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Why do i need to install a new ROM?

Sorry for another noob question, but i own a blackstone for 2 weeks now and
i'm trying to realize why there are so many different ROMs out there.
* i'm not asking a "which rom question", just trying to learn more.
So.. i have a new blackstone with WM6.1 and TF3d. why do i need to install
a ROM anyway? i know i don't have to, but i see many people talking about it
and i feel that i'm missing something.

I would say... if you are happy with your ROM, there's no reason to change. In general, the usual reasons are:
- Your ROM is branded (Orange, T-Mobile...) and you don't need the 'extras' that your carrier has included in default ROM.
- You want to make some 'tuning' or your device and someone has cooked a ROM which includes all the patches, tricks and regisitry changes that will make your device better
- There are new versions of TF3D, camera program, or any other default program and HTC does not offer these updates to you, are only included in a new device; however you will always find a cooked ROM where these updates are included.
- Customization: Some cooked ROMs include nice TF3D customization, wallpapers, and a set of finger-friendly applications pre-installed. If you are bored with default settings and you don't like to spend much time downloading & trying things, a new ROM could be an option.
I'm still using the ROM that came with my unit.

My personal reason to flash a new (custom) rom, is to get more out of the HD then HTC give me originally. I just knew it had more potential (and I was right ). Plus, I like to play around with PC's, gadgets etc.

What's all this about newer radio versions?

Why do people rebuild old cars? why add 4-barrel carb and headers ect. Many reasons many cooked roms preform better than stock. other include apps in the rom not included by your vender. Others flash just to tinker, its fun to try the newest latest. Mosttly its to customize what you have and make it diffrent from the 100,000 other HDs

I would be very cautious about flashing your device with unofficial ROMs. While making a few improvements they carry a potentially large number of glitches. So if you're an adventurous type, go for it. Otherwise stick to the official ROM.

kevinsmbuk said:
What's all this about newer radio versions?
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Link to new radio's thread here and flashing radio's in wiki here
The radio provides improvements on the GSM radio stack and this has effect on the GSM signal, AT command interface, GSM data modem (3G, GPRS, EDGE, HSDPA, etc...) functionality that is controlled by the Radio Interface Layer (RIL). The radio stack has nothing to do with WiFi or bluetooth -- it is only for the GSM/WCDMA(3G) part of the device.
Newer radio's our released which may improve GSM signal, although certain radio's work better for different countries/areas.

Ok now i get it.
I have the original ROM that came with my device and after i've found out why
people change their ROMs i think it doesn't really worth it.
The only thing i've found useful is changing my radio version, which works really
good. so now i have radio v1.12 installed.
Of course i like to tweak my device and configure it to my own needs, but for
this reason i've installed many apps without flashing a cooked ROM.

GoldCoin said:
Ok now i get it.
I have the original ROM that came with my device and after i've found out why
people change their ROMs i think it doesn't really worth it.
The only thing i've found useful is changing my radio version, which works really
good. so now i have radio v1.12 installed.
Of course i like to tweak my device and configure it to my own needs, but for
this reason i've installed many apps without flashing a cooked ROM.
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There is also some fixes which have been released by HTC for screen flickering etc which can be found on their website here

If you install a new ROM version, is possible the to put the old (original) version back to your HTC (abd howw to do that) or is too late then ?

Fallen Spartan said:
There is also some fixes which have been released by HTC for screen flickering etc which can be found on their website here
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Installed these fixes as well, but i wish HTC had more stuff in their website to download. Like newer radio versions for example?
Anyway i'm glad we can find all these things here on XDA-developers.

GoldCoin said:
Anyway i'm glad we can find all these things here on XDA-developers.
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Thats why we're here!!!
Welcome to xda developers!!

What a warm welcome that guy got.
It answered most of the question I have about using cooked (non-official) roms too.
If we are using non official ROMs can we still change the TF3D theme's and look of the Touch HD?
I am having trouble finding the best set of applications to replace the calendar, mail, SMS etc etc... I guess this is a regular question, BUT any suggestions?

