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Does Weather use Data? And ActiveSync question

Hello all!
I'm happy to report I've just ordered an HTC Vogue, and I've got two quick questions. I will not have a data plan with this phone, so my first question is this: does the weather screen require a data connection to update? If the data connection is disabled, what appears on that screen?
Secondly, I plan to use the GPS function of the phone with Tomtom. Will I be able to transfer files to the MicroSD card via the USB connection using ActiveSync, or will I need to get an adapter for the MicroSD card and write the files to it from my desktop PC first?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Bogus

yes it does.........without data plan, you will be paying more than what you should be paying for just simple weather report.
Why don't you get an Opal or Diamond. I think they both have wifi, and you can update when you are at home or where there is internet connection.

It's a bit too late to change my mind at this point. I plan on completely disabling the data transfer on this phone, so I won't be paying anything for that aspect actually. The short version of the story was my old phone died and I was able to get a Vogue for a reasonable price without extending my contract. Unfortunately adding a data plan is not an option for me currently. I don't really need the weather screen, just wondering if it'd function. Guess not. Can it be disabled or not shown? My primary reasons for getting this phone were really its hackability and being able to use GPS without a data plan (using Tomtom and a memory card). I'm not sure about the Opal, but an unlocked Diamond will surely cost three times what I paid for my Vogue.
In any case, do you know the answer to the ActiveSync part of my previous question? I did order an 8GB Sandisk with a USB adapter/reader, so if I have to I can transfer files directly from my PC, but it'd be easier to do it directly through an interface to the phone.

bogus83 said:
It's a bit too late to change my mind at this point. I plan on completely disabling the data transfer on this phone, so I won't be paying anything for that aspect actually. The short version of the story was my old phone died and I was able to get a Vogue for a reasonable price without extending my contract. Unfortunately adding a data plan is not an option for me currently. I don't really need the weather screen, just wondering if it'd function. Guess not. Can it be disabled or not shown? My primary reasons for getting this phone were really its hackability and being able to use GPS without a data plan (using Tomtom and a memory card). I'm not sure about the Opal, but an unlocked Diamond will surely cost three times what I paid for my Vogue.
In any case, do you know the answer to the ActiveSync part of my previous question? I did order an 8GB Sandisk with a USB adapter/reader, so if I have to I can transfer files directly from my PC, but it'd be easier to do it directly through an interface to the phone.
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If your tranferring a lot of data, sync the card directly through the PC, it will literally be about 10x faster. But, sync all your music files through the device with WMP. Syncing this way will add all the album covers and info, as long as it's on your PC, for use with an app like S2P.

Thanks for the advice. Ironically, music is what will be filling most of the card. When you say sync the music through WMP, how exactly is that done? If there's a faq or sticky on that I'd be glad to hit the books and stop asking questions. Would I need to have the music files in my Windows Media Player library on my PC and somehow synchronize my library on the Touch? I'm really not familiar with the concept of ActiveSync at all.
Edit: Oh, and one last question.. what is S2P?

bogus83 said:
Thanks for the advice. Ironically, music is what will be filling most of the card. When you say sync the music through WMP, how exactly is that done? If there's a faq or sticky on that I'd be glad to hit the books and stop asking questions. Would I need to have the music files in my Windows Media Player library on my PC and somehow synchronize my library on the Touch? I'm really not familiar with the concept of ActiveSync at all.
Edit: Oh, and one last question.. what is S2P?
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Search for S2P, you're in for a REAL treat. It's part of A_C's slide suite, S2U2 - Slide to Unlock screen locker, like the iP***e, S2V - Slide to View, nice photo browser, and S2P - Slide to Play, just a real kick ass music player ! Unfortunately, there are some sites out there selling his work, so all development has come to a stop. But, be sure to check them out.
Anyways, ActiveSync (XP) , or Windows Mobile Device Center (Vista), primarily is the tool to sync your PIM data, like calendar and contacts, with Outlook. Once your setup with AS or WMDC, open WMP, and open the sync tab. Make sure you only setup the SD card, otherwise when you open your library, only in WMP on the device, it will default to the device memory, kind of a pain.
I personally setup Auto Playlists, so my lists are always updated, something like, "Recently Added", or "Top Rated." When you setup the device, I suggest setting it to auto sync on connect, then all your ratings and play counts are always updated. Then choose your personal playlists, otherwise all your pics and vids will be converted and synced.
Also, if your like me, organize everything neatly. All my track names, artisit, album names, etc are filled in so searching for music is easy. If you use S2P, you may want to make sure the file names make some sort of sense, because in S2P you browse by file name.
Bottom line, if your PC's library is organized well, it will be transferred that way, making listening to music much more enjoyable.

