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I know there are people who love sense/rosie, I used to be one of them. But the more I use my phone, the more I find myself just wanting it cut down a bit and more streamlined..
I have no need for facebook or twitter, htc mail widgets etc.
The only things I see value in are the dialer, pinch to zoom in the browser and the music controls on the lock screen..
I have found myself setting 'home' as the default on most of my ROM's and having everything go fast, but I can't help thinking it could be even better..
I am fine with 3 to 5 home screens, no need for leap..
Just a lightning fast, stable build with no bloat or social crap..
Am I alone in wanting this?
TJ
For all the Dev's, you are doing AWESOME work, I love playing with all the ROM's and sincerely appreciate your time and effort. I know the masses want rosie, but there are a large number of people who aren't the majority
Honestly, I really like the HTC Friendstream and/or Twitter widget, but I can do without them. One thing I would miss is the HTC camera, but I found out today that it's been ported to the Nexus One, so I don't see why we couldn't get the HTC Camera in a vanilla Hero ROM.
I've noticed (using Villain 5.0, aka the 2.1 Sprint Hero ROM) that if I'm listening to music and using google navigation, the music skips sometimes, mostly when the GPS app is calculating something. I figure getting rid of Sense might fix this by freeing up some RAM.
So, as long as we can get the HTC Camera into a vanilla ROM (and maybe that's already been done... anyone?), then yes, I would rather use a vanilla ROM.
With a vanilla ROM we should also be able to use voice dialing, right? Since we'd be using the google dialer instead of the HTC one?
Save Heros from sense.
I really don't like sense and hate the thought of having to return to it for a stable phone... the stock android experience is what I want on the my Hero.
I am a developer and do know Java well but I don't have much time to dive into Android although I have started. I have the sdk, eclipse, and the source synced and started looking at the code.
I know we are waiting for HTC to release updated kernel sources and to get our hands on stable drivers but I would like to get Gallery3D and Launcher 2 working
It's a shame that I have this tease... a 80% stable phone using aHero v0.6.1 but the phone still locks up and reboot randomly... this could have a lot to do with the kernel and drivers.
Gallery3D used to work in both landscape and Portrait on Android 2.0
Not sure if this is Google dropping support or bad drivers but I have had Google Earth running on this Hero too.
Launcher2 is actually faster then launcher but it seems to swap out of memory or something when the phone sleeps and takes a few seconds to wake up.
I will try and look at the code more but I'm hoping some very skilled Android Hero guru will save the Hero and get us up and running %100 in the next months.
i support the notion for a vanila rom. sense is nice, but truthfully, i am a fan of the stock android gui. for some, its clunky. for me, i can work around it. i feel the phone would be more of a true enthusiast's phone with the stock OS, and sense tries to well..(no pun intended) make sense for people new to having a phone.
HTC is doing a great job making android phones appealing, but the way android OS looked prior to sense was what appealed me to it in the first place...something unique, one that is sort of minimalistic yet packs a lot of options for an end-user. I find HTC's widgets beautiful but slow. And in a phone, i'd rather have zip to make an emergency phone call rather than a cool UI soaking up the resources to display the weather. thats not to say i don't like cute little things like that, though. just have the speed first, optimize and incorporate later. 1.5 did well, and 2.1 really makes android very nice, keeping its simplicity and making subtle yet elegant additions.
2.1 stock rom based from these leaks pls =3
It's good to see i'm not alone..
I agree that once the new kernel comes out I think it will be much easier to get a fully functional stock 2.1 happening..
I have used raidroid 2.1 and I was VERY impressed with the speed, but all that makes me think is how it could be even faster!
I just like the idea of a business like experience.. No bull****, just do what you are built to do.
I'm pretty keen to see a fast stock rom as well. I already use the stock keyboard because of its speed and I was using Launcher2 for a while, but it was too buggy.
But really, more then anything I want a fast, stable build to run with.
The only thing I think it would really miss is the music player controls on the lock screen, but I think they could do with some work.... not fast enough at the moment, the same goes with unlocking to answer a phone call, it all seems to take too long.
agree
aHero 0.61 is good, but still a bit buggy
im not a fan of the sense bloatware approach
I'm currently working on a rom that pretty much fits these requirements.
CyanogenMod based (this may change due to video playback issues), JIT enabled, and after an initial release, I may try and integrate drivers from the CDMA 2.1 roms.
