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Sooo... What's next after the Epic?

I've seen a lot of talk about new phones but is there a successor to the Samsung Epic?
I talked my wife into buying the Epic as well and we love them but we always keep our eyes on that 2 year mark (which is coming up this Summer)... wondering if we are going to stay in place with the Epics or save for something else.
We are particularly fond of the physical keyboard... don't want to jump to a phone without one.
Love reading all the great threads on here... keep up the great info.
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The EVO 3D seems to have caught the Epic community's eye. The Epic can do nearly everything that the new EVO can, except the Evo has a better CPU (dual core), TV out (hdmi), and it's 3D option.

No top tier phones with keyboards have been announced yet by Sprint. Samsung has created the "Galaxy S II" which could be used to produce an Epic 2 but that is between Samsung & Sprint to decide.
I believe Sprint is releasing a windows phone 7 HTC device with keyboard, but I'm not interested in wp7.
How are you hitting the 2-year mark when the Epic was released last summer?

Dual 1.2ghz processors
1GB DDR2 ram
NFC
8mp camera
2mp FFC
1080p recording & playback
4.3" display
SAMoled + technology
hdmi out
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Gingerbread 2.4
replaceable 1750mah battery
Thinest cellphone ever made
yeah.... I'm waiting on the Galaxy S2 myself.

9kracing said:
Dual 1.2ghz processors
1GB DDR2 ram
NFC
8mp camera
2mp FFC
1080p recording & playback
4.3" display
SAMoled + technology
hdmi out
removable memory
Gingerbread 2.4
Ice Cream 3.1
replaceable 1750mah battery
Thinest cellphone ever made
yeah.... I'm waiting on the Galaxy S2 myself.
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FTFY
Wait...this is Samsung, God forbid they put out an up to date phone.
I know it hasn't been released yet. But I/O is here in what 4 days?
I theorize 3.1 because it will be a merge of the Tablet and Phone branches of Android, and I doubt they would down grade the version number of the tablets. so the number would have to be >=3.1

Yeah the 4.3" screen may be a problem for those looking for an Epic 2. I think it would be absolutely huge. I personally am going for a non-kb device next. After all, the KB on the epic was pretty useless with all the skipped characters which forced me to become comfortable with swype.
I'd be all over the Evo 3D if it had an amoled display. Any phone w/o amoled will need to have very strong contrast levels with very low black's otherwise it will annoy the heck out of my to pay for a phone upgrade with a lesser quality screen.
I figure I'll be on the Epic until November 2012 since they removed the 1 year upgrade from my plan. At that point I may just keep it and flash over to Boost mobile for the uber cheap monthly rates.

I bought my Epic outright... used... I jumped into Sprint service with a blackberry curve... bought an EVO and Epic cash/used... but in excellent shape.

I've got another year before I start to look,everything else will be "obsolete"
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Gotta have the keyboard for me otherwise it isn't a smartphone to me. I have tried and tried swype but for those messages more than 2 or 3 words I can not stand it.

I'd rather have super thin with no keyboard than slightly fat and a mostly working keyboard
And I would like to have latest version of touch wiz
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digiblur said:
Gotta have the keyboard for me otherwise it isn't a smartphone to me. I have tried and tried swype but for those messages more than 2 or 3 words I can not stand it.
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Have you tried voice-to-text? Why type when you can talk....

9kracing said:
Have you tried voice-to-text? Why type when you can talk....
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Voice-to-text is fine if you're not in a meeting or something...
"this guy is so boring, I hope he stops droning on and on soon... oh, crap, he can hear me"

I was looking at the evo3d but i am going to wait till the phone is launched first only because i think the phone is going to be locked down alot and i think root will take some time. I will probably be looking at the gsII. I want my amoled screen and 4.3 is an awesome screen size for me. Plus sammy has done pretty good about not locking phones down so far.

I've got till early Fall of next year before I start looking at amazing phones again (just think what they'll have then...lol)
BUT, if I were looking for a new phone, the EVO 3D is definitely the way to go.

In the evo forums over at android forums an HTC insider says the evo 3d will ship with no bootloader lock, they wanna make it dev friendly
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According to my local corp store, if i replace my phone 2 more times (already done 3 exchanges) then i will be able to switch to different device which if i have to exchange this epic 2 more times i am jumping ship to htc and if evo 3d is out then i am going to it.
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Oh man I hope you are right. If so I'm getting it then. Thanks for the information bro
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In the evo forums over at android forums an HTC insider says the evo 3d will ship with no bootloader lock, they wanna make it dev friendly
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Sent From My Evo Killer!!!

