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Ahh quick queston

What's a bad ESN_?

Probably reported stolen therefore you can not activate the phone on sprint or whatever carrier it was reported on.....some people buy the phone anyway because they activate it on a different carrier such as MetroPCs

Usually it means the phone has been reported stollen...which case sprint locks the ESN to not work on Sprint...might work with other carriers..

So in most cases you can change the ESN on the phone_?

No. In no cases you can change the esn. Built into the hardware far as I know.

chuckhriczko said:
No. In no cases you can change the esn. Built into the hardware far as I know.
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it is possible to change the esn. at least on moto razrs
brings back memories... anyways i dont think you can on heros. sorry

so is there a way to run the eris on sprint?

So I've done a bunch of researching and I want the pros opinions.can I clone my evo info(msid amd the such) to my eris and have it run? itd be a great back up phone! As usual any help or knowledge is much appreciated!

I believe Sprint is GSM and Verizon is CDMA so their networks aren't compatible so you wont be able to use the eris on Sprints network.
Oh, i could have sworn sprint was GSM, guess I should make sure of these things before I go posting them.

I don't want to sound rude but have knowledge of the subject before replying please. Sprint and verizon are cdma technologies. Att and tmobile are gsm. Hence the sim card....thankyou all the same dude....

[edit]: I saw your other post that answered my question (why would you want to when you could get an EVO or better?).
You probably can; though, it will probably require some serious effort on your part.

xdabens said:
I believe Sprint is GSM and Verizon is CDMA so their networks aren't compatible so you wont be able to use the eris on Sprints network.
Oh, i could have sworn sprint was GSM, guess I should make sure of these things before I go posting them.
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sprint is cdma atleast i believe the hero is

xdabens said:
I believe Sprint is GSM and Verizon is CDMA so their networks aren't compatible so you wont be able to use the eris on Sprints network.
where do u think some of our roms come from
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Smart a$$. Lol. Jk bro. Hey Tazz I wanted to know if you will be working on cyanogenmod 7 whenever it comes out?
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Cloning phones is illegal in most places.
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Stonent said:
Cloning phones is illegal in most places.
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Why is it illegal? I ask this because I personally have flashed roms from all these great devs and sometimes I get one that says Sprint even though I'm with Verizon.

xdabens said:
I believe Sprint is GSM and Verizon is CDMA so their networks aren't compatible so you wont be able to use the eris on Sprints network.
Oh, i could have sworn sprint was GSM, guess I should make sure of these things before I go posting them.
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No they are both CDMA!! You need to get your facts straight.

Stonent said:
Cloning phones is illegal in most places.
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The answer is, from beginning to end, changing carriers via changing ESN's is illegal in most places, and, as a result, has no real place on this forum.
I don't know if there's a section around that relates to changing ESN's for other purposes, but this kind of activity is not condoned, supported, or even allowed by posting rules to be posted here.
The Eris, technically, has all of the hardware and software necessary to run on Sprint, Cricket, and most other CDMA networks. Each network keeps close track of what Serial numbers it will allow to operate on their network. So to answer your question, yes it is possible, but no it is not legal, and the details of the procedure (which I have no idea) are not going to be easily found here, and this thread will probably be closed, bearing the introduction of such a discussion.

I'm surprised how many useless threads people start these days.

Its amazing to me that something like this would be illegal. Where has our freedom gone?

flashing to a different carrier isn't illegal. Only ESN changing is. Flashing to a different carrier is quite possible. However, its easiest when there are identical phones on two different carriers, that way you can just flash the firmware from one to another. Also, the provider has to be willing to accept it. Verizon for the most part will accept phones that aren't produced by them, same for MetroPCS and Cricket. Sprint, and Cellular South will not. I believe I covered the major CDMA carriers.
For those that are confused. Flashing to a different providers firmware on an identical phone does not change the ESN. It just provides the new providers network information and roaming list. Case in point. I used to own a Moto Q9C, I flashed it between Cricket, Verizon, and Alltel on a monthly basis, depending on where I was going and who had the best coverage plan. ESN was never changed. Since those providers openly allow outside devices.
I'm on my eris now, I would like to take it to cellular south and I know a tech that would activate it, however, I'm not smart enough to change all the correct settings to get it to operate on their towers (would be very simple if THEY sold an eris, I could just grab eris firmware from one of their devices.)

