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T-mobile is Turning on Data Throttling

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Hey guys i was on twitter and i saw this, basically T-mobile is capping us at 5gb a month of data, and if we exceed this monthly they will slow down our internet speeds to make sure users experience fast speeds all around. Each month is a fresh slate, what does everyone think of this?
Here is the link Data Throttling.
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T-Mobile had become the only top-tier carrier in the US to endorse data throttling over capping back in April, and at the time, we'd thought the feature was being turned on immediately -- but new communication being passed around internally has us thinking that they're just now getting around to flipping the switch. A screen up on TmoNews says that the policy will start this Saturday, October 16, after which exceeding 5GB of data usage in a month will result in "web browsing capabilities... at slower speeds... which will be determined by [the user's] device type." If it's any consolation, the same screen says that less than one percent of users will actually be affected in practice... and something tells us most of you know who you are. But hey, getting throttled is still better than getting slammed with overage, right?
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Personally I don't think its that huge of a deal. I mean really, how many people will use over 5GB of data? I use my HD2 constantly, and barely use more than 1GB a month. And its not like they are making us pay for going over that 5GB, the speed just drops a little bit...so all around its not that bad.

i agree too, i just checked my statements and i used around 250mb so i couldn't imagine using 5gb a month either. I wonder what the data speeds will be for those who have gone over 5gb?
I think this is also a way to enforce the lack of tmousa built in wifi tethering.

I am curious, why do you think its a way to enforce the lack of tethering? What do you mean?

ashasaur said:
I am curious, why do you think its a way to enforce the lack of tethering? What do you mean?
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tmobile left out wifi tethering from there stock roms on purpose, they do not want us using their network for other mobile devices. The only way i was able to use wifi tethering was by installing a cab or custom rom. I think we can agree those who use wifi tethering regularly on their phones use much more data monthly, therefore by tmobile imposing this it will act as a cutoff for those using it.

6.3gb soo far this month ... my billing period should end this 18th

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6.3gb soo far this month ... my billing period should end this 18th
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let us know what happens next month when you exceed 5gb, i wonder how much they will limit your data speeds.

I exceed 5gb a month but i tether with it all the time, also the HD2 comes already tether ready, just plug it in the computer and select Internet sharing.

went over data limit
well when i went over they sent me a text message saaying i already exeeded my data for the month and my speeds will be reduced. when i first went over i couldnt play youtube and the webites would take a while to load but it aint that bad for me idk if thats the case with anyone else. i use my hd2 to tether alot since i go to school and download a few things here n there.

I read in another post post (op said he works for tmo) that the speed will drop to normal edge connection once you reach the 5 gb cap.
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I use my phone to tether like mad with my laptop (and yes the stock rom includes the tethering option) and i don't see myself over 3GB/mo

jfmckenna said:
i agree too, i just checked my statements and i used around 250mb so i couldn't imagine using 5gb a month either. I wonder what the data speeds will be for those who have gone over 5gb?
I think this is also a way to enforce the lack of tmousa built in wifi tethering.
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right but i said wifi tethering

My buddy broke this cap several times using his g1 and later his click when tethering. He would get the text from t mobile, and his speeds dropped to 50kbps (dial up speeds)
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they should get rid of this rule, i used the teather feture for internet use on my computer, once you go over the speed dropps significatly, i can bearly use my internet on my phone waiting about 2-3 mins or longer for a page to load

yuroko said:
they should get rid of this rule, i used the teather feture for internet use on my computer, once you go over the speed dropps significatly, i can bearly use my internet on my phone waiting about 2-3 mins or longer for a page to load
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you are an "internet abuser", please leave the planet...lol.
I am also throttled until Nov. 1
ttly blows.

anhyeuemmaimai said:
I use my phone to tether like mad with my laptop (and yes the stock rom includes the tethering option) and i don't see myself over 3GB/mo
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Yeah i have noticed the same thing, i tether on occasion. however about 2 months ago i tethered ALL the time just trying to hit that cap to see what would happen and when the bill came i just barely got there about 4.5gb of usage.
Mind you this was doing just about everything high bandwidth i could think of on purpose, tons of youtube videos, etc. the only way i can think of to quickly hit that would be torrenting. if you are torrenting on your cellphone then you deserve to be cut off. Aside from all the data transfer, torrents broadcast tons of smaller packets to many many clients, that has gotta reek havoc with a cellular infrastructure
If youre gona torrent use your land based broadband or your neighbors open wifi, youre a fool if you think somehow they arent going to be able to track you down by your cell phone's IP

