I'm trying to activate my old Droid Incredible on PagePlus, but it keeps coming up with a Bad ESN. I know for a fact the phone has a good ESN and isn't reported stolen or missing, I bought it AND payed the bills...so WTF VZW? Can anyone help?
I know this is a stupid question but did you unlock it first?
don't know if it even needs to be, just thought I'd ask.
BenHolliday said:
I know this is a stupid question but did you unlock it first?
don't know if it even needs to be, just thought I'd ask.
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It doesn't need to be unlocked on the Pageplus Network, it piggybacks on the VZW network. That's why it wont activate cause every time they try the VZW network keeps returning back a Bad ESN, when its not...I called them and they were clueless to what I was talking about.
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It doesn't need to be unlocked on the Pageplus Network, it piggybacks on the VZW network. That's why it wont activate cause every time they try the VZW network keeps returning back a Bad ESN, when its not...I called them and they were clueless to what I was talking about.
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You need to contact VZW and have them release the esn number. Also when I activated three incs on pageplus I used the meid # not esn
Hope this helps
I have a Inc on pageplus, as the guy above me said. Make verizon has 'let' go of the esn, even if you've upgraded or left after finishing your contract they still keep your esm sometimes.
If it comes to it, you can buy a cheap phone and activate it. Call pageplus and tell them you got a new phone, and need. To change esns.
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Hi, i'm buying a Samsung galaxy s3, and i worry about bad ESN phone that i can't use on my tmobile account.
For that reason, i think i will pay for a s3 ATT ( if ATT s3 is a bad ESN phone than i still can unlock and use it with my tmobile account, right? )
But i hear someone said that if i use a unlock ATT phone then tmobile data plan won't work on that att phone. I don't know if this is correct information or not.
Can someone help me out?:crying::crying:
Thank you very much.
Also Is there anyone to avoid bad esn phone on craiglists?
Furthermore, is there anyone to buy a bad ESN Tmobile phone, and somehow i can use it with tmobile ?
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Hi, i'm buying a Samsung galaxy s3, and i worry about bad ESN phone that i can't use on my tmobile account.
For that reason, i think i will pay for a s3 ATT ( if ATT s3 is a bad ESN phone than i still can unlock and use it with my tmobile account, right? )
But i hear someone said that if i use a unlock ATT phone then tmobile data plan won't work on that att phone. I don't know if this is correct information or not.
Can someone help me out?:crying::crying:
Thank you very much.
Also Is there anyone to avoid bad esn phone on craiglists?
Furthermore, is there anyone to buy a bad ESN Tmobile phone, and somehow i can use it with tmobile ?
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well you're in the wrong section. you want to go to the s3 section for this.
but to my knowledge. at&t s3 is not compatible with tmobile's 4g. you'll get EDGE speed. but once tmobile has their LTE towers up and running it should work.... NEXT year lol
no you can't used a t-mobile blacklisted phone back on t-mobile.
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Hi, i'm buying a Samsung galaxy s3, and i worry about bad ESN phone that i can't use on my tmobile account.
For that reason, i think i will pay for a s3 ATT ( if ATT s3 is a bad ESN phone than i still can unlock and use it with my tmobile account, right? )
But i hear someone said that if i use a unlock ATT phone then tmobile data plan won't work on that att phone. I don't know if this is correct information or not.
Can someone help me out?:crying::crying:
Thank you very much.
Also Is there anyone to avoid bad esn phone on craiglists?
Furthermore, is there anyone to buy a bad ESN Tmobile phone, and somehow i can use it with tmobile ?
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First of all GSM networks (T-Mobile, AT&T) do not use ESN. Only CDMA networks (like Verizon, Sprint) use it. T-Mobile and AT&T use IMEI numbers.
Second of all, unless you live in an area that T-Mobile has begun to refarm their 1900 mHz band to HSPA+ you will only getEDGE speeds onT-Mobile with an AT&T phone.
If you are so worried about buying a T-Mobile phone with a blocked IMEI number, why not either wait until you have enough money to purchase it directly from T-Mobile or meet the person you're buying from at a T-Mobile store and have the IMEI checked before you buy?
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I broke my sprint phone, but I can upgrade to a new phone now on Sprint. I want to use the Sprint One Up Plan for a bit, then leave the contract since I don't believe it has a contract. I plan on using the G2 as my replacement. I want to move to T-Mobile later, and I know the G2 can be used on Sprint. I also have read here that the G2 comes factory locked by Sprint, and Sprint will one unlock it for international use. Is there something that I could flash to the G2 to allow me to use it on T-Mobile when I switch?
