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Can you post your usage and your battery life ?
Just as DUKE09 posted in the past in the Elf forum, I'm reporting the information needed to understand our usage:
- Things that you made with touch (gaming, video,gsm, music etc.) + how long? (hour plz)
- Whether if you switch off your touch at nights or not?
- Fully discharge and charge ?
- Total time to reach at zero level ? (touch turns itself off)
- Settings for HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Resuming\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\Default
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Suspend\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\Default
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Unattended\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\Default
- Background applications
- Band (GSM or 3g)
- BT ON or Off
Mine are:
- No gaming no video or media, 1h30min phone call per day, 5 sms, plus Active sync via BT
- Charged during the night
- No full Discharge
- Dunno when it will be completly discharged (i need it for work)
- Registry settings all three configured with Default = 3 (my BT headset never disconnects even if the dual is in standby), I've played a little bit with those parameters and i found that with Default = 4 my battery drains really fast.
- Sometimes I use PocketCM and FullScreenKeyboard, both in background
- Disabled 3g, via Band menu in the Phone Settings (setting Band to GSM) and HKLM\Software\OEM\UMTS\OpMode configured to 1.
- BT always on
With those settings at the end of the day my Dual is at 60-65%
Please post your comments here !
Thanks in advance,
Raid.
You certainly doing better then me! my Dual at the end of a working day is at measly 30-40% but then again I do have it on set 3g all day, listen to about 90 min of music via bluetooth headset and surf the web for about an hour as have unlimited data plan with 3
Hhmmm!!! I going to try your power management reg tweak, I'll let you know if it makes any difference, if does nice find Raid!!
Fully charge in the morning, turn on Bluetooth 24 hours, MSN for 2 hours using 3.5G, Web browsing using 3.5G half an hour, talk on phone average of 15 mins at the end of date left 30 percent.
@gfreek
I think that the default setting is "3" for all power parameters.
I've modified those to "4" due to random disconnects of my old Nokia BT Headset (maybe is not compatible). But then I've found that the problem was the BT headset and not the Dual, and I've switched back to "3" due to an heavy battery drain. I dunno if your ROM has "3" by default.
Looking at the first two posts I think that using the Dual in a "normal way" for that kind of device, we have to charge it at the end of the day....no chances...
Has the Touch Elf a better battery life ?
Regards,
Raid.
I have Qtek 8500, Qtek S200, HTC 710, HTC Touch Dual ... all Device have simulare batterie drain!! I think ... HTC Touch Elf too. Only resone why i think Touch Elf is in the moment batterie friendlyer ... you can install a CPU Scaler to save your batterie. I use all Device in the always online mode (need Exchange Sync or Blackberry ... both are simulare in Batterie drain!)
Hi raid, I can confirm my dual default for all three was set to 4, I've now set it 3 like yours, let see if makes a difference on mine.
raid said:
@gfreek
I think that the default setting is "3" for all power parameters.
I've modified those to "4" due to random disconnects of my old Nokia BT Headset (maybe is not compatible). But then I've found that the problem was the BT headset and not the Dual, and I've switched back to "3" due to an heavy battery drain. I dunno if your ROM has "3" by default.
Looking at the first two posts I think that using the Dual in a "normal way" for that kind of device, we have to charge it at the end of the day....no chances...
Has the Touch Elf a better battery life ?
Regards,
Raid.
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Hi raid, I can confirm my dual default for all three was set to 4, I've now set it 3 like yours, let see if makes a difference on mine.
Ok gfreek ! I'm waiting for the results !
ok raid here's my findings with this tweak:
BEFORE:
Battery Level after a working day = 30-40%
(based on the below settings/usage)
AFTER:
Battery Level after a working day = 50-55%
(based on the below settings/usage)
Settings/Usage:
Band - 3G
Web - 1 hour day
Music via BT Headsets - 90min
Calls - about 20-30min
So as you can see raid this little reg tweak does have an overall effect on battery level! Just curious raid did you try setting yours to 2 or 1 on these registry? did they any more difference? or should I just stick to 3.
those registry settings, what are they doing?!