d0ug said:
Yeah i have noticed the same thing, i tether on occasion. however about 2 months ago i tethered ALL the time just trying to hit that cap to see what would happen and when the bill came i just barely got there about 4.5gb of usage.
Mind you this was doing just about everything high bandwidth i could think of on purpose, tons of youtube videos, etc. the only way i can think of to quickly hit that would be torrenting. if you are torrenting on your cellphone then you deserve to be cut off. Aside from all the data transfer, torrents broadcast tons of smaller packets to many many clients, that has gotta reek havoc with a cellular infrastructure
If youre gona torrent use your land based broadband or your neighbors open wifi, youre a fool if you think somehow they arent going to be able to track you down by your cell phone's IP
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I watch youtube, visit forums, and download tweaks from xda.
I doubt you guys are trying as hard as you claim to max out your gigz.
I use this phone to surf the net because holding a sleeping baby does not work sitting in front of a conventional p.c. or laptop.
They like to be walked around, and will awaken if you stop or sit down...
This is the best way to surf...well used to be.

kidrythm said:
I watch youtube, visit forums, and download tweaks from xda.
I doubt you guys are trying as hard as you claim to max out your gigz.
I use this phone to surf the net because holding a sleeping baby does not work sitting in front of a conventional p.c. or laptop.
They like to be walked around, and will awaken if you stop or sit down...
This is the best way to surf...well used to be.
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walking a sleeping baby... sounds like youre at home, so why not use wifi? it would likely be faster than 3g, and prob save your battery some too, since wifi at most transmits a quarter watt, vs a cellular radio broadcasting a watt or more. If you dont have a wifi AP, spend $50 on a new one, or you can probably pickup a used B access point from ebay for like $5 which would be more than adequate for the HD2

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walking a sleeping baby... sounds like youre at home, so why not use wifi? it would likely be faster than 3g, and prob save your battery some too, since wifi at most transmits a quarter watt, vs a cellular radio broadcasting a watt or more. If you dont have a wifi AP, spend $50 on a new one, or you can probably pickup a used B access point from ebay for like $5 which would be more than adequate for the HD2
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good point, we are hardwired here but going wifi for the phone is a thought with the tethering in play.
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*Wireless Tether App for Android Gets Banned by Carriers*

not sure if this has been posted:
http://pocketnow.com/android/wireless-tether-app-for-android-gets-banned-by-carriers
In Android, there are several different ways to tether, both officially (through an app that comes on the device for which you must pay to use), and unofficially (on unlocked and rooted devices). The carriers obviously want you to pay a monthly tethering fee, which often comes in at around $20 for 2GB. For years, this has been protested by some subscribers who contend that since they're already paying for a data plan, it should be up to them, and not the carrier, to determine how the data is used.
Many recent smartphones come with a carrier-sanctioned Mobile Hotspot app that only works if you've paid that extra fee to add tethering to your data plan. If your device is unlocked or rooted, you can use the built-in tethering function found in Android 2.2 and 2.3 settings. More commonly, rooted users use the free Wireless Tether app for Android, which does a great job at sharing your device's connection with a variety of devices.
The days of the Wireless Tether app might over, though. Carriers have begun blocking the app, even if you're rooted. We've checked for the app on a Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint device, and it's not available on the former two. However, on an unlocked Sony Ericsson device without a SIM card, the app is available. After inserting an AT&T SIM card into the phone, the app disappears.

Short version below.
"Only Sprint has decided against banning such apps."

rushco said:
Short version below.
"Only Sprint has decided against banning such apps."
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Don't you have to he rooted to use the app? And, if you're rooted and running 2.2+ isn't native tethering available? Seems like a moot point to block the app... go sprint btw, they really seem to be embracing android and this whole phone freedom philosophy with this and their unofficial policy on rooted phones.
Tapa tapa tapa

Im really starting to believe more each day that I made the right choice by dumping verizon and going to sprint. I do not regret it.
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Does this really surprise anyone from the carriers that limit or throttle?

Also there is a very simple rule to think about.
If there is a way to lock it, there is a way to unlock it.

What would stop someone from side loading the app? There are places other than the almighty android market to procure such tethering apps. AT&T likes to block side loading, but I thought you could just use ADB to push files anyways.

