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HD2 at launch - need advice!

Hello all..long time android user here (G1 User), and I'm going to be buying 2 HD2's come the 24th (BOGO!!)...now, question is - what are the chances of seeing Android running on this beautiful device?
I know WM6.5 is a stable/mature operating system, unfortunately I'm very used to the Android UI, but would love to have the HD2's drool-inducing hardware (as opposed to say, a Nexus One) running 2.1 or higher.
I feel odd buying a new device that already reached the end of its development road (software-wise), and seeing as Android is frequently updated for/improved..well there's not much contest
Thanks!

Check the Android development thread, in the ROM development section.

foyaeman said:
Hello all..long time android user here (G1 User), and I'm going to be buying 2 HD2's come the 24th (BOGO!!)...now, question is - what are the chances of seeing Android running on this beautiful device?
I know WM6.5 is a stable/mature operating system, unfortunately I'm very used to the Android UI, but would love to have the HD2's drool-inducing hardware (as opposed to say, a Nexus One) running 2.1 or higher.
I feel odd buying a new device that already reached the end of its development road (software-wise), and seeing as Android is frequently updated for/improved..well there's not much contest
Thanks!
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It'll be atleast a year before there's a nearly fully functional Android... few months probably before theres a basic port we can begin to play with.

zarathustrax said:
It'll be atleast a year before there's a nearly fully functional Android... few months probably before theres a basic port we can begin to play with.
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Whats the hang up?

~~Tito~~ said:
Whats the hang up?
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hardware. supersonic will help

~~Tito~~ said:
Whats the hang up?
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I assume it's a difficult task to accomplish.

Anyone know what to say when you want to do the bogo deal? I cant wait to get this phone!

~~Tito~~ said:
Anyone know what to say when you want to do the bogo deal? I cant wait to get this phone!
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Say you want the bogo deal. You need to have 2 lines to get it.

~~Tito~~ said:
Anyone know what to say when you want to do the bogo deal? I cant wait to get this phone!
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You need to either start 2 new lines with the 25$/Month smartphone data plan, or have two fully eligible lines for upgrade.

Claims of WP7 from Tom_Codon march 2010

Well were coming up to to the month milestone of when Tom dropped the news of having WP7 running on his HD2.
I know I will get flamed for this, but I am niave and a part of me still despite no real proof being given, is hoping.
It would be great if we got some news/proof at the end of this month.
Seg

da_g and chainfire have stated this exists....
that's plenty of proof in my book imho

please people, let it go....nobody was gonna get wp7 on the hd2 before the news and so there is no difference if it was all a lie...
that said, i do belive in it, reputable people have said its true. just enjoy the damn device and when wp7 comes, it will come, and i would like to see a thread with all the non belivers apologising

I know some good reputable ppl have clearly stated that its true. I am not doubting them for a minute. I personally expected to hear or see something else since the initial statement. I do enjoy my device, I just love trying new things.
The conversation surrounding this, had died a little lately, so I thought I would spark up some more interesting conversation/debate.
Seg

Seg2009 said:
I know some good reputable ppl have clearly stated that its true. I am not doubting them for a minute. I personally expected to hear or see something else since the initial statement. I do enjoy my device, I just love trying new things.
The conversation surrounding this, had died a little lately, so I thought I would spark up some more interesting conversation/debate.
Seg
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Thats my oppinion.. but seems there is nothing you can do besides wait.
Cheers

chris5932 said:
Thats my oppinion.. but seems there is nothing you can do besides wait.
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I know mate. Thats the hardest part, waiting. Even more so, with no more information.
Seg

Seg2009 said:
I know mate. Thats the hardest part, waiting. Even more so, with no more information.
Seg
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I do feel the same way, totaly
It's in a way like christmas when I was young besides.. you knew when it would be
// I btw don't think this is leading us anywhere..

