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Hey all.
As you all know, the N1 has a design defect that eventually causes the power button to break down after prolonged use. It's a design issue related to wear and tear. No avoiding this one. Just how long.
Mine got lucky, lasted slightly more than a year. Couple of days back, it eventually caved in.
So now, I'm considering a few options and I'd like to get some feedback from anyone.
If you were in my shoes:
1) Would you repair?
Cost being approximately $100-120 USD. With the phone almost certain to be scratched as part of the repair process. And with that, being certain that the battery button will someday eventually break down again due to the design defect.
2) Get a new phone NOW?
Cost being approximately $575-600 USD. Probably get either a MT4G or Desire HD/ACE.
Pros being = better screen type for multitouch, more ram, more internal hd, bigger screen, better cpu, better gpu.
Cons being = bad screen tech (LCD = crap colors & battery vs amoled), slow ROM updates unless you run custom (which is do, running CM, but official drivers, etc aren't out till the official stuff moves forward as well.), uber bad battery life (though this is subjective, let's say - average 8-10 hours a day), no 2nd mic for noise suppression, no trackball.
3) Wait for dual cores to come out in the next 2-3 months and get one then.
Which means buying at potentially up market costs because the tech is considered new and supply will probably be less than demand.
Would like to hear some ideas from the community. =) Thanks br0s. And uh, sis'. Lol.
1.Repair
2.Root
3.Flash CM7
4.Sell on Swappa
5.Make money from the repair with some spare to put twards new phone.
6.Buy New Phone.
7.??????????????????
8. Profit!
ez
shanxybeast said:
1.Repair
2.Root
3.Flash CM7
4.Sell on Swappa
5.Make money from the repair with some spare to put twards new phone.
6.Buy New Phone.
7.??????????????????
8. Profit!
ez
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Already rooted. Already on CM. I live in Malaysia. No profit due to shipping costs. Lol.
Maybe you want to try local HTC support? Check the cost for the repair 1st before deciding.
I think repair.. u can trade in low yat plaza .. n1 is still rare in malaysia.. mine got n1 too.. but still lucky no power button issue..
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I sent it to Vodafone Spain technical service (it was still under warranty) and got it replaced by a brand new one.
To avoid a new power button failure, I'm using No-Lock widget and Lock Screen.
I repaired mine myself last week, $40 (aprox) part from eBay, 2 hours work tops and it now works perfectly. I did make some very small scratches in the antenne cover, but I can live with that. Don't regret it in the least, now I'm ready to wait for a dual-core "Google experience" phone...
Besides, once you have the phone open you can make sure the small button inside doesn't move around (glue or small piece of paper), as others have said that that helped in not having the problem again.
lenrek said:
Maybe you want to try local HTC support? Check the cost for the repair 1st before deciding.
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There' no support for Nexus One in Malaysia. I called HTC Malaysia already. They said I'd have to send it to Singapore.
are-red said:
I think repair.. u can trade in low yat plaza .. n1 is still rare in malaysia.. mine got n1 too.. but still lucky no power button issue..
Don't think trade in will give me much sadly. Repair will cost me RM350. Was thinking of picking up Desire HD at RM1750. *Sam tong.*
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ToxicDude said:
I repaired mine myself last week, $40 (aprox) part from eBay, 2 hours work tops and it now works perfectly. I did make some very small scratches in the antenne cover, but I can live with that. Don't regret it in the least, now I'm ready to wait for a dual-core "Google experience" phone...
Besides, once you have the phone open you can make sure the small button inside doesn't move around (glue or small piece of paper), as others have said that that helped in not having the problem again.
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Yeah, I'm considering repairing it on my own. Do you have the process guide? I heard you have to disassemble nearly the entire thing just to replace that board. Was hoping to solder the flex cable if possible. Do share your thoughts, am very keen to hear more.
chowlala, the 3 options given are of different magnitude in terms of objective and cost. Don't get me wrong, I have an N1 with broken power button too.
For now, the best option is to install one of those "power button replacement" software such as AnyUnlock.
If you plan to ditch the N1 later, then wait for the dual core phone. Just buy the phone you like, don't worry so much about the price. And buy the phone online or from Singapore (if not commonly available in Malaysia) coz its definitely cheaper compared to places like Low Yat.
The above is what I will do
colins said:
chowlala, the 3 options given are of different magnitude in terms of objective and cost. Don't get me wrong, I have an N1 with broken power button too.
