "flash any zip" option from recovery, and its a method i'm most comfortable with. Thanks for any direction you might provide.
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..since there is no way to magically make nand bigger than 128 megs (without soldering new chips on) I suspect "the real method" is the apps2sd method..

Disconn3ct said:
..since there is no way to magically make nand bigger than 128 megs (without soldering new chips on) I suspect "the real method" is the apps2sd method..
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Both Methods require ROOT*
*Method 1 limits the space of app data, which can possibly cause issues*
*Method 2 requires writing a new Kernel, which comes with it's own possible issues*
I'm just getting irritated. I have a 1ghz phone with lag/gps problems. It seems whenever I need to whip out my phone for something quick those are always the times it screws up too, so i get 10x more frustrated but I didn't want this to become a phone i'm constantly flashing and its already happening because it wasn't made right in the first place. Anyone with lag fix able to post a backup they might have made? I'm just looking for solutions, and easier ways to get there.

Plus maybe i'm just biased but creating an EXT? I thought those days were over when I cashed in my G1. I just dont understand how using an ext on your SD can be faster than storing the data internally.

joe.kerwin said:
Plus maybe i'm just biased but creating an EXT? I thought those days were over when I cashed in my G1. I just dont understand how using an ext on your SD can be faster than storing the data internally.
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Read the linked thread above and you'll learn. It's pretty simple.

MTC44 said:
Read the linked thread above and you'll learn. It's pretty simple.
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So I need to create an EXT partition first before flashing the above mentioned ROM? What are the recommended settings if any for size? And I partition through clockwork orrrr? I know there's probably an answer for all these questions but between people using UK firmware/unfamiliar terms I don't want to jump into anything without missing a step.

Just go to the userinit thread and apply it... No need to flash a whole rom... Just partition your sd and flash the zip...
I ran jf rom on my g1 for like 2 months before a rom that dramatically changed anything...
We were so gracious for just that... Be patient this is new hardware.. Look at the international development section... We have made a lot of progress in 3 weeks..
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

Why waste time asking questions when you can answer them yourself?

All~G1 said:
Why waste time asking questions when you can answer them yourself?
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I dunno, why waste time posting that question when you can simply read on if you have no advice? The strange things we do. And yes it is new hardware, hence why I ask these questions before I dive into something I'm unfamiliar with. Id rather ask questions and wait than waste hours trying to get my phone to turn on again after jumping the gun. My question that still stands is with the partitioning. With my g1, it was cut and dry on Amon Ra, did it right in recovery, so is there anything like that for us vibrant owners? I've never used ADB or anything of that nature, so I come from a download and flash world, so excuse my unfamiliarity and please dont take it as me complaining that it's not easy enough to do.

Look how long it took for the g1 to get where it is at now? Eventually it will come. You think your the only who would like to have a lag free rom? If you would have done some reading on the development side, you would have noticed there were a couple of fixes and also some progress. Ask questions on those threads over there as far as the speed and if it will suit your needs.

joe.kerwin said:
I dunno, why waste time posting that question when you can simply read on if you have no advice? The strange things we do. And yes it is new hardware, hence why I ask these questions before I dive into something I'm unfamiliar with. Id rather ask questions and wait than waste hours trying to get my phone to turn on again after jumping the gun. My question that still stands is with the partitioning. With my g1, it was cut and dry on Amon Ra, did it right in recovery, so is there anything like that for us vibrant owners? I've never used ADB or anything of that nature, so I come from a download and flash world, so excuse my unfamiliarity and please dont take it as me complaining that it's not easy enough to do.
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Learn ADB if you want to hack a Vibrant. Without a keyboard, we can't do shells in recovery without it. There are tutorials, so I won't repeat them. Logcat is also very useful and low level devs won't be able to help you if you run into problems and can't provide a log.
Partitioning. DO NOT USE CLOCKWORK/ROM MANAGER. Right now it will partition the phone's INTERNAL flash, which is cause boot loops and you will have to Odin flash the phone back to stock to make it boot again. Use a computer and a card reader with Paragon, Gpartd, etc.. Or a G1 with Amon RA, or adb shell into clockwork recovery and use fdisk.
EXT size, doesn't really matter. You don't need a ton. I use 1GB and it's using about 180MB. For EXT type, use ext3 with the stock kernel, or, if you install JACs kernel, ext4 is faster and more reliable.
Note that partitioning on the phone in recovery via fdisk won't format the partitions. Flash my e2fsprogs ZIP file in JACs kernel thread for the versions that support ext4.
Before you start messing with this stuff, download the stock Odin flash files from the thread in development. If you mess something up, you can get back to stock. You should also get ADB and the Samsung drivers installed. Then get Titanium backup and make backups. When you install Clockwork, do a nandroid as well. Backups are GOOD.
Keep in mind, we are in the early stages of learning how to hack on these phones. We won't get to the level the G1 is at for a while. Go read the threads in the G1 dev forum from a year ago and you will see a lot of recommendations for learning adb, partitioning manually, and all the other stuff we are doing here on the Vibrant. It's a process. If you want flash and forget, you need to wait a while still. We're working on it, but we aren't there yet. This is new hardware and a whole new way of doing things.