But thats just it, how can you EXPECT something from somebody when they dont owe you anything? you can expect customer service from HTC, or expect an official statement from HTC about wp7 (which we got), but you cant expect news about someones personal project...you arent paying them, they are doing it out the kindness of the heart and the passion they have for this phone...
well thats my opinion for example...i fix my friend's and family's computers from time to time for no charge. nobody can expect me to fix it in any reasonable time frame, nor even even expect it to be fixed at all, even if i say i can. if they do, then its really unnappretiative and its quite hurtful. alot of people did ***** about the videos of wp7 on the hd2, if it was me, i wouldnt even bother giving it to anyone, just on the fact that so many people grinded me down about it.

domineus said:
da_g and chainfire have stated this exists....
that's plenty of proof in my book imho
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I know that there is written record of da_g saying that. Is there one for Chainfire also? I thought that was just an unrecorded chat.

the_cool said:
But thats just it, how can you EXPECT something from somebody when they dont owe you anything? you can expect customer service from HTC, or expect an official statement from HTC about wp7 (which we got), but you cant expect news about someones personal project...you arent paying them, they are doing it out the kindness of the heart and the passion they have for this phone...
well thats my opinion for example...i fix my friend's and family's computers from time to time for no charge. nobody can expect me to fix it in any reasonable time frame, nor even even expect it to be fixed at all, even if i say i can. if they do, then its really unnappretiative and its quite hurtful. alot of people did ***** about the videos of wp7 on the hd2, if it was me, i wouldnt even bother giving it to anyone, just on the fact that so many people grinded me down about it.
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I think you have mis-interpreted my use of the the word "Expected" by this I meant "Hoped" or "Thought"
I do agree with you though, they don't owe us anything, and after the slagging off that some guys gave them, I would say F off to everyone.
Seg

ah ok, well yeh one can hope for it, thats all good! even i hope for it! well actually i dunno, when they said wp6 and wm6.5 isnt interchangeable made me decide not to go with wp7. but still, id love to see it! but even if they lied (which i keep stressing i dont think they are!), i wouldnt think less of them, none of us are really gettin affected and we have got alot from them anyway with wm6.5

ozkaya said:
I know that there is written record of da_g saying that. Is there one for Chainfire also? I thought that was just an unrecorded chat.
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yeah I asked him last week in a podcast he visited on ppcgeeks...said a lot including a test rom for tg01 which also makes a lot of sense. I've said on htcpedia that I wouldn't be surprised the devices we see in the fall are very similar to devices released LAST year with minor improvements in hardware (if that)
If the htc touch hd2 and the g01 were the true test devices that wp7 was based on, then as a developer I'd just go hey why do I need to make a new device? Use the old internals and I have a wp7 device. I think for early devices that's what is going to happen but again that's just my speculation on htc and toshiba. Dell et al probably have devices built from the ground up...
I mean I want to try wp7 too and its looking better and more fluid every single day that gives me hope that microsoft has made a better "coded" os that when unlocked will actually be more open than the devices we have right now. To get to that point will take time, but that's what xda is for. I mean zune hd is hacked, I expect wp7 to be hacked too. just depends on time and devices
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hoping this conversation remains civil because so far no flames no claims of it was publicity and I said on htcpedia again why does a site like that need publicity it averages in US daytime 250 members per hour! late night 125! a site like that doesn't need real advertising.
We can't say its an april fool either that's come and gone. so the only other logical outcome is that it exists there are some issues (lo and behold tom said there were graphics issues)
so I am waiting enjoying wp 6.5

Does anyone actually know Tom or Da_G or ITJE? Could they ask them for an update? Anything is better than nothing.
Seg

Seg2009 said:
Does anyone actually know Tom or Da_G or ITJE? Could they ask them for an update? Anything is better than nothing.
Seg
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I asked Itje a while ago, he doesn't know anything and told me that it is all up to tom and his team.
Cheers

chris5932 said:
I asked Itje a while ago, he doesn't know anything and told me that it is all up to tom and his team.
Cheers
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I sent tom a message through pedia site, but he never got back to me, but there again, why would he? he doesn't know me from Adam.
Seg