bogus83 said:
My primary reasons for getting this phone were really its hackability and being able to use GPS without a data plan (using Tomtom and a memory card).
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not to thread jack, but i thought that you still would need a data plan for the gps to work? or is the gps antenna still in the phone unlike the wifi antenna?

Awesome, that'll work perfectly. And, I just did a bit of reading on WMDC, looks like it allows data connections to be shared with the mobile device too, which means I could dock my phone in the morning at home and download things like Email and weather, and again when I get to work. Can you save email replies while the phone is "offline" (not connected to data) and have them send when the phone is sync'd again? If so it sounds like the only thing I'd be missing on the phone would be the ability to surf the net or email when I'm not at home or at the office... which is OK with me.
I promise that's my last question for now, at least until I get my phone and start working on it. I wish there was some kind of "rep" system on this board- you've been extremely helpful tonight. Thanks!

hockeyizlife94 said:
not to thread jack, but i thought that you still would need a data plan for the gps to work? or is the gps antenna still in the phone unlike the wifi antenna?
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From what I understand you can use GPS with a navigation application such as Tomtom Navigator, which stores all of its maps on your memory card. It simply uses the GPS to update your present location. At least I certainly hope that's the case. TheChamp or anyone else watching this thread, please feel free to confirm or deny what I've suggested.
Update: This is the thread that gave me that impression. I may try the "offline Google Map" bit too, although I prefer the 3D navigation view. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402069&highlight=GPS+data

that sounds like it could be right, but im wondering how big of a file the gps maps would be now.

Approximately 847MB for the United States and Canada. I don't plan on going to Mexico anytime soon, so I think that'll do. And while it's not exactly a tiny amount, it's certainly an acceptable size considering I'll be working with an 8GB memory card.

nice, i dunno if you got started on it yet but heres a link i found and from what everyone is saying it works great...let me know how it goes..
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=24925

Well, I lied. I do have one more question for TheChamp or someone else "in the know." In a related guide to installing Rev.A/GPS, it mentions that "you cannot take calls while connected to GPS."
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=24979
Keep in mind, you will NOT be able to receive calls or text messages while GPS is active. This is a known bug and to date there is not known fix. It is just something we all have to deal with until someone figures out the missing link.
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(From the GPS How To section)
Is this true? That sounds like a severe limitation. If I'm going on a four hour road trip (which I frequently do for work) I don't want to have to pick between GPS and being able to speak with people. Ouch.

Where to begin !
hockeyizlife94 said:
not to thread jack, but i thought that you still would need a data plan for the gps to work? or is the gps antenna still in the phone unlike the wifi antenna?
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bogus83 said:
From what I understand you can use GPS with a navigation application such as Tomtom Navigator, which stores all of its maps on your memory card. It simply uses the GPS to update your present location. At least I certainly hope that's the case. TheChamp or anyone else watching this thread, please feel free to confirm or deny what I've suggested.
Update: This is the thread that gave me that impression. I may try the "offline Google Map" bit too, although I prefer the 3D navigation view. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402069&highlight=GPS+data
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I have the unlimited plan, so personally I pay no attention to this matter. But, the GPS and data connection are two different aspects. The GPS is like Wi-Fi, in the sense that it operates seperately. The GPS antenna will pick up the sat signals, and the only time I've seen a data connection initiated is when the map images were refreshed. So an app like TomTom with predefined maps should work, since it's simply pin-pointing coordinates to the map.
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Awesome, that'll work perfectly. And, I just did a bit of reading on WMDC, looks like it allows data connections to be shared with the mobile device too, which means I could dock my phone in the morning at home and download things like Email and weather, and again when I get to work. Can you save email replies while the phone is "offline" (not connected to data) and have them send when the phone is sync'd again? If so it sounds like the only thing I'd be missing on the phone would be the ability to surf the net or email when I'm not at home or at the office... which is OK with me.
I promise that's my last question for now, at least until I get my phone and start working on it. I wish there was some kind of "rep" system on this board- you've been extremely helpful tonight. Thanks!
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Yeah, this will work for everything! If you use Outlook, then you can sync your emails through WMDC and it will exchange the emails upon sync. The only downside, when you type up an email in the morning, it won't be sent until your next sync, but it works. Also, there are some apps, like Spb Insight (RSS reader), that will refresh content on sync/dock, makes good for refreshing headlines for the day.
Don't worry about the question! There is plenty to learn here, just be sure to ask in the right areas.
bogus83 said:
Well, I lied. I do have one more question for TheChamp or someone else "in the know." In a related guide to installing Rev.A/GPS, it mentions that "you cannot take calls while connected to GPS."
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=24979
(From the GPS How To section)
Is this true? That sounds like a severe limitation. If I'm going on a four hour road trip (which I frequently do for work) I don't want to have to pick between GPS and being able to speak with people. Ouch.
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At first, it seemed logical, since the GPS is enabled on the radio flash, which does affect the phone connection, but I had to test! I never noticed this problem, and from my test, NO problem woooohooooo !
I had six sats connected, called myself from my land line, recieved the call as usual, hung up, and still had all six sats running, not to mention, while obtaining a fix I was recieving email. So, should be good to go with this!