Did you guys notice any instability afterwards?
I didn't try to set them to 1 or 2.
Referring to this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273990&highlight=keep+wifi+standby+bluetooth+Power
I think that with 1 or 2 we get more power consumption...
The strange thing is that with "4" BT should be off during the standby, instead we just get battery drains faster !!
Maybe the power states are different on the Dual ?
Many thanks gfreek !!
Please, if any other can confirm what we have tested, it will be much appreciated...
Settings work for me. Went from 25% left end of day to 60% left.
Also this helps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305332
Anyone more tips ?
Admins, I think this thread should be a sticky !!!
Please ANY DUAL OWNER, try those power registry settings !!!
Just to have more feedbacks....
Many thanks to gfreek and steven !
Another Reg tweak to increase battery life even further!!
Hi guys I have tested this and found a nice little increase in battery life on top of the reg tweak Raid posted here! You're likely get 10-15% increase on battery life with this tweak, it may not seem like much but a power user like me, it does make a difference
With the combination of these reg tweaks settings at the end of a working day my Dual is at 65%-70% before it was 30% - 40%
Settings/Usage:
Band - 3G
Web - 1 hour day
Music via BT Headsets - 90min
Calls - about 20-30min
Please post your comments here!
Navigate to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms
Default value type and value are
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:1
Change to
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0
Navigate to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\PPTP1\Parms
Default value type and value are
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:1
Change to
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0
Navigate to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\L2TP1\Parms
Default value type and value are
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:1
Change to
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0
P.S. Raid Since I flashed to HTCAsia WEE ROM, to maintain long battery life, I have had to revert to 4 instead of 3 (that I had on my previous Orange UK ROM) on the the following reg tweaks you posted on this thread: -
Settings for HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\ Resuming\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\Default
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\ Suspend\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\Default
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\ Unattended\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\Default
Do you know what is PPTP or L2TP???
Why you think, it can helps to save Power?
PPTP and L2TP is a Tunneling Protokol! You only need them, if you open a VPN Tunnel to a Privat Network. If you change settings and you doesnt use the buildin VPN functions, you will save what??? Nothing ... yes ... nothing is the only right answer!
If some guys want realy check his power consuming ... please use a Amp Meter and a Datalocker for long time messurments!
Next ... if some guys change here Radio Rom ... possible they save Power! What Radio Version was in his Dual???
This are importent questions!
Sorry for my bad English but this tweaks are pure nonsens!!!
NetrunnerAT said:
Do you know what is PPTP or L2TP???
Why you think, it can helps to save Power?
PPTP and L2TP is a Tunneling Protokol! You only need them, if you open a VPN Tunnel to a Privat Network. If you change settings and you doesnt use the buildin VPN functions, you will save what??? Nothing ... yes ... nothing is the only right answer!
If some guys want realy check his power consuming ... please use a Amp Meter and a Datalocker for long time messurments!
Next ... if some guys change here Radio Rom ... possible they save Power! What Radio Version was in his Dual???
This are importent questions!
Sorry for my bad English but this tweaks are pure nonsens!!!
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LOL! NetrunnerAT I can see you are very opinionated person! FYI yes I do know what PPTP and L2TP are!!!! what part you don't understand when I said I TESTED these tweaks, in fact tested it over week with and without the reg tweak just to make sure they really did make a difference, I know on paper these tweak should not make a blind bit of difference but they did!! maybe I've got a very special dual MY PRECIOUS!!!!
Realy???
Very Strange ... for Windows CE 5.0 you can buy a Technical Document for the Registry Hives. They are simulare. It say ... if you Open a Tunnel, you can disable the Powermanagement. The reason is easy ... VPN Tunnel need a up and running connection. If your device close it, for saveing power ... the session keys are invalid. New IKE exchange is needed!! A normal Handy doesnt use it!