Score one for Sprint!*
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*for the time being

conqu1stador said:
Score one for Sprint!*
*for the time being
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+1 on the vid

Yeah sprint all the way

k2buckley said:
What would stop someone from side loading the app? There are places other than the almighty android market to procure such tethering apps. AT&T likes to block side loading, but I thought you could just use ADB to push files anyways.
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Nothing... you can still side load it or download it via wifi.

Regardless of workarounds, at the end of the day it is the idea behind the 'restrictions.' Or attempted ones, at that. It's the principle. It's the evil, at it's base, regardless of avoidance.

k2buckley said:
What would stop someone from side loading the app? There are places other than the almighty android market to procure such tethering apps. AT&T likes to block side loading, but I thought you could just use ADB to push files anyways.
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In the case of ATT, they remove the option from settings to allow apps from unknown sources. So you cannot side load apps unless you root the phone.

Just a thought.
Would you rather have throttled data after so many gigs and free tethering, or paid tethering and never throttle?
I'd pick throttle after so many gigs.

AbsolutZeroGI said:
Just a thought.
Would you rather have throttled data after so many gigs and free tethering, or paid tethering and never throttle?
I'd pick throttle after so many gigs.
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I believe this to be a false choice.
From June through September of 2010, I self-righteously scoffed at those who "Tethered for free" using any of the workarounds to Sprint's $30.00/month Hotspot. I paid the $30,00 each month while naively waiting for Sprint to fix the 50% through-speed issue.
The open CTMS ticket xxxxxxxx-100817, to address the throttled through-speeds has become a long running joke.
I would indeed love the option to purchase an unthrottled, tethered 4G connection for my laptop, but I will not pay for something that Sprint and Clear have no intention of delivering.

Actually using Wireless Teather from my Evo on my laptop right now.

am I missing something
The way I see it is I pay for 4G on Sprint's network, however I do not have 4G in my area, I don't complain about that, so why is sprint complaining? are they saying were ripping them off.. because we use a free app to get service we already pay for?

firemedic333 said:
The way I see it is I pay for 4G on Sprint's network, however I do not have 4G in my area, I don't complain about that, so why is sprint complaining? are they saying were ripping them off.. because we use a free app to get service we already pay for?
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Well, with Sprints new policy on any smartphone, everyone that gets any Android (4g or not), Blackberry, etc. are now paying the $10 premium data charge.
Also, it is amazing to me how providers think they have a right to tell people what they can and cannot do with a device that they own. I am just saying, this is like Comcast telling someone they can't install a program on their computer because they are using their internet connection.

drgonzo712 said:
Well, with Sprints new policy on any smartphone, everyone that gets any Android (4g or not), Blackberry, etc. are now paying the $10 premium data charge.
Also, it is amazing to me how providers think they have a right to tell people what they can and cannot do with a device that they own. I am just saying, this is like Comcast telling someone they can't install a program on their computer because they are using their internet connection.
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Your using the network which they own. The phone may be yours but the infrastructure is not. They have every right to control or restrict the amount or rate at which use data on their network.

MCL1981 said:
Your using the network which they own. The phone may be yours but the infrastructure is not. They have every right to control or restrict the amount or rate at which use data on their network.
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That is correct, without them, your phone is pretty much worthless, so yes they can and have ever right to control how the data is used on your device.
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T-Mobile cracking down on tethering.

Me on dark side ics and my brother on dark side gb have been getting texts tonight about paying for tethering. This has never happened. Anybody else?
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Same thing happen to me been a while since I use the hotspot though
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Use wifi hotspot
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Lately pretty much all the carriers are tracking down on mobile hotspot and require you to pay an additional cost for that feature. This is only in the United States. Before, you were allowed to use your data amounts whether it was limited or unlimited any way that you wanted. So be careful, because doing this could cause you to be charged extra for unauthorized thethering from T-Mobile.

icepally said:
Use wifi hotspot
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Will this work even on the 2gb plan? I think they started giving you free hotspot with the 5gb plan, but is this a feature of the phone and does the plan not matter?

Ive gotten that text twice. They never do anything about it.
Also, i used to be on the 2gb plan and it worked fine.

T mobile have a special going on not that long ago were all you had to do was call and get the free tethering added more people should have taken advantage of it.
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We will get signed out of PlayStation network. I wonder if wifi tether will get noticed haha
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Free Wifi Tethering is added only if you get the current 10GB plan. I had to upgrade to it when I started getting on the road a lot more for my work. It was funny because the associate on the phone said (along with your upgrade, we'll be including the Wifi Hotspot option so you may use your phone to connect any device to the internet...!) ...Oh... orly? how NICE... when did they start doing that? That's amazing.