Oh, and it won't have Sense (inefficient and ineffective), Launcher2, Live Wallpapers or any of the rest of that superfluous crap.
I would love to see a stable build of a vanilla rom...everytime one is released i flash right away but theres always a major bug that push me to sense roms again.
I even like the android camera,mostly in poor light conditions.
The music control in lockscreen is nice but not nice enough to make it a setback...
All the social widgets(twitter,facebook,mail,buzz,etc.) can be found in market for free...many of them better then HTC ones.
Genie widgets can do weather and news(I use them in sense roms)
If ppl dont like android calendar widget,"smooth calendar" is similar to HTC calendar(to me is much better) and free.
And thats what makes vanilla rom so good,i only install this apk if i want to or need it...my phone,my rules.
yeah i would love one!
I also hate seeing SocialNetworkReciever firing up all the time in logcat when my phone is asleep when I have no accounts for fb, twitter and flickr..
*SocialNetworkReciever is being called every 5 mins! Even after removing peep!
Just like any OS on whatever device. It should be basic and fast.
+1 for Vanilla.
I very much prefer the vanilla Android experience over Sense. For me Sense adds nothing but bugs and bloat and also a few Android features I like are missing in HTC Android.
I would like one as well. Currently I am just stripping everything from someone's custom rom, perhaps I should try the Kitchen that's available to make my own 2.1, based on AOSP.
Yep, i'm on board. A 2.1 Vanilla ROM, possibly with Multi-Touch in the Browser, Touch Focus in the Camera and the HTC dialler would be perfect.
I loved the aychteesee rom for this reason. at the time it was the fastest around for the hero. shame it never got updated, there were one or two bugs that pushed me back to sense.
It makes sense to install an os with very few features on, as we have the Market! I really don't find any htc widget/app that performs better than a Market place counterpart. Just look at Camera Zoom FX.
Best Vanilla Rom
Hi all,
I've tried lots of ROMs and I must say that Kagudroid 1.2.2 is by far the best. It is vanilla Android and it is faster, more stable, less buggy than any other ROM. The only drawback was that the camera was unstable, but now there is a fix for that in the post on Htcpedia.com (http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1979)
Try it, it's the difference you're looking for!
I really want a stock fast vanilla rom.. Going to try this kagudroid.. Let's se how it is
Taijohnsen said:
I know there are people who love sense/rosie, I used to be one of them. But the more I use my phone, the more I find myself just wanting it cut down a bit and more streamlined..
I have no need for facebook or twitter, htc mail widgets etc.
The only things I see value in are the dialer, pinch to zoom in the browser and the music controls on the lock screen..
I have found myself setting 'home' as the default on most of my ROM's and having everything go fast, but I can't help thinking it could be even better..
I am fine with 3 to 5 home screens, no need for leap..
Just a lightning fast, stable build with no bloat or social crap..
Am I alone in wanting this?
TJ
For all the Dev's, you are doing AWESOME work, I love playing with all the ROM's and sincerely appreciate your time and effort. I know the masses want rosie, but there are a large number of people who aren't the majority
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I don't think this is the right part of the hero threads for your Christmas wish list, mayee the Q&A section. Try picking a Rom that's already close to what you require and giving feedback
Would love one, too!
<3 Google / Android 4 Life ;-)
Now I know they don't have 4G but everything works with Sense. Can we get this ported?
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Is it really nessecary? Ava-FroyoV2 already has Sense and everything but BT and 4G working. I would expect it to be more work to port this than just have Ava fix BT and have basically the same.
Given the similarities between the Evo and Inc, the 2.2 update should be right around the corner. Also remember that Verizon is notorious for long testing before a software update.
Having said that, I'm sure a Dev will figure out a way to port this over.
But we already have CyanogenMod with everything but 4G working.
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The advantage of using the Incredible's 2.2 over the current 2.2 Sense that we have is that it will work better with what we have. The other one we have is for the Desire. So, for instance, the camera may work better. If it has a newer kernel we may be able to use that, etc. So, yeah, I'd say it would be worth porting over. Either way, I'm sticking with CM6 as I have missed Cyanogen since my days with the G1.
Well I suppose we'll have to wait again for the new kernel's source code, hopefully it doesn't take as long this time.
