Thought maybe by now someone would make a workable flashable zip to flash basically stock vibrant firmware with the nand fix (the real method, not with 130 mb limit). If it is out there I apologize, but i'm almost sure I haven't seen it on here. And I'm referring to flashing via clockwork recovery. I've come from a G1 and really never had to do anything but download and hit the "flash any zip" option from recovery, and its a method i'm most comfortable with. Thanks for any direction you might provide.
This ROM doesn't use the NAND, it uses an EXT2/EXT3 partition on your SD card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743506
javacody said:
This ROM doesn't use the NAND, it uses an EXT2/EXT3 partition on your SD card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743506
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How is it working for you?
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Thought maybe by now someone would make a workable flashable zip to flash basically stock vibrant firmware with the nand fix (the real method, not with 130 mb limit). If it is out there I apologize, but i'm almost sure I haven't seen it on here. And I'm referring to flashing via clockwork recovery. I've come from a G1 and really never had to do anything but download and hit the "flash any zip" option from recovery, and its a method i'm most comfortable with. Thanks for any direction you might provide.
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..since there is no way to magically make nand bigger than 128 megs (without soldering new chips on) I suspect "the real method" is the apps2sd method..
Disconn3ct said:
..since there is no way to magically make nand bigger than 128 megs (without soldering new chips on) I suspect "the real method" is the apps2sd method..
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Both Methods require ROOT*
*Method 1 limits the space of app data, which can possibly cause issues*
*Method 2 requires writing a new Kernel, which comes with it's own possible issues*
I'm just getting irritated. I have a 1ghz phone with lag/gps problems. It seems whenever I need to whip out my phone for something quick those are always the times it screws up too, so i get 10x more frustrated but I didn't want this to become a phone i'm constantly flashing and its already happening because it wasn't made right in the first place. Anyone with lag fix able to post a backup they might have made? I'm just looking for solutions, and easier ways to get there.
Plus maybe i'm just biased but creating an EXT? I thought those days were over when I cashed in my G1. I just dont understand how using an ext on your SD can be faster than storing the data internally.
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Plus maybe i'm just biased but creating an EXT? I thought those days were over when I cashed in my G1. I just dont understand how using an ext on your SD can be faster than storing the data internally.
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Read the linked thread above and you'll learn. It's pretty simple.
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Read the linked thread above and you'll learn. It's pretty simple.
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So I need to create an EXT partition first before flashing the above mentioned ROM? What are the recommended settings if any for size? And I partition through clockwork orrrr? I know there's probably an answer for all these questions but between people using UK firmware/unfamiliar terms I don't want to jump into anything without missing a step.
Just go to the userinit thread and apply it... No need to flash a whole rom... Just partition your sd and flash the zip...
I ran jf rom on my g1 for like 2 months before a rom that dramatically changed anything...
We were so gracious for just that... Be patient this is new hardware.. Look at the international development section... We have made a lot of progress in 3 weeks..
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Why waste time asking questions when you can answer them yourself?
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Why waste time asking questions when you can answer them yourself?
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I dunno, why waste time posting that question when you can simply read on if you have no advice? The strange things we do. And yes it is new hardware, hence why I ask these questions before I dive into something I'm unfamiliar with. Id rather ask questions and wait than waste hours trying to get my phone to turn on again after jumping the gun. My question that still stands is with the partitioning. With my g1, it was cut and dry on Amon Ra, did it right in recovery, so is there anything like that for us vibrant owners? I've never used ADB or anything of that nature, so I come from a download and flash world, so excuse my unfamiliarity and please dont take it as me complaining that it's not easy enough to do.
Look how long it took for the g1 to get where it is at now? Eventually it will come. You think your the only who would like to have a lag free rom? If you would have done some reading on the development side, you would have noticed there were a couple of fixes and also some progress. Ask questions on those threads over there as far as the speed and if it will suit your needs.
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I dunno, why waste time posting that question when you can simply read on if you have no advice? The strange things we do. And yes it is new hardware, hence why I ask these questions before I dive into something I'm unfamiliar with. Id rather ask questions and wait than waste hours trying to get my phone to turn on again after jumping the gun. My question that still stands is with the partitioning. With my g1, it was cut and dry on Amon Ra, did it right in recovery, so is there anything like that for us vibrant owners? I've never used ADB or anything of that nature, so I come from a download and flash world, so excuse my unfamiliarity and please dont take it as me complaining that it's not easy enough to do.
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Learn ADB if you want to hack a Vibrant. Without a keyboard, we can't do shells in recovery without it. There are tutorials, so I won't repeat them. Logcat is also very useful and low level devs won't be able to help you if you run into problems and can't provide a log.
Partitioning. DO NOT USE CLOCKWORK/ROM MANAGER. Right now it will partition the phone's INTERNAL flash, which is cause boot loops and you will have to Odin flash the phone back to stock to make it boot again. Use a computer and a card reader with Paragon, Gpartd, etc.. Or a G1 with Amon RA, or adb shell into clockwork recovery and use fdisk.
EXT size, doesn't really matter. You don't need a ton. I use 1GB and it's using about 180MB. For EXT type, use ext3 with the stock kernel, or, if you install JACs kernel, ext4 is faster and more reliable.