For now, the best option is to install one of those "power button replacement" software such as AnyUnlock.
If you plan to ditch the N1 later, then wait for the dual core phone. Just buy the phone you like, don't worry so much about the price. And buy the phone online or from Singapore (if not commonly available in Malaysia) coz its definitely cheaper compared to places like Low Yat.
The above is what I will do
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Agreed. Very true.
Everybody would love to save money obviously.
I can live with the broken power button. I believe it's only a matter of getting used to it. And I'm pretty alright with ADB and running mods on the phone. So updating, etc will still be fine. And I'm currently using the Lock Widget, with Sleep on the pull down notification bar and long press Home to sleep the phone as well. Lol.
Only concern now then would be, how to power up the phone when I'm not near a cable. Anyone got any ideas?
I would love to keep the n1 if I can figure this one out. As of this point, everything is still alright as long as I'm near a cable. But if the phone hangs when I'm not near a cable.
That's a problem. =(
You certainly can live without the power button (I did for over two months) but it is a pain every time you have to power it off/on. The problem became too bothersome for me when needing to fly and when needing to swap sim cards, and not always having a pc at hand.
In any case, the replacement process does need for the entire phone to be disassembled, but the guide at ifixit was detailed enough for me. I did try to solder or otherwise fix the cable before replacing it, but it was impossible (very small, short, flexible and, in my case, it was completely severed). To see the cable you don't need to dismantle the whole phone, just the battery cover and the screws behind it.
After changing the board, I used some cable coating to make sure the button sat firmly and that cable was under as little stress as possible. Lets hope this time it lasts more than 8 months.
Can someone explain what the method is to reinforce the power button (with pictures if possible)?
Also, does this apply to the volume buttons too? On one of my refurbs, the top volume button got unresponsive and was probably dying the same way these power buttons do.
EDIT: didn't see you post before I did. I wonder if it's possible to secure the power button and volume button boards in a way that prevents stress on the cables.
I've been "living" without a power button for more than 4 months now, using a combination of "no lock" and "lock 2.0" to turn the device on and off.
As for the reboot issue, i always have a usb cable at hand and a small portable usb/dc charger when there's no laptop around.
PS I'm on stock.
I don't know of there being a generally accepted way to reinforce the power button. If you search you'll find very different ideas and opinions.
I think that the problem is that the button in the board rests over a metallic support that is part of the structure of the phone. However, the button just rests there, and depending on how you press the power button on top it can move around stressing the cable in the process. After spending some time with the phone open, I think that any solution that fixes the button in its place (glue, paper, o cable coating like I used) should help in reducing cable stress and extending its life. In any case, I don't think any of these solutions are permanent and eventually the cable will break again.
As for the volumen buttons, I have not heard about problems with them as they are are much better supported and there is no movement, cable stress or anything in that part of the phone. If you are having problems with them, maybe it's just dust or something else that got into your phone?
I'm still using widgets and trackball wake (I'm in CM7, so...), just to extend the useful life of the button as much as possible.
elio said:
I've been "living" without a power button for more than 4 months now, using a combination of "no lock" and "lock 2.0" to turn the device on and off.
As for the reboot issue, i always have a usb cable at hand and a small portable usb/dc charger when there's no laptop around.
PS I'm on stock.
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Yeah, I've got trackball wake and lock widgets and stuff. But I can't be carrying around a usb cable and charger all the time. Lol. I have a set in my car though.
OJ in Compton said:
Can someone explain what the method is to reinforce the power button (with pictures if possible)?
Also, does this apply to the volume buttons too? On one of my refurbs, the top volume button got unresponsive and was probably dying the same way these power buttons do.
EDIT: didn't see you post before I did. I wonder if it's possible to secure the power button and volume button boards in a way that prevents stress on the cables.
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Your ribbons in the flex cable are probably fraying. That's what happened with mine. It slowly became more and more unresponsive until one point it just chucked out.
ToxicDude said:
You certainly can live without the power button (I did for over two months) but it is a pain every time you have to power it off/on. The problem became too bothersome for me when needing to fly and when needing to swap sim cards, and not always having a pc at hand.
In any case, the replacement process does need for the entire phone to be disassembled, but the guide at ifixit was detailed enough for me. I did try to solder or otherwise fix the cable before replacing it, but it was impossible (very small, short, flexible and, in my case, it was completely severed). To see the cable you don't need to dismantle the whole phone, just the battery cover and the screws behind it.