ghorricks said:
What a warm welcome that guy got.
It answered most of the question I have about using cooked (non-official) roms too.
If we are using non official ROMs can we still change the TF3D theme's and look of the Touch HD?
I am having trouble finding the best set of applications to replace the calendar, mail, SMS etc etc... I guess this is a regular question, BUT any suggestions?
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Not to make you feel left out....Welcome to xda developers!!
There are numerous different themes and applications you can use to change your phones appearance. They can all be found in the applications forum located here. Do a general search for what you are looking for i.e. themes or calendar and see what threads aleady exist before creating any new ones. An example of a thread is this one Customizing TF3D - The Collection!
Hope this helps
EDIT
Also check out the wiki
Tweaks section which offers advice on:
How to customize the HD (eg. backgrounds, themes, icons etc.), Manila Research
How to customize TF3D tab icons
And the applications section:
Programs/Utilities working on the Touch HD (1 - M)
Programs/Utilities working on the Touch HD (N - Z)
Games working on the Touch HD (A - Z)
Games that have been tested to work in Full screen Mode on a HD
Touch HD freeware
Useful Software for your Blackstone

Touch Flo v.3.0 available on HD?

Simple question.
I've read about the new features of the 3rd version of Touch Flo (on the upcoming HTC Touch Pro 2 and Diamond 2) and they are quite interesting.
I just wondered whether by any chance this new version could be installed on the HTC HD (once it's out of course)
Thx

there are already tons of custom roms with this new tf3d

Oh! I wasn't aware of that... have an example so I can test it?

gauthierserkyn said:
Oh! I wasn't aware of that... have an example so I can test it?
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Duttys Roms, Laurentius Roms,...

gauthierserkyn said:
Oh! I wasn't aware of that... have an example so I can test it?
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Think the list is endless. Go to ROM's development forum and seach. I'm currently using Duttys 2.5 Xtreme, though Laurentius & Davideuck are just as commonly used

crashDebug said:
there are already tons of custom roms with this new tf3d
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hi...is there any way of getting new touch flo 3 without need of flashing ur phone? any chance of someone making an instalation .cab?

marasp said:
hi...is there any way of getting new touch flo 3 without need of flashing ur phone? any chance of someone making an instalation .cab?
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Go to the "Themes, Applications and Software" and you will found you cab's

excuse me for being a nub but what are the benefits of flashing vs cab install

nowhere to be seen
Elim said:
Go to the "Themes, Applications and Software" and you will found you cab's
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well... i always do my home work before posting, that is why i did ask question...i could not find any cab, and believe me i spent hours looking throughout our gigantic forum...
if u know location where such cab is hiding from my eyes please share it with us.

There is no "cab" install and there never will be.
This isn't just an application you install on your phone - it's a complete system overhaul, with new TF3D, with all new and / or updated system applications: phone, calendar, contacts, call history, calculator, browser etc.
Let me illustrate however the difference between the stock ROM and the custom cooked ROM's available here on XDA. It's like going from Skoda to latest Ferrari.
That means you'll get a lot of great looking stuff, many cool applications already included, everything will be as new as possible, you'll be running at MUCH faster speed, but you also have to accept that you'll "burn more gas" - battery life may take a small impact.
Is it worth it? Well, it's like you bought a new device, so - yes.

bigv1 said:
excuse me for being a nub but what are the benefits of flashing vs cab install
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If you flash a ROM that already includes the new manila it will probably be alot smoother because the ROM will be optimized and tweaked for it! If you install it over the old Manila it probably won't give you the best experience... Also, the newer ROMs not only include the new Manila, but also things like finger-friendly menus!

really is that true???
Rozenthal said:
There is no "cab" install and there never will be.
This isn't just an application you install on your phone - it's a complete system overhaul, with new TF3D, with all new and / or updated system applications: phone, calendar, contacts, call history, calculator, browser etc.
Let me illustrate however the difference between the stock ROM and the custom cooked ROM's available here on XDA. It's like going from Skoda to latest Ferrari.
That means you'll get a lot of great looking stuff, many cool applications already included, everything will be as new as possible, you'll be running at MUCH faster speed, but you also have to accept that you'll "burn more gas" - battery life may take a small impact.
Is it worth it? Well, it's like you bought a new device, so - yes.
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is that really..... so could u explain to us what that is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493531 ..... i think it is possible.... manila is at the end, today screen replacement like the ones of SPB and others.... of course its complicated and incorporated into windows folder but as u can see impossible is nothing here ....
regards

marasp said:
well... i always do my home work before posting, that is why i did ask question...i could not find any cab, and believe me i spent hours looking throughout our gigantic forum...
if u know location where such cab is hiding from my eyes please share it with us.
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I'm pretty new to all this as well and had a lot of difficulty figuring it out! What I think happens is this: The ROM is a bit like the BIOS so you can't modify it within WM6.1. Also, the original ROMs are protected so you can't replace them with an unofficial version (they are signed).
To get around this, you can use something like Hard SPL (which overwrites the existing ROM) or USPL (which works around it).
I finally went with USPL2.5 and Dutty's extreme ROM v2.6.
Incidentally, I'm not really noticing much of a speed improvement... Especially with the music player which now takes a second to load up... Am I meant to?