Confirmed: GPS does work on the Sprint Vogue without a data plan, AND can take/make calls at the same time. Interestingly, the first two times I got a lock it took 10-15 minutes. Every time since it's been anywhere from 1-5 minutes, usually closer to two or three. Can't complain about that! I wrote up my entire process, in case anyone has been following this thread. It wasn't very difficult but did involve a fair amount of research before acting, so if you're going to retrace my steps READ THE DIRECTIONS ON EACH PAGE please, so you don't brick your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2670205&postcount=7

You don't need the data plan to use GPS, HOWEVER if you want to use mapping software you'll have to use the standalone apps like TomTom that store maps on a data card.
With the data plan you can use apps like Windows Live Search and Google Maps that download "live" maps as you cruise.
Both have their advantages. I especially like Google Maps satellite view.

Yup. I've been using Tomtom Navigator, which stores the maps on my MicroSDHC card. It doesn't have satellite view, but it does 2D/3D which is good enough for me.

Flexilis Mobile Security Beta

Hey Everyone,
Wanted to tell all of you about a neat app we're developing, called Flexilis.
It's a mobile security suite for Windows Mobile devices, that keeps your device and data safe from loss, theft, hackers, viruses, malware, spam, and more.
We've currently opened signups for our private beta testing, if you're interested in checking it out, just hit up http://beta.flexilis.com and sign up, and feel free to chat about the product here
If anyone has questions or runs into trouble, just shoot us an email at [email protected] and we'll help you out!
-Chris
Community Director,
Flexilis Inc.
[email protected]

Also, if any of you request an invite and it hasnt gotten granted within a day or so, let me know and I'll take care of it.

If you weren't asking for so much personal information, you might actually get people to try your app...

we're actually working on revising that, the reason we ask for the phone number is because it's used to sms you your download link for the software later on in the process, we're in the process of moving that to later on in the process, as well as an explanation of why we ask for it.
Thanks for the feedback!
-Chris
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If you weren't asking for so much personal information, you might actually get people to try your app...
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Hey man,
nice thing with this soft, that we give the phone number is not so a big problem i think. could you post a little bit infos about the program? Cause on your side there a not many informations.
But i ithink i'll give it a try...

I just have one little question, on you privacy page you write:
When you use the Flexilis Services, our servers automatically record certain information about your usage. These logs may include information such as the IP address, mobile device identification number, phone number, operating system, version information, wireless carrier, web requests, browser type, browser language, referring pages, landing pages, pages viewed, or other usage information.
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Why do record the pages we visit?

we're still working on a little bit of a tour/walkthrough area of the software on the front page, as we get closer to public beta, but for now there's nothing there yet. My first post in this thread gives a brief summary of it though. Feel free to shoot me an email at [email protected] with any questions!
-Chris