Basically, how can I use domestic USA GSM on a Sprint LG G2?
I will at least root and unlock the phone internationally first anyway, since I need to use outside of the country. Flashing ROMs and things like that is not a problem for me.
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I broke my sprint phone, but I can upgrade to a new phone now on Sprint. I want to use the Sprint One Up Plan for a bit, then leave the contract since I don't believe it has a contract. I plan on using the G2 as my replacement. I want to move to T-Mobile later, and I know the G2 can be used on Sprint. I also have read here that the G2 comes factory locked by Sprint, and Sprint will one unlock it for international use. Is there something that I could flash to the G2 to allow me to use it on T-Mobile when I switch?
Basically, how can I use domestic USA GSM on a Sprint LG G2?
I will at least root and unlock the phone internationally first anyway, since I need to use outside of the country. Flashing ROMs and things like that is not a problem for me.
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No this will not work at all.. T mobile and Sprint G2's are completely different.. If you want to move to T mobile, move.. Otherwise stay with sprint!
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No this will not work at all.. T mobile and Sprint G2's are completely different.. If you want to move to T mobile, move.. Otherwise stay with sprint!
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I saw this dicussion: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524771
Is it possible, after I finish with Sprint, I could flash the firmware and modem of T-Mobile's G2?
Would any of those unlock codes for the IMEI work, since it supports GSM?
Thats risky due to the fact that tmo uses different bands than sprint plus the radio waves are different and sprint is gsm and tmo is cdma
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Thats risky due to the fact that tmo uses different bands than sprint plus the radio waves are different and sprint is gsm and tmo is cdma
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Sprint is CDMA and T-Mobile is GSM...
Anyway, I know the G2 supports all of the bands, so I don't see why this can't happen. Sprint has just locked away the domestic GSM capabilities. Why is flashing theT-Mobile modem such a risk then? WOuld I be able to flash it back?
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Sprint is CDMA and T-Mobile is GSM...
Anyway, I know the G2 supports all of the bands, so I don't see why this can't happen. Sprint has just locked away the domestic GSM capabilities. Why is flashing theT-Mobile modem such a risk then? WOuld I be able to flash it back?
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Sorry always get that bavkwards the issue is with two things the radio, which you said you could flash the modem no problem. Then the biggest issue is the sim card now im not sure if the sprint variant has a sim card slot. But from what my buddy has told me who is a tmobile phone tech they dont have away to enable your service with out the sim card. For some reason they dont do their services like most carriers and just use the phones imei number to set service. If im wrong im sorry and hopefully you can get everything switched. And thank you for the imformation i did not know the g2 has all bands hidden inside the phone. I was just worried that the radio bands would get you. And to answer your question yes you can always just flash them back.
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Sorry always get that bavkwards the issue is with two things the radio, which you said you could flash the modem no problem. Then the biggest issue is the sim card now im not sure if the sprint variant has a sim card slot. But from what my buddy has told me who is a tmobile phone tech they dont have away to enable your service with out the sim card. For some reason they dont do their services like most carriers and just use the phones imei number to set service. If im wrong im sorry and hopefully you can get everything switched. And thank you for the imformation i did not know the g2 has all bands hidden inside the phone. I was just worried that the radio bands would get you. And to answer your question yes you can always just flash them back.
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No problem. If I helped give me my first thank you. I'm going to go to the Sprint Store soon and see what they say. The Nexus 5 seems to be compatible with any carrier, but I like the G2 just a bit better. Sprint has a help topic regarding replacing the SIM , so that is not an issue. Hopefully someone else can tell me if the G2 can have a different modem flashed.
I don't want to take any unneccessary risks flashing, because that is what broke my last two Sprint phones lol.
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No problem. If I helped give me my first thank you. I'm going to go to the Sprint Store soon and see what they say. The Nexus 5 seems to be compatible with any carrier, but I like the G2 just a bit better. Sprint has a help topic regarding replacing the SIM , so that is not an issue. Hopefully someone else can tell me if the G2 can have a different modem flashed.
I don't want to take any unneccessary risks flashing, because that is what broke my last two Sprint phones lol.
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Ok so i was wrong it looks like the spring g2 does have a sim spot so all you have to do is 1 get unlock.from sprint 2 flash required firmware and modem and radio files 3 go tothe phones dailer and dail*#*#4636#*#*. This will bring up the menu shown inscreen shot. Switch your current band from evdo to what is shown in the screen shot and bam sprint branded tmo phone if i help at all pls return the favor with the thanks.