Note that partitioning on the phone in recovery via fdisk won't format the partitions. Flash my e2fsprogs ZIP file in JACs kernel thread for the versions that support ext4.
Before you start messing with this stuff, download the stock Odin flash files from the thread in development. If you mess something up, you can get back to stock. You should also get ADB and the Samsung drivers installed. Then get Titanium backup and make backups. When you install Clockwork, do a nandroid as well. Backups are GOOD.
Keep in mind, we are in the early stages of learning how to hack on these phones. We won't get to the level the G1 is at for a while. Go read the threads in the G1 dev forum from a year ago and you will see a lot of recommendations for learning adb, partitioning manually, and all the other stuff we are doing here on the Vibrant. It's a process. If you want flash and forget, you need to wait a while still. We're working on it, but we aren't there yet. This is new hardware and a whole new way of doing things.
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Learn ADB if you want to hack a Vibrant. Without a keyboard, we can't do shells in recovery without it. There are tutorials, so I won't repeat them. Logcat is also very useful and low level devs won't be able to help you if you run into problems and can't provide a log.
Partitioning. DO NOT USE CLOCKWORK/ROM MANAGER. Right now it will partition the phone's INTERNAL flash, which is cause boot loops and you will have to Odin flash the phone back to stock to make it boot again. Use a computer and a card reader with Paragon, Gpartd, etc.. Or a G1 with Amon RA, or adb shell into clockwork recovery and use fdisk.
EXT size, doesn't really matter. You don't need a ton. I use 1GB and it's using about 180MB. For EXT type, use ext3 with the stock kernel, or, if you install JACs kernel, ext4 is faster and more reliable.
Note that partitioning on the phone in recovery via fdisk won't format the partitions. Flash my e2fsprogs ZIP file in JACs kernel thread for the versions that support ext4.
Before you start messing with this stuff, download the stock Odin flash files from the thread in development. If you mess something up, you can get back to stock. You should also get ADB and the Samsung drivers installed. Then get Titanium backup and make backups. When you install Clockwork, do a nandroid as well. Backups are GOOD.
Keep in mind, we are in the early stages of learning how to hack on these phones. We won't get to the level the G1 is at for a while. Go read the threads in the G1 dev forum from a year ago and you will see a lot of recommendations for learning adb, partitioning manually, and all the other stuff we are doing here on the Vibrant. It's a process. If you want flash and forget, you need to wait a while still. We're working on it, but we aren't there yet. This is new hardware and a whole new way of doing things.
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Thank you very much. Now this is a respectable response. i'll find some time next week to learn this ADB stuff.
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I dunno, why waste time posting that question when you can simply read on if you have no advice? The strange things we do. And yes it is new hardware, hence why I ask these questions before I dive into something I'm unfamiliar with. Id rather ask questions and wait than waste hours trying to get my phone to turn on again after jumping the gun. My question that still stands is with the partitioning. With my g1, it was cut and dry on Amon Ra, did it right in recovery, so is there anything like that for us vibrant owners? I've never used ADB or anything of that nature, so I come from a download and flash world, so excuse my unfamiliarity and please dont take it as me complaining that it's not easy enough to do.
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No one is asking you to take a chance on bricking your phone hard or soft. I was implying more that you could learn or develop your knowledge of what others have placed in front of you. Everything takes time, rather "wasting" it on a procedure you don't understand, "waste" it on learning it, then do it. You have everything you want to know right in front of you. If you searched and read hard enough you'd now be able to "answer the questions yourself" to where you understand it.
Oh and just to let you know there is a flashable "lag-free" Rom in the Dev forum. While its bare, it is still doing wonders on this phone!
@ttabbal- You're the man!!! Don't know how you do it... lol
could someone that doesn't mind walking me through the correct partitioning method and getting this rom to work at it's max.. send me a private message so we can talk through gtalk tonight?. Im a fast learner, just purchased an 8gb class 4 sd card. I want to be safe.
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@ttabbal- You're the man!!! Don't know how you do it... lol
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I'm glad my stuff has been useful to the community. I'm a little shocked to see it integrated into a ROM and a kernel so far.
As for how I do it, what's the quote about standing on the shoulders of giants? I learned a ton reading posts and scripts from Cyanogen, Firerat, Eugene, and many others. Combine that with running Linux boxes for a few years, and you pick up enough to contribute a bit. Most of what I'm doing is adapting G1 hacks to work on the Vibrant, but I'm glad people like them.
Now if we could just get Samsung to give us decent GPS and compass drivers, maybe a tasty Froyo?
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How is it working for you?
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Haven't tried it yet, my friend.
I'm using the patch mentioned above.
I am also using ADW instead of TouchWiz, which seems to help quite a bit.
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How beneficial is it to do this? Should I wait for better ROMs? I am nervous about rooting my device as many are defective after a week or two and need shipped back.
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Between problems with Clockwork recovery and being unable to read a ROM on my SD card (signature won't verify) has caused me to just stay rooted. If anyone has advice on how I can flash a rom with the above issues let me know.
Could I have screwed up unlocking nand protection?
It sounds like you should stick with the stock ROM.
If you simply follow the directions it isn't difficult.
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If you simply follow the directions it isn't difficult.