Seg2009 said:
I sent tom a message through pedia site, but he never got back to me, but there again, why would he? he doesn't know me from Adam.
Seg
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I don't think your the only one who did so, myb hes still working down the list
Tom is the guy this is about.. no information from him or his team -> no information at all.. thats what is seems to be like
Since I don't know anyone to talk to him or one of his team members close, we can only wait and any disscusion is senseless.
Cheers

I just don't see the draw towards WM7. I stopped using the iPhone because the locked down environment... even after jailbreaking. WM6.5 w/ Sense is the BEST OS and GUI that I've used on a phone. It has usability elements while retaining the functionality of WM. It seems to me that M$ is moving backwards.

invalid_character said:
I just don't see the draw towards WM7. I stopped using the iPhone because the locked down environment... even after jailbreaking. WM6.5 w/ Sense is the BEST OS and GUI that I've used on a phone. It has usability elements while retaining the functionality of WM. It seems to me that M$ is moving backwards.
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Im with you 100% on that statement. I feel like M$ is turning into Apple.

I don't understand why you are talking like this actually..
Sure, WP7 is locked down OS with many disadvantages, I agree with that!
BUT it brings lots of new features and its going to have full flash support etc.
it's not all bad.. basically this whole thing is not part of this discussion!
This is about WP7 on hd2 which was claimed to be real by tom.
Cheers

Apart from the HD2 WP7 exists/doesn't exist...
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I don't get why there isn't any news from tom_codon or any other people and why they aren't releasing it..
Sincerely, I'm not understanding why tom_codon gave the news of WP7 on HD2.
I mean... okay, WP7 HD2 ROM does exist, noone apart tom_codon and some other people has got it, but why are you saying to all that it does exist if you can't/don't want to release it?
It's not so mature and smart in a community where all is shared and that lives on the ROM sharing to say "I've got WP7! But you won't get it! Hah!!"........ am I wrong?

Newer Nexus One's to feature HTC's new maxTouch technology?

Do you think it'll happen? There has been rumors floating around about it.

Doubt it.
Where are the rumours from? here?

Damn the title got me excited. Well I sure hope so because I was planning on ordering a nexus one in 41 days when i'm 22 months into my t-mobile contract. Could you please link us to a news article that talks about this. Thanks

I was on someone else's computer and don't have the link for it though. Sorry.

Id sell this and buy a new one.

Android Touch said:
I was on someone else's computer and don't have the link for it though. Sorry.
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Well I went searching on google and I didn't see anything close to what this title suggests. I'm refering to rumors too. Oh well =(

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There has been rumors floating around about it.
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No there haven't.

well... technically he just started one

I don't know if the newer batch of Nexus One will have this new feature/digitizer technology, but endgadget did mentioned that HTC droid incredible does uses this new technology.

that would blow

"People wildly speculating on these forms" != "There has been rumors floating around about it"

Haven't seen a single word about this aside from this thread.

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that would blow
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Why would that blow? How can anyone expect the hardware world not to continue evolving. There will always be something better than what you have... if you have the best right now, something is about to come out that beats it. You can't expect that new technology in an embedded device, such as a phone, will take the place of older technology used in current generation devices.
There is no reason to believe that HTC is going to change their manufacturing process for the Nexus One, or any of their currently released phones. The new technology will be in place for NEW devices, it would be quite odd for them to just start making Nexus Ones with different hardware simply because that hardware exists in the new devices they are manufacturing.

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Not when you can still say "warranty exchange."

Actually, judging by how fast google goes through versions and software (look at Chrome browser, already at 4.0 or 5.0), google is probably already testing Nexus Two. That thing'll probably have new screen.
They got a contract with current screen manufacturer, I bet they won't worry about switching now.