Even I am waiting for the Galaxy 2. It's gonna rock!

I'm going to be in heaven if we get Gingerbread or even 2.4 Ice Cream on another version of the Epic 4G with a keyboard and that dual-core 1.2mhz processor, S-AMOLED + display...AND I'm hoping sprint will keep the keyboard on their version...cuase idk where id be for all the long ass E-mails and text messages without some physical buttons to press....and ohh my what the developers would do once they get their hands on that 1.2 dual core...maybe wishfull thinking but can anybody else say 2.0Ghz Overclock....I've already seen the EVO SHIFT 4G OC'D to 1.8 (which I'm thinking about jumping ship towards to be honest if we don't get something new)...I think that would be a realistic expectation.
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The Evo 3D sounds cool, and the 3D option is interesting. If anyone has see the Ninteno 3DS, I assume it is similar to the technology the evo will have. The 3DS is cool but if that's what the evo screen looks like in 3D, HTC has some work to do.
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[Q] HTC Evo 4g+ to Sprint? What to pick now?

HTC officially announced the Evo 4g+. http://www.htc.com/kr/product/evo4g+/overview.html
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/22/is-this-the-htc-evo-4g-aka-kingdom/
This phone is rumored to go to sprint. Its pretty much the evo3d minus the 3d I guess. 4.3" screen 1 gb ram.
My question is, what would you pick out of the three, Galaxy S II, HTC Evo 4G+, or HTC Evo3D?
Ps. I tried my best to search through the forums looking for a poll like this but the search function was down so I had to do it manually. Sorry if I repeat someone else.

Samsung Epic 4G
A Galaxy S Series Phone

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Samsung Epic 4G
A Galaxy S Series Phone
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SG2.........

marcusant said:
Samsung Epic 4G
A Galaxy S Series Phone
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+1000000 for sure a galaxy s line.
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marcusant said:
Samsung Epic 4G
A Galaxy S Series Phone
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very respectable answer. I may be doing the same thing, who knows!

I'm waiting for the GS2.
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I need keyboard phones so Epic is still my choice..
But if I had to choose out of those 3 it would definitely be Galaxy S II! I mean lets rehash..whats the difference between Evo 4g+ and Evo3d? the 3d and the camera? so end of the day SGS 2 still wipes the floor with both of them...

If Samsung is gonna continue being a good little boy and continuing the same trend that they have going with the original Galaxy S line (a phone for all major carriers with minor differences), then I'm holding out for an SGSII with slide-out keyboard. If they decide not to make one, then screw Samsung I'm going with something else. Dual Core 1gb RAM Epic 2 anyone? And please oh please Samsung wait for Kal-El before popping a Tegra in it. That would make my dreams come true
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I love my Galaxy S. After having this, I don't think I want anything else.
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Need a physical keyboard.

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HTC officially announced the Evo 4g+. http://www.htc.com/kr/product/evo4g+/overview.html
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/22/is-this-the-htc-evo-4g-aka-kingdom/
This phone is rumored to go to sprint. Its pretty much the evo3d minus the 3d I guess. 4.3" screen 1 gb ram.
My question is, what would you pick out of the three, Galaxy S II, HTC Evo 4G+, or HTC Evo3D?
Ps. I tried my best to search through the forums looking for a poll like this but the search function was down so I had to do it manually. Sorry if I repeat someone else.
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sorry to bust ur bubble but that's just a korean version of the evo 3d... read the engadget review

apatcas said:
sorry to bust ur bubble but that's just a korean version of the evo 3d... read the engadget review
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I am aware. But there is an american version supposedly coming to sprint, and the specs are going to be the same or similar to the korean version. Just like most european/asian --> US conversions.

yup, saw the engadget post also...i really like how the evo 3d looks, just not sure about the performance (based on the engadget review) and i really dont care bout the whole 3d thing...i would probably consider this than the evo 3d based on the higher mp cam...unless sgs2 come out round the same time...
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i'm waiting for Galaxy S3, should be qHD Super AMOLED³, 2nd gen Dual Core and beastly GPU, hopefully with a qwerty kb.