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exactly, which is why "It sounds like you should stick with the stock ROM" will be the best for All of us.
jgarozzo said:
Between problems with Clockwork recovery and being unable to read a ROM on my SD card (signature won't verify) has caused me to just stay rooted. If anyone has advice on how I can flash a rom with the above issues let me know.
Could I have screwed up unlocking nand protection?
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Why dont you flash stock RUU then follow toast root tutorial 1 and 2?
Your first problem was not using toast method and the more stable recovery. Second is giving up without trying them.
Unrevoked and clockwork are not as functional mostly because the clockwork recovery doesn't properly wipe or devices. This causes serious issues when you go to flash a new rom.
People use them because they are easy and are to lazy to read the thread so don't realize the issues. Then get frustrated when it doesn't work.
Are you rooted yet? If not, I used neckface's step by step method cuz I had problems setting up ADB. It takes a bit longer, but is very straight forward. I also used Amon Ra's recovery(really liked it on my G1) Once you're rooted flashing is easy. Just make sure whatever rom you use to READ all the instructions. Also, make sure your sd card isn't corrupt and that the roms are on the root of your card. Hope this helps, there are alot of benefits to full root and using the great roms they have out for our phones.
I did root toasts method
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I did root toasts method
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Where are you now, i mean only root with no custom recovery?
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I did root toasts method
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Clockwork recovery isn't used with toasts method, it is a modified Amon Ra recovery. If you are rooted, I would go do toasts part 2 again. at the end you will flash the recovery and shouldn't have any problems, make sure you wipe data, davlik cache and cache with that recovery before flashing a new ROM.
Edit: Ok, when I downloaded the files from toasts method 2 wasn't clockworkmod recovery. Thought I better caveat that just in case something changed in the last couple weeks.
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Between problems with Clockwork recovery and being unable to read a ROM on my SD card (signature won't verify) has caused me to just stay rooted. If anyone has advice on how I can flash a rom with the above issues let me know.
Could I have screwed up unlocking nand protection?
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Have you tried formating your sd card i was having problems with my phone not reading the roms on my sd card and formated it and haven't had the problem since.
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It sounds like you should stick with the stock ROM.
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yeah, i have to agree.. ive unlocked my windows mobile phones but never rooted until i got my evo.. i was a little nervous but the tutorials are very nice and easily explained.. just followed each step one after another without rushing until everything was good to go.. i have no interest in trying out froyo since a few things arent working at the moment but in actuality you wont have any problems if you are just patient.. i only use fresh roms because ive learned thats the rom of my choice, ive tried others but always went back to fresh so basically im just sticking to whatever flipz releases.. most ppl that indupt having issues are those that rushed the latest ota after it is constantly said to just wait for the devs to add it to their roms.. just be patient and follow the directions slowly and you should be good! and dont give up, when you get stuck you can always come to the forums.. ohh and instead of just creating a new thread of the same questions over and over and over again just start reading around because you will read someone having issues that you havent come across yet and when you actually do run into those problems you will already know how to fix them.. heres a fine example to unroot just load the stock RUU, that questions has been asked over and over again yet ppl that like to be spoonfed just create a new topic instead of using the search button.. i wasnt even sure how to unroot until i read the first topic that was created and since then lazy ppl keep asking that question instead of reading.. ppl are hear to help at xda, but it doesnt get annoying helping those that are just plain out lazy! dont give up bro.. just keep reading, we were all newbies at one time
now as to the reason why i quoted.. if your planning on just giving up when you have issues then sticking to stock is really just the best thing to prevent you from getting frustrated
lol, wow I just saw your two other threads you started. If you are having problems, really, just start back from the beginning and start over. Maybe you forgot to wipe, or as someone else mentioned try formatting your sd card, etc.
starting from scratch and I can't get it to read the pc36img.zip file to root
Have you tried this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915
Did you do the last update?
agreed. start over and do the Toast1 and Toast2 then install RaAmon. I personally like Flipz ROMs. i followed the steps provide to flash the FreshROM and all went well.
move slowly. if something fails, come back and RTFM before you move on blindly.
good luck.
for more help, i'd suggest you include some amount of detail. most folks out here are looking for help/advice. think of it this way...when you go to the doctor or dentist what do they need to know? what/where/when/how/etc ... you don't ONLY say "doc, i'm broke". you say what is wrong/what did you do, where it hurts, when did it work last, how did you get to this point, etc.
in the same way, if you simply say "i can't make it work"...well, we don't really care. but if you say, "i'm stuck at this point. i tried yadayadayada", then the nerds in this community will be unable to prevent themselves from chiming in. it's part of a nerds personality.
if you have read the documentation and followed it, you should have an idea as to which step failed. let's start there.
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I power off and power on and looks ready to read the PCIMG36.zip (goes 4 lines down) and then nothing. It wont read the file. I have tried a variety of pc36img.zip files and a variety of microSD cards, same result, it doesn't read and the progress bar doesn't show.
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I'm going to have to agree with you! I am no programmer or hacker but can follow direction and I have tried many of the different way to root my phone so I could tether it and they are all incomplete, missing some part of the equasion. I was able to tether my instintHD in like 5 mins and I have been messing with this for hours.
Start from scratch and use the simple root app. I would also refrain feom doing nand unlocking as I had problems where I would actually lose privilages with that.