Italian touch dual:
before:30% at the end of the day
after:40% at the end of the day(i obviously tried the mod for several days to avoid casual alteration due to a different usage of the device)
1hr phone
.5hr web
some casual gaming/mp3/movie
2g/3g auto select, so it eventually switch when there's 3g coverage
usually recharge when batttery approximately goes to 10%
BT always on
now, could anyone kindly explain what these registry mods really do??
i haven't noticed any issue till now.
same for me
i have abt 10% more battery.
i realized, that bluetooth really sucks battery. If I disable bt i have 60-70% left at the end of the day. with bluetooth 30-40%.
butr isn't that a shame? a new battery which I have to charge every day? what do i have to do in 6 month? charge it three times a day?
arjov said:
now, could anyone kindly explain what these registry mods really do??
i haven't noticed any issue till now.
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what keys you mean?
The BT Settings change the Working Profile of the BT Stack.
hi, all just thought i would start a thread asking people what bugs they notice on their windows mobile 6.5 TG01 devices.
I will start of with main problems
1. Radio stack- call quality eratic
2. In call volume low
3. Speaker volume low ringtones= noticed sms tone lower than call ringtone
strange
4. 20% battery restriction come on toshiba were not 2 year olds
5. screen switching of seconds into call>hitting power button to resume
screen
and end call>what the f****k!!!!
6. ringtones on sd card out of folder>can we select them when IN a sd
ringtone folder>i thought they fixed this years ago!!
7. GPS apparently disconnecting after 10-20mins
8. rom in general unstable
any other bugs guys then just get listing
serialkillazzs said:
hi, all just thought i would start a thread asking people what bugs they notice on their windows mobile 6.5 TG01 devices.
I will start of with main problems
1. Radio stack- call quality eratic
2. In call volume low
3. Speaker volume low ringtones= noticed sms tone lower than call ringtone
strange
4. 20% battery restriction come on toshiba were not 2 year olds
5. screen switching of seconds into call>hitting power button to resume
screen
and end call>what the f****k!!!!
6. ringtones on sd card out of folder>can we select them when IN a sd
ringtone folder>i thought they fixed this years ago!!
7. GPS apparently disconnecting after 10-20mins
8. rom in general unstable
any other bugs guys then just get listing
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Don't forget we need to find a unlocking metod.
I have my still locked because if I unlock by code. There no more interest in ulocking..
But about other bugs I don't know realy. My TG01 work purfect may be has some little bug who we can solve with time. General I think is just a dizain of the software.
bojan6 said:
Don't forget we need to find a unlocking metod.
I have my still locked because if I unlock by code. There no more interest in ulocking..
But about other bugs I don't know realy. My TG01 work purfect may be has some little bug who we can solve with time. General I think is just a dizain of the software.
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if you are looking phone sim unlocked then check out TG01 forum on modaco for details. £10 to unlock.
if you are waiting for sim unlocking software then i think you are in for a long wait!!
another bug
can we have an accurate battery life indicator,
odd that you can restart device and get extra 10% battery life. which is quite fun when the rom locks you out at 20% battery life on wifi
also quite odd that the 20% battery lock suspends wifi/camera, BUT not music and videos. i would have thought having the screen on with backlight video on, and speaker running would drain battery more. what idiot thought of that!!
for
2 and 3 try srswow 3 cab over at modaco
4. makes me want to scream
5. you just have to double tap screen to activate screen a little message comes up and tells you (but you would have phone on your ear when message comes up) stupid toshiba.
6. not that i know of i just edit them in mp3 prog and put them in tone folder
again annoying but its that or there stupid tones
8. hopefully the cooked rom happens
mine are
10. phone randomly turning of
11. camera takes ages to start
12. "forgets" wep key all the time
i wont be getting a toshiba again il get the eventual hd3 when contract runs out in 1.6 years.
useyourfist said:
for
2 and 3 try srswow 3 cab over at modaco
4. makes me want to scream
5. you just have to double tap screen to activate screen a little message comes up and tells you (but you would have phone on your ear when message comes up) stupid toshiba.