ttabbal said:
Learn ADB if you want to hack a Vibrant. Without a keyboard, we can't do shells in recovery without it. There are tutorials, so I won't repeat them. Logcat is also very useful and low level devs won't be able to help you if you run into problems and can't provide a log.
Partitioning. DO NOT USE CLOCKWORK/ROM MANAGER. Right now it will partition the phone's INTERNAL flash, which is cause boot loops and you will have to Odin flash the phone back to stock to make it boot again. Use a computer and a card reader with Paragon, Gpartd, etc.. Or a G1 with Amon RA, or adb shell into clockwork recovery and use fdisk.
EXT size, doesn't really matter. You don't need a ton. I use 1GB and it's using about 180MB. For EXT type, use ext3 with the stock kernel, or, if you install JACs kernel, ext4 is faster and more reliable.
Note that partitioning on the phone in recovery via fdisk won't format the partitions. Flash my e2fsprogs ZIP file in JACs kernel thread for the versions that support ext4.
Before you start messing with this stuff, download the stock Odin flash files from the thread in development. If you mess something up, you can get back to stock. You should also get ADB and the Samsung drivers installed. Then get Titanium backup and make backups. When you install Clockwork, do a nandroid as well. Backups are GOOD.
Keep in mind, we are in the early stages of learning how to hack on these phones. We won't get to the level the G1 is at for a while. Go read the threads in the G1 dev forum from a year ago and you will see a lot of recommendations for learning adb, partitioning manually, and all the other stuff we are doing here on the Vibrant. It's a process. If you want flash and forget, you need to wait a while still. We're working on it, but we aren't there yet. This is new hardware and a whole new way of doing things.
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Thank you very much. Now this is a respectable response. i'll find some time next week to learn this ADB stuff.

joe.kerwin said:
I dunno, why waste time posting that question when you can simply read on if you have no advice? The strange things we do. And yes it is new hardware, hence why I ask these questions before I dive into something I'm unfamiliar with. Id rather ask questions and wait than waste hours trying to get my phone to turn on again after jumping the gun. My question that still stands is with the partitioning. With my g1, it was cut and dry on Amon Ra, did it right in recovery, so is there anything like that for us vibrant owners? I've never used ADB or anything of that nature, so I come from a download and flash world, so excuse my unfamiliarity and please dont take it as me complaining that it's not easy enough to do.
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No one is asking you to take a chance on bricking your phone hard or soft. I was implying more that you could learn or develop your knowledge of what others have placed in front of you. Everything takes time, rather "wasting" it on a procedure you don't understand, "waste" it on learning it, then do it. You have everything you want to know right in front of you. If you searched and read hard enough you'd now be able to "answer the questions yourself" to where you understand it.
Oh and just to let you know there is a flashable "lag-free" Rom in the Dev forum. While its bare, it is still doing wonders on this phone!
@ttabbal- You're the man!!! Don't know how you do it... lol

could someone that doesn't mind walking me through the correct partitioning method and getting this rom to work at it's max.. send me a private message so we can talk through gtalk tonight?. Im a fast learner, just purchased an 8gb class 4 sd card. I want to be safe.

Pm sent
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All~G1 said:
@ttabbal- You're the man!!! Don't know how you do it... lol
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I'm glad my stuff has been useful to the community. I'm a little shocked to see it integrated into a ROM and a kernel so far.
As for how I do it, what's the quote about standing on the shoulders of giants? I learned a ton reading posts and scripts from Cyanogen, Firerat, Eugene, and many others. Combine that with running Linux boxes for a few years, and you pick up enough to contribute a bit. Most of what I'm doing is adapting G1 hacks to work on the Vibrant, but I'm glad people like them.
Now if we could just get Samsung to give us decent GPS and compass drivers, maybe a tasty Froyo?

joe.kerwin said:
How is it working for you?
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Haven't tried it yet, my friend.
I'm using the patch mentioned above.
I am also using ADW instead of TouchWiz, which seems to help quite a bit.

junkdruggler said:
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How beneficial is it to do this? Should I wait for better ROMs? I am nervous about rooting my device as many are defective after a week or two and need shipped back.