After changing the board, I used some cable coating to make sure the button sat firmly and that cable was under as little stress as possible. Lets hope this time it lasts more than 8 months.
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Hmm. Very interesting. I'm not keen on opening up the entire unit to fix the flex cable though. And I was at the repair shop when the guy told me the process, and I pulled back. I would go crazy if there was dust UNDER the screen. Hence why I would like to try soldering the cables first. Any idea on how to go about with that?
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Only concern now then would be, how to power up the phone when I'm not near a cable. Anyone got any ideas?
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One of those USB battery pack will do.
e.g. Sanyo Eneloop Mobile Booster
How to Manage a Nexus One with a broken Power Button
Here's how I manage my Nexus One to "PREVENT" the power button failure.
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/09/08/manage-nexus-broken-power-button/
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One of those USB battery pack will do.
e.g. Sanyo Eneloop Mobile Booster
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Yeah, but like I said, would be difficult to carry around. I hate having stuff in my pockets. If only like some sdcard-eject-reinsert or SIM card thing could work. That would be perfect. But of course I'm probably asking for too much already. Haha.
zekers said:
Here's how I manage my Nexus One to "PREVENT" the power button failure.
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/09/08/manage-nexus-broken-power-button/
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Yeah, that's a really good write up. I read that the instant my power button broke and has helped me reorientate real quick. I highly recommend the article to those who are facing the same problem.
I actually just sent my nexus one in for repair (I'm in Singapore, just bring the phone to the center). I complained about my phone was just a few days out of warranty (3 days) though I had no receipt with me. They waived the shipping fee (S$53.50 since it's an import phone). Got the phone back a week later with a quote of S$41.50 (not bad at all). The only down size is that the technician somehow didn't plug the cable in all the way. Now I have random flash light when booting up the phone and when picking up the call. Might have to open it up to secure the connection or to send it in for repair again (I have 3 moths of warranty for this part anyhow)
Hope it can help. I had the button failure as well. At the time I send the phone in, MIUI was installed and I did not get any complain about that.
popophobia said:
I actually just sent my nexus one in for repair (I'm in Singapore, just bring the phone to the center). I complained about my phone was just a few days out of warranty (3 days) though I had no receipt with me. They waived the shipping fee (S$53.50 since it's an import phone). Got the phone back a week later with a quote of S$41.50 (not bad at all). The only down size is that the technician somehow didn't plug the cable in all the way. Now I have random flash light when booting up the phone and when picking up the call. Might have to open it up to secure the connection or to send it in for repair again (I have 3 moths of warranty for this part anyhow)
Hope it can help. I had the button failure as well. At the time I send the phone in, MIUI was installed and I did not get any complain about that.
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I would send it in if I was in Singapore. Not sure how they'd deal with someone from Malaysia though. Repairs + travel/postage would cost quite a bomb. Though I've seen the board part costing about 30 euros. And I would be quite mad if I was returned a phone that has a random flash of light. Lol.
I thought hardware warranty and software warranty were two different issues? Besides, it's a well documented fact that the Nexus One and Desire suffer the same problem... no?
Maybe I can call in and report the phone as a Desire for repairs. LOL.
The phone definitely boots up because the lights on the buttons flash on then turn off after some time. The keyboard also lights up. You can tell the backlight turns on on the screen, but there is no picture.
Anyone have any idea about what I should do? Thinking about trying to restore to a stock Tom somehow tonight. Then I'm thinking about looking for screen replacements.
I was curious if anyone has had this issue before.
Update 07/14/11
So I got the screen and switched the old one out for the new one. This one also only has the backlight turning on, but I noticed when I put a part back on, there was a little bump in the middle of the phone. Haven't had a chance to fix it, but I noticed it's a piece hitting this rubber piece that seems to "transport" the sound for the mic from the bottom of the phone to the actual microphone module within the phone.
Removed that rubber piece, and I'll try installing it later. I was getting some blue and red visible in the middle of the phone. Anyone know what's wrong?
albanianbrotha said:
The phone definitely boots up because the lights on the buttons flash on then turn off after some time. The keyboard also lights up. You can tell the backlight turns on on the screen, but there is no picture.
Anyone have any idea about what I should do? Thinking about trying to restore to a stock Tom somehow tonight. Then I'm thinking about looking for screen replacements.
I was curious if anyone has had this issue before.