I can no longer tether on tmobile with the native wifi hotspot. I keep getting redirected to a tmo webpage telling me to buy the hotspot feature.
Prepaid $70/mo plan.
Eugene's Cm7 kang with no tmobile tethering manager software.

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Free Wifi Tethering is added only if you get the current 10GB plan. I had to upgrade to it when I started getting on the road a lot more for my work. It was funny because the associate on the phone said (along with your upgrade, we'll be including the Wifi Hotspot option so you may use your phone to connect any device to the internet...!) ...Oh... orly? how NICE... when did they start doing that? That's amazing.
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They offer it for the 5gb plan too. They just raised the price from $30 to $35.
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The my account app has nothing to do with monitoring your tethering usage.
I froze my account in TB and then rebooted the phone.
Got this screen on my 1st tethering attempt :
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I haven't gotten the text yet, but I'm a pretty light tethering user.
A workaround might be to setup your home router as a VPN and route your tethering traffic through that. Might slow it down a bit, and kinda a hassle, but T-Mobile would have no way of seeing what your traffic contains.

Changing your computer browser's user agent to Firefox or something other than Internet Explorer will allow tethering to work.
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TJBunch1228 said:
They offer it for the 5gb plan too. They just raised the price from $30 to $35.
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whaaaat?!!
I pay $25 a month for 5 gig with wifi tether.
where did you get 30-35?

PikkonX said:
Changing your computer browser's user agent to Firefox or something other than Internet Explorer will allow tethering to work.
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Im using a mac and the browser was safari.
Maybe something like the vpn trick listed above would work? Im not familiar with how a vpn works and I dont have a home router.. so it may not work for me

Confused. If you have a router then why would you even need to use hotspot when the router is doing that for you. ?????
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How odd...Comcast's internet at my house went down last night and I started my wifi hotspot on AOKP (team kang's release) and had no problems. Haven't used it in a long while, but I used at least 200ish mb last night from being on skype
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Just tried it out right now, typing on my tethered connection right now, HSPA+ and all..

Nihonno said:
Free Wifi Tethering is added only if you get the current 10GB plan. I had to upgrade to it when I started getting on the road a lot more for my work. It was funny because the associate on the phone said (along with your upgrade, we'll be including the Wifi Hotspot option so you may use your phone to connect any device to the internet...!) ...Oh... orly? how NICE... when did they start doing that? That's amazing.
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When I got my free tethering I did not have to get the current 10 gb plan. I still got the 5 gb plan.
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Someone over in the epic 4G touch made a hotspot hack where all tethering is free......maybe a dev needs to go check it out
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Blocking hotspot??

I just got a text from t mobile that says hotspot has been blocked . Has anyone else got this email. My n4 was brought from Google so would they even be able to block it ?
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They monitor useragent strings. I got texts saying that they might block me then they blocked access to Internet Explorer (but nothing else) but I just called and they changed me to Simple Choice since it was the same price as the Value Plan I was on.
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DroidDavi said:
I just got a text from t mobile that says hotspot has been blocked . Has anyone else got this email. My n4 was brought from Google so would they even be able to block it ?
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you bought the phone from google, but you are using tmobiles network. you agreed to their to rules by paying for their services and by using their simcard on their network. they see everything going through their network. they have a right to do as they wish with their network. they know you by your imei number on their network. if i bought a car in ohio, but am driving it in new york, i still have to follow new yorks traffic laws or i can get fined/arrested/have my licence revoked.

Sounds right
Here's what happened to me when I was testing tethering. I am on the $30 100 min prepaid plan. I tethered my laptop by the CM10 native WIFI hotspot. All was well. I even used it for an hour or so to make sure I could do everything I might need. Then I tried the built in USB tether. First time I tried to use Firefox, I immediately got the invitation to add tethering to my plan. Went back to WIFI, same message.
I thought, great, now in an emergency I may not be able to use this. But - put the SIM in a different phone - no messages, tether worked fine. So I think you are right, they tie the detection to the IMEI number, not the SIM or account.
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you bought the phone from google, but you are using tmobiles network. you agreed to their to rules by paying for their services and by using their simcard on their network. they see everything going through their network. they have a right to do as they wish with their network. they know you by your imei number on their network. if i bought a car in ohio, but am driving it in new york, i still have to follow new yorks traffic laws or i can get fined/arrested/have my licence revoked.
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This keeps being reported, and I've seen the page as well. I have yet to be permanently blocked, though. I'm using paranoid 3.65 (july 10) and native wifi hotspot. All I have to do is disable the hotspot & re-enable it, then I'm back in

Disabling the tether and re-enabling did not work for me. I was tethering LTE, second phone was not LTE capable, if that might be handled differently??