Newbie here

Hey guys,
I am new to flashing and rooting and stuff and am needing some help with all this. I'm kinda getting lost in the forums, reading all this stuff I have a stock Vibrant that i want to root and put a Froyo rom on it. I am currently on 2.1 of course. Can anyone kinda guide me through this?
Thanks!

I would suggest starting here:
Vibrant Guides
And here:
Newb Guide
Get the basics and understand what you will be doing. These guides can help you allot. If then you still don't understand then come back with a more specific question.
Good luck and have fun!

everything is here hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458 (change xx for tt). read, its good for you

Thanks guys, I'm going to have to read this more carefully apparently. Let me ask this before i do anything to the phone. What backup program should i get if i need to restore it back to stock everything? I want to make sure i have that done before i try any of this. I've done Iphones and stuff, unlocking them and jailbreaking them, those were a piece of cake, but never done a custom rom on an android phone before, nor have i ever rooted one. so im kinda nervous at all this

you should make a nandroid backup, that will be a failsafe but your lifesaver will be odin. when you think you bricked your phone it will rise from the grave. i love odin

sisco22 said:
Thanks guys, I'm going to have to read this more carefully apparently. Let me ask this before i do anything to the phone. What backup program should i get if i need to restore it back to stock everything? I want to make sure i have that done before i try any of this. I've done Iphones and stuff, unlocking them and jailbreaking them, those were a piece of cake, but never done a custom rom on an android phone before, nor have i ever rooted one. so im kinda nervous at all this
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Use Odin to get back to Stock. The Bible in the Development thread has the links for Odin download, also the links for the stock android ROMs to odin back to. Make sure you can get into the Download mode before doing anything. Especially using your hardware keys. (to verify that your phone is not hardware locked). If it is you have to install the JI6 to get the hardware key issue fixed.
Also read the wiki page http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S_SGH-T959

my noob guide (signature) has videos... you can use your pc (ODIN) and have a rooted 2.2 phone in like 2 minutes!

sisco22 said:
Hey guys,
I am new to flashing and rooting and stuff and am needing some help with all this. I'm kinda getting lost in the forums, reading all this stuff I have a stock Vibrant that i want to root and put a Froyo rom on it. I am currently on 2.1 of course. Can anyone kinda guide me through this?
Thanks!
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Hey bud. If you need some visual help, I should have my videos up by tonight and ready for viewing tomorrow morning. I've dubbed it my choose your own samsung vibrant adventure, so hopefully you can see what it looks like and get your questions answered.

thanks guys, the videos are a big help. 2 things that im trying to find is the Odin download and the Nandroid download. Can't seem to find a link for those.

^ the noob guide has a link to download ODIN (and the files needed).
The ALT METHOD listed is Froyo with root already enabled... doesnt get much easier! It's in my signature, or the sticky in the Q&A section.
Also, to clarify, once you use ODIN and flash this (which gives you froyo+root) you can download Rom Manager from the market.... you use it to instal clockwork recovery.... you use clockwork recovery to make a nandroid backup of your system. You can't do this until you have root.

This link should get you to where you can download what you need:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771111

^ to even make it THAT much easier.... here is the thread that I was referencing (and is in the sticky)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=799105

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^ to even make it THAT much easier.... here is the thread that I was referencing (and is in the sticky)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=799105
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Thanks! I was looking at it and i found this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...ost in all this stuff haha! its alot of info.

^ please read both sticky's in my signature before you proceed. If you read those, this is very straight-forward.
You would need to root and download rom manager
install clockwork recovery
move the .zip to sdcard/ (internal memory)
reboot into recovery
flash the file
reboot
but please read my guide... if it doesnt make it obvious, please let me know what needs to be updated.

s15274n said:
^ please read both sticky's in my signature before you proceed. If you read those, this is very straight-forward.
You would need to root and download rom manager
install clockwork recovery
move the .zip to sdcard/ (internal memory)
reboot into recovery
flash the file
reboot
but please read my guide... if it doesnt make it obvious, please let me know what needs to be updated.
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Thanks for your help! I finally understand all of it. Apparently the Flash Clockworks didn't install correctly...so when i tried to open the zip it would open. I installed Axura on it just now and it looks like its running smoothly! Thanks for everyone's help and sticking with me!