6. not that i know of i just edit them in mp3 prog and put them in tone folder
again annoying but its that or there stupid tones
8. hopefully the cooked rom happens
mine are
10. phone randomly turning of
11. camera takes ages to start
12. "forgets" wep key all the time
i wont be getting a toshiba again il get the eventual hd3 when contract runs out in 1.6 years.
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tried those srs wow cabs and all are generally unstable!!
camera one is a bug tho
9.when taking video it seems very dark, light level needs a boost, aperature or somethin
proper video settings would work well, we have no white balance, colour etc nothing!!
serialkillazzs said:
if you are looking phone sim unlocked then check out TG01 forum on modaco for details. £10 to unlock.
if you are waiting for sim unlocking software then i think you are in for a long wait!!
another bug
can we have an accurate battery life indicator,
odd that you can restart device and get extra 10% battery life. which is quite fun when the rom locks you out at 20% battery life on wifi
also quite odd that the 20% battery lock suspends wifi/camera, BUT not music and videos. i would have thought having the screen on with backlight video on, and speaker running would drain battery more. what idiot thought of that!!
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I don't wait any softwre just doing by my self
serialkillazzs said:
hi, all just thought i would start a thread asking people what bugs they notice on their windows mobile 6.5 TG01 devices.
I will start of with main problems
1. Radio stack- call quality eratic
2. In call volume low
3. Speaker volume low ringtones= noticed sms tone lower than call ringtone
strange
4. 20% battery restriction come on toshiba were not 2 year olds
5. screen switching of seconds into call>hitting power button to resume
screen
and end call>what the f****k!!!!
6. ringtones on sd card out of folder>can we select them when IN a sd
ringtone folder>i thought they fixed this years ago!!
7. GPS apparently disconnecting after 10-20mins
8. rom in general unstable
any other bugs guys then just get listing
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Are you lookign for bugs that we all have? Or just wanting to compare people's experiences?
1 - totally - if nothing else can be fixed... fix this
2 & 3 - 'fixed' by WOW SRS HD ?? (certainly my volumes are acceptable, i did change somethign in the reg tho...)
4 - yeah & how does the BT stay on past the 20% (if it was already in operation) but the wifi doesn't
5 - this really should be turn off-able.. prob a coincidence, but when the screen switches off the call qual seems to drop..
6 - never tried this
7 - nor this (i use g maps for on the fly navigation)
8 - mine's ok....
9 - never had this... had some probs coming off standby b4 i installed SRS HD properly..
10 - 2 seconds for me - is that slow??
11 - not had this on any of the 3 wlan i connect too..
12 - never used video
13 - totally my work phone is hd2 & the camera on that is amazing, TG camera is embrassing
can i add
14 - i want to reject a call with sms msg
15 - i want to be rid all the orange ****e that the phone is stuck with, orange plus & boot up screen etc
16 - i want a sys tray icon for everything, don't share 2 'G' symbols between GPS/2G/3G/HSDPA/GPRS etc
17 - strange bug, my file browser (ie change today screen click "browse" NOT file explorer) can't see my mem card
18 - win logo some times displayed on lock screen, sometimes not - tapping it does nothing !!
i'm sure i can think of more...
cheers
Adam
- random self-restart/reboot are what piss me the most off (specially when you are making a call!).
jeams said:
- random self-restart/reboot are what piss me the most off (specially when you are making a call!).
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I had many of them when I was trying HTC sense (2.1 or 2.5), now with the default WM6.5 screen I do not get any more random reboots.
i use spb mobile shell...
buggin issue
I've noticed my tg01 is so much more stable since I turned of the auto orientation, it used to freeze 3 to 5 times a day, now I hav'nt had to soft reset it for weeks.
I am looking forward to see what development the XDA people can do to get this amazing piece of hardware running smooth, fast & sweet.