There's nothing in the software that tracks the pages you view or anything, what that refers to is on our end we track what pages users use on the flexilis website the most, much the same way other websites do, to track what pages and content on our site our most popular, etc.
JeckyllHavok said:
I just have one little question, on you privacy page you write:
Why do record the pages we visit?
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I'm still not sure what your program do, but it certainly doesn't behave the way I expect.
1) Why to require authorization so often?
2) Contrary to the stated phone number is not accepted for authorization. Only email.
3) I don't really know what you mean by "a few minutes", but currently Flexilis is authorizing my phone already for more than two hours. I see no progress bar and I don't understan what's going.
4) I can't stop authorization process.
5) Why the authorization process continues even when I close all connections? Did you invent new method of communication?
6) The program is hidden from task managers and process viewers. What for?
I didn't sniff the traffic but currently behavior of your program reminds more of malware rather than security software.
My conclusion: As I don't understand what your program is doing, I'm not going to test it anymore until additional guidance is provided.
Sorry, if I'm sounding harsh. It's just writing style (tough work, you know )

No worries
1] once it's authorized the first time, it shouldnt have to authorize again, what kind of phone are you authorizing it on? we're making some fixes to the authorization process to make it even simpler that should roll out in the next release.
2] if you're outside of the US, you might need to add your country code and such if that's the case, let me know, or send me an email to [email protected] so we can look into it.
3] per all authorization questions, it'll try til its authorized, again we're fixing this.
4] per the it being hidden from task managers, we've given this some discussion, for right now it's a security feature to try to prevent theives from disabling the software, though we might fix that in the future to have the app visible in there somehow.
As far as being more indepth on all of the features, we are working on a tour of sorts to explain it all before the beta goes public.
Thanks for the feedback!
-Chris
mrcaze said:
I'm still not sure what your program do, but it certainly doesn't behave the way I expect.
1) Why to require authorization so often?
2) Contrary to the stated phone number is not accepted for authorization. Only email.
3) I don't really know what you mean by "a few minutes", but currently Flexilis is authorizing my phone already for more than two hours. I see no progress bar and I don't understan what's going.
4) I can't stop authorization process.
5) Why the authorization process continues even when I close all connections? Did you invent new method of communication?
6) The program is hidden from task managers and process viewers. What for?
I didn't sniff the traffic but currently behavior of your program reminds more of malware rather than security software.
My conclusion: As I don't understand what your program is doing, I'm not going to test it anymore until additional guidance is provided.
Sorry, if I'm sounding harsh. It's just writing style (tough work, you know )
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Authorizing a device ... what a hassle. I finally gave up since I couldn't tell if it was doing anything. No more testing for or feedback from me.

fredcatsmommy: sorry it didnt work out for you. hopefully in the future when that's fixed (should be less than a week), we can lure you back, it does some amazing stuff, but we do run into bugs from time to time due to the vast number of windows mobile devices out there, and only having a small test bed of them to work with. Keep your eyes peeled, and we'll have that fixed soon!
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Authorizing a device ... what a hassle. I finally gave up since I couldn't tell if it was doing anything. No more testing for or feedback from me.
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I think you need to tell us what the app actually does?
I have read this and your site and still don't know what it does?
Will hold off on trying it till I know.

How long is the initializing and activating supposed to take?

seriously, the authorizing bugs should have been worked out before releasing a beta here. we cant even tell if its running, authorizing, stealing information from our devices, etc.. I surely hope this is a legit app youre pushing, if so, FIX IT, so we can at least see what it does.
thx

I installed and authorized with no issues what-so-ever... contrary to what everyone else is saying everything seems to work just fine. works great and doesn't seem to take much memory... not a single complaint here!

Advertising your application for beta purposes is usually not a problem. But, it seems you are here more for "recruiting" testers than anything else. Looks like you joined for this purpose only.
My suggestion to you, is to give a little more description on your develpoment. Seems there are too many questions going unanswered here.

jhw549 said:
I installed and authorized with no issues what-so-ever... contrary to what everyone else is saying everything seems to work just fine. works great and doesn't seem to take much memory... not a single complaint here!
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what device do you have? did you do anything special to get it working?
I have a sprint vogue and installed to main mem and the data conn. is constantly active.

Polargoat said:
what device do you have? did you do anything special to get it working?
I have a sprint vogue and installed to main mem and the data conn. is constantly active.
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I have an HTC Mobul/Titan using default Rom/Radio with WinMo 6.1
To install it I just did what I would any other and installed it onto internal memory...