faceless said:
i'm waiting for Galaxy S3, should be qHD Super AMOLED³, 2nd gen Dual Core and beastly GPU, hopefully with a qwerty kb.
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+1, Cept maybe no keyboard for me
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I'm an htc man myself ever since I traded my hd2 for an epic 4g I been missing it but no onw can beat the super amoled screen so I'm caught up in the middle... if htc starts puting amoled's on their phonees then I'm htc 100%

After having lots of touch screen problems with my epics (a few didn't make it. lol). I would have to say the 4g+. I really like the sensation 4g because there is no 3d. Bring that to Sprint and I'm sold, and unlock the bootloader of course. HTC phones are better built I think. My opinion don't flame. Also the GPS works flawless (stock), and touch screen works awesome. Better than anything I've experience on the Epic.

drivenapollo said:
After having lots of touch screen problems with my epics (a few didn't make it. lol). I would have to say the 4g+. I really like the sensation 4g because there is no 3d. Bring that to Sprint and I'm sold, and unlock the bootloader of course. HTC phones are better built I think. My opinion don't flame. Also the GPS works flawless (stock), and touch screen works awesome. Better than anything I've experience on the Epic.
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What about the washed out, frail screen and the crap-ass camera? Yay, I can view a mediocre version of everything at the same speed!!! Party!
I won't give up on great hardware so some weak-ass devs can more easily create a billion useless Roms. Sorry to them if our guys get it right the first time. They make like a hundred flavors of Kool-Aide and I don't buy any of them. I don't understand why people think that more plentiful Roms=better product. That's what we call false equivalencies.

Get an Echo ....
But really GS2 ... It's only decent Dual core i see this year for Sprint.

sprint phasing out the EVO 4g!

read this: http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-saying-sayonara-several-android-smartphones
my stomach dropped when i read it, ss i have just bought my evo in june.

Sounds about right to me. It's been just over a year. That is about the current life cycle of most smart phones.
No worries though, the DEV will continue for quite a while still.

I'm quite content on my Evo...there will always be community based DEV for the evo long after its phased out...Some of us cant afford to get new phones each contract period...I plan to keep mine as long as I can.

There are still people developing for the Hero, I'm not even a little bit worried about my Evo

Maybe HTC will give us an unlock in October as a farewell gift. I personally don't need it, but it would be a nice gift for those who got it pre-installed.

I, too, just bought mine in June. But I'm not even remotely worried. Even on stock, I'm loving this phone. I could definitely use the better battery life once root hits the 2.3, though.

Yah that's only because there'll be an iPhone in September.
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I'm not really surprised they are phasing the phone out, it was only a matter of time before faster phones hit the market. That however does not mean the all dev work will stop on it over night. This phone is still the OG & I'm proud to rock it!

I have high hope for sprint I will be expecting them to improve there 3g and 4g coverage and the new phones.
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I gotnmy evo in December and even though I can upgrade to the evo 3D soon I'm staying with my evo

DJ1395 said:
I gotnmy evo in December and even though I can upgrade to the evo 3D soon I'm staying with my evo
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Oh please.. You're going to get an iPhone by then.. Lol
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Jason Black said:
Oh please.. You're going to get an iPhone by then.. Lol
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I would too if comes out.
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I am going to stick with the evo until sprint makes the jump from wimax to lte. Hopefully they wont be able to support both networks and give us some sort of incentive to switch. Wishful thinking probably- with the amount of wimax phones they currently have in the wild.

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I would too if comes out.
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A top dollar phone that will get stomped by the S2, Photon, 3D and 4G+ but comes with an Apple logo and manufactured by a company that wants Android to simply cease to be, I'll pass.

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A top dollar phone that will get stomped by the S2, Photon, 3D and 4G+ but comes with an Apple logo and manufactured by a company that wants Android to simply cease to be, I'll pass.
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I had iPhone before, getting an android. What I'm looking for a phone is long lasting battery life and more choices of games and bigger screen like my evo.
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Lokifish Marz said:
A top dollar phone that will get stomped by the S2, Photon, 3D and 4G+ but comes with an Apple logo and manufactured by a company that wants Android to simply cease to be, I'll pass.
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Stomped? Do you somehow got the iPhone 5 specs out of thin air?

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Stomped? Do you somehow got the iPhone 5 specs out of thin air?
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Logical progression would dictate A5 dual core ARM9 cpu clocked at 1Ghz, GPU most likely SGX543 or 544, 1gb DDR2. It's not hard to see where it fits in the hardware specs. The only advantage I see Apple would have is OS and app optimizations out of the box as they control the hardware design.