how can i have sense (weather) on my tp2 using only winmo 6.1

Hi,
my os is still winmo 6.1 and i don't really want to upgrade to 6.5 yet (because the next g rom isnt out yet and i dont want a different version). but i do like the htc sense UI with the weather in the middle of the time animated and the colourful task icons.
i want something like this:
http ://www . redmondpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/HD21.jpg
is it necessary to upgrade to 6.5 to have this? or can i have it and still have 6.1?
thanks

Jackos hybrid rom includes WM6.1 and Sense 2.1... He is also working on Sense 2.5 for WM6.1, I believe. Check it out, I tried and it's really stable. Only a couple minor bugs. But there's a ton of free RAM and it's really quick! Link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618063

Showtime7 said:
Jackos hybrid rom includes WM6.1 and Sense 2.1... He is also working on Sense 2.5 for WM6.1, I believe. Check it out, I tried and it's really stable. Only a couple minor bugs. But there's a ton of free RAM and it's really quick! Link below:
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okay COOL! thanks
but will you tell me what kind of bugs are there? thanks again
AND another thing - will i be able to still keep my old touchflo3d interface (like i can choose either this jacko rom or the one i have now on the today settings), or will this completely change my interface? thanks

Jacko ROM rocks.. I have been using it intensively for a whole week...
and frankly... together with the Tarkim's Keyboard Configuration Apps... they save my TP2 from being dumped into the drawer... You must try it out if you want Sense on 6.1 (I don't want 6.5 too.. as I hate that stupid honeycomb interface which takes away my keyboard quick selection ...)

is there any way to get the sense with the weather without flashing a new rom?? if not is there any way to flash roms on a mac and or unlock my tp2 on a mac? what about backing up/syncing my tp2?

[ROM][miROM1][ENG] OS 6.5.5 BUILD 23569 UPDATE 27.09. Rel.3 Clean Sense 2018

INFO:
miROM1 Rel.1 was 236 x downloaded
miROM1 Rel.12 was 367 x downloaded
[miROM1] [ENG] UPDATE 27.09. Rel.3 Clean Sense 2018 with Standard WM StartMenu, 73 MB free RAM
realatives clean: if like download cabs from my CabS CollectioN
- no Co0kiHomeTab (coast 15 MB RAM)
- no ManilaDailer (give 8MB free RAM)
- only one pair esential cabs installed
- Full worked SENSE2018/2016, very, very fast
Download LINK http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KCRR24YC RADIO (5001.0300.76) 142 x downloads
Download LINK http://www.megaupload.com/?d=90BL97SX RADIO (5005.1600.05) 78x downloads
Download LINK http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LLC1ONWP RADIO (5005.1700.05) 312 x downloads
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anyone can this, risk free: to change the RADIO with desired RADIO version instruction in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699764
-with NEW 2018 HtcMessagingClient. If you haver Problems with MMS, then install HtcMessagingDisabled.cab

Possible with SENSE 2.5 2016 ?
Its faster than SENSE 2.5 2012

mirolg said:
which RadioVersion is preferred?
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Personally I would like to see the 1700 radio, 1600 was far too flakey in calls for me.
Also as much as I like the sound of your rom, is it possible to have all the original rom art/icons etc? I prefer those and also we have the ability to chose prefered sets by cab ourselves, thanks.

Uber Cool
74 MB free RAM WoW...Cant wait..x_X

I would like to see the 1700 radio, too.

eddgarms said:
Possible with SENSE 2.5 2016 ?
Its faster than SENSE 2.5 2012
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normally yes, but this ROM, with a sense 2012 is almost perfect and without buggs. i have make a lot of modifications and improvements will have to transfer them to 2016 is very complicated and a risk of a new buggs.
.... And if you drive 250 kmh speed, then is 300 kmh so nothing special more
will do in the near future even a 2016 ROM.
if by then no one new with 2% more speed coming out

Mirolg.
Maybe U cook WP7 on TG01?
This system look's very pretty.
Rom look avesome )) Keep it going Bro.