There is more issues with that rom then those listed, for example exchange doesn't setup correctly
trogdor182 said:
Is it really nessecary? Ava-FroyoV2 already has Sense and everything but BT and 4G working. I would expect it to be more work to port this than just have Ava fix BT and have basically the same.
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I would like to see a port of it. I like the Stock look with the speed under the hood.
Is it an unpopular opinion to actually like SenseUI around here? I vastly prefer Sense over the stock UI, TouchWiz and MotoBlur.
Unfortunately, since CyanogenMod has just about everything working, the only real improvements for the EVO that could be pulled out of the Droid Incredible's code is the FM radio, assuming they're even the same chip(which, without doing some research, I highly doubt).
From what I have seen and played with Sense is pretty nice, but I really like the look/feel of ADW.Launcher and Stock apps myself.
To each their own.
Although an official HTC Release of 2.2 would be interesting to see performance wise.
I like sense as well but I am not married to it, but I don't see why all the hate
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Sense has some really good apps like music and email. Don't argue with me about music app. It is by far the smoothest and streamed lined music player for android. Even froyo music is a piece of crap. Google really need to work on the music players for Android. iPhone and.most likely the Zune based Windows Mobile 7 music player are/will be vastly superior.
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Sense isn't bad, but it's not as useful for me. There are maybe one or two widgets that I'd like to have, but with all the other bulkiness it's not worth it. Like the 3 button dock. I'd much rather have the ADW where I can put 4 shortcuts plus the drawer. Once I tried CM6, I don't think I can go back to Sense.
It's all about preference.
The only thing I liked about Sense was the Mail/Exchange app. At least it gave me the option to select and delete multiple items at a time. With the current e-mail app (Froyo) i have to "tick" each e-mail, kinda tedious when you have over a hundren e-mails you want to delete at a time.
I don't plan on flashing a 2.2 rom until I know 4g works. I'd rather be able to use the service I'm paying for.
cosine83 said:
Is it an unpopular opinion to actually like SenseUI around here? I vastly prefer Sense over the stock UI, TouchWiz and MotoBlur.
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Sense is just a pretty pointless bit of eyecandy that vastly slows down updates received by HTC phones. It is completely tangled up in the OS, and it just slows things down and provides very limited customization due to its closed-source nature. AOSP Android is extremely fast and smooth, and you are free to add all of the eyecandy and additional apps you want.
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Sense is just a pretty pointless bit of eyecandy that vastly slows down updates received by HTC phones. It is completely tangled up in the OS, and it just slows things down and provides very limited customization due to its closed-source nature. AOSP Android is extremely fast and smooth, and you are free to add all of the eyecandy and additional apps you want.
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While I do agree with you, I really wish there were Marketplace equivalents of some of the HTC widgets (Email, Bookmarks, and NewsReader in particular). Pure Messenger is the closest I've found to the HTC email widget but after spending an inordinate amount of time trying to get it set up the way I like, I gave up. And, don't get me started on my K9/Exchange integration issues.
And, I'm a geek! I can only imagine the frustration the average non-techie, Android owner without a Sense phone goes through.
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While I do agree with you, I really wish there were Marketplace equivalents of some of the HTC widgets (Email, Bookmarks, and NewsReader in particular). Pure Messenger is the closest I've found to the HTC email widget but after spending an inordinate amount of time trying to get it set up the way I like, I gave up. And, don't get me started on my K9/Exchange integration issues.
And, I'm a geek! I can only imagine the frustration the average non-techie, Android owner without a Sense phone goes through.
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Well final-damn-ly, somebody without their head stuck up their ass realizes this lol. But really, they did a good job with the widgets and to me are worth more than the hassles i have to put up with. And don't forget copy/paste; stock google's is the most godawful take on copypasta i've ever seen. While I've gotten used to launcher pro plus, returning back to sense would definitely be a welcome home for me.
I agree that Sense, although a resource hog, has the best widgets. Just wish I could use wiimote.
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Hi,
I have recently rooted my Magic 32A and installed CM5.0.8, which I'm happy with after stock Android 1.5 but I was wondering...
Is CM6 RC3 going to improve the performance of some of the apps because of the Java acceleration? Is it stable enough to try?
Anybody can suggest a better keyboard that I could use...default Android one is not that great.
Thanks!
Smart Keyboard is freaking awesome, but it's not free. It's $2.53 in the market.
