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AppleCare: The iPhone 4 Update Won't Solve the Antenna Problem
Well this is just a nice way to come back from a holiday. It seems someone at AppleCare has stated that the iOS 4 update won't solve the antenna issues so many users are complaining about on their new iPhone 4. Apparently it will change the way the antenna indicator calculates bars, but that won't solve what happens when you touch the left lower portion of the antenna.
We'll still call this post a rumor until we see the update to the OS actually working and confirming it as a fact, but according to Gizmodo, they gave AppleCare a call three times today and in these three times they got the same "pretty much read" responses:
• There is an antenna interference problem when you hold the iPhone 4 in a certain way
• One solution is to hold the phone differently, avoiding to touch the left bottom corner of the phone
• The other other solution is to buy a case or one of Apple's $30 bumpers
• The incoming software update will not fix this antenna problem, only change the way the phone displays the available signal, make it more accurate
So much for state of the art industrial design. Don't get me wrong, the concept is cool and I am a big fan of the phone. I just wouldn't call this a break through until Apple can prove it can work. Surely getting a free bumper is a great solution Apple should attend to by giving these away for free, but there are some of us here who simply don't like to carry their phones on cases..
ok what now??
The solution? ahaaaa right, I forget to write the solution
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no no no!
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Yep, it will not work with an update - and Apple is reacting as allways ....
http://blogs.consumerreports.org/el...m-issues-signal-strength-att-network-gsm.html
Discussion on Apple Forums (cached on Bing) http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=co...48&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=6fddb6d,f506f19b
and the typical reaction http://www.tuaw.com/2010/07/12/apple-drops-consumer-reports-discussion-threads-down-memory-hole/
At least my HD2 works
Nice solutions anyway - not as stylish as i would prefer but i guess without any problems

a website posted a solution is to apply a tape on the bottom left corner of the phone covering the gap. anyway, nice photos. i will share them with my frens hehehe

RedDevils88 said:
a website posted a solution is to apply a tape on the bottom left corner of the phone covering the gap. anyway, nice photos. i will share them with my frens hehehe
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but that looks ugly and cheap

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....you get the point

recently i was talking w/ a frind of me about the hd2 (he really wants one and sorfs this forum very often) and we began to talk about the iphone.
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we began talking about the new "features" of the ios 4 (about 2/3 of those "features" are supported by wm/android for ages; the others are useless, like increase digital zoom for the camera). i then took a look on apple's ios4 web site.
for your sanity i advise NOT to take a look on that page, i don't know if i should laugh out loud about what is written on that page or rather bash my head against a wall.
beginning at that "facetime" stuffs (video telephy) that only works when connected to wifi, to the "security measures" and busibess functions, it's all either "wtf lol" or "wft lame" or even both for me.
and in the headline it states "With its easy-to-use interface, amazing features, and rock-solid stability, iOS — Apple’s mobile operating system — is the foundation of iPhone. And even as other phones try to catch up, the technologies and features built into iOS 4 keep it years ahead of the competition". come on.
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We don't own iPhone 4's so why should we care one way or another?
This thread is more than a little pathetic.

Pagnell said:
We don't own iPhone 4's so why should we care one way or another?
This thread is more than a little pathetic.
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even tough i posted here i must say that you are right. we laugh about the iphone/ipad especially if there's a vid on youtube of some guy bashing his ithing with a baseball bat but cry if someone throws his hd2 at a wall .
but we all need some valve.

Available soon, the Apple iWheel(tm)! Apples "Rotational Symetrical Hardware Information Technology " system allows your objects to be moved in spacetime, allowing you the freedom to arrange your surroundings with one easy push.
Apple gives you the power to manipulate obects in ways you never thought possible, allowing you the creativity you need to get ahead. Any other methods of moving matter are relegated into obscurity, as you are so far ahead of evolution people will travel back in time just to be humbled by your superiority as an Apple customer.
Only $499 for all this productivity, and only $49 a month thereafter! "iWheel, the product humans have been waiting for, since Jesus."
*cue 2million mugs cough people emailing apple to get on the iWheel waiting list*

jem85 said:
Available soon, the Apple iWheel(tm)! Apples "Rotational Symetrical Hardware Information Technology "
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I love the acronym you can create from that. Good show mate, good show...

I forgot to put a link to this topic!
http://gizmodo.com/5580587/applecare-the-iphone-4-update-wont-solve-the-antenna-problem
and of course it is not me who write this topic
So much for state of the art industrial design. Don't get me wrong, the concept is cool and I am a big fan of the phone. I just wouldn't call this a break through until Apple can prove it can work. Surely getting a free bumper is a great solution Apple should attend to by giving these away for free, but there are some of us here who simply don't like to carry their phones on cases..
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here is the Nexus S NFC demo from CES

I think NFC has potential

slowz3r said:
I think NFC has potential
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only if it survives the launch time
it'll be a nice try,
since they failed at the same strategy with bluetooth, back then marketing people were also planning the same thing with bluetooth but in the end it failed
too much security hassle and issues with prevention, etc, etc
if NFC wants to survive, better make it clear to the people it's not used to suck data out of your phone, but just to pick up data from stuff