Google shows that this is the start of this rumor....

zachthemaster said:
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No it wouldn't. What would blow is if advancements stopped.

faraz1992 said:
Google shows that this is the start of this rumor....
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Lmao.
For some reason I believe this a stupid question. The bashing and returns that would occur after this change, and the complaints and people maybe even wanting their money back would be so gradual it would cause a bad costly uproar.
People would form small not needed hate groups, make *****y blog post about how Google somehow "scamed" customers, Google's name would be flamed harshly by people who want attention. I could just imagine this happening..

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No it wouldn't. What would blow is if advancements stopped.
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ya, it would blow if they implemented this "new technology" on a phone thats already out.
kinda like what they did with the myTouch. they add a 3.5mm jack?? thats lame because all the people who own the phone previous to this launch now want that phone but cant get it because they just bought the other version like two months earlier (and just in case you take this literally I'M GENERALIZING)
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Not when you can still say "warranty exchange."
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i agree with you...
daveid said:
Why would that blow? How can anyone expect the hardware world not to continue evolving. There will always be something better than what you have... if you have the best right now, something is about to come out that beats it. You can't expect that new technology in an embedded device, such as a phone, will take the place of older technology used in current generation devices.
There is no reason to believe that HTC is going to change their manufacturing process for the Nexus One, or any of their currently released phones. The new technology will be in place for NEW devices, it would be quite odd for them to just start making Nexus Ones with different hardware simply because that hardware exists in the new devices they are manufacturing.
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jesus christ. thank you so much for your pointless reply. I'm not an idiot, I'm saying that IT WOULD SUCK ON MY BALLSACK if they put NEWER technology on a phone that is already ON THE SHELVES.
You all take things way too seriously/literally so calm the **** down and overlook my post if you feel like you should waste your dumb energy replying to it.

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jesus christ. thank you so much for your pointless reply. I'm not an idiot, I saying that IT WOULD SUCK ON MY BALLSACK if they put NEWER technology on a phone that is already ON THE SHELVES.
You all take things way too seriously/literally so calm the **** down and overlook my post if you feel like you should waste your dumb energy replying to it.
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I wish I could give you a cup of Froyo to calm you down. ;-)
I completely agree though. Some people talk out of their butt sometimes.

Why is HTC protecting wildfire so much

After the release of the wildfire it took a unusual amount of time to root and now the hboot has been changed to prevent rooting I ask the question why the consumer should have the right to run roms that suits them best I refer to geohotz jailbreak with the iPhone
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To sell newer products, thats why.

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To sell newer products, thats why.
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yeah i agree, they want to sell you newer devices with new android versions. they must also be pretty mad about the hacked app markets

Its the solemn duty p) of a company to protect its products. No product I believe has a weak security system, and, its always a cat and mouse game between the devs and the company devs. Be it iOS, Symbian, Game Consoles.. etc.
No one likes to see their product "hacked" and to be used in a manner better than it was intended to.

As far as I know the Nokia N900 and LiMo devices are very open to hacking, very much unlike Android, webOS and iOS phones.

Why would anyone protect their properties

Also maybe cos they were planning for Gingerbread release on the Wildfire, and by then they want all devices to be hackproof or something.. jus maybe..

It's to keep idiots out.
Look around the forum and look at the amount of "OMG I BRICKD DAT WILDFIRE CUZ I FLASHED TEH ROMS PLZ HALP" posts.
Apple always try to find a way against jailbreaking aswell.

Alex_GP said:
To sell newer products, thats why.
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Anyone who posts a reason other than this is very naive.

I'll give you a reason.. It's because their support teams couldn't cope with the amount of idiots they'd get phoning them saying that their phone wasn't working anymore after they'd made a complete bodge of modding it.. Just like the guy above said..
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Anyone who posts a reason other than this is very naive.
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Exactly, their cash flows in from the devices they sell. If they support old products, they won`t sell new devices, so no cash.

Skye Menjou said:
It's to keep idiots out.
Look around the forum and look at the amount of "OMG I BRICKD DAT WILDFIRE CUZ I FLASHED TEH ROMS PLZ HALP" posts.
Apple always try to find a way against jailbreaking aswell.
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Fair point.

but they knows that if device is such superb, someone sometime find the way to get in...
its all about offer and demand..
and yes - every year new toy.. forget to previous and go forward...
thats the consume way of life.