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Between problems with Clockwork recovery and being unable to read a ROM on my SD card (signature won't verify) has caused me to just stay rooted. If anyone has advice on how I can flash a rom with the above issues let me know.
Could I have screwed up unlocking nand protection?
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Stick with stock
When I found out that 2.2 wasnt coming out from this phone I decided that I would root the phone and load a 2.2 ROM, etc. etc. So I started researching all of these about 2 days ago... and for the past 2 days I have read so much information on this that I am now currently so mixed up and lost. There are soooo many different ROMs, different ways to do this, that, etc. I see some people do one thing that it works great, another person do the exact same thing and they havent the same luck.
Even when getting ready to just root the phone, I found an awesome post that had great information... but, then when I looked at it the post was from 7 months ago and in the N1 forums. So, I started to 2nd guess.
I suppose basically what Im in need of is possibly a normal/basic recommendation to get moving on this... Would a possible recommendation be to root the phone with the 1 click root being run through a file manager, then create a nandroid backup, then go with something popular like Cyanogen6 RC1? Its just that mod -seems- to be what a good bit of people have, and problems seem limited on it. But then again, ive read about 10 other ROMs that appear to be just as good, and people like just as well... so agian, this choice leaves me frozen as well.
Im just so overwhelmed with information ive just about frozen up... I think it need to bring it back to a basic simple plan to get moving on this. Everything I read in these forums sounds so awesome and just plain ole fun.... but like I said im currently frozen/lost. Please help if my request isnt too much...
Thanks! Any help with this will definitely melt this horrid ice!!!
Use this to root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=753910
Just do as it says and follow directions. I rooted both of my brother's phones this way. It works.
Then do as you were thinking: nandroid then install CM6 RC1. It will probably be your best bet for a solid 2.2 experience.
here's what I posted on my carriers facebook page. I kept things simple and to the point, and the point was to install 2.2 on a hero.
1. go to settings, applications and check allow installation from unknown sources.
2. install bar code scanner from the market if you don't have it.
3. scan the qr code from here: http://bit.ly/d1f0RN
4. download and install the app
5. open universal androot and click root
6. go to the market and download rom manager
7. open rom manager and click flash clockwork mod recovery
8. click backup current rom (you can always restore your backup later to go back to exactly how your phone was)
to load the rom after rooting:
1. download both the rom and google apps from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755795
2. copy the zip files to your sd card
3. open rom manager and click install rom from sd card
4. choose the rom file you copied to the sd card and click add zip, then choose the google apps file you downloaded earlier. Click ok and choose backup current rom and wipe data.
5. Enjoy android 2.2 on your Hero!!
(be careful restoring stuff using mybackup, open source roms and htc roms don't store data the same way. applications are safe to restore but system settings can potentially break things requiring you to wipe and reload again)
Not because it is my root method, but I would actually recommend using my root method and following all of the steps. It has you flash a custom recovery and patched boot.img so you keep full root via adb.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
CM6 is the ONLY 2.2 ROM for the Hero at this point. But know that it doesn't have much of the Sprint/CDMA or HTC SenseUI functionality and stuff that you're used to from your current phone....like updating Profile and PRL; Sprint Navigation/Football/Nascar/etc.; your Contacts, Dialer, Messaging, and some other menus will be a little different....that's just a few things off the top of my head.
So if you kinda LIKE the way your phone is now (except maybe for some lag/slowness), CM6 won't be a very similar ROM. But you won't know unless you try it out Just offering some helpful info. Good luck -- we're here to help.
I have not found a 2.2 FroYo that I like for the Hero, it's rooted and running Fresh 2.3.3
http://geekfor.me/new-release/fresh-hero-233/
Awesome... the community here is absolutely incredible. Although I am literally tryin my best to read the ****in manual, I continue to fear that im reading something too old or outdated, or that there is something newer (easier) that I should be doing instead. I did the rooting with the 1click which was so simple... I cant believe I even spent that much time on it.
Thinking next the nandroid/recovery image thing would be a breeze, but it appears to almost be the hardest step. I see on most posts that they always tend to mention Nandroid for backups - is there a particular reason that I should use that one? Some other ones appear to be easier, but not as interesting or fun. However, im fearfully coming across a lack of exact guides that explain the process.
I truly think that once I can get the recovery image done, and I can start trying out other ROMs and such... this will become too much fun. But again, im getting so mixed up by should i do this, that, or maybe this... or wait, is that too old of information?
Regardless, thanks for all the help!
Download ROM Manager from the Market. From ROM Manager you can flash ClockworkMod recovery or Flash Alternate Recovery (I prefer this option RA Recovery) there is a newer relase but this works fine.
You can then reboot and go into recovery, back up your system as it is right now, that way you can always go back to the basic root version that you have right now. That my friend is a Nandriod back up. now you can install a ROM of your choice, once it is installed and functioning the way you like make a Nandriod back up of it, that way you always have a good platform to start from if anything isn't playing nice.
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When I found out that 2.2 wasnt coming out from this phone I decided that I would root the phone and load a 2.2 ROM, etc. etc. So I started researching all of these about 2 days ago... and for the past 2 days I have read so much information on this that I am now currently so mixed up and lost. There are soooo many different ROMs, different ways to do this, that, etc. I see some people do one thing that it works great, another person do the exact same thing and they havent the same luck.