Lokifish Marz said:
Logical progression would dictate A5 dual core ARM9 cpu clocked at 1Ghz, GPU most likely SGX543 or 544, 1gb DDR2. It's not hard to see where it fits in the hardware specs. The only advantage I see Apple would have is OS and app optimizations out of the box as they control the hardware design.
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The A5 doesn't get stomped by any of those phones. Its likely that the GPU will be superior.
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I'm excited for the Galaxy S2. I'm hoping it's unlocked from the get go. Btw it just hit the FCC this morning!
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how did this get turned into an anti-apple thread? yes we all hate apple, but this is about sprint dropping our beloved evo!

Galaxy S Epic 4G 2 ???

Now....We all see the galaxy S2. Do y'all think we're going to see a new epic4g 2 in all its splender? Put down the Hardware specs you will like on the new device...
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I can guarantee there is an Epic 2 coming, but no date is known yet

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Now....We all see the galaxy S2. Do y'all think we're going to see a new epic4g 2 in all its splender? Put down the Hardware specs you will like on the new device...
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Seriously? There weren't already enough threads about this?
Besides the hardware will be the same as the Galaxy S 2.

063_XOBX said:
Seriously? There weren't already enough threads about this?
Besides the hardware will be the same as the Galaxy S 2.
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I thought it was single core

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I thought it was single core
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Samsung might not know much about customer relations, but they aren't idiots. The Moment replacement will be single core 2nd gen snapdragon and the Epic replacement will be Exynos

I know GSII will be dual core for Sprint, but according to Thisismynext, Epic successor w/ keyboard will have 1.2 ghz single-core, kinda like the Infuse. WDM (whosdaman and sprint employee) said so too.

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I know GSII will be dual core for Sprint, but according to Thisismynext, Epic successor w/ keyboard will have 1.2 ghz single-core, kinda like the Infuse. WDM (whosdaman and sprint employee) said so too.
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I've heard about those rumors, but they sound a bit ridiculous to me for a couple of reasons:
1. There is no benefit to releasing anything under the "Epic" name, it didn't sell that well, doesn't have name recognition and definitely is known for being super late to he updated.
2. Even if they were to release a single core phone from Samsung, the "Moment 3" or whatever they call it will already have filled the niche market of low-mid range tiered keyboard phones, there is no reason to have multiple competing phone with no real difference.

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I've heard about those rumors, but they sound a bit ridiculous to me for a couple of reasons:
1. There is no benefit to releasing anything under the "Epic" name, it didn't sell that well, doesn't have name recognition and definitely is known for being super late to he updated.
2. Even if they were to release a single core phone from Samsung, the "Moment 3" or whatever they call it will already have filled the niche market of low-mid range tiered keyboard phones, there is no reason to have multiple competing phone with no real difference.
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I never understood why it didn't sell well. It's the only Galaxy S phone in the American market to come out complete with FFC, camera flash, and a keyboard+ 4G as an added bonus over the i9000.
Out of the American models, we're the only ones that get to enjoy google talk with video chat.
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I never understood why it didn't sell well. It's the only Galaxy S phone in the American market to come out complete with FFC, camera flash, and a keyboard+ 4G as an added bonus over the i9000.
Out of the American models, we're the only ones that get to enjoy google talk with video chat.
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No marketing, lack of interest in a phone for 249.99 when the Evo was hyped to the max and selling for 199.99 and had accessories.

The D600 (aka Conquer) is coming soon as a replacement for the Transform, meaning it's a low (mid) end 4G slider with a full keyboard, but a 1ghz processor and a low(ish) res screen.
The Within is going to be the dual core high-end slim slab phone to compete with the E3D and Photon.
There's not really any room in between for anything that would replace the epic to be considered the EPIC 2, unless they want to have another GSII but with a keyboard, there's no reason Sprint/Samsung would make it.
If we get something replacing the EPIC, it would need to be something thinner, lighter, with a decent battery, better resolution display, and a faster processor for it to be considered a sequel, and would likely be released a while after the within (otherwise we would have seen some specs about it already.)
Also, consider that sprint doesn't usually use sequel naming, so rather than Epic 2, it would be called something different anyway. (There have been exceptions with LG, but samsung is not known for it.)