AllGamer said:
only if it survives the launch time
it'll be a nice try,
since they failed at the same strategy with bluetooth, back then marketing people were also planning the same thing with bluetooth but in the end it failed
too much security hassle and issues with prevention, etc, etc
if NFC wants to survive, better make it clear to the people it's not used to suck data out of your phone, but just to pick up data from stuff
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as always people are turned off by new things,
I think security with NFC is allot better than RFID, anyone with the right equipment and a lil cash can eavsdrop on people who have Bluetooth enabled on their cell phones, and with RFID its the same way.
I think the short range of NFC is a big security factor, I mean if you dont notice someone rubbing something on your ass you deserve to get money stolen from you

The fact that you have to tap the pad to get it to work is good for security. That means it won't read through your pockets. +1 there.
Unfortunately because America is so slow to take on new technologies, I'm sure we'll all go through one or two new phones each before NFC is actually on the marketplace in public venues on a large scale.

allen099 said:
The fact that you have to tap the pad to get it to work is good for security. That means it won't read through your pockets. +1 there.
Unfortunately because America is so slow to take on new technologies, I'm sure we'll all go through one or two new phones each before NFC is actually on the marketplace in public venues on a large scale.
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All it takes is one company to put NFC tags in their products, for example a movie poster or what have you, pretty sure its the same company that produces those cardboard cut outs for movies,

slowz3r said:
I think the short range of NFC is a big security factor, I mean if you dont notice someone rubbing something on your ass you deserve to get money stolen from you
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LMAO !!!
good one
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slowz3r said:
All it takes is one company to put NFC tags in their products, for example a movie poster or what have you, pretty sure its the same company that produces those cardboard cut outs for movies,
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yup, movies poster and magazines are the best way to launch NFC into full stream

AllGamer said:
LMAO !!!
good one
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Its the truth Not going to lie, but if sat in a starbucks and peeled info from peoples bluetooth enabled cellphones, i never did anything with the data i got but it was a learning experience and once you get the process down its easy
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yup, movies poster and magazines are the best way to launch NFC into full stream
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Yup, I really wish I could find a place in CA that something with NFC tags just so i can test it

slowz3r said:
as always people are turned off by new things,
I think security with NFC is allot better than RFID, anyone with the right equipment and a lil cash can eavsdrop on people who have Bluetooth enabled on their cell phones, and with RFID its the same way.
I think the short range of NFC is a big security factor, I mean if you dont notice someone rubbing something on your ass you deserve to get money stolen from you
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Are you trying to be funny? Do you realize a lot of people live in big cities and rely on public transportation and usually during rush hrs the buses, metro, trains are packed where people ride like canned sardines. I bet them deserve to have their money stolen too according to you. Or may be you just can't realize that the rest of the world don't or can't afford 1 car per person nor able to enjoy the space you have.

greenstuffs said:
Are you trying to be funny? Do you realize a lot of people live in big cities and rely on public transportation and usually during rush hrs the buses, metro, trains are packed where people ride like canned sardines. I bet them deserve to have their money stolen too according to you.
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IF you wanna put it like that then yes. but you are obviously missing my point.
credit cards, cell phones and other devices are much less secure than an NFC device would be when you compare the range

greenstuffs said:
Are you trying to be funny? Do you realize a lot of people live in big cities and rely on public transportation and usually during rush hrs the buses, metro, trains are packed where people ride like canned sardines. I bet them deserve to have their money stolen too according to you. Or may be you just can't realize that the rest of the world don't or can't afford 1 car per person nor able to enjoy the space you have.
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and a nfc on/off widget would solve that

tomqman said:
and a nfc on/off widget would solve that
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We can turn it on/off in the Wireless & Network Settings . i'm sure creating a widget is pretty easy for this. For now I've got mine off so it doesn't waste additional battery (I don't know the effects it has yet).

1st commercial by Samsung for the S2

"Samsung Mobile" (from Facebook) just posted the 1st add for the Galaxy s2 on YouTube:
It can't be too much longer folks!
If only the phne truly was waterproof like the advertisment.

Samsung logo, here it is

Yep, that was posted a few days back in another thread. Looks nice and sexy.

It was leaked a few days ago but now we've got it from Samsung Mobile directly, so that's a good sign indeed!

Whatever you do,whenever you purchase SGS 2
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if the little girl wasn't blonde she wouldn't put the phone in the water.

HaHaHa... Here We Go With The Blonde Jokes...
Epic.....

As much as I love the phone.. This ad is the worse iv ever seen.

RedBlueGreen said:
As much as I love the phone.. This ad is the worse iv ever seen.
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May I ask why?