Hi
Your probleme at point 10 (phone randomly turning of) it's caused by SRS_WOW( this is still not a stable and compatible verzion for our TG01) . You must uninstall it and no more randomly turning off happends. I had that probleme too.
sorry but i don't have srs_wow and my tg01 (all of them actualy : waranty returns) had this shut down/reboot problems regardless the os (i.e wm6.1 or wm6.5) and regardless softwares installed on it.
Must say I had a lot of problems with SRS WOW being installed or which I lead to believe was the problem. My phone would restart itself every so often but it also didn't like going to sleep it just crashed and stayed in that state until you soft reset it.
I did a hard reset and installed the software that I found useful to myself, didn't install anything like the graphic driver update or SRS WOW and its working flawlessly apart from the call quality issues.
In regards to the above post if you've had a few tg01's and they are all randomly reseting its not a hardware fault with the phone, I'm sure it'll be software which is causing these problems.
I think the first and foremost problem that'll hopefully be fixed by the rom devs is the call quality issues since after all that's why people have a phone, to make phone calls.
Finger Keyboard from xda: after some time keyboard doesnt pop up (especially if phone was standby for a while), switching to other keyboard not possible -> soft reset
Screen Bug: unlock screen in landscape mode bugs, after sliding nothing happens, only if i hit the area where ok button would be..
->not that bad cause i use S2u2
Standby Bug: pressing button to switch on again, screen only blinks for short time..need several tries to get the screen permanently on,to slide..
storage bug: using some programs except the ram of tg01 bugging, than hitting standby button short-- whoops phone goes off and restarts..
bugmode #2: if i take battery out because of extreme bugging after soft reset, sometimes restarts and then there is only a text saying "ok", i can't touch and need to restart again..
i noticed a bug with toshibas keyboard
turning caps look on the delete button doesnt work!!
maybe a hard reset might fix this, but im not willing to reset again
has cook got a test device or does he not want to unlock it now!
Too much bug for this phone :
- Poor memory management, the unit must be reset periodically to free memory or use cleanram utility.
- The device have many difficulties to switch the band from HPDSA to GSM when network is poor. I must regulary change the band manually to keep data use.
- Bad management of motion sensor and light sensor.
- Call volume is sometimes low my contact don't heard me
Some improvement would be apreciated
voluntary e
yeah low cal volume a pain.just as well we have sms texts
hi guys and dolls first of all i would like to say hello i am now an owner of a x10 in UK Vodafone.
i am on my 3 rd day of use and wow the battery does go fast any how does get better after a few charges.
i use task killer as a way to keep on top software running in back ground does improve battery usage.
here is a code i found to test true bat usage and phone history
Battery info (punch in *#*#4636#*#* in the phone dialer),
hope to here from you guys soon maybe with android 2.2 upgrade.
download "spare parts" off the market... you can see all of this through that.
hi guys !I have installed "android desire" ROM and when I tried to make my first pictures to testing the camera ,I saw that my flashlight is not working and the message: "unable use flash due to cold weather"!
..I have tested this ,and when outside are less than 0' celsius,the phone update the weather and don't let me to use it,even if I am at home when are 22' celsius!
Please help me....is a general problem or it is a way to solve it?
sorry for my bad english!
no one knows?
Move to a tropical climate. J/K
yes but I need to stop google location because if I let him active,doesn't work even if I change climate....and in all cases,if I change climate,the weather widget will be unusuable!...sorry for bad english....any sugestions?
Funniest bug I've read about in a long time. I think you're using the old ROM cotulla released together with Magldr, and I don't think it has been updated ever since which means bugs like those couldn't have gotten ironed out.
Just try another one and it should be fixed, if not, follow mattfmartin's advice. Every excuse is a valid one to move to an exotic climate!