Also long as we get an sgs2 than I'm good...but if we do get a epic 2 than I want.......1.5 ghz dual core....1gb of ram....hdmi out....4-4.5" screen....android 4.0...3D cameras.... and ASOP
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My idea for epic 2 would be 4.2 inch super amoled plus 8 megapixel camera back & 2 megapixel in front a 1.3 dual core processer a 5 row slide out keybord that slides up at an angle so you could watch movie or get online slide up as in it would look like a mini laptop also I would take out smiley button & put one of those little blackberry scrolling balls on right side so when your using the keyboard with the screen slanted at angle you can use that scrolling ball like a mouse! That would be the the best phone out hands down tel me not matter in fact im about to write a letter to ceo of sprint & samsung with my idea & tell them you don't have to pay me for my idea but just give me the phone a month before anyone get it!
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Sprint says, the Epic 4g & EVO phones will be phased out, no longer available starting Oct-2011.
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possible new sprint phone with keyboard

I was talking to a friend of mine at the sprint store. He said that sprint and Samsung is going to release a new dual core processor android phone with keyboard (maybe like the at&t captivate glide). possible to replace the epic and possible by the end of the year. He said that the epic is still a good seller. When i saw the at&t captivate glide with 1GHz Nvidia Tegra 2 i wondered if that was the spec for the no show epic 2. If i get any more info i will post it.

Cool rumor.
/me waits for more info

Reminds me of a song:
I heard it from a friend whooooo heard it from a friend whooooo heard it from another that......

That'd be my next phone. Even though the carriers are slow with updates.
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Same size, four row keyboard instead of five, faster processor?
I'd wait for the phone after that, unless there is a spectacular app that it can run on ics or jb and that I can't run on my epic.

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Same size, four row keyboard instead of five, faster processor?
I'd wait for the phone after that, unless there is a spectacular app that it can run on ics or jb and that I can't run on my epic.
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Whaa same size and only a four row keyboard?... pass.
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Remember that rumor that started in 2010 where sprint said they would have 4g service. Just like that rumor all I can say is just wait for it
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that would be cool if it actually comes around
"I don't believe it - not for a minute" REO Speedwagon !!!

garyf said:
Same size, four row keyboard instead of five, faster processor?
I'd wait for the phone after that, unless there is a spectacular app that it can run on ics or jb and that I can't run on my epic.
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A Justin Bieber phone??? wtf??? lol

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A Justin Bieber phone??? wtf??? lol
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Why is justin beiber the first thing in your head when you see JB
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Why is justin beiber the first thing in your head when you see JB
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Or a dyslexic JB

knowing Samsung and Sprint it would get released with Froyo and the wait for official GB would begin AGAIN!!!

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I was talking to a friend of mine at the sprint store. He said that sprint and Samsung is going to release a new dual core processor android phone with keyboard (maybe like the at&t captivate glide). possible to replace the epic and possible by the end of the year. He said that the epic is still a good seller. When i saw the at&t captivate glide with 1GHz Nvidia Tegra 2 i wondered if that was the spec for the no show epic 2. If i get any more info i will post it.
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Yeah, Sprint doesn't tell stuff like this to the people at the stores. Ask me how I know.
Besides, Sprint already has the Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch and they are getting the Galaxy Nexus. I doubt that they would get a 3rd version of the same phone. Also, the Transform Ultra is about to come out and LG has an Optimus slider that is rumored to be coming to Sprint. There is still a hole in their line-up for a top tier phone with a keyboard, but I think they'll avoid an S II slider.
The more I think about it, I think your friend is getting confused with the Transform Ultra, which has a 1GHz single-core processor. It will be an upgrade to the Transform, but won't be as nice or as fast as the Epic.

Hey guys,
I just bought a magazine over the weekend called "Guide To Phone Apps". Not sure how long its been out, but it says to display until 12/27/11.
Anyway, the magazine itself is so-so, but they had a story on "Best Android Phones Right Now". The best part...they listed the Epic with all of these other phones: Samsung Galaxy SII, HTC Sensation, Motorola Atrix, LG G2x. They said it was at a disadvantage hardware-wise, but said it had an advantage of offering the slide-out qwerty keyboard.
I thought it was pretty cool.

screen size ?? 4.5 ??

Based on my using the screen keyboards on the Moment and Epic, there is no way I'll go to a phone without a physical keyboard.
I just got the Epic, currently on RandomRom 3.0, used so I don't have to renew my contract, and figure I will hold onto it for a while. Its a major upgrade over the Moment, even with the Moment at Android 2.2. Can't believe I waited this long to get the Epic...
I do hope there is a major upgrade a year or so out, but not holding my breath...