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Ok so i was wrong it looks like the spring g2 does have a sim spot so all you have to do is 1 get unlock.from sprint 2 flash required firmware and modem and radio files 3 go tothe phones dailer and dail*#*#4636#*#*. This will bring up the menu shown inscreen shot. Switch your current band from evdo to what is shown in the screen shot and bam sprint branded tmo phone if i help at all pls return the favor with the thanks.
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So where do I get the files? And can you confirm this has a good chance of succeeding?
It will not work.. Sprint doesn't unlock the phone for domestic US GSM carriers and the 2 models for Sprint and T-Mobile are completely different. You flash anything like the radios and you'll have a massive brick. If you want to move between carriers, get the Nexus 5.
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It will not work.. Sprint doesn't unlock the phone for domestic US GSM carriers and the 2 models for Sprint and T-Mobile are completely different. You flash anything like the radios and you'll have a massive brick. If you want to move between carriers, get the Nexus 5.
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Sprint and Tmo both confirmed yesterday that this is possible
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So where do I get the files? And can you confirm this has a good chance of succeeding?
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As far as the files go I can search here for a thread. And I'm sorry man I will not confirm for you the chance of success because any thing can happen but before you do any thing I recommend you talk to both sprint and tmo in your area
You will not get domestic GSM service with Sprint atm. Hang it up until a solution if any will come. Even after that, it will never be fully compatible with Tmob bands. I love/hate Verizon.
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Sprint and Tmo both confirmed yesterday that this is possible
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As far as the files go I can search here for a thread. And I'm sorry man I will not confirm for you the chance of success because any thing can happen but before you do any thing I recommend you talk to both sprint and tmo in your area
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Really? That's weird that Sprint would say that. What exactly did they say?
MetroPCS
I just flashed my ls 980 to Metro they just got bought out by T mobile!!!
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Really? That's weird that Sprint would say that. What exactly did they say?
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They said and i quote just call customer service and have them unlock the phone. Once the phone is unlocked you can flash to a different carrier but you have to know what your doing.
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They said and i quote just call customer service and have them unlock the phone. Once the phone is unlocked you can flash to a different carrier but you have to know what your doing.
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Well I may just do that, or now I could go with T-Mobile. They are buying out 2-year contracts now (a.k.a they pay your early termination fee). That is sweettttttt!
ashraj98 said:
Well I may just do that, or now I could go with T-Mobile. They are buying out 2-year contracts now (a.k.a they pay your early termination fee). That is sweettttttt!
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Yeah man I have tmo and I love them but if you go to tmo make sure to sign up for jump because the lg flex has been confirmed for the US plus you get free lookout premium and insurance
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Yeah man I have tmo and I love them but if you go to tmo make sure to sign up for jump because the lg flex has been confirmed for the US plus you get free lookout premium and insurance
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Yup that's EXACTLY what i'm going to do. Great stuff at tmo from what I've heard. Thanks for all the help everyone.
Hey guys,
I just purchased a nexus 6 from t-mobile and popped in a sim from att, sprint, and Verizon. I can confirm all 3 worked flawlessly with no problems.
At the device start up, i did skip the part where it tried to activate on the network the sim was from.
If anyone has any questions feel free to ask.
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Are you seeing the issue of voice + data not working at the same time? When I'm on a call on Verizon, Wi-Fi works, but mobile data shuts off... is this just Verizon, or is this a "feature"?
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Are you seeing the issue of voice + data not working at the same time? When I'm on a call on Verizon, Wi-Fi works, but mobile data shuts off... is this just Verizon, or is this a "feature"?
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That is not activated on Verizon...
But what I do want to know is if Verizon will whitelist the imei numbers . because I am soooo ready to pull the trigger to buy at a tmobile store. Did you have to activate the tmobile first? That's what the rep is telling me here
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Are you seeing the issue of voice + data not working at the same time? When I'm on a call on Verizon, Wi-Fi works, but mobile data shuts off... is this just Verizon, or is this a "feature"?
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Unless something has changed with CDMA technology, the Verizon phones shouldn't be able to use data while on an active call. I know they are working to get that working with some new LTE standard but I haven't heard anything about it being here yet.
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That is not activated on Verizon...
But what I do want to know is if Verizon will whitelist the imei numbers . because I am soooo ready to pull the trigger to buy at a tmobile store. Did you have to activate the tmobile first? That's what the rep is telling me here
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I'm considering switching to TMo anyway, so I picked up 30 days of pre-paid with the phone for 45$. I plan to try both carriers on my commute, see how signal is on both carriers on the train ride, downtown at work, etc. before making up my mind, and this device makes it as easy as swapping the SIM out!