As for CM6. I've tried all three RC's plus a random few nightlies, and it's always been slower than 5.0.8. Seems to lag anytime I'm switching betweens programs, flicking through the home screens, etc. Doesn't seem to be too bad while actually running applications, just a pain in the butt to get them going.
With that being said, don't take my word for it. The easiest way to find out is to make a Nandroid backup, flash CM6, and if you don't like it, just restore your Nandroid backup.
Thanks DonJuan692006! I really value the opinion of people who have tried it before me.
I was thinking CM6 should be faster...but maybe it's not because it's still RC.
As for the keyboard I would buy the one you suggested (actually never bought anything on Android yet so I'm curious of the process), but my question is...is that better than Swype? What are the advantages of Smart Keyboard? I think I found some other ones to buy too...
Smart keyboard for me is just a millions times more responsive than the Android keyboard. It also compensates for people who's fingers are bigger than the keys better. I know there are other keyboards available but I bought it based off the reviews.
Swype was really accurate when I was using it, but I found that right after I would clean the screen it was really too hard to drag my finger across the screen and even got to the point that my thumb would start to hurt. I quit using it all together once that started happening. But its all a matter of opinion. The good thing is that everything you buy in the market can be refunded within 24 hours, so just grab it first thing in the morning and use it through the day. If you don't like it, get a refund. I've done it for several apps in the past.
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i think the problem lies within the launcher. No matter what kind of launcher you use, it still not fast like the stock launcher from 1.6 donut. Thats the real problem. Why do we have to look the same to Nexus One? Can anyone here create a simpliest rom with almost no addition-ware (i.e. launcher and gallery 3d), see if it improve performance and battery? lets make a petition shall we
I have installed CM6 it is runnung a bit faster,but as it was said those few bugs with luncher are not really problems for me,it is great.But ofc there is a battery comsuption problem it is leeching your battery
Cyanogen mod Rom:
Pro:
-fast in terms of browsing through the menus and such (IE not lagging AT ALL when I scroll down hundreds of .apk files I have on my SD card)
-barebone ROM ready for customization (void of many apps the stock ROM and Virtuous ROM comes with)
Cons:
-lack of installed programs (had to install Android Market separately for goodness sakes)
-lack of flashiness (not as sexy as Sense Rom)
-much slower bootup time
Virtuous
Pro:
-sexier interface (HTC Sense)
-faster shutdown and bootup time (3 seconds and 2 seconds respectively)
-a lot more apps preinstalled
Cons:
-a bit sluggish when browsing through apps and such (IE trying to scroll through 100+ apps on your SD card)
There you have it folks. The completely subjective guide to these two ROMS.
This should be a good starter for Android noobs like I was two weeks ago when I first got the phone.
These two ROMS have little tweaks and mods that the stock ROM does not have that honestly go over my head but is suppose to give performance enhancements and streamline various processes.
Reason people use CM is because it is like the Google Chrome of internet browers; it is lightning fast.
Reason people use Virtuous is because it is more user friendly. You don't have to spend so much time researching where to download GAPPS and flash it with ROM manager like you would if you use CM.
I personally used the Virtuous ROM when I first started out, and I just moved to the CM ROM today once I got the hang of things.
Stock CM homescreen was kind of dull and unappealing so I downloaded Launcher Pro and downloaded customized docks for it, and now it looks pretty damn sexy.
That's just my two cents on these things.
I have CM RC3 w/ launcher pro. I find that at times when going back to my homescreen the widgets lag about a second or two behind. When I used sence on the device it would lag a lot. I would pull down the status bar and I had to wait for it to pull down, that's why I made the jump to CM. I really enjoy CM and have cut back on the widgets to prevent a lag.
Edit: CM has a separate zip with all the Google apps like market so OP I don't see why that would be a con. CM builds also have trackpad wake built in.
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Great starting point on a comparison guide.
However, how is the CM Rom "Barebone"..? It has many features over stock and destroys any other build I have ever seen on any phone to date. The lack of Google apps was from an order by Google to not include any Google apps in roms. That is why there is the Gapps.zip located where the download is for the CM Roms.
I personally hate sense user interface since I like to have a single blank screen besides a clock widget and a pacman wallpaper. No app drawer Icon since i use flick up to open the drawer.
That reminds me.
I forgot to mention that my G2 is overclocked to about 1.2 ghz and I have 1 calendar widget, 1 SetCPU widget, and 3 app shortcuts. That's it.