DarthMowzy said:
Its amazing to me that something like this would be illegal. Where has our freedom gone?
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We live in America. We are not free. We are slaves to the federal government and to the tax code. My $.02

viogrep said:
flashing to a different carrier isn't illegal. Only ESN changing is. Flashing to a different carrier is quite possible. However, its easiest when there are identical phones on two different carriers, that way you can just flash the firmware from one to another. Also, the provider has to be willing to accept it. Verizon for the most part will accept phones that aren't produced by them, same for MetroPCS and Cricket. Sprint, and Cellular South will not. I believe I covered the major CDMA carriers.
For those that are confused. Flashing to a different providers firmware on an identical phone does not change the ESN. It just provides the new providers network information and roaming list. Case in point. I used to own a Moto Q9C, I flashed it between Cricket, Verizon, and Alltel on a monthly basis, depending on where I was going and who had the best coverage plan. ESN was never changed. Since those providers openly allow outside devices.
I'm on my eris now, I would like to take it to cellular south and I know a tech that would activate it, however, I'm not smart enough to change all the correct settings to get it to operate on their towers (would be very simple if THEY sold an eris, I could just grab eris firmware from one of their devices.)
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Thanks, at least someone on this thread knows what they're talking about.
Changing ESNs is illegal because there's pretty much no reason to do it except to clone other people's phones (essentially stealing their accounts).

Changing ESNs would be like rewriting the magnetic strip on your credit card with someone elses.

Your problem is weather or not Sprint will let you register the ESN on their network. The phone is compatible. Verizon is keeping track of their ESNs. If a phone isn't one of their's they won't let it on thier network. I don't know about Sprit, but it's problable the same. So you are probably out of luck.
FYI, the diffence in a Rom displaying Verizon or Sprint it just in a text file. I has nothing to do with the running code. Many of the Eris 2.2 ROMs are a port from the Srint Hero. Someone just didn't update the file.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730289&highlight=cricket
This may help if you have not seen it, I flashed my eris to MetroPCS with this.

Thanks to viogrep for bringing some sanity to this thread.
If you want to explore a little, and you have the 1.49.2000 S-OFF bootloader on your phone, see
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9878143&postcount=8
You can have your bootloader dump your "mfg" partition to your SD card for inspection with a hex editor.
I'm no carrier-flashing expert, but I think that this "mfg" partition is pivotal in storing the carrier and PRL settings.
bftb0
PS The above mentioned thread also gives instructions for custom-booting Amon_RA so that you have privilege and access to any of the other "hidden" partitions on the phone.

[Q] Xoom working on Sprint or Metro PCS?

I was wondering how possible it might be to activate 3g service on Sprint or Metro PCS. What all would it entail? If I could get Sprint of Metro PCS to add my Xoom to their network, what changes would I need to make in my tablet for it to function properly?

No way Sprint is gonna allow you to activate a Verizon device on their network. At least not legally.

how about other cdma network outside usa? is there any tutorial how to use xoom on other carrier outside us?

No verizon only why do you think its branded on the xoom itself

You used to be able to modify phones to run on other CDMA networks. I remember buying a KRZR from another provider, modding it and using it on Verizon's network so I didn't have the crappy Verizon software.
I imagine this is still possible.

there have been people with evos (sprint CDMA) modifying them to work on both verizon and metro pcs perhaps you could check the evo forums for info.

ESN swapping is technically illegal. and you won't be able to find a ton of info on it through XDA.
your best bet is to get it on Cricket or some other pay as you go CDMA network.

From what I've experienced by flashing my Sprint EVO to my regional carrier, it was fairly simple to do. As long as you have the proper tools such as CDMA Workshop and QPST you pretty much just put the phone in modem mode and reconfigure it (replace PRL, change data settings, etc...). You will also need to have someone from the preferred carrier add the ESN or MEID to their switch.
I suspect it will be a similar process with the Xoom but I am not savvy enough to confirm or deny that.