Even when getting ready to just root the phone, I found an awesome post that had great information... but, then when I looked at it the post was from 7 months ago and in the N1 forums. So, I started to 2nd guess.
I suppose basically what Im in need of is possibly a normal/basic recommendation to get moving on this... Would a possible recommendation be to root the phone with the 1 click root being run through a file manager, then create a nandroid backup, then go with something popular like Cyanogen6 RC1? Its just that mod -seems- to be what a good bit of people have, and problems seem limited on it. But then again, ive read about 10 other ROMs that appear to be just as good, and people like just as well... so agian, this choice leaves me frozen as well.
Im just so overwhelmed with information ive just about frozen up... I think it need to bring it back to a basic simple plan to get moving on this. Everything I read in these forums sounds so awesome and just plain ole fun.... but like I said im currently frozen/lost. Please help if my request isnt too much...
Thanks! Any help with this will definitely melt this horrid ice!!!
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I know exactly what you mean. I've rooted my Hero the day the universal 1 click came out,but as yet have been reading everything I can on which new Rom to install first.
I went out and bought a new 16 gig sd card for more storage as well. I've been trying to read up on how and what is the best way to do all of the various partitions on it cause some say to just have a ext 2 partition,and others say have a ext3/4 partitions on it.Unfortunately I haven't found a easy way to make this happen except by using the FroydVillain 1.4.3 rom and I don't know if it will work with a cdma Sprint Hero or not yet.
I love the phone,and want to upgrade it to the best stable over clocked rom that will allow me to use it for everyday usage,but it doesn't look like it is going to easy as rooting the damn thing was. Seems to me that you need to be a programmer in Linux to make it work the best
I hate posting a bunch of neewb questions about it but I guess I will
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Awesome! Okay perfect... it worked perfect! I know have CyanogenMod running - yeah, it def different. Seems like it will take some time to get used too. Esp since its so far from SenseUI off the bat... err well, just the way that it handles things and such.
I will definitely give it a fair shot before I even try out some other ones... but I def want to try to use one of those Fresh Roms as well.
Thanks a ton for all the help! Most appreciated!
Hey Guys, I'm new here. I just got the Samsung Vibrant and Rod from NTH referred me to here. So... Thanks to him I found you guys.
Hello, welcome to the Vibrant community. Make sure to read all the stickies before you post any questions as they have probably been answered hundreds of times over.
Are you darkside79 ' s little brother? I know its corny.
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Welcome! Have a good time here and through out the rest of xda. There are some really talented people on this site.
We are blessed enough to have a lot of them here in this forum.
Just make sure you read read and read some more
First thing I did when I got here was looked at the stickies.
I said to myself " oh crap what this odin bit" omg what does this mean.
So my first suggestion to you is learn odin real fast. It may save you.
You picked a very good phone, hard to brick and easy to load new roms.
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So my first suggestion to you is learn odin real fast. It may save you.
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You'll only need to use ODIN if you let things get that bad. Root, Download ROM Manager from the Market, flash Clockwork receovery and then read up on it. I know this may sound like gibberish now, but that will change. You shouldn't need to use ODIN if you learn / practice proper usage of Clockwork flashing / and nandroid backups. ODIN requires a Windows PC and a cable both of which can fail. Clockwork only requires your phone so there's less to go wrong.
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You'll only need to use ODIN if you let things get that bad. Root, Download ROM Manager from the Market, flash Clockwork and then read up on it. You shouldn't need to use ODIN if you learn / practice proper usage of Clockwork flashing / and nandroid backups. ODIN requires a Windows PC and a cable both of which can fail. Clockwork only requires your phone so there's less to go wrong.
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I didnt say he had to use it all the time. I just stated it was something he should know how to do. among other things.
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I didnt say he had to use it all the time. I just stated it was something he should know how to do. among other things.
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I know you didn't. I just didn't agree with it being among the first things I'd suggest to a noob. After learning about rooting, ROM Manager, nandroid backup / restore, flashing through clockwork, etc...sure.
I have the Samsung Fascinate and I recently rooted it to get all the wonderful benefits that come with rooting.
I downloaded the leaked Froyo update, renamed it "update.zip" and put it in my sd card folder in order to update.
I then turned off my phone and pushed the power button plus the volume up and down until I got to the boot screen. I kept getting an error saying it couldn't verify the package (or something along those lines) and then it sent me to a screen with the triangle, exclamation point and the little droid guy.
I also tried using Rom Manager but the same thing happened.
I hear you are supposed to use Odin, but I am running on a mac and Odin is a windows application.
Please help me, I'm desperate to get the Froyo update on my device.
Thanks in advance.
Yikes u didn't do any research at all did you?? U can't use Odin on Mac....and u need it. Do u even have cwm? Probably not since u didn't Odin. U need to Odin cwm...Make a backup...Odin eb01 modem...flash rom. Update.zip is not correct...u don't rename .zip roms...you flash them via cwm. Not trying to bash u....but you are way off...and getting help via forums will b tough.
You need to go to irc and be polite and find some help there. Someone should hopefully be able to help you...I will b on eventually.
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I did my research but if I'm not literate with how or what a CWM is or how to use it, that doesn't mean I didn't do my research.
But are you telling me I can't install the update without a windows computer?
I have access to one where I am but I would rather know all the steps before I get on someone else's computer and start trying to figure it out there.