Alex_GP said:
To sell newer products, thats why.
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I think so...

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Second that.

People really ought to make sure they know what they are a\doing before they start messing around with technology and if they don't then they should leave it, the amount of posts i've seen on here about bricked wildfires is unreal

Petem661 said:
People really ought to make sure they know what they are a\doing before they start messing around with technology and if they don't then they should leave it, the amount of posts i've seen on here about bricked wildfires is unreal
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But if they wouldn't lock the wildfire, the chance of getting your device bricked will be lower in my oppinion. The chance that a procedure fails is directly correlated with the amount of steps, and just because the phone is that locked, people have to do 1. a multitude of steps that 2. don't use software of the phone in the way its develloped to be used -> chance to brick your phone.
Compare it to a computer: ever bricked it because you wanted to install an new OS?
Erwin

That is true
Now, I want to change the phone, because I can't flash rom.
I think HD2 is a good.

HTC is not protecting wildfire so much.
They just want to check, how good team UNREVOKED is.
Or if they are better than similar product cracking team -> greenpois0n on apple iphone 4.2.1.

Me and my HTC:Wildfire "bee" xD trust in you UNREVOKED!
Is there any idea to downgrade?

Hope DFT does mango for us after how yuki

Says they suck they were probably were waiting mango before they start doing what they do
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What's the point of this thread...delete!
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I hope someone, anyone does mango for our HD2's. I don't care who it is, DFT or Yuki, as long as we can get it. I'm glad to have both working on our phones!

http://youtu.be/OP30F3ZxTmw
i cant wait i hope some one does it soon, i wish i could

Don't wait after DFT, they were working on lot of phones: Now we have no news of them.
I don't like very much the way they work: all closed source, no eta.
However we can thanks them for all they were doing for us, at the beginning. But now I must admit I'm a little disappointed
Yuki is working with community and to my mind, this way is much better.

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Says they suck they were probably were waiting mango before they start doing what they do
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You're such a BOOB!!!! If not for Yuki, we wouldn't even have Nodo and the enhancements!!! So shut the hell up and just say thanks and go on your way!!!!!!!
DFT abandoned WP7 development after the initial release!!!! Besides, you signature says you're still on WM6.5...what a loser!!!

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You're such a BOOB!!!! If not for Yuki, we wouldn't even have Nodo and the enhancements!!! So shut the hell up and just say thanks and go on your way!!!!!!!
DFT abandoned WP7 development after the initial release!!!! Besides, you signature says you're still on WM6.5...what a loser!!!
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Are you serious, mate?
Giving such a rude answer to something you personally don´t like gives proof for only one thing: That you don´t have style, nor "netiquette".
This actually is what I would call "loser", but normally I don´t write it - postings like yours don´t deserve any attention.
Grow up, and get a real life.

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What's the point of this thread...delete!
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At least he posted in Q&A lol

tictac0566 said:
Are you serious, mate?
Giving such a rude answer to something you personally don´t like gives proof for only one thing: That you don´t have style, nor "netiquette".
This actually is what I would call "loser", but normally I don´t write it - postings like yours don´t deserve any attention.
Grow up, and get a real life.
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he has a habbit of doing that, just whatever you do, dont make any grammer or spelling mistakes or he'll take the piss out of that too.

tictac0566 said:
Are you serious, mate?
Giving such a rude answer to something you personally don´t like gives proof for only one thing: That you don´t have style, nor "netiquette".
This actually is what I would call "loser", but normally I don´t write it - postings like yours don´t deserve any attention.
Grow up, and get a real life.
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If it doesn't deserve your attention then why respond? Just asking...

rwholden said:
If it doesn't deserve your attention then why respond? Just asking...
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its always more fun to talk about someone rather than too them
responding to the issue but not joining them in a debate, ie, ignoring them whilst we carry on