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ebay for the parts and look around for the link for repairs. I don't exactly remember the link, but it's in one of the "spring replacement" threads. Good luck
mputtr said:
ebay for the parts and look around for the link for repairs. I don't exactly remember the link, but it's in one of the "spring replacement" threads. Good luck
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How sure are you it's the LCD screen? Replacement screens cost more than what I bought the phone for...lol
it's mostly the physical connection to the screen.
and on your note about it costing more than what you bought the phone for... there are tons of parts on the phone that will cost more than 30bucks. not much you can do about that since you got it non fully functional.
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it's mostly the physical connection to the screen.
and on your note about it costing more than what you bought the phone for... there are tons of parts on the phone that will cost more than 30bucks. not much you can do about that since you got it non fully functional.
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Sorry to be a both, but what exactly is the physical connection? Do I find it by opening the phone up completely to the point where I replace the actual LCD?
albanianbrotha said:
Sorry to be a both, but what exactly is the physical connection? Do I find it by opening the phone up completely to the point where I replace the actual LCD?
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Never had to do it myself, but there is a cable connecting the two parts of the phone. That is usually where this problem originates from. It's not easy to fix though if your not familiar with fixing electronics from what i have seen.
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Never had to do it myself, but there is a cable connecting the two parts of the phone. That is usually where this problem originates from. It's not easy to fix though if your not familiar with fixing electronics from what i have seen.
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I've taken apart my laptop completely and put it back together before. Completely as in taking the lcd off and different chips and wireless modules and stuff. I think it may be something I can handle. I'm going to take a look at it now. Restoring wont do me any good because not even the boot screen shows up.
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Sorry to be a both, but what exactly is the physical connection? Do I find it by opening the phone up completely to the point where I replace the actual LCD?
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It's pretty much a ribbon cable that feeds data to display and stuff. When you buy a spare screen, it usually comes with a connector
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It's pretty much a ribbon cable that feeds data to display and stuff. When you buy a spare screen, it usually comes with a connector
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So I completely tore apart the phone, got to the point where if I had another LCD screen, I could have easily switched it out. But I don't, so I just put it all back together. I really hope this new LCD will fix the issue. I really hope it's not some other motherboard issue. If all else fails, it goes up on eBay for $70-$100 as is for the phone. If I fix it, I just got myself a phone that goes for $200 used for only $57.
sure. goodluck with it. if you can do it then you're all set. good luck
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So I completely tore apart the phone, got to the point where if I had another LCD screen, I could have easily switched it out. But I don't, so I just put it all back together. I really hope this new LCD will fix the issue. I really hope it's not some other motherboard issue. If all else fails, it goes up on eBay for $70-$100 as is for the phone. If I fix it, I just got myself a phone that goes for $200 used for only $57.
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Only $57? That would make the lcd screen $27 if u really paid $30 for the phone, but you said the screen was more than what u paid for the phone...so now im confused.
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Got my fingers crossed for ya that your getting ur phone fixed over there
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Only $57? That would make the lcd screen $27 if u really paid $30 for the phone, but you said the screen was more than what u paid for the phone...so now im confused.
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Sorry. After some searching on eBay, I found some sellers selling it for a few dollars less than 30, e.g. 27.
But I decided to go with a seller who sold more than 200, who claims the screen is an OEM screen, and who is top rated. He sells his for $32. Which makes my phone $62 after all is said and done.
The housing has some scratches on the top and bottom though, which decreases the value a bit, but hey, if it works I'll probably keep it as a backup. Currently have the HD2, but I got a Vibrant with original box and accessories for $100, so I think I'm going to sell the HD2.
That was kinda off topic, sorry
LCD screen should be here by the 13th.
Updated OP
someone help =|
I don't own a G2 but I still think this could be a similar issue to what we get over here on the HTC Droid Incredible. First, what makes you believe its still a screen issue if it lit but just didn't throw picture? Usually thats the symptom of having the wrong recovery version for the device hardware version. Normally for us what happens is we will get somebody who is new and rooting for the first time and they'll end up flashing the wrong recovery or freak out because they don't realize the root process takes a little while and yank the cord. End result being exactly what you've explained above. Phone starts but no screen. So we end up having them do the ruu or a second option which we call a "blind install" where you drop whatever your p file(ours is PB31IMG.zip) so whatever it is for the G2 drop that on the SD and reboot to hboot and do the update process by simply knowing how long to wait between key presses and what keys to hit without useing the screen. Its a unique process and all very magical. Haven't lost a single Inc yet because of this issue.
Anyways bud just a thought...