dunda92 said:
Mirolg.
Maybe U cook WP7 on TG01?
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I do wish people would stop requesting that, it doesn't appear to be on any other phone either and from what I've seen of it is a closed crappy iPhone rip off

ZedEx48K said:
Personally I would like to see the 1700 radio, 1600 was far too flakey in calls for me.
Also as much as I like the sound of your rom, is it possible to have all the original rom art/icons etc? I prefer those and also we have the ability to chose prefered sets by cab ourselves, thanks.
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Yes, all art / icon is still present and not overcooked. the icons in today screen are temporary
...o.k. i make one with 1700 Radio. link will come today

ZedEx48K said:
I do wish people would stop requesting that, it doesn't appear to be on any other phone either and from what I've seen of it is a closed crappy iPhone rip off
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WIN7, not for me, thanks sorry is a ugly, idiot UI
...and i not a profi- chef cook- i´m a user like you, with selfmade cooking kurs (learn all in this best forum). normaly i make for me and my german user a ROM.. because little specials german ROM´s in TG01 forum!

I see that this is based on Novembre5's rom - many UK users seem to the like 5001.0300.76 radio.
Is this ready for download in English yet - would love to try it.
I am going to thw Windows Phone User Group meeting this week - suggest that until WP7 is properly reviewed it is not prejudged!

TONYKENT said:
I am going to thw Windows Phone User Group meeting this week - suggest that until WP7 is properly reviewed it is not prejudged!
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Having read about its closed enviroment (next to current windows phones) and the fact I have used it to an extent via the emulator, I can say pretty strongly that my next phone will end up being Android based (unless it makes a stable appearence on the TG01).
Back on topic though, if this rom is pretty much the same as the FFBoy 6.5.5 rom I am currently running but with the CHT and 74meg free I should be happy for some time

TONYKENT said:
I see that this is based on Novembre5's rom - many UK users seem to the like 5001.0300.76 radio.
Is this ready for download in English yet - would love to try it.
I am going to thw Windows Phone User Group meeting this week - suggest that until WP7 is properly reviewed it is not prejudged!
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sorry, you are to late:
OS Build: 23563 RADIO: 5005.1700.05 to chnage the RADIO with other version instruction in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699764
upload in progress. link comes in 10th Min.
Perhaps a user can modify and upload the radio?
My German user Vjess help me always!

Thank you for jumping to an English ROM! I'll update mi ROM's table this night
It looks very interesting. I wanna check it, but I like a lot SPB Mobile Shell.... can you or anyone tell me some good reasons to move to Sense instead? I love specially the 3 (or 5) Professional and Live views full of icons (one hundred approx,) , from there I can launch apps easily. Can I do the same on Sense?
Thank You

LINK online!

Pere said:
from there I can launch apps easily. Can I do the same on Sense?
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Sense has a program launcher and with cookies home tab this is vastly expanded to allow multiple pages for it etc.

Pere said:
Thank you for jumping to an English ROM! I'll update mi ROM's table this night
It looks very interesting. I wanna check it, but I like a lot SPB Mobile Shell.... can you or anyone tell me some good reasons to move to Sense instead? I love specially the 3 (or 5) Professional and Live views full of icons (one hundred approx,) , from there I can launch apps easily. Can I do the same on Sense?
Thank You
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... you, and others have insisted, emphatically!
I don´t know, looks beautiful. but is not so clear. Currently in my ROM Co0kiHomeTab is 1.8.5. Switches and similar administrative appointment as SPB.
I like SPB Mobile Shell too. SPB Mobile Shell + MobileSenseTheme is actually the best kombi. especially the invisible buttons. I think my next ROM will be SPB Mobile Shell + MobileSenseTheme.

mirolg said:
......I think my next ROM will be SPB Mobile Shell + MobileSenseTheme.....
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Yes, yes...please!!

the megaupload link seems to be unavailable for this rom download....
link working now... downloading..,, thanks in advance

the megaupload link: The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable.