I looked through all 50 or so pages of the Froyo leaked thread and I saw a few people who understood all these things, but if I don't understand and there isn't a tutorial it makes it harder for me to accomplish my goal.
Can your phone boot up?
Someone varify my directions.
This might work if u can get into download mode. U need to find all the links urself since I'm on tapatalk.
First off...find a pc. Without one you can't do anything. Put ur eb01 rom on sdcard for later. Instal the 32 bit or 64 bit Samsung drivers depending on ur pc. For many..its the 32 bit. Then get Odin. U will need to find a link to cwm...if I'm not mistaking there is one on like the 2nd or 3rd page in android development section...will say updated cwmq for dj05 or dl09 or something like that. Find directions of how to use Odin...but simply place the cwm.tar file in the pda section on Odin...then click start. When that's done...u should make a backup...however...u may not b able to boot up because of what u have already done. U may try odining the eb01 modem. Once u have that done...hold up down and power to get I to your new updated cwm. From there click instal zip from sdcard...and flash ur eb01 rom of choice....wipe wipe wipe...reboot system.
Again...this may not work since I'm not possitive what u already did to ur phone by not doing your research. Like I already said...be polite and head over to irc. .someone will have more time than I do to fix ur phone.
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You obviously didn't research. There is an eb01 walkthrough on fascinate development section...impossible to miss. If ur incompetent at following step by step directions u should not be Modding your phone. Seek help and knowledge before doing anything...u don't want a 600 dollar paper clip do you?
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kyfredrickson said:
You obviously didn't research. There is an eb01 walkthrough on fascinate development section...impossible to miss. If ur incompetent at following step by step directions u should not be Modding your phone. Seek help and knowledge before doing anything...u don't want a 600 dollar paper clip do you?
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How would you use it as a paper clip? A paper weight I see, but not a paper clip?!?!
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I did my research but if I'm not literate with how or what a CWM is or how to use it, that doesn't mean I didn't do my research.
But are you telling me I can't install the update without a windows computer?
I have access to one where I am but I would rather know all the steps before I get on someone else's computer and start trying to figure it out there.
I looked through all 50 or so pages of the Froyo leaked thread and I saw a few people who understood all these things, but if I don't understand and there isn't a tutorial it makes it harder for me to accomplish my goal.
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Not to be a ****...but the first thing you learn when reading is how to flash the modem using ODIN...so, yeah....
Since you've f'd up the phone already. Download the restore to stock files and odin. Go to someone with a PC and follow the restore directions to the T. DO NOT FALTER.
kyfredrickson said:
You obviously didn't research. There is an eb01 walkthrough on fascinate development section...impossible to miss. If ur incompetent at following step by step directions u should not be Modding your phone. Seek help and knowledge before doing anything...u don't want a 600 dollar paper clip do you?
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No, but I also don't see the need for the disrespectful way you are treating someone looking for help.
Not everyone out there is as "smart" as you may be with modding but that's what this forum is for. Questions and answers, not smartass replies that don't help at all.
I appreciate the other posters response because at least he gave me information with no attitude. If you want to help someone, help them, don't demean them and offer a little advice.
jenisiz said:
Not to be a ****...but the first thing you learn when reading is how to flash the modem using ODIN...so, yeah....
Since you've f'd up the phone already. Download the restore to stock files and odin. Go to someone with a PC and follow the restore directions to the T. DO NOT FALTER.
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The phone is working fine, if not better than before.
TheFake said:
The phone is working fine, if not better than before.
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Honestly, you haven't done anything to your phone yet, so it shouldn't be running any differently than it was before.
There is a way to push CWM using ADB and Terminal on a Mac, but you would still need Odin to flash the modem, so might as well do everything that way. Download this Odin package from Android Central, and flash that using the PDA box in Odin. After that, you can flash a different 2.2 ROM or theme if you like
The only thing I am having trouble with is how to "flash" something.
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The only thing I am having trouble with is how to "flash" something.
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Go to the Eb01 modem thread and read it. They will tell you how to "flash". You download the modem, plug in your phone, select PDA in ODIN and hit write or whatever...
It's as easy as reading and searching,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948679
Not searching for things will get you flamed, ignored and banned (If not reading the rules). The reason I suggested you flash back to complete stock is because until you know what flashing is, difference between a ROM and a Radio...you are in dangerous territory of bricking your phone.
Guys, I'm also new to this flashing thing, but I've used Odin before and have read all the steps in the EB01 thread. My question is: can I install EB01 on top of stock, unmodded EA28 (which is the latest Eclair from Verizon) without wiping my data? All sets of instructions I've read include wiping, wiping, wiping... But since the new ROM is supposedly signed with the same Samsung/Verizon key as my current ROM, why shouldn't I be able to just install it on top, without wiping my data?
Or is it that because the guy who posted the ROM actually modified it, it's no longer signed with the Samsung or Verizon key?
I searched, but didn't find. I think the answer to this may be relevant to the original poster of this thread too, that's why I'm posting here.
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Guys, I'm also new to this flashing thing, but I've used Odin before and have read all the steps in the EB01 thread. My question is: can I install EB01 on top of stock, unmodded EA28 (which is the latest Eclair from Verizon) without wiping my data? All sets of instructions I've read include wiping, wiping, wiping... But since the new ROM is supposedly signed with the same Samsung/Verizon key as my current ROM, why shouldn't I be able to just install it on top, without wiping my data?