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I don't own a G2 but I still think this could be a similar issue to what we get over here on the HTC Droid Incredible. First, what makes you believe its still a screen issue if it lit but just didn't throw picture? Usually thats the symptom of having the wrong recovery version for the device hardware version. Normally for us what happens is we will get somebody who is new and rooting for the first time and they'll end up flashing the wrong recovery or freak out because they don't realize the root process takes a little while and yank the cord. End result being exactly what you've explained above. Phone starts but no screen. So we end up having them do the ruu or a second option which we call a "blind install" where you drop whatever your p file(ours is PB31IMG.zip) so whatever it is for the G2 drop that on the SD and reboot to hboot and do the update process by simply knowing how long to wait between key presses and what keys to hit without useing the screen. Its a unique process and all very magical. Haven't lost a single Inc yet because of this issue.
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It doesn't seem to be a ROM issue.
Update 7/18: Sold the G2 on eBay and still made a good lump of money. I was very happy, until another G2 popped up with the same exact issue. Got it for a steal as well, and I tried the OEM screen I got from eBay, and it was still having issues, and it seems to cause the phone to overheat while charging. Definitely a defective screen and someones getting a great deal on a decent condition G2 because I already took the payment after I figured it was the screen I got.
I'm going to try to get a replacement from the guy that sold it to me on eBay, but I already left him positive feedback thinking it was the phone's fault.
Will update probably late July or early August when all of this gets sorted out.
TL;DR: bought 2nd g2 with same issue, turns out replacement screen didn't work in the 2nd g2, too late to not sell the first g2, getting another replacement screen to fix 2nd g2. First g2 was in better condition though =|
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
Just installed the second screen that I ordered, and it works PERFECTLY. Phone is perfect nowwww yay. I can't use it right now though, previous owned put a lock pattern on the phone...
Wipe the system and the data and start over.
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Gratz now a factory wipe and root with a new rom will make it run sweet.
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I actually think i'm going to either:
-bring my samsung back for fixing
-sell my samsung and buy a more reliable phone
-cry in a corner.
I've had the home button problems since a few months or so...
Sometimes it won't react at all when i press it, sometimes it brings up the voice control, sometimes it'll lag for 2 seconds...
I tried a factory reset, tried updating, tried uninstalling voice apps and nothing works...
If anyone has any tips i don't know of please let me know before i send it for replacement because this is unacceptable on a €600 phone.
Any help is appreciated
You may have dusts stuck under the button. Try this trick I used to loosen my iPhone's home button:
1) turn the phone upside down
2) tap the button with your finger nail a few times firmly (but not very hard as it can damage the circuitry underneath)
3) wipe the edges of the button with a moist tissue or cloth
4) wipe the button dry with a dry tissue or cloth
are you serious...?
Riqz said:
I actually think i'm going to either:
-bring my samsung back for fixing
-sell my samsung and buy a more reliable phone
-cry in a corner.
I've had the home button problems since a few months or so...
Sometimes it won't react at all when i press it, sometimes it brings up the voice control, sometimes it'll lag for 2 seconds...
I tried a factory reset, tried updating, tried uninstalling voice apps and nothing works...
If anyone has any tips i don't know of please let me know before i send it for replacement because this is unacceptable on a €600 phone.
Any help is appreciated
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How about RMA and have it repaired/replaced?
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How about RMA and have it repaired/replaced?
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Definetly looking to replace it right now. Not satisfied at all.
If i do get it RMA'd can i leave it rooted? Should i unroot it?
Wiggle
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are you serious...?
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Have you tried to wiggle it a bit then blow it gentley?
TechWizard said:
Have you tried to wiggle it a bit then blow it gentley?
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That's what she said.
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That's what she said.
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True but maybe blowing it a little or a light vac may help disperse any particles if thats the cause mate
Yep, the home button really is ****ing crap. Mine doesn't work at all since month. I found a work around (using a volume button as home button, but its a shame for samsung)
I tried to send in it but they told me that it's a moisture damage (a lie if you would ask me) and they aren't able to repair it even if i'd pay for it.
So my next phone will have as few moving parts as possible.
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have my gs2 for about 4months now i use home button a lot and have no problem
i even use it gym and some time it gets sweaty still no damage
you have a faulty unit i think
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Yep, the home button really is ****ing crap. Mine doesn't work at all since month. I found a work around (using a volume button as home button, but its a shame for samsung)
I tried to send in it but they told me that it's a moisture damage (a lie if you would ask me) and they aren't able to repair it even if i'd pay for it.