QPST(/QXDM/CDMA Workshop) would only work if the main processor was Qualcomm though, right?

crazy talk said:
ESN swapping is technically illegal. and you won't be able to find a ton of info on it through XDA.
your best bet is to get it on Cricket or some other pay as you go CDMA network.
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When I did it on my KRZR, I did not swap the ESN of the unit. It was some settings you modified so it looked for Verizon's network instead of Altell, and this was before Verizon bought them. Then I added the ESN from the back of the phone to my Verizon account and it registered.

i've got my min, mdn and akey from my provider, not us off course, but how can i programming my xoom so that i can use my xoom in my country carrier?
i believe that xoom can work in my country, because previously i've been use motodroid and droidx from vzw, also right now i'm using htc evo. my question is how can i input those min akey blabla...

Moving the phone to PagePlus

I'm trying to activate my old Droid Incredible on PagePlus, but it keeps coming up with a Bad ESN. I know for a fact the phone has a good ESN and isn't reported stolen or missing, I bought it AND payed the bills...so WTF VZW? Can anyone help?

I know this is a stupid question but did you unlock it first?
don't know if it even needs to be, just thought I'd ask.

BenHolliday said:
I know this is a stupid question but did you unlock it first?
don't know if it even needs to be, just thought I'd ask.
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It doesn't need to be unlocked on the Pageplus Network, it piggybacks on the VZW network. That's why it wont activate cause every time they try the VZW network keeps returning back a Bad ESN, when its not...I called them and they were clueless to what I was talking about.

Smokeey said:
It doesn't need to be unlocked on the Pageplus Network, it piggybacks on the VZW network. That's why it wont activate cause every time they try the VZW network keeps returning back a Bad ESN, when its not...I called them and they were clueless to what I was talking about.
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You need to contact VZW and have them release the esn number. Also when I activated three incs on pageplus I used the meid # not esn
Hope this helps

I have a Inc on pageplus, as the guy above me said. Make verizon has 'let' go of the esn, even if you've upgraded or left after finishing your contract they still keep your esm sometimes.
If it comes to it, you can buy a cheap phone and activate it. Call pageplus and tell them you got a new phone, and need. To change esns.
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Use sprint LG G2 on verizon?

I saw a similar thread to this, but it wasnt my same situation. I've been shopping for a LG G2 to work on verizon, found a dude on craigslist with what he says is an unlocked one, Now he says its a sprint one. But unlocked for any carrier....is this true? Like is this even possible? If so, is it going to work on verizon...100%? Like data 4g, 3g etc?
Thanks all!

I'm not an expert but I believe they are both CDMA. So it should work

askmeonemore said:
I'm not an expert but I believe they are both CDMA. So it should work
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That was my initial thought as well, but for 4g it should work no problem but for 3g/2g doesnt the ESN have to be registered on the network?

andriodfanatic said:
That was my initial thought as well, but for 4g it should work no problem but for 3g/2g doesnt the ESN have to be registered on the network?
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Yes. Verizon years ago had a bring your own device policy that allowed you to register sprint devices on Verizon, but that was a long time ago.

staticx57 said:
Yes. Verizon years ago had a bring your own device policy that allowed you to register sprint devices on Verizon, but that was a long time ago.
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So i am correct, that it will not work?

Don't bother.
CDMA carriers like Verizon and Sprint have a database of ESN's (serial numbers) that are approved for their network unlike GSM carriers like T-Mobile and AT&T where you can just pop in their respective SIM cards and use compatible unlocked GSM devices.
You can't just walk into a VZW store with a Sprint phone, go to the counter and tell the rep that you want to activate service with a (non-Verizon branded phone) Sprint phone. First of all, the ESN/MEID is not in their database, doesn't have any VZW prl (preferred roaming list) loaded, and in the case of LTE, isn't even compatible (VZW runs LTE on 700mhz, Sprint is on 800/1900/2500).
However, Sprint and VZW technically run their CDMA service (1xrtt, 3G EVDO) on compatible frequencies 800/850/1900, hence the reason their customers can roam off each other and vice versa. So technically it can work if VZW will accept the Sprint device ESN into their database and do all the backend OTA programming etc, but that's not going to happen. There's always the murky underworld of cloning, but i'll stop right here...
As for the person on Craigslist trying to urinate on you and convince you that it is raining, forget about him/her. It's likely that it might be unlocked, but that's only the GSM portion, for GSM carriers and not Verizon.
If you need a phone to use on Verizon, why not just get a Verizon phone and save yourself the hassle?