Or is it that because the guy who posted the ROM actually modified it, it's no longer signed with the Samsung or Verizon key?
I searched, but didn't find. I think the answer to this may be relevant to the original poster of this thread too, that's why I'm posting here.
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It's always recommended to wipe. Those that don't are typically those who end up complaining about bad battery life, force close loops and utter suckageness...now flashing let's say super clean 2.0 to 2.2...that's fine bypassing the wipe, but imho that's the only exception.
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Guys, I'm also new to this flashing thing, but I've used Odin before and have read all the steps in the EB01 thread. My question is: can I install EB01 on top of stock, unmodded EA28 (which is the latest Eclair from Verizon) without wiping my data? All sets of instructions I've read include wiping, wiping, wiping... But since the new ROM is supposedly signed with the same Samsung/Verizon key as my current ROM, why shouldn't I be able to just install it on top, without wiping my data?
Or is it that because the guy who posted the ROM actually modified it, it's no longer signed with the Samsung or Verizon key?
I searched, but didn't find. I think the answer to this may be relevant to the original poster of this thread too, that's why I'm posting here.
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You can install without wiping (saying from experience) as long as you dont mind problems later. I had plenty of force close problems and widget problems when I didnt wipe data.
Most ROM here are modified, to help protect the person who leaked it.
Interesting. Do we know the cause of those problems? How come no such problems exist when you update OTA with a similar official build?
I'm a developer and it seems weird to me that if you're starting with a stock ROM and upgrading to another stock ROM, apps will have issues. Or are the issues due to the fact that the newer ROM is still buggy (and that's probably why they haven't officially released it yet)?
Also, it doesn't hurt to try, right? And if I do get problems, THEN I can just do a simple wipe and start off clean. But if I don't have huge problems, I don't have to go through the trouble of restoring all my apps and settings, logging into everything again, etc.
it's not hard to restore apps/data, use titanium backup.
go ahead and try it without wiping, just do a full nandroid backup first. then if it sucks or you get funny errors you can revert really easily. I'd wipe with a major change like this, but if you're determined to try it there's really no big downside. just back up!
I ran EB01 over the weekend, didn't like a couple of things and was back up and running on DL09 in no time when I decided to switch back.
Its recommended to wipe but I've seen it a lot where u OK not wiping... u can try without and it u get bootloop just do a wipe. Like posted...titanium backup is ur bff when I mod.
Also about the post about me being rude.. I gave u the info u need...just telling you to research. U said u did, and I pointed out u didn't. If your not going to take the time to learn what ur doing...then expect help ASAP...expect ppl to b a bit rude. Ppl are welcome to help...but if u do something dumb without research...expect people to tell you.
Glad u got it working ok
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Just FYI everyone, I was able to to install Froyo without wiping and everything works fine. (except that my home screen shortcuts and maybe even some of my settings got reset... which was one of the things I was trying to avoid... but whatever.). The only issue I've run into so far is that Google Maps hangs for many seconds every once in a while. But I reset its internal cache and it's better now. All other apps are working fine.
umm "TheFake" is obviously a troll
nobody is that stupid, and his screen name gives it away
Hello guys,
please dont think i am lazy, i have read most of the topics here but i am now just more confused then before. There are so many solutions, do's and dont's that i have no idea how to do it.
I have managed to root my streak running android 2.2
I would like to flash it with a newer custom rom but i have no clue how to do it. Could please someone tell me step by step. I have downloaded half of the links shown here in the forum but still have no clue.
Also, could someone tell me what rom to pick. I wanted to flash the streakdroid 2 but i have read so many comments about low performance and other problems. Any other rom recommended.
Any help is greatly appreciated and i hope one day to be able to help others.
TIA
Ok first things first you need to flash streakmod or clockworkmod via fastboot. I prefer streakmod as I sometimes get errors with nandroiding on clockwork. Follow the guides for flashing custom recoveries in the threads for them. Once you've got a custom recovery just place the rom of your choice onto the root directory of your SD card (not in a folder). Then boot into recovery by holding volume up + power. At the first screen select option 2. The screen will turn black, press power. Once in the custom recovery select install update. Navigate to the custom rom and select it. Wait a minute for it to complete then select reboot. You're all set. I recommend booting back into recovery and doing a nandroid back up after you get everything set up. As far as roms go, I'd go for dj-steves 1.9.0 its the best IMO. Good luck!
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Use StreakMod Recovery if you want a custom ROM, To flash a stock ROM you use the stock recovery. See this thread for a tool to help you flash the recovery you need. The latest version of StreakMod eliminates the step of hitting the power button and the nandroid backups work.
For stability use the latest Strekdroid Froyo version (1.9.0), SimpleStreak or a stock ROM. Read the development section here for other options.
Here is a page of Streak related links, lots of stuff there you may want to look at.
dosada said:
Hello guys,
please dont think i am lazy, i have read most of the topics here but i am now just more confused then before. There are so many solutions, do's and dont's that i have no idea how to do it.
I have managed to root my streak running android 2.2
I would like to flash it with a newer custom rom but i have no clue how to do it. Could please someone tell me step by step. I have downloaded half of the links shown here in the forum but still have no clue.