Overclocking works wonders, for those of you who wonder if overclocking has appreciable differences or not.
danielefeldt said:
Great starting point on a comparison guide.
However, how is the CM Rom "Barebone"..? It has many features over stock and destroys any other build I have ever seen on any phone to date. The lack of Google apps was from an order by Google to not include any Google apps in roms. That is why there is the Gapps.zip located where the download is for the CM Roms.
I personally hate sense user interface since I like to have a single blank screen besides a clock widget and a pacman wallpaper. No app drawer Icon since i use flick up to open the drawer.
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I suppose everyone has their own taste. Some people like to load their screens full of random ass widgets. Some people like it simple and have a clean homescreen. Others compromise between the two (like me)
And your point is duly noted.
ddgarcia05 said:
I have CM RC3 w/ launcher pro. I find that at times when going back to my homescreen the widgets lag about a second or two behind. When I used sence on the device it would lag a lot. I would pull down the status bar and I had to wait for it to pull down, that's why I made the jump to CM. I really enjoy CM and have cut back on the widgets to prevent a lag.
Edit: CM has a separate zip with all the Google apps like market so OP I don't see why that would be a con. CM builds also have trackpad wake built in.
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Yes it is a setting you have to enable under Cyanogenmod settings...
danielefeldt said:
Yes it is a setting you have to enable under Cyanogenmod settings...
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duly noted.
Also Sense UI takes up quite a bit more memory and it shows in benchmarks and in high end applications.
CM is stripped down so you can add items you want to add to it such as transitions and other UI tweaks with out having all the bloat of Sense UI.
Sense UI is ok and all but soon as you try to adjust your pixel density it will look like ass =/
It's all personal prefence. I like the Sense ui, but it really does take up a lot of memory. Using the Advanced Task Manager with Sense I can see when I free up memory, I'll have about 100mb left, meanwhile with the stock rom, clearing out apps, will give me about 190-200mb.
Not that it matters, because Android has great Ram management but still for the self conscience ones it bothers them.
i like virtuous because its nice and fast enough for me
Nice little basic write up.
My first ROM to ever flash was the CM V6.1.0-RC4, and I found the GAPPS, after much researching.
I kinda like that way I have stuff set up after 3 days of permroot, and flashing this ROM, so I don't know if I need to test the waters and see about the Virtuous.
I've never had the delay on wake-ups, and the start up time beats the hell out of stock.
I love waking my phone up from the track pad, that was always weird to me having to hit the power key twice to unlock on stock.
BillY
Both roms are VERY good roms. I personally switch back and forth here and there for the fun of it. But my personal favorite would have to be CM. Virtous isnt too far behind it though.
Sense or no sense thats the difference. The only difference imo.
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i go with virtuos because
1.FM radio
2.friends streams
3.news streams
4.full size stock
5. looks good
6.heard CM rom eat battery like crazy
G1_enthusiast said:
i go with virtuos because
1.FM radio
6.heard CM rom eat battery like crazy
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I'd just like to point out that CM has implemented an FM Radio app in the later builds, and battery life could not be better (18 hours under normal use for me).
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G1_enthusiast said:
i go with virtuos because
1.FM radio
2.friends streams
3.news streams
4.full size stock
5. looks good
6.heard CM rom eat battery like crazy
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Plus
Virtuous pros:
->Updating is a breeze.. I love the patches, unlike CM that you need to download huge file plus google apps and wipe every time update is around.
->I think there is more camera/video function on the virtuous.
->I love the hidden top taskbar.. multitasking is made easy.
->Built in Titanium back up
->Built in QuickOffice
->Did I say.. DLNA?
...---- You can output your pictures, videos and music to your TV.. how cool is that.
->When you hold and press power button, it gives you so many power related choices.
->Built in, SMS, MMS widget
->Register to HTC sense and when your phone is stolen, you can locate it.
->Much better car panel.
->I love the wheel like GUI when you adjust time/alarm... it is so much easier.
->'Clock' , has many functions.. Timer/Stop watch/world Clock....
->The clock + weather widget.. your screen rains/clouds/etc depending on the weather.
->Flip the phone while ringing and it will silent it.. very good function during meetings.
->I think it rings louder when it is inside your pocket.
->It has it's own navigation app.. It downloaded something on my first use... I think that's the local map loaded in your phone. You could probably still use navigation without data connection.
->FM radio is already stated above.