Correction: The application works just fine if you don't have push e-mail (aren't connected to a remote exchange server), I have been having problems all day with my push e-mail from mail2web which I use to forward my work e-mail to my phone. I have therefore decided to remove it as I can't afford to have it interfere with work.

How much data do you use?

Just curious.
Many "unlimited" data plans still have some type of monthly cap (e.g. 5GB) that many people are not aware of, and if you go over that cap, they can terminate your data plan without notice. Has this happened to anybody?
Here are some baseline data usage traffic that I've measured:
-refreshing CNN rss hub containing 10 headlines: 8KB
-updating 8 cities in touchflo weather: 17KB
-launching opera to google homepage: 20KB
-activate send/receive for one new email: 26KB
-launching factory youtube player: 240KB
-opening youtube homepage via opera: 324KB
-using opera to get to yahoo mail inbox: 360KB
-launching google maps and playing around for about 2 minutes (panned around, opened street view, opened satellite view, got directions once): total ~1024KB = ~1MB
-playing a 5 minute video using factory youtube player: 20767KB = ~20.3MB
So, data usage can really add up if you use it everyday. Using about 170MB a day adds up to 5GB in a month. How much data are you guys using per day or month?

i have a 200MB plan and the last to month i used about 20-30mb each ^^ didnt happen to use it much
imo its almost impossible to get 5gb ^^ i hardly get hsdpa (not even 3G) so its kinda crap with my phone.. 200mb is overkill for me uses a lot of battery as well

only just got mine but have "unlimited" usage on my vodafone uk tariff....nice little small print in the "fair use policy" show unlimited to them actually means 500MB a month.....I hope I don't breach it.
Anyone recommend a nice little Data monitor to make sure?

definitely spd wireless monitor. costs a small bit but its awesome..

i usually average 50-100 mb a month on my kaiser ising manilla weather at least once a day, little bits and bobs of browsing, push e-mail with 2-3 emails a day, the ocasional small file download off the net, occasional you tube use...
but my fisrt month with touch hd i used 250mb, i think i did a lot more browsing, downloading and you tubeing. not had my second bill yet

on N!ghty's recommendation I grabbed a copy of SPB Wireless Monitor......very good little app. Not going to make use of the today screen plugin due to Touch HD's theme...but still..check it every now and then and it's doing the job.
NOTE: anyone else hate SPB's icon set...bunch of balls (atoms?) stuck together...just...shocking!

I had used spb for data monitoring a while ago but had switched to Efficasoft GPRS Traffic Monitor. I install it on my SD card so that after each hard reset I don't lost the month to date data. No reinstallation either after each hard reset. Just make copy the shortcut for spgm.exe to the startup folder and spgtc.exe to the Start Menu and I'm done.

I have flat rate data plan, fine print says it's 10 gb per month. To be honest, haven't breached a 1 gb yet Although I expect to be around 3-4 gb once I start traveling around again these days...

My plan is only 250 mb in a month.
It is very easy to reach.

I used spb wireless monitor to get those numbers above...I recommend it for those who don't have unlimited data because it also lets you set an alarm after a certain amount of usage to help prevent going over.
In case others like me didn't know this...leaving your data connection on all the time doesn't use up any data. However, obivously, it will use up data when it updates things you have set to automatically update (like email, weather, etc).

Is there any way to look it up on the touch hd software without installing a new app like efficasoft or spb wireless monitor?

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Is there any way to look it up on the touch hd software without installing a new app like efficasoft or spb wireless monitor?
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No, Windows Mobile itself doesn't support it .

i get 500mb through Orange's "unlimited internet"
curious to see how my first month's bill comes out.
In my first 4 days i've been using it alot setting things up, fiddling around and sending myself .cab files and images etc when in the office (as didn't have the USB cable or blutooth)

I too have a vodafone "unlimited" package with a fair use policy of 500mb....I've used 45mb in the last month.
To give you and idea of my usages...I have my emails set to download via contract internet (HSDPA) every 5 minutes...I use the internet about 10-30mins a day on contract internet...so 40mb is pretty good.
I don't use it do grab torrents or anything like that obviously

On a 1Gb plan with Three. Normally use 500 - 800Mb each month, most going towards youtube entertainment on the bus.
If I go over my cap, I get billed and the rates are shocking O___o

I watch a couple of videos but mainly it's just browsing for me, I rarely go above 200-300MB.