[REQ] Simple HD2 rom

Dear developers,
I would kindly ask if someone can create a very simple rom for me. I tried a lot of roms and most of them were great, fast and stable, but my problem is that I do not use a lot of the applications installed. For example, I do not use twitter, or TCMP or Wifi monster etc, I prefer the simple windows file explorer than total commander etc.
I would like a rom, close to stock version, that will be fast and stable and will have only the minimum required applications. I like sense but I don’t need cookie’s home application, I can install it myself if I get bored of the standard sense. The main use of the device, is as a phone, music player, camera, video (I use the paid version of Core Media player) and office use.
I tried Carnage HD2 lite beta, but it lacks of sense and the start menu and x button on the bottom of the screen…
To sum up, please, can someone create a very simple and lite rom (6.5.5 based), with no extra applications, no extra visual additions, only the minimum required applications (the less the better) and that it can be fast and stable?
Kind regards,
Jardan

jardan said:
Dear developers,
I would kindly ask if someone can create a very simple rom for me. I tried a lot of roms and most of them were great, fast and stable, but my problem is that I do not use a lot of the applications installed. For example, I do not use twitter, or TCMP or Wifi monster etc, I prefer the simple windows file explorer than total commander etc.
I would like a rom, close to stock version, that will be fast and stable and will have only the minimum required applications. I like sense but I don’t need cookie’s home application, I can install it myself if I get bored of the standard sense. The main use of the device, is as a phone, music player, camera, video (I use the paid version of Core Media player) and office use.
I tried Carnage HD2 lite beta, but it lacks of sense and the start menu and x button on the bottom of the screen…
To sum up, please, can someone create a very simple and lite rom (6.5.5 based), with no extra applications, no extra visual additions, only the minimum required applications (the less the better) and that it can be fast and stable?
Kind regards,
Jardan
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Try one of these:
kwbr
Dutty
Energy Reference
Kumar's Lite version

jardan said:
Dear developers,
I would kindly ask if someone can create a very simple rom for me. I tried a lot of roms and most of them were great, fast and stable, but my problem is that I do not use a lot of the applications installed. For example, I do not use twitter, or TCMP or Wifi monster etc, I prefer the simple windows file explorer than total commander etc.
I would like a rom, close to stock version, that will be fast and stable and will have only the minimum required applications. I like sense but I don’t need cookie’s home application, I can install it myself if I get bored of the standard sense. The main use of the device, is as a phone, music player, camera, video (I use the paid version of Core Media player) and office use.
I tried Carnage HD2 lite beta, but it lacks of sense and the start menu and x button on the bottom of the screen…
To sum up, please, can someone create a very simple and lite rom (6.5.5 based), with no extra applications, no extra visual additions, only the minimum required applications (the less the better) and that it can be fast and stable?
Kind regards,
Jardan
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You just described my own personal ROM...
WM23142, with stock Sense...

thank you for you replies, I will try the above mentioned roms, the Energy reference is waiting for me at home (I am at work now). I think duttys rom has more applications, at least I cannot find in the thread the list of the included apps, but I will try it just for the shake of it..
@kristofpetho, which one is your rom?
thanks

Or try Artemis
Good luck

kristofpetho said:
You just described my own personal ROM...
WM23142, with stock Sense...
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Hey kristofpetho
Good to see you on the HD2 side!
When you say "personal ROM" does that mean I can have it?

beanmachine said:
Or try Artemis
Good luck
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I tried Artemis, too many things inside. The goal is to have as less application as possible.
Scabes24 said:
Hey kristofpetho
Good to see you on the HD2 side!
When you say "personal ROM" does that mean I can have it?
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Yes, can you share it?

If you want his roms you can just search all threads started by him perhaps...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?do=finduser&u=1795993&starteronly=1
Grtz,
Prille

Scabes24 said:
Hey kristofpetho
Good to see you on the HD2 side!
When you say "personal ROM" does that mean I can have it?
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Yeah I turned...
The HD2 is such a nice device...
And I will publish it, when I have fine-tuned it to my taste... But the overall feel will be like that of my Topaz Avatar ROM...
@all: Try ljankok's Cheetah Pro HERE. Its superb!

Prille said:
If you want his roms you can just search all threads started by him perhaps...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?do=finduser&u=1795993&starteronly=1
Grtz,
Prille
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Did you? Because if you had done it you would have seen that there are no HD2 roms by him. I do my research before I start asking questions.
Regards

Try this, they are the fastest ROMs. At least I think so. You'll get about 280MB of free storage.
Use HSPL 2.08 and Radio 2.15
http://www.vbnfiles.com/xda/fadzy/ROMS/

wardh said:
Try this, they are the fastest ROMs. At least I think so. You'll get about 280MB of free storage.
Use HSPL 2.08 and Radio 2.15
http://www.vbnfiles.com/xda/fadzy/ROMS/
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Cheers mate, I think that is what I was looking for. I had tried the cleanex ozrom but it wasn't as clean as this one. I will also wait for Kristofpetho's rom.
thanks again