Virtuous cons:
->no built in swype yet
CM pros:
->unlike virtuous, you can put to phone to 'silent' so easily
->And, I have used CM for a long time.. could be that I am just used to it.
none of the ROMS have built in swype.
convolution said:
none of the ROMS have built in swype.
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I might be wrong but i think pauls rom does have swype also the vinilla villian or somthing like that. Anyway you can add swype to any of them pretty easy.
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Both great ROMS
I think that they are both great ROMs. I keep going from one to the other as soon as a new revision comes out. I do think that Virtuous could use the silent option in the power options, a percentage indicator when charging, and the auto rotate when in the home screen. Other than that, both ROMs ROCK!
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I think that they are both great ROMs. I keep going from one to the other as soon as a new revision comes out. I do think that Virtuous could use the silent option in the power options, a percentage indicator when charging, and the auto rotate when in the home screen. Other than that, both ROMs ROCK!
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I generally use Battery Watcher for power percentage (shows it even when charging). Virtuous does have a silent option in the power options thing and also rotates now.
I use a sense based virtuous rom with launcher pro since I like the HTC apps (not so much the widgets). Uploading to facebook via gallery could not be easier and better managed. Also, the HTC camera app is really good! HTC sms app lags a little when I have over 400 messages to load and the contacts app lacks a filter.
HTC apps are the only thing holding me back from going CM
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I think they are both excellent roms however I don't care for all the dev added stuff. Its like t mobile only with the developers marks all over the place. Personally I use Enomther's rom and will always recommend him over any other. Stable, added optional goodies and lightning fast everything anyone could want. As far as sense roms go I would use EvilD'S mt4g rom as its amazing!
So I have this problem, where I cannot for the life of me stick to a stinkin ROM type. AOSP or Sense. And since I am a fan of Sense 1.0 and until just recently there has been no good gingerbread roms using it ive had to try almost all the 2.1/3.0 ROMS. None which I like. Our phone is just too slow to handle it well (IMO).
So, does anyone else have this indecisive behavior? If you do what do you find yourself on most of the time? Sense, or AOSP?
AOSP / CM7.
I found that all my indecisiveness was cured with themeing my phone.
Used Launcher Pro instead of the cruddy default launcher that CM7 uses, I used android kitchen (http://uot.dakra.lt/kitchen/) to theme my status bar, drop down and icons in the status bar- and I used a couple more themeing widgets and apps found from people at http://mycolorscreen.com/category/android/
Also I changed the dock background to a better looking one and I moved around the icons in Launcher Pro so that it'd be simpler to click on them quickly (like the phone icon).
I think the key is to find a stable yet up-to-date ROM, then mod the crap outta it until you really love it, then don't update it unless you really want to (like a new version of android comes out). I'm not planning on upgrading my CM7 unless android has a new release, which may be a few months.
POQbum said:
AOSP / CM7.
I found that all my indecisiveness was cured with themeing my phone.
Used Launcher Pro instead of the cruddy default launcher that CM7 uses, I used android kitchen (http://uot.dakra.lt/kitchen/) to theme my status bar, drop down and icons in the status bar- and I used a couple more themeing widgets and apps found from people at http://mycolorscreen.com/category/android/
Also I changed the dock background to a better looking one and I moved around the icons in Launcher Pro so that it'd be simpler to click on them quickly (like the phone icon).
I think the key is to find a stable yet up-to-date ROM, then mod the crap outta it until you really love it, then don't update it unless you really want to (like a new version of android comes out). I'm not planning on upgrading my CM7 unless android has a new release, which may be a few months.
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Yeah but the problem I find with AOSP is that it indeed feels so half baked to me. Like there is no K9 dialing? WTH. (It's coming, some guy built it and is going to submit it to review, but still, it hasnt had this???) The browser is sooo much slower graphically. Flash is useless.
But it's so clean. And fast. never freezes.
And themes, eh they never feel complete either. Just my opinion. Thanks for sharing yours!
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Yeah but the problem I find with AOSP is that it indeed feels so half baked to me. Like there is no K9 dialing? WTH. (It's coming, some guy built it and is going to submit it to review, but still, it hasnt had this???) The browser is sooo much slower graphically. Flash is useless.
But it's so clean. And fast. never freezes.
And themes, eh they never feel complete either. Just my opinion. Thanks for sharing yours!