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I had used spb for data monitoring a while ago but had switched to Efficasoft GPRS Traffic Monitor. I install it on my SD card so that after each hard reset I don't lost the month to date data. No reinstallation either after each hard reset. Just make copy the shortcut for spgm.exe to the startup folder and spgtc.exe to the Start Menu and I'm done.
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I use SPB and use Sashimi to help load everything back after a flash.. One thing it will do is backup and then restore you 'My Documents' to the phone so I haven't lost the SPB data for a while.

I get through about 1-200mb a month on O2 uk. I also use the online billing to keep an eye on how much I go through. It's update daily so I never have any issues with using too much

Although I haven't measured the data usage or anything, I'm sure that if you're surfing through Google's mobile proxy
http://www.google.co.uk/gwt/n (for the UK; make appropriate adjustments for your country)
your data usage will be less than if you were viewing web sites directly, as the proxy strips down a web site to its bare essentials... Of course, this means you won't get the full browsing experience, but it's good for web sites where you're mostly interested in the text content.
On the other extreme, a browser like Skyfire (which attempts to replicate the PC browsing experience on your mobile device) is probably going to hit your bandwidth hard.
It would be interesting if someone did a comparison of data usage with these two methods.

Need Help Understanding My HD

is there any kind of option or tweak or whatever for the mobile internet use of this thing. On any other normal phone you would get they ask for permission to access your internet if it needs to. this thing ends up costing you a fortune when youre new to it. yes ive now unchecked update weather and stock things but it still does it in some instances without me knowing. when i was on google maps i think even though i was using wifi at the time!
while im on one the text messaging on this thing is a joke. why the hell is there like 2 interface sort of things with it. the one on the sense thing sucks as when you go to reply and it says 'tap to compose text' it takes 20 million taps to do anything. not to mention when you do eventually hit send after having to rewrite half of it coz it looks like its written in german it goes to your outbox without sending. the times i have been waiting for a reply for about 2 hours only to discover that its not been sent!

first job, go and instal either all the hot fixes on the htc website, or better still a full rom update if it will letyou.
sounds like you are still on the original rom which quite frankly sucks for many people.

About the net stuff: Smartphones like the one you just got, or an iphone to get a more popular reference ( ) are pretty much meant to be connected to the net all the time, and thus used with a data plan that suits it.
If you want to disable mobile connections just do a little search for Modaco NoData.

I sincerely get upset by this kind of messages. It is his/hers first message on this forum and it's only negative in the sense that the device is not doing what he/she wants. When do people realize that they need time to get to know what there/this device can/cannot do before posting threads with stupid titles.
Sigh!!

There *are* notifications warning the user that using apps like weather auto-update will use data connection and may incur charges. They only appear once, when launching an app for the first time. So it's not really phones fault that you didn't read them.
I believe it's not the phone that is stupid in this case.

Yeah, you need to update. The latest 1.66 ROM should fix your sms issues as well as a couple other ones.
As mentioned, these modern "smartphones" are made to be connected to the net 24/7. As some of their main selling points is the automatic updates of your social networking sites and what not. I personally do not use those features and have them all turned off. I personally have never seen an iPhone sold without a data plan as that is just pointless.
I would look into getting an unlimted data plan (which this phone warns you to have) or get that Nodata thing.

Smartphone my ringpiece. If its that smart why cant it just ask you if you want to connect via contract internet? I do use the internet on it a lot but mainly wifi so i dont see it being worth paying for unlimited usage. Wether I want to do that or not isnt anything to do with the question.
Don't get me wrong I like the phone but my main beef is that these bloody companies release most their products only half finished. If your paying as much as you are for these things you expect to be able to send a god damn message.
As for so called warning messages i didnt get any of this. And of course you expect something like this to "do what you want". You dont expect to buy a £600 phone to not be able to text someone. If you're so 'upset' by this message then why bother replying. Maybe leave it to someone who can actually be a bit more informative.