Froyo Update Won't Install

I have the Samsung Fascinate and I recently rooted it to get all the wonderful benefits that come with rooting.
I downloaded the leaked Froyo update, renamed it "update.zip" and put it in my sd card folder in order to update.
I then turned off my phone and pushed the power button plus the volume up and down until I got to the boot screen. I kept getting an error saying it couldn't verify the package (or something along those lines) and then it sent me to a screen with the triangle, exclamation point and the little droid guy.
I also tried using Rom Manager but the same thing happened.
I hear you are supposed to use Odin, but I am running on a mac and Odin is a windows application.
Please help me, I'm desperate to get the Froyo update on my device.
Thanks in advance.

Yikes u didn't do any research at all did you?? U can't use Odin on Mac....and u need it. Do u even have cwm? Probably not since u didn't Odin. U need to Odin cwm...Make a backup...Odin eb01 modem...flash rom. Update.zip is not correct...u don't rename .zip roms...you flash them via cwm. Not trying to bash u....but you are way off...and getting help via forums will b tough.
You need to go to irc and be polite and find some help there. Someone should hopefully be able to help you...I will b on eventually.
sent from my vanilla voodoo fascinate

I did my research but if I'm not literate with how or what a CWM is or how to use it, that doesn't mean I didn't do my research.
But are you telling me I can't install the update without a windows computer?
I have access to one where I am but I would rather know all the steps before I get on someone else's computer and start trying to figure it out there.
I looked through all 50 or so pages of the Froyo leaked thread and I saw a few people who understood all these things, but if I don't understand and there isn't a tutorial it makes it harder for me to accomplish my goal.

Can your phone boot up?
Someone varify my directions.
This might work if u can get into download mode. U need to find all the links urself since I'm on tapatalk.
First off...find a pc. Without one you can't do anything. Put ur eb01 rom on sdcard for later. Instal the 32 bit or 64 bit Samsung drivers depending on ur pc. For many..its the 32 bit. Then get Odin. U will need to find a link to cwm...if I'm not mistaking there is one on like the 2nd or 3rd page in android development section...will say updated cwmq for dj05 or dl09 or something like that. Find directions of how to use Odin...but simply place the cwm.tar file in the pda section on Odin...then click start. When that's done...u should make a backup...however...u may not b able to boot up because of what u have already done. U may try odining the eb01 modem. Once u have that done...hold up down and power to get I to your new updated cwm. From there click instal zip from sdcard...and flash ur eb01 rom of choice....wipe wipe wipe...reboot system.
Again...this may not work since I'm not possitive what u already did to ur phone by not doing your research. Like I already said...be polite and head over to irc. .someone will have more time than I do to fix ur phone.
sent from my vanilla voodoo fascinate

You obviously didn't research. There is an eb01 walkthrough on fascinate development section...impossible to miss. If ur incompetent at following step by step directions u should not be Modding your phone. Seek help and knowledge before doing anything...u don't want a 600 dollar paper clip do you?
sent from my vanilla voodoo fascinate

kyfredrickson said:
You obviously didn't research. There is an eb01 walkthrough on fascinate development section...impossible to miss. If ur incompetent at following step by step directions u should not be Modding your phone. Seek help and knowledge before doing anything...u don't want a 600 dollar paper clip do you?
sent from my vanilla voodoo fascinate
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How would you use it as a paper clip? A paper weight I see, but not a paper clip?!?!

TheFake said:
I did my research but if I'm not literate with how or what a CWM is or how to use it, that doesn't mean I didn't do my research.
But are you telling me I can't install the update without a windows computer?
I have access to one where I am but I would rather know all the steps before I get on someone else's computer and start trying to figure it out there.
I looked through all 50 or so pages of the Froyo leaked thread and I saw a few people who understood all these things, but if I don't understand and there isn't a tutorial it makes it harder for me to accomplish my goal.
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Not to be a ****...but the first thing you learn when reading is how to flash the modem using ODIN...so, yeah....
Since you've f'd up the phone already. Download the restore to stock files and odin. Go to someone with a PC and follow the restore directions to the T. DO NOT FALTER.

kyfredrickson said:
You obviously didn't research. There is an eb01 walkthrough on fascinate development section...impossible to miss. If ur incompetent at following step by step directions u should not be Modding your phone. Seek help and knowledge before doing anything...u don't want a 600 dollar paper clip do you?
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No, but I also don't see the need for the disrespectful way you are treating someone looking for help.
Not everyone out there is as "smart" as you may be with modding but that's what this forum is for. Questions and answers, not smartass replies that don't help at all.
I appreciate the other posters response because at least he gave me information with no attitude. If you want to help someone, help them, don't demean them and offer a little advice.

jenisiz said:
Not to be a ****...but the first thing you learn when reading is how to flash the modem using ODIN...so, yeah....
Since you've f'd up the phone already. Download the restore to stock files and odin. Go to someone with a PC and follow the restore directions to the T. DO NOT FALTER.
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The phone is working fine, if not better than before.