In case the language barrier is too high, here is a
Short version:
Try another ROM.
no!I use "[20 JAN][ZIP] RAFDROID HD 2.3 [DATA2EXT][Kern:MDJ 10.3][RMNET][FASTEST FULL DESHD!] " ,and every week I update my rom,because I didn't find yet the best nand android!I get crazy when I go to a party with a phone of 300 euro and I can't make a picture because outside is cold and I am in t-shirt inside!I feel like slam it all the walls! And theese days I realized that it have moment's that even if outside are -7 ' celsius,it works!sometimes work,sometimes not!I wait desperate the summer ,to escape from this problem!Anyone know about this problem?I am the only one who have this bug?thank you for your answers!
This really leaves me puzzled....
Change your phone language to English, and then write down the exact error message. If you use the native English text, you have more chance of having success with Google.
I'm really sorry, but that's all the help I can give you.
The phone is set to native english,and the message is exactly:"unable to use flash due to cold weather"... even if I use camera flash to make a picture or torch to use flashlight!I tried to make a google search but I've find a single post with a few answers but not on subject!thank you very much for your interest !! I have such a sensible phone... idiot...
Weird stuff. Have you had this issue in WinMo too?
no!only with android!
I guess with -20 It will be very hard to have that phone out in the open.
(Brasov this time of year, will hit that temp for sure).
Be aware that you are using something that depends on a certain safe 'usage' temperature.
I'd rather keep that phone in my pocket when it gets THAT cold
Sorry buddy, I have no solution for this, as this is something i've never heard of.
If disabling "my location" makes it work, what's wrong with just turning that off for good?
Settings, Location & security, and turn off "Use wireless networks" and "Use GSP satellites".
I personally never have either of them enabled because of the fact they're such big battery drains.
I will try when I will see next time the message and I will tell you if my problem is solved!thank you very much again and I hope that this will solve the problem!
hello again!after days and weeks of hard work(try all android versions,radio,hspl and others),I finally found the issue: A few monts ago,I bought 2 battery from ebay(chineeze),and I have charged them with an external charger (not connected to phone),and thoose battery were the problem!Yesterday it passed in my mind,and I tried to change the chineze battery with the original and with every try,I saw that the problemm was solved!Thank you again and a tip for you: do not buy Chinese batteries on ebay!
change the battery .. its not getting enough power
I solved the problem by uninstalling "quick settings" app. I used flash battery from quick settings once and that probably caused the problem.
cobraje said:
I solved the problem by uninstalling "quick settings" app. I used flash battery from quick settings once and that probably caused the problem.
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The 'problem' isn't caused by any apps or bugs, its a fail-safe feature. Cold weather affects battery performance, and using flash is battery intensive. Once the phone gets to a certain temp (zero degrees celsius I believe) the phone will disable flash. Confirmed for desire builds.
Proof (Page 151)
check pin battery connector (center pin not connect to battery) sofware check battery cold(-11 C ) and overheat
kobjang said:
check pin battery connector (center pin not connect to battery) sofware check battery cold(-11 C ) and overheat
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I got this problem since yesterday and the reason for the message is indeed because the center battery pin was bent.
Check that if you get the Unable to use flash due to cold weather message!
- Katalin
katalin_2003 said:
I got this problem since yesterday and the reason for the message is indeed because the center battery pin was bent.
Check that if you get the Unable to use flash due to cold weather message!
- Katalin
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As unusual as that solution sounds, it actually was exactly my problem. Flash working 100% fine now.
Thanks so much, Katalin! :laugh:
Hello guys and girls!
Id like to know, if someone can help me with my little but annoying problem:
When I go into "settings - phone - batterydrain - on the graph" it sometines shows a long and massive blue bar on "Active".
Ive already uninstalled WhatsApp, but it still appears some times and sucks like 25% battery in 1 1/2 hour.
Does anyone know what causes this? With advanced task manager I cant see anything thats running in the background.
Thx
BeeJay
P.S: Ive got the German TyphooN CM7 3.2.6 ROM installed. There it is called "Über das Telefon - Akkuverbrauch - auf den Graphen - Aktiv"