Also, could someone tell me what rom to pick. I wanted to flash the streakdroid 2 but i have read so many comments about low performance and other problems. Any other rom recommended.
Any help is greatly appreciated and i hope one day to be able to help others.
TIA
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I don't have time to go into detailed steps for you right now, but here is what I can recommend:
Download and uncompress MultiRecovery Flasher from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000455
Flash StreakMod Recovery.
Download Simple Streak from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113256
Save this on the root of your sd card. For ease of use you can rename it update.zip
Install the drivers on your computer (assuming windows) for the Dell Streak. You can get them here:
ftp://ftp.dell.com/Handheld/R288920.exe
Reboot into fastboot mode. To do that, with the phone off, hold down the power button and the camera button at the same time. When the white screen comes on, release the buttons and then touch the fastboot "button" when presented on the screen. Now plug the usb cord in and the bottom of the phone should say something along the lines of Fastboot Mode or similar.
Run the MultiRecover Flasher and choose StreakMod Recovery. When this is done (it takes less than 1 minute normally), you need to boot into your new recovery. With the phone shut off, hold the power button and both volume buttons at the same time. When the screen with the 4 choices appears, choose option #2 (should be something about upgrading using update.pkg or similar). StreakMod will load. Browse the options here to see what's available. Go into advanced, then nandroid and make a full nandroid backup. This will take 5 - 10 minutes or so. Then do a data wipe/factory reset. Then the option to apply update.zip from sd card. If you had named your rom to update.zip and put it in the root of the sd card, choose update.zip from sd card again. If not, choose the other option and be presented with a list of files/folders on your sd card. Find your rom's .zip file and apply it. When it's done choose reboot now and enjoy. If you run into problems booting the first time, shut the phone down (it may require a battery pull to do so) and power on using the power button and both volume buttons and choose factory reset at that menu (this is the one you used to get into StreakMod recovery earlier). The device will end up rebooting twice (you really can't tell since it's always the Dell Logo, just takes longer) and you should be good to go.
If you have any questions, post them here and someone will be happy to help you along. I'm not an expert by no means, I've just done this several times as I like trying out the different Roms. The nandroid backup and restore options in Streakmod recovery is a godsend. If I install a rom and have problems, I can revert to what I had (settings, apps, layouts, everything) in just a few minutes with no computer required, all from the phone. Learn to love it.
I get so sick of all these retarded questions and threads.I have never seen anything like this...where EVERYTHING IS ANSWERED,EXPLAINED and still people say "Don't think I am lazy".
I know,if you don't have anything nice to say,don't say it...but this is way too much.
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I get so sick of all these retarded questions and threads.I have never seen anything like this...where EVERYTHING IS ANSWERED,EXPLAINED and still people say "Don't think I am lazy".
I know,if you don't have anything nice to say,don't say it...but this is way too much.
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I agree with you to a point, however when I bought my Streak back in February the first thing I did was come to this forum as I remembered it from my AT&T Tilt days. I started reading...alot. I got more and more confused myself. I read stuff like 318, 309, UK versions, US versions, etc. I didn't know what was compatible with what. I read more, and finally attempted something and it worked and I was hooked. But mind you, I'm a computer geek and understand how things work in the computer world. At work, I'm surrounded by people who don't and it amazes me how much hand holding I have to do for basic tasks. So I get it when people say they are confused. My rationale behind giving the OP the instruction that I did is that once he does it one time, he'll get more comfortable, understand the process a little more, and maybe start to understand some of the other stuff. Then who knows, in a couple months he may be motivated to make the next bada$$ rom for our loved devices. It could happen... ;-)
We all have to start somewhere.....and this forum is the place for it to happen, because of its wonderful, selfless members who are willing to lend out a helping hand expecting nothing in return.
Thank you so much guys. Got it all working and flashed the rom i got recommended, works perfectly.
I really havent been lazy. You just have ro understand that the start,is really hard for a beginner. I need to get into some basics, to understand what and why. I have flashed hundreds of wm phones but this is something different. I prefer to ask and be on the save side. How does it help either of us if i brick the device and ask after?
I really appreciate the people which dont get tired explainig something for the tenth time, this are the people which make this as big as it is.
Again, thank you so much for helping. I hope i ll be able to return the favor one day.
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I agree with you to a point, however when I bought my Streak back in February the first thing I did was come to this forum as I remembered it from my AT&T Tilt days. I started reading...alot. I got more and more confused myself. I read stuff like 318, 309, UK versions, US versions, etc. I didn't know what was compatible with what. I read more, and finally attempted something and it worked and I was hooked. But mind you, I'm a computer geek and understand how things work in the computer world. At work, I'm surrounded by people who don't and it amazes me how much hand holding I have to do for basic tasks. So I get it when people say they are confused. My rationale behind giving the OP the instruction that I did is that once he does it one time, he'll get more comfortable, understand the process a little more, and maybe start to understand some of the other stuff. Then who knows, in a couple months he may be motivated to make the next bada$$ rom for our loved devices. It could happen... ;-)
We all have to start somewhere.....and this forum is the place for it to happen, because of its wonderful, selfless members who are willing to lend out a helping hand expecting nothing in return.
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Motivation and Impressive!! +1
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