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ah yeah I think you're missing some pieces. If you want T9 dialing then there are "dialer" apps out there. Go Dialer I think was one of the better ones, but I still prefer stock (no T9 smart dialing but I'm ok with it)
You don't have to use prepackaged themes, really you can theme your phone into anything you're looking for. There are apps, widgets and modifications to do it, if you need any hints on which apps and places to go I can let you know. I don't even know what browser comes with CM7, I always uninstall. Dolphin Mini Browser has always been my favorite.
I think you are looking at only what is presented with the ROM, you can really exchange/modify most things in any rooted ROM pretty easily.
and I don't mean to try and sell you on a particular ROM, I just want to make sure you know what's possible and what's out there
OP, you must be a REAL flash-o-holic. I just tried CM7.1... again... on my Tbolt and I can't STAND it. CM doesn't seem any faster on my dInc or my Tbolt than the Sense 1.0 ROM I had on the dInc or the Sense 3.0 3D ROM on my Tbolt. In fact, it shows more lag on both. It's just not a finished product in my opinion. To relate it to a car...
A good Sense ROM is like the whole package. Everything has been thought out and the right things added and the whole package pretty nicely tied together and polished.
AOSP is kinda like GM just sold you the rolling chassis. Now you gotta put some kind of body on it, something to steer it with, lights, seats, wheels better than the stamped steel crap they rolled off the truck on... It's like a hobby kit of an OS. If someone offered a decent package of widgets for AOSP I might give it more than a half a day on my phone. I just don't have any desire to spend hours of time and money trying to slowly build an AOSP ROM into something that begins to do what I want. If AOSP was my only choice, I'd be back on BlackBerry.
I've been on MIUI as a daily for probably 6 months now, the themeing possibilities with this ROM honestly have gotten rid of any need to crackflash for me. BTW OP, it has T9 stock and a bunch of other great things.
I also tried most of the Sense 3.0 ROMs and couldn't find one that I liked enough to stay for more than about a week (Nils BS3.0 for the record) and most only last a few hours. Just can't beat the smoothness and possibilities that come with MIUI IMO.
i have been using skyraider 4.3 the most, swapped it out recently for CM7 until today i went back, and was super glad i did.
Key features for me are:
-CM7 style dual slider lockscreen
(this is a must because i like to be able to go directly to the dialer or messages, and have instant access to switch the phone to vibrate/ring from the lockscreen)
-stock gingerbread keyboard (not a fan of the sense one)
-quick and stable
-sense dialer
Edit: There is also a skyraider 5.0 in the works, using the new OTA gingerbread framework, though not ETA for that yet
My experience has been that Sense 1.0 ROMs are the most stable and smooth. I liked SkyRaider the best for performance and customization, but now that GB is official it's hard to stay on Froyo. SR 5 is coming, but probably not for a while.
My daily right now is Insensitive-Minimalist 2.1. It has the Sense framework, most of the better Sense Apps, but everything else removed. It's fast and stable, IMHO. It lacks the customizable features in CM, but I can live without those.
I keep a backup of CM7 on my phone for when I want to play emulators with my wii controller, otherwise I hop around on various Sense roms. Really liking the Bliss port that's going on right now.
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OP, you must be a REAL flash-o-holic. I just tried CM7.1... again... on my Tbolt and I can't STAND it. CM doesn't seem any faster on my dInc or my Tbolt than the Sense 1.0 ROM I had on the dInc or the Sense 3.0 3D ROM on my Tbolt. In fact, it shows more lag on both. It's just not a finished product in my opinion. To relate it to a car...
A good Sense ROM is like the whole package. Everything has been thought out and the right things added and the whole package pretty nicely tied together and polished.
AOSP is kinda like GM just sold you the rolling chassis. Now you gotta put some kind of body on it, something to steer it with, lights, seats, wheels better than the stamped steel crap they rolled off the truck on... It's like a hobby kit of an OS. If someone offered a decent package of widgets for AOSP I might give it more than a half a day on my phone. I just don't have any desire to spend hours of time and money trying to slowly build an AOSP ROM into something that begins to do what I want. If AOSP was my only choice, I'd be back on BlackBerry.
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Ah you share my thoughts exactly. Cyanogenmod and the team do a great job of what they do but AOSP to me is like what you said, a chassis on wheels. My favorite ROMs used to be virtuous and skyraider, but I can't go back to froyo now that in on the gingerbread train.
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