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Maybe leave it to someone who can actually be a bit more informative.
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You had your answers. For the SMS issue install the hotfixes, or better flash the latest ROM. For data, delete the internet settings or get NoData, or this.
An iPhone doesn't let you disable internet connection by default either.

[idea] Mobile AP Wifi Landing page!!!!

Hi i'm a freelancing graphic designer/ web designer / anything creative....
I goto coffee shops alot and I always use Mobile AP.... works like a treat on my Vibrant w/ Froyo Rom (Axura)...and that got me wondering....
is it possible to have a landing page for my Mobile AP....basically i was hoping to make a webpage with advertisement about my "graphic design services"....
and add a button labeled "Connect".... this way the people with unlimited data plan... can offer internet to the "less fortunate" ....
and if people are interested... how about implementing paypal

solidkundi said:
Hi i'm a freelancing graphic designer/ web designer / anything creative....
I goto coffee shops alot and I always use Mobile AP.... works like a treat on my Vibrant w/ Froyo Rom (Axura)...and that got me wondering....
is it possible to have a landing page for my Mobile AP....basically i was hoping to make a webpage with advertisement about my "graphic design services"....
and add a button labeled "Connect".... this way the people with unlimited data plan... can offer internet to the "less fortunate" ....
and if people are interested... how about implementing paypal
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your bandwith would skyrocket if lots of people in a coffee shop used your mobile ap and tmobile would throttle you before you can say "what the hell just happened?"

solidkundi said:
Hi i'm a freelancing graphic designer/ web designer / anything creative....
I goto coffee shops alot and I always use Mobile AP.... works like a treat on my Vibrant w/ Froyo Rom (Axura)...and that got me wondering....
is it possible to have a landing page for my Mobile AP....basically i was hoping to make a webpage with advertisement about my "graphic design services"....
and add a button labeled "Connect".... this way the people with unlimited data plan... can offer internet to the "less fortunate" ....
and if people are interested... how about implementing paypal
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unlimited plans are never really unlimited when it comes to 3g

shehrammajid said:
your bandwith would skyrocket if lots of people in a coffee shop used your mobile ap and tmobile would throttle you before you can say "what the hell just happened?"
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Thanks for the post OP. I had totally forgotten about Mobile AP. I had been using Barnacle to tether wirelessly. GREAT thing about Mobile AP is that my PS3 finds it and I've been connected all evening!
As far as the above quote, it will only allow up to 5 devices to be connected and also, I put a passcode on my wifi so anyone attempting to pick up my signal will have to know my passcode.
The Icon to put on one of my screens as a shortcut really helps a lot.
Thanks again!

shehrammajid said:
your bandwith would skyrocket if lots of people in a coffee shop used your mobile ap and tmobile would throttle you before you can say "what the hell just happened?"
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...and the landing page changes to T-Mobile tethering notification page.

And your unlimited data plan with T-mobile is up to 5gb before they throttle you to the point where some have reported pages timing out because it's so slow.
Nice thought though.

I understand that i could be throttled down ..... I'm sure you can limit the number of devices that could be connected..... and maybe if i can restrict it to "Browsing only" .....
but my question is.....is this possible?
heres the basic outline of what i think should be featured on the app:
*landing page customizable
*option for password
*option to restrict to only browsing or only email?
*option to restrict the amount of devices that can be connected simultaneously
*integration w/ paypal ...so android owners can setup their account so they can charge for the internet service they're providing...
*referrals make commission
ofcourse this will be a project... but i'm sure we can all benefit from something like this..

Still a Great Idea
Just Googled for this idea. I agree it would be awesome. I have a little home-grown business, and when the wifi goes down at school, I'd love to use my unlimited plan on my phone to allow the class to connect to my wifi AND have then be forced to the homepage of my business first.
Still nothing? I'd love this.

no idea any one
solidkundi said:
I understand that i could be throttled down ..... I'm sure you can limit the number of devices that could be connected..... and maybe if i can restrict it to "Browsing only" .....
but my question is.....is this possible?
heres the basic outline of what i think should be featured on the app:
*landing page customizable
*option for password
*option to restrict to only browsing or only email?
*option to restrict the amount of devices that can be connected simultaneously
*integration w/ paypal ...so android owners can setup their account so they can charge for the internet service they're providing...
*referrals make commission
ofcourse this will be a project... but i'm sure we can all benefit from something like this..
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its possible