So my next phone will have as few moving parts as possible.
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i think i would sell mine if they sent it back for that reason
yeah, a blow always help. at least for moral.
but depends on who is giving to who the blow
now seriously, mine got including in my daughter's hands while she was eating so a lot of moisture god onto the button and it's still working.
and by the way, they are forced by the law to fix it, at least for money, because the law, at least in UE is forcing them to offer post warranty support.
Basically they will change the mother board.
I had the same issue with stock rom reflashed with oxygen and miui and not experienced it since, coincidence maybe?
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are you serious...?
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Totally.
My iphone's home button stopped responding after about 6 months and I was about to return it for replacement. The button's responsiveness is still like new to this day after "cleaning" - the unit is 15 months old and counting.
sometimes it'll lag for 2 seconds...
This case is normal because Samsung is code home btn to wait for double click (so it can bring up a voice command) so it have a delay time to wait for it.
Btw you can disable it by using jkay to disable home btn double click.
Had the same issue as OP.
I went to the customer care center here and complained (which was a pain in the azz), then finally stood there until they reacted. Overall, they ordered a new screen and took care of it.
It took about 5 days for it to be replaced. I had the device until then of course.
Try button saviour from the market.
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If you bought the phone in the UK you are protected by the Sale of Goods Act 1979 which you should mention to the retailer. If this isn't the case I'm sure there are repair shops that could fit a new button relatively cheaply, that is if the blow job trick doesn't work
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turn the device off, remove the battery and spray a bit of contact cleaner on the home button gaps.. it should work then
15 months..? My iphone's been goin' for almost 40...<3 jb 3g
As far as the topic goes, I heard about this lumia 800 recently...
Hi All,
I love my Arc S. Love it. I'm even more careful with this phone than I usually am.
Unfortunately, my Arc S was knocked out of my hand over the weekend and fell on the floor. The back cover came off and battery fell out. In the rain!
Fortunately, the phone is almost perfectly fine - except the Up Volume button virtually no longer works properly. It takes a very, very hard press to respond and seems to be rapidly degarding to the point where it won't work at all.
Can anyone recommend a way I can get this fixed reliably and economically? I really don't like the idea of sending my phone away, but I like the idea of it not working properly even less. I can attempt a self-repair too if feasible.
I'm based in London, UK.
With thanks,
schnide
just set it to high and leave it? . Then if required you can change it via settings. You can also buy buttons off ebay.
soldiers33 said:
just set it to high and leave it? . Then if required you can change it via settings. You can also buy buttons off ebay.
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That's fine for call volume, not so fine for media volume which can need changing constantly.
And buying new buttons might not solve the problem - the physical button looks fine apart from tiny cosmetic damage.
I would really appreciate an answer from someone with expertise on the internals of the Arc S to see if this can be fixed
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Hi All,
I love my Arc S. Love it. I'm even more careful with this phone than I usually am.
Unfortunately, my Arc S was knocked out of my hand over the weekend and fell on the floor. The back cover came off and battery fell out. In the rain!
Fortunately, the phone is almost perfectly fine - except the Up Volume button virtually no longer works properly. It takes a very, very hard press to respond and seems to be rapidly degarding to the point where it won't work at all.
Can anyone recommend a way I can get this fixed reliably and economically? I really don't like the idea of sending my phone away, but I like the idea of it not working properly even less. I can attempt a self-repair too if feasible.
I'm based in London, UK.
With thanks,
schnide
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Why not give it to sony for a repair..
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king-iyokan said:
Why not give it to sony for a repair..
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It's not a bad idea I suppose, but I can't help feeling that'll be the most expensive way of doing it and I don't know what their repair quality is like.
I bought a French unit (from a UK company) although I imagine it has a European warranty. Thing is, the unit was damaged by 'myself' and hasn't just turned faulty on its own.
wen i sed change buttons i meant thr actual ribbon part. Not the physical buttons.
soldiers33 said:
wen i sed change buttons i meant thr actual ribbon part. Not the physical buttons.
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Ah right, sorry I didn't realise. I had a quick search on eBay but unfortunately found nothing. I guess I'd have to find a repair guide too.
Off to Google..
schnidex said:
Hi All,
I love my Arc S. Love it. I'm even more careful with this phone than I usually am.
Unfortunately, my Arc S was knocked out of my hand over the weekend and fell on the floor. The back cover came off and battery fell out. In the rain!