TheFake said:
The phone is working fine, if not better than before.
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Honestly, you haven't done anything to your phone yet, so it shouldn't be running any differently than it was before.
There is a way to push CWM using ADB and Terminal on a Mac, but you would still need Odin to flash the modem, so might as well do everything that way. Download this Odin package from Android Central, and flash that using the PDA box in Odin. After that, you can flash a different 2.2 ROM or theme if you like

The only thing I am having trouble with is how to "flash" something.

TheFake said:
The only thing I am having trouble with is how to "flash" something.
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Go to the Eb01 modem thread and read it. They will tell you how to "flash". You download the modem, plug in your phone, select PDA in ODIN and hit write or whatever...
It's as easy as reading and searching,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948679
Not searching for things will get you flamed, ignored and banned (If not reading the rules). The reason I suggested you flash back to complete stock is because until you know what flashing is, difference between a ROM and a Radio...you are in dangerous territory of bricking your phone.

Guys, I'm also new to this flashing thing, but I've used Odin before and have read all the steps in the EB01 thread. My question is: can I install EB01 on top of stock, unmodded EA28 (which is the latest Eclair from Verizon) without wiping my data? All sets of instructions I've read include wiping, wiping, wiping... But since the new ROM is supposedly signed with the same Samsung/Verizon key as my current ROM, why shouldn't I be able to just install it on top, without wiping my data?
Or is it that because the guy who posted the ROM actually modified it, it's no longer signed with the Samsung or Verizon key?
I searched, but didn't find. I think the answer to this may be relevant to the original poster of this thread too, that's why I'm posting here.

thetodor said:
Guys, I'm also new to this flashing thing, but I've used Odin before and have read all the steps in the EB01 thread. My question is: can I install EB01 on top of stock, unmodded EA28 (which is the latest Eclair from Verizon) without wiping my data? All sets of instructions I've read include wiping, wiping, wiping... But since the new ROM is supposedly signed with the same Samsung/Verizon key as my current ROM, why shouldn't I be able to just install it on top, without wiping my data?
Or is it that because the guy who posted the ROM actually modified it, it's no longer signed with the Samsung or Verizon key?
I searched, but didn't find. I think the answer to this may be relevant to the original poster of this thread too, that's why I'm posting here.
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It's always recommended to wipe. Those that don't are typically those who end up complaining about bad battery life, force close loops and utter suckageness...now flashing let's say super clean 2.0 to 2.2...that's fine bypassing the wipe, but imho that's the only exception.

thetodor said:
Guys, I'm also new to this flashing thing, but I've used Odin before and have read all the steps in the EB01 thread. My question is: can I install EB01 on top of stock, unmodded EA28 (which is the latest Eclair from Verizon) without wiping my data? All sets of instructions I've read include wiping, wiping, wiping... But since the new ROM is supposedly signed with the same Samsung/Verizon key as my current ROM, why shouldn't I be able to just install it on top, without wiping my data?
Or is it that because the guy who posted the ROM actually modified it, it's no longer signed with the Samsung or Verizon key?
I searched, but didn't find. I think the answer to this may be relevant to the original poster of this thread too, that's why I'm posting here.
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You can install without wiping (saying from experience) as long as you dont mind problems later. I had plenty of force close problems and widget problems when I didnt wipe data.
Most ROM here are modified, to help protect the person who leaked it.

Interesting. Do we know the cause of those problems? How come no such problems exist when you update OTA with a similar official build?
I'm a developer and it seems weird to me that if you're starting with a stock ROM and upgrading to another stock ROM, apps will have issues. Or are the issues due to the fact that the newer ROM is still buggy (and that's probably why they haven't officially released it yet)?
Also, it doesn't hurt to try, right? And if I do get problems, THEN I can just do a simple wipe and start off clean. But if I don't have huge problems, I don't have to go through the trouble of restoring all my apps and settings, logging into everything again, etc.

it's not hard to restore apps/data, use titanium backup.
go ahead and try it without wiping, just do a full nandroid backup first. then if it sucks or you get funny errors you can revert really easily. I'd wipe with a major change like this, but if you're determined to try it there's really no big downside. just back up!
I ran EB01 over the weekend, didn't like a couple of things and was back up and running on DL09 in no time when I decided to switch back.