I'm using lte, as well...on baseband .33
This was just a few days ago, and I believe it proves they aren't stopping me lol:
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Certainly not doubting you, simply relating my experiences. Did you tether via USB any time?
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I'm using lte, as well...on baseband .33
This was just a few days ago, and I believe it proves they aren't stopping me lol:
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hp420 said:
I'm using lte, as well...on baseband .33
This was just a few days ago, and I believe it proves they aren't stopping me lol:
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if you are using a custom rom, that includes the latest dalvik commits, then your phone is calculating the data used wrong, this is a known issue. i didnt use 28.57gb in a week. check with tmobiles website to get your accurate usage(if you didnt)..

simms22 said:
if you are using a custom rom, that includes the latest dalvik commits, then your phone is calculating the data used wrong, this is a known issue. i didnt use 28.57gb in a week. check with tmobiles website to get your accurate usage(if you didnt).
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I don't doubt I've used that much
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Certainly not doubting you, simply relating my experiences. Did you tether via USB any time?
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Yes, occasionally, because I get faster speeds if I do When I use a usb connection I use easytether (paid version), because it stays enabled through a reboot and it works with ubuntu.

hp420 said:
I don't doubt I've used that much
Yes, occasionally, because I get faster speeds if I do When I use a usb connection I use easytether, because it stays enabled through a reboot and it works with ubuntu.
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wasnt doubting you(really), i just wanted you to be aware that there is that issue, to inform you in case. many dont know and are freaking out that they used more than their allowed data.
for years i tethered without paying and tmobile doing anything. i used to average about 16-30gb data used per month. the year two januarys ago, they finally stopped me, and i played the changing the user agent game. torwards the end of last year, i got tired of the game, and ended up purchasing a tethering plan. i tell you what, its nice not worrying about it anymore

simms22 said:
wasnt doubting you(really), i just wanted you to be aware that there is that issue, to inform you in case. many dont know and are freaking out that they used more than their allowed data.
for years i tethered without paying and tmobile doing anything. i used to average about 16-30gb data used per month. the year two januarys ago, they finally stopped me, and i played the changing the user agent game. torwards the end of last year, i got tired of the game, and ended up purchasing a tethering plan. i tell you what, its nice not worrying about it anymore
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Yeah, I understand that. I'm starting to get a little concerned, but I really haven't had anything happen except two or three times I've been re-routed to the page that says I have no tethering plan or I'm over my data. If I start getting threatening calls or messages from them, then I'll deal with it, but so far I haven't had any real issues except the minor annoyance of having to disable/re-enable the tethering. Once or twice I've had to reboot my phone, too, because the speed got painfully slow. Honestly, though, for the price I pay and being able to use it in the place of a land-line isp, even if I have to deal with that occasionally for life I'm ok with it lol

simms22 said:
wasnt doubting you(really), i just wanted you to be aware that there is that issue, to inform you in case. many dont know and are freaking out that they used more than their allowed data.
for years i tethered without paying and tmobile doing anything. i used to average about 16-30gb data used per month. the year two januarys ago, they finally stopped me, and i played the changing the user agent game. torwards the end of last year, i got tired of the game, and ended up purchasing a tethering plan. i tell you what, its nice not worrying about it anymore
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Hello,
Correct me if I'm wrong. You tethered 16-30gb per month using circumvention, got tired of User Agent games, then you surrendered and went with a legit T-Mobile plan that STILL LETS YOU TETHER 16-30GB/MONTH?? I need to know! lol
The way you worded it gives this impression.

Verizon's new "Unlimited" plan, the Moto X, tethering, and you.

With the Moto X Pure Edition/Style not requiring hotspot tethering provisioning, how does Verizon measure the 10 GB of tethering data? Is there a ping back to Verizon notifying them of tethering activity, or are these phones essentially able to tether unlimited??