Fortunately, the phone is almost perfectly fine - except the Up Volume button virtually no longer works properly. It takes a very, very hard press to respond and seems to be rapidly degarding to the point where it won't work at all.
Can anyone recommend a way I can get this fixed reliably and economically? I really don't like the idea of sending my phone away, but I like the idea of it not working properly even less. I can attempt a self-repair too if feasible.
I'm based in London, UK.
With thanks,
schnide
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It you flash the official ICS rom onto your handset then you gain the ability to move the volume slider on the phone screen up and down. This works for media volume and call volume.
There also might be an app on the market to do this - have a look there
also if there are no scraches you could possible send it into Sony and say that it stopped working on its own accord
adsada arc said:
It you flash the official ICS rom onto your handset then you gain the ability to move the volume slider on the phone screen up and down. This works for media volume and call volume.
There also might be an app on the market to do this - have a look there
also if there are no scraches you could possible send it into Sony and say that it stopped working on its own accord
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Thanks for this, I'll bear it in mind but would like to have the hardware side working as that's what it's meant to do.
Unfortuantely there is minor cosmetic damage on the volume button in the form of a small scratch/dent.
ive seen a site before that sells lots of different ribbosn for arc. Search it up on google I think it cost around £7 or £8
soldiers33 said:
ive seen a site before that sells lots of different ribbosn for arc. Search it up on google I think it cost around £7 or £8
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Tried 'Sony Ercisson Arc S Ribbon' and 'Sony Ercisson Arc S Ribbon Replacement' but no joy - any other search term ideas?
I appreciate your help by the way, so thank you.
just tried looking and cant find it anymore. Only ones I can find are keypad, and camera buttons.
Also if youre saying it works when pushing hard maybe its cause the plastic behind it snapped off therefore you must push very hard in order for it to catch against something. I think its best to open the phone and have a look.
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It's not a bad idea I suppose, but I can't help feeling that'll be the most expensive way of doing it and I don't know what their repair quality is like.
I bought a French unit (from a UK company) although I imagine it has a European warranty. Thing is, the unit was damaged by 'myself' and hasn't just turned faulty on its own.
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Man they are gonna repair it even if you were the one responsible for the damage.. And repairs can be done all ovr the globe. They are just going to charge you for the repair.. I think its a lot better idea than banging your head..
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Hey all I went swimming yesterday and forgot to take my phone out. It spent 5 mins under water. Im very tech savy and knew to put in a bowl of rice and let sit for 24 hours. Put phone back together and it booted up!! Heres the problem and question I have.
Problem is everything on phone works but the touch screnn (power, volume up and down, settings and go back buttons) I get notifications from Facebook and when I hit the goback or settings button or power phone on it vibrates.
Question is since everything on screen works ( meaning it shows all icons that are turned on and shows me my custome background and apps) can I just replace the digitizer or is it one piece with the screen and I have to replace both?
Any help would be deeply apprechiated as I dont have $650 to buy a replacement phone
-Ryan
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Hey all I went swimming yesterday and forgot to take my phone out. It spent 5 mins under water. Im very tech savy and knew to put in a bowl of rice and let sit for 24 hours. Put phone back together and it booted up!! Heres the problem and question I have.
Problem is everything on phone works but the touch screnn (power, volume up and down, settings and go back buttons) I get notifications from Facebook and when I hit the goback or settings button or power phone on it vibrates.
Question is since everything on screen works ( meaning it shows all icons that are turned on and shows me my custome background and apps) can I just replace the digitizer or is it one piece with the screen and I have to replace both?
Any help would be deeply apprechiated as I dont have $650 to buy a replacement phone
-Ryan
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Oh btw I did a hard reset to the boot menu and did a wiping of the cach and all as well as a factory erase and reset. When the phone resets it takes me to the Samsung set up page but I cant do anything as the touchscreen doesnt respond to me touching it over the next tab
I beg of you, what device? Is it a flip phone?
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I beg of you, what device? Is it a flip phone?
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Samsung Galaxy S4
juda222000 said:
Oh btw I did a hard reset to the boot menu and did a wiping of the cach and all as well as a factory erase and reset. When the phone resets it takes me to the Samsung set up page but I cant do anything as the touchscreen doesnt respond to me touching it over the next tab
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The amoled is damaged... surprising as it passes many water tests, you were just unlucky im sorry :\
So the phone powers on, and you say it boots, to samsung, you are talking about the OS right, and then it becomes un-responsive?