Its recommended to wipe but I've seen it a lot where u OK not wiping... u can try without and it u get bootloop just do a wipe. Like posted...titanium backup is ur bff when I mod.
Also about the post about me being rude.. I gave u the info u need...just telling you to research. U said u did, and I pointed out u didn't. If your not going to take the time to learn what ur doing...then expect help ASAP...expect ppl to b a bit rude. Ppl are welcome to help...but if u do something dumb without research...expect people to tell you.
Glad u got it working ok
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Just FYI everyone, I was able to to install Froyo without wiping and everything works fine. (except that my home screen shortcuts and maybe even some of my settings got reset... which was one of the things I was trying to avoid... but whatever.). The only issue I've run into so far is that Google Maps hangs for many seconds every once in a while. But I reset its internal cache and it's better now. All other apps are working fine.

umm "TheFake" is obviously a troll
nobody is that stupid, and his screen name gives it away

[SOLVED] Vibrant Root Concerns

Hey there. I rooted my Vibrant successfully, but realized I left some important things out. I used this guide to root my Vibrant: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723479
The problems:
1) I can't nandroid (not that I need to, I only have 4 apps)
2) I would like to install either Miui v4 or CyanogenMod 9 but cannot as my recovery screen does not show me the options to do so (I only get the 4 options you normally would get unrooted, such as "Reinstall Packages"), so I'm stuck with the lame default homescreen.
3) I'm currently on 2.1-update1; should I upgrade to 2.2? If so, must I unroot to upgrade, and then reroot? And if this were the case, how do you unroot, and can I reroot using the same method in the link above?
Also, I was looking at this guide: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Sa...te_Guide#Installing_the_ClockworkMod_Recovery
and noticed the line "This guide assumes the Samsung Vibrant already has Android 2.2 build UVKB5 already installed on it."
Does this mean 2.2 is required to install the CWM Recovery?
Thank you.

I'm not sure how you don't have CWM recovery if you followed the guide as it is written. Maybe its because the 2.1 is updated? I would do the following and see if that's all it takes. You definitely don't want to update to stock 2.2 via Kies or anything of that nature.
Worst case scenario, we can have you Odin back to stock JFD. You'll be smooth sailing from there.
Search the forums and find the update.zip for CWM for our Vibrant.
Put that on the lowest level of your INTERNAL storage. Not your microsd card. For example f:\update.zip
Now go to your boring 4 option stock recovery and select reinstall packages. It will reboot to the same boring screen. Select reinstall packages again, and it will reboot into Clockwork Mod Recovery.
Let me know if that does anything for you. Also what version of stock recovery do you have?

Toast6977 said:
Search the forums and find the update.zip for CWM for our Vibrant.
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Can pull that directly from my signature, if OP wants. (Only works on Eclair [JFD] build btw)
Also OP, You will have to have a ROM that you are going to want to flash saved on your Internal SD card. Jsut download it, put in a folder and follow the ROM OP's instructions. Since you are fresh and new, I would NOT suggest flashing anything of ICS or JB until you get the hang of things first.
Read, read and then read somemore. When it comes time to flash ICS or beyond, there is a guide in my signature. Good luck and make sure to hit Toast's "Thanks" button. He is a good asset to have around here.

Wow! I was hesitant to even check today, let it alone this early! Did not think that I would have two very useful replies waiting for me. Thanks guys, much appreciated!
I'll try the Odin thing out first before I even try to flash (you need root first before flashing, I'm assuming). Just out of curiosity, what is JFD and Odin? I'm still gonna try it out using the guides found here, but just curious.
EDIT: Damn, it worked like a charm! Now I have CWM. The mistake I made was that I only installed the Superuser/ROOT and not both. Gonna play with it for a bit now

I'm glad that your issue was solved
If you have any other questions/issues feel free to hit us up. We tend to lurk around these parts from time to time.
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Toast6977 said:
I'm glad that your issue was solved
If you have any other questions/issues feel free to hit us up. We tend to lurk around these parts from time to time.
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Thank you for teaching me the etiquette around here as well