The issue I had, was I didn't have a nano-SIM. Verizon rep at the store told me there was nothing they could do... I told them if he got me a nano-SIM, that customer support could active it... He gave me a SIM and let me use their phone to call Support to activate it. The support person did a "SIM swap" for my existing device, even though my Note3 obviously doesn't use a nano-SIM.. but that's all it took to activate the nano-SIM, and it works perfectly.
I may be misunderstanding your question... I believe the confusion is that you don't actually activate the phone... you activate the SIM IN the device. You should be able to take the phone out of the box, and drop in an already activated SIM and all will work fine...
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Unless something has changed with CDMA technology, the Verizon phones shouldn't be able to use data while on an active call. I know they are working to get that working with some new LTE standard but I haven't heard anything about it being here yet.
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Thank you for confirming, that's exactly what I needed to know! I'm sure I can live without needing mobile data while on a call...
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I'm considering switching to TMo anyway, so I picked up 30 days of pre-paid with the phone for 45$. I plan to try both carriers on my commute, see how signal is on both carriers on the train ride, downtown at work, etc. before making up my mind, and this device makes it as easy as swapping the SIM out!
The issue I had, was I didn't have a nano-SIM. Verizon rep at the store told me there was nothing they could do... I told them if he got me a nano-SIM, that customer support could active it... He gave me a SIM and let me use their phone to call Support to activate it. The support person did a "SIM swap" for my existing device, even though my Note3 obviously doesn't use a nano-SIM.. but that's all it took to activate the nano-SIM, and it works perfectly.
I may be misunderstanding your question... I believe the confusion is that you don't actually activate the phone... you activate the SIM IN the device. You should be able to take the phone out of the box, and drop in an already activated SIM and all will work fine...
Thank you for confirming, that's exactly what I needed to know! I'm sure I can live without needing mobile data while on a call...
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I know it works. My question is. Would Verizon block the imei or device I.d.s later down the road to where it doesn't work and only the imei that's been sold on Google play works.
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I know it works. My question is. Would Verizon block the imei or device I.d.s later down the road to where it doesn't work and only the imei that's been sold on Google play works.
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Good luck getting your answer. If the device suddenly stops working on Big Red, I'll post here (as soon as I've completed my switch to another carrier).
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Good luck getting your answer. If the device suddenly stops working on Big Red, I'll post here (as soon as I've completed my switch to another carrier).
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Lol. Yea that's what I was worried about. I didn't want to buy it then down the road oh yea this I.d. doesn't work anymore.
I did not register my device on T-Mobile at all. Just popped the other sims in.
What I'm told is that carriers only care about imei when activating for the first time. If you just put your own sim in there they just can't see the device type which really doesn't matter unless you're looking to call them for support.
T mobile store gave me **** about buying the phone out right. I had to get a friend to add me as an authorized user on his account to buy the phone OUTRIGHT. So stupid...
Also, at T-Mobile the phone out right was 649 where everyone else is like 50 or 40 bucks more which was also sweet.
I also did not get bloat Ware on the phone from the carriers.
The devices CDMA identifier (MEID??) needs to be in the carriers whitelist so if the OP didn't place a voice call over either the Sprint or Verizon networks itnis not "safe" to to say it works on all carriers.
This is supposed to be one model for all of the US with 4 SKUs for the variations, and it should work but there is still the question of whether the CDMA carrier. Allows the phone on their network.
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I can confirm I've activated my nexus bought directly from moto on both sprint and T-Mobile. Both voice and data worked with each carrier. Sprint takes a little more when than just putting the Sim in. They need to activate the MEID in their system. You can't just put an active Sim from another phone in and have it work.
Interesting..
Other users have reported the exact opposite.
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Interesting..
Other users have reported the exact opposite.
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If you referring to activating one on sprint, I was one of those users. Since Monday haven't been able to activate it until this morning.
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If you referring to activating one on sprint, I was one of those users. Since Monday haven't been able to activate it until this morning.
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Yep, talking about Sprint. IIRC, there were multiple threads on here saying you can only activate on CDMA carriers if you buy from them or Google Play.
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Yep, talking about Sprint. IIRC, there were multiple threads on here saying you can only activate on CDMA carriers if you buy from them or Google Play.
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What about activating on Verizon?
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Buying from T-Mo living in a non-T-Mo area
Yes. I must be one of the only people on here in the U.S. not living in a T-Mo area.
I just ordered from T-Mo (64GB MB). After much conversation and clarification, I've learned that one can buy a Nexus 6 from them outright, which requires also buying a $10 SIM activation kit. Since I do not live in a T-Mo area, I will have to call and cancel my 'yet-to-be-activated' plan, which also required a $50 deposit. By utilizing T-Mo's "buyer's remorse", I will be able to keep the phone, since I bought it outright, but will be refunded my $50 deposit for the service, without ever having to activate it on T-Mo's network. From there, I will pop in my AT&T SIM card, and be on my way! The only thing I'll be out is the $10 SIM activation kit.