I've been wondering this also. And if stock does NOT get around the 10gb threshold, can/will custom roms be able to? I'm on Verizon right now, still on a grandfathered unlimited plan, so right now i can tether all I want.
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Wondering also
I've been wondering this also .. I think they won't be able to monitor the tethering usage.. I will find out in a month and if they can't I might add the Pure as a 20 dollar add on when I get a new phone to use as a hotspot for home..

I'm thinking if your provisioning is off on the custom rom they can't track it. When i was on unlimited before, they blocked the hotspot through the provisioning. I had to bypass it in the build.prop.

I am very interested in this info as well, I'm on an ancient plan from Alltel that has unlimited data. The only problem I am running into is I need to add a line or two and can't. I'd consider the new unlimited plans if I could still tether unlimited with my MXP.

Working on TW, should work on VZW postpaid
I can't speak for Verizon postpaid, but I was pleasantly surprised to find that tethering works on Total Wireless with the stock Rom. This is the first phone I've ever used that had tethering working properly out-of-the-box on the stock Rom.

Bill720 said:
I can't speak for Verizon postpaid, but I was pleasantly surprised to find that tethering works on Total Wireless with the stock Rom. This is the first phone I've ever used that had tethering working properly out-of-the-box on the stock Rom.
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Say hello to Moto
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Who'd have thunk?
SR3TLAW said:
Say hello to Moto
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That I have. This is the first time in nearly ten years that the opportunity to use a functional stock Rom has presented itself. I don't know if Lenovo is going to keep returning the favor, but even the stock Android M Rom is pretty solid so far. It'll have to pass my uptime test first though to know for sure.

Our Telecome Company can monitor Data throu tethering too ..i had 2GB PLAN With unlimited YouTube usage but if i use tethering and use YouTube on another device they took from the 2GB

Now that it has been a full month can anyone confirm this? If I can tether all I want on the MXP under new Verizon unlimited I might part ways with my granfathered udp simply because of pricing.

emimbs said:
Now that it has been a full month can anyone confirm this? If I can tether all I want on the MXP under new Verizon unlimited I might part ways with my granfathered udp simply because of pricing.
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I'm at about 20gb and don't reset for a week. I haven't tethered this month at all, but I'm curious what will happen when I hit 22gb and attempt to tether. Will I get 3G or 4 G speeds? I'll find out this week...

28 GB of data used MetroPCS and no issues ?.
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I tethered about 14gb last month and the tethering was still at LTE speeds after the advertised 10gb.
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I'm at 24.2 GB this month (resets tomorrow) and tried tethering to the iPad. And I got 8 Mbps, which is about what I get normally on my phone at my house.
"Unlimited" tethering on the MXPE + VZW!

I wanted to follow up on this thread. I am able to tether successfully, however my tethered usage is still classified as "hot spot data". Are you guys still successfully hiding your tether usage on Verizon's new unlimited data plan? What, if any, modifications have you done to your mxpe to achieve this? I am rooted on stock firmware and have tried adding net.tethering.noprovisioning=true to the build file, adding the dun=0 through the adb shell, VPN's, and FoxFi and nothing seems to hide my tethered usage. Are you using your wifi hotspot or USB tethering? Thanks.

Its tracked by Verizon. Trust me ive seen it happen to me, on x1575 and with a pixel phone. I'm on Verizon unlimited and use the tether when I'm on the road. I can tell when they throttle me back.

It there still unlimited tethering on TW as of this date ? I am looking for a new prepaid plan
Thanks

Total Wireless on the Pure Edition: excellence
muelo1000 said:
It there still unlimited tethering on TW as of this date ? I am looking for a new prepaid plan
Thanks
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Total Wireless lacks unlimited data plans, so there's no "unlimited" tethering, but there is no additional limitation beyond the standard data cap while tethering.

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Its tracked by Verizon. Trust me ive seen it happen to me, on x1575 and with a pixel phone. I'm on Verizon unlimited and use the tether when I'm on the road. I can tell when they throttle me back.
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I know that tethered usage is tracked, that is the reason I am following up on this post. Most of the posts prior to this were all people who sounded like they were successfully getting around Verizon tracking their tethering usage. I wanted to see if any of them are still successful at getting around the tethering tracking. I will ask again...is anyone who posted here previously still able to use tethering without data cap limitations? And if so, what is your setup to do this? Thanks.

I can confirm my Grandfathered Unlimited Data plan is still unlimited lol
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