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The amoled is damaged... surprising as it passes many water tests, you were just unlucky im sorry :\
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So how do I fix it replace the screen?
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So the phone powers on, and you say it boots, to samsung, you are talking about the OS right, and then it becomes un-responsive?
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Originally it booted all the way to my home screen, meaning the OS fully loaded. Then when the touchscreen didnt respond I decided maybe it would be best to do a full data wipe and factory install. I figured since 90% of the phone did comback and work I thought a factory restart. Would fix the touch sensitivity. So when I did that it took me to a set up screen for my phone, asking me location and language settings. I cant continue past that point because the screen is unresponsive. However I suspect if I could get past that point the phone would fully boot as it did the 15 times prior to the wiping of data and factory reset option I choose.
I hope this helps you, Im doing my best to explain everything in as much detail as possible
Thanks for helping me
Ryan
juda222000 said:
Originally it booted all the way to my home screen, meaning the OS fully loaded. Then when the touchscreen didnt respond I decided maybe it would be best to do a full data wipe and factory install. I figured since 90% of the phone did comback and work I thought a factory restart. Would fix the touch sensitivity. So when I did that it took me to a set up screen for my phone, asking me location and language settings. I cant continue past that point because the screen is unresponsive. However I suspect if I could get past that point the phone would fully boot as it did the 15 times prior to the wiping of data and factory reset option I choose.
I hope this helps you, Im doing my best to explain everything in as much detail as possible
Thanks for helping me
Ryan
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Does the touchscreen work AT ALL ?
If you have the balls or know how I would disassemble the device to check screen/digitizer connections. There are several youtube videos showing instructions.
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jetlitheone said:
Does the touchscreen work AT ALL ?
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As far as responding to touching icons or apps no. But it does display everything else like normal and my phone does get notification updates and the screen shows me when they come in. Just cant access anything by touching the screen
jamess0621 said:
If you have the balls or know how I would disassemble the device to check screen/digitizer connections. There are several youtube videos showing instructions.
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Yeah I have no probs with that I fix computers so that shouldnt be too far of a streatch. Do u know if I can just replace the digitizer or do I have to replace both the screen and digitizer?
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As far as responding to touching icons or apps no. But it does display everything else like normal and my phone does get notification updates and the screen shows me when they come in. Just cant access anything by touching the screen
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Yes amoled seems messed up but can be a few other things I'm not really keen on this subject too well so idk :/
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jetlitheone said:
Yes amoled seems messed up but can be a few other things I'm not really keen on this subject too well so idk :/
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Ok well I apprechiate all ur help, im still digging for more info as well so if u hear of anything else. Let me know and thx again =)
juda222000 said:
Yeah I have no probs with that I fix computers so that shouldnt be too far of a streatch. Do u know if I can just replace the digitizer or do I have to replace both the screen and digitizer?
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Very good possibility replacing the digitizer alone would do it. I would also highly recommend cleaning all battery terminals, circuit boards and metal parts with alcohol and a qtip to prevent corrosion.
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jamess0621 said:
Very good possibility replacing the digitizer alone would do it. I would also highly recommend cleaning all battery terminals, circuit boards and metal parts with alcohol and a qtip to prevent corrosion.
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Ok man thanks for all the tips I will do all of them, btw do u know where I can get parts, ie digitizer and screen if needed?
juda222000 said:
Ok man thanks for all the tips I will do all of them, btw do u know where I can get parts, ie digitizer and screen if needed?
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If you are willing I would try craigslist to see if you find one that may have a cracked screen or been dropped where you could swap parts. If not a quick google search will give you several options. You will probably be looking around 250 for a factory digitizer. Good luck
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jamess0621 said:
If you are willing I would try craigslist to see if you find one that may have a cracked screen or been dropped where you could swap parts. If not a quick google search will give you several options. You will probably be looking around 250 for a factory digitizer. Good luck
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Ill do that, hey thx again man, heck 250 a lot better than 599 lol
The problem is you don't know if it stops at that 250. There's no guarantee the phone will work reliably for months/years after such incident. You should clean it thoroughly (perhaps by somebody (service center?), who know how to do it properly) to avoid/lessen the risk of any (further?) corrosion inside.
Good luck.
jamess0621 said:
Very good possibility replacing the digitizer alone would do it. I would also highly recommend cleaning all battery terminals, circuit boards and metal parts with alcohol and a qtip to prevent corrosion.
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Isn't the digitizer fixed to the glass on this device?
where you end up, depends on where you start.
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