Also, the rep's did acknowledge that the Nexus 6 is one of the few phones they have that are already unlocked.
Please do critique this if you foresee any problems I'll have popping in my AT&T SIM and using my existing service with them.
EDIT: Yargh. T-Mo had zero 64GB phones, and have since called me back to tell me they are on back order. But hey... at least I have an order in now. Beats what I've accomplished so far on the Play store all to hell.
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What about activating on Verizon?
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As far as I'm aware, Verizon comes under the same category. You should only be able to activate on Verizon if you buy the phone from Google Play or from Verizon.
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As far as I'm aware, Verizon comes under the same category. You should only be able to activate on Verizon if you buy the phone from Google Play or from Verizon.
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That is what I have read. I am hoping by the 12/2 when I get my phone from Motorola I will have more options regarding Verizon.
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What about activating on Verizon?
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I bought my device from T-Mobile, removed the T-Mobile sim it came with, put my Verizon sim card in, and it worked no problem. This happened with my phone on ATT as well. The guy next to me did the SAME EXACT THING on Sprint.
I am not BSing you guys in the least. I have no problem helping out in anyway I can. I'll even give you the number and the guy at the T Mobile store who watched us do it lol.
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This is incorrect, it has been working for 3 years now. Data while on a phone call has been working since LTE came out. It worked on my Note 2, Note 3, and currently works on my Galaxy S5. Also works on my families HTC M7 and M8.
However, it no longer works on the Droid Turbo, and now I believe the N6.
But the original assumption was incorrect, data + voice has been working for years. They did something now that it is not working on new devices coming out.
I bought a Verizon phone or someone I know about a Verizon phone rather and it turns out that the phone was not paid for on the Verizon network. So essentially as a bad ESN for Verizon. That being said if I can unlock the phone then I can go ahead and use it for Sprint. I don't know if that means I should change the model number to the you model number like I did with a T-Mobile phone couple months ago or if there's another way
Just flash a Sprint ROM and pop your sim card in and see what it does. Be sure to report back. As it could help others in the future
Did it work?? Any update? Cuz I believe that once Sprint sees your MEID, it will show up. I'm curious to see if it worked.
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Did it work?? Any update? Cuz I believe that once Sprint sees your MEID, it will show up. I'm curious to see if it worked.
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I highly doubt it. Sprint won't add a Verizon MEID to their database. Besides that, only certain Verizon phones are compatible on the Sprint network.
Hi guys quick question I have a friend that visited me her to The Dominican Republic and decided to give me his Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge. The phone is actually unlocked to any carrier but my main concern is if he goes back to the US and report the phone as lost with Tmobile, will the lock the phone again? Or just make it as bad esn that way it can no longer be activated in the US..
Pls answer me ASAP, my friend is leaving back to the states tomorrow and we just want to make sure prior to he giving me his phone...
Thanks in advance
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Hi guys quick question I have a friend that visited me her to The Dominican Republic and decided to give me his Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge. The phone is actually unlocked to any carrier but my main concern is if he goes back to the US and report the phone as lost with Tmobile, will the lock the phone again? Or just make it as bad esn that way it can no longer be activated in the US..
Pls answer me ASAP, my friend is leaving back to the states tomorrow and we just want to make sure prior to he giving me his phone...
Thanks in advance
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Network stays unlocked if it was a permanent unlock via Tmobile. (Not a 1 month temporary unlock sometimes done by Tmo). Even if it gets locked, it can be unlocked on ebay for a fee.
ESN will be blacklisted.
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Network stays unlocked if it was a permanent unlock via Tmobile. (Not a 1 month temporary unlock sometimes done by Tmo). Even if it gets locked, it can be unlocked on ebay for a fee.
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Thanks for you response but ebay isn't a option
If it's a friend of yours, why would he report it as lost if he's giving it to you? Doesn't sound like a friendly thing to do. Or are you trying to scam TMO somehow?
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If it's a friend of yours, why would he report it as lost if he's giving it to you? Doesn't sound like a friendly thing to do. Or are you trying to scam TMO somehow?
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Thats was not what I said
This sounds shady. He's giving you his phone, then false reporting it stolen so that he can get a new one.
Either way, they won't relock it but the ESN will be bad. If it registers on a tmobile tower (even through a prepay service) it will kill the service because the phone's blacklisted through TMobile.