XDA mark said:
May I ask why?
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Do you know those Red Bull commercials that "supposed give you wings"?
What if one of those commercials had a young kid jump off a building thinking he could fly?
Ok, maybe bad analogy but this commercial will have naive people thinking this phone is water-proof.
There are other ways to show the the brilliant display without confusing people and thinking what may or may not damage the phone

rwc3b said:
Do you know those Red Bull commercials that "supposed give you wings"?
What if one of those commercials had a young kid jump off a building thinking he could fly?
Ok, maybe bad analogy but this commercial will have naive people thinking this phone is water-proof.
There are other ways to show the the brilliant display without confusing people and thinking what may or may not damage the phone
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I see your point. I hope most people see the text during the commercial that it is not waterproof xD
My first thought about the commercial was that it was original and funny.

XDA mark said:
I see your point. I hope most people see the text during the commercial that it is not waterproof xD
My first thought about the commercial was that it was original and funny.
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I thought so too. Very original and humble, in my opinion.
Don't laugh but my first thought right when she dumped it in the fishbowl was.."so this isn't like the water marks of the iPhone? It doesn't void warranty? It can actually survive minor water accidents?"
Again, don't laugh.

android_master said:
Whatever you do,whenever you purchase SGS 2
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LMAO!! definitely....
and please keep it away from childrens

Nice commercial; they're realizing that the average consumer doesn't need to be blown away by specs and CG graphics to buy the product. I hope they make more that showcase the qualities of the phone but they are heading in the right direction.
I fail to see how Moto continuously makes the spec oriented adds for the Xoom when Apple is winning the hearts of many with it's emotionally attached and "awe inspiring" commercials of the iPad 2.

FLAC Vest said:
Nice commercial; they're realizing that the average consumer doesn't need to be blown away by specs and CG graphics to buy the product. I hope they make more that showcase the qualities of the phone but they are heading in the right direction.
I fail to see how Moto continuously makes the spec oriented adds for the Xoom when Apple is winning the hearts of many with it's emotionally attached and "awe inspiring" commercials of the iPad 2.
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well that's kinda simple...
the Tech oriented commercials are trying to attract the geeky / nerdy cloud of consumers (Us here people on forums)
the Awe, Cute, Funny, Nice, etc type commercials are aimed to the regular home user that knows nothing about the phone, they just want something that looks great, and works, and fully packed with features they don't even use.
and Samsung is doing well in the 2nd type of commercials

This is .. The worst ad ever !! The worst ad ever !!

AllGamer said:
well that's kinda simple...
the Tech oriented commercials are trying to attract the geeky / nerdy cloud of consumers (Us here people on forums)
the Awe, Cute, Funny, Nice, etc type commercials are aimed to the regular home user that knows nothing about the phone, they just want something that looks great, and works, and fully packed with features they don't even use.
and Samsung is doing well in the 2nd type of commercials
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I know this, but as you can see with the sales numbers, the Xoom isn't selling THAT well. People are quick to forget that "we" make up a small percentage of the market and that isn't where companies need to advertise.
Think about it, how many people who actually know what those specs mean wouldn't already know about the Xoom? The point of a commercial isn't to advertise to your target audience (of course it is, in a way) because we are already "sold".
With new products like these, they should be going for the average Co sumer, one who doesn't know about the tablet and is wondering why they should get that over the iPaD.
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FLAC Vest said:
With Jew products like these
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I really hope that was a typo...

k1000716 said:
I really hope that was a typo...
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I think/hope he ment new...

Edited ; meant new, sorry about that; I don't type as much on my phone anymore, nor do I proof read my posts.
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Way to go Google :(

http://www.androidcentral.com/googl...mpaign=Feed:+androidcentral+(Android+Central)

Guess ill have to go back to stealing DVDs from Walmart.

MASSIVE epic fail

Except there isn't any phone support yet? The only device they could base this off of is the Motorola Xoom. I'm waiting until Google officially gives the ability to watch on my phone before believing this. And if this is true, back to Netflix and movie download sites it is.

xfullmetal17 said:
Except there isn't any phone support yet? The only device they could base this off of is the Motorola Xoom. I'm waiting until Google officially gives the ability to watch on my phone before believing this. And if this is true, back to Netflix and movie download sites it is.
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It's nice to be positive but this is just another step that has been taken lately that brings the likely end to support for "openness"

that's ok google, i'll just stream my dish network service to my phone for a one time fee and be able to watch the same channels i have at home for no additional cost.

I have netflix and hulu i'll be fine. I'm not that much of a movie watcher

Oh puhlease. Like this won't be hacked-in within a week. Hell, Vegas probably has odds on when.

I think you guys are missing the point.
Yeah, there many be alternatives to this specific service, but if this stands up it says that Google is no longer interested in openness.

People have been saying it's the movie companies pressuring Google. My question is why, since rooting alone doesn't mean you can bypass the payment service with Android Market. They'd still get their money.

mattykinsx said:
I think you guys are missing the point.
Yeah, there many be alternatives to this specific service, but if this stands up it says that Google is no longer interested in openness.
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Good. Death to "openness" and fragmentation. Lets the this OS on the right path so we wont have to jump through flames just get the "perfect" experience.
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I'm willing to bet they had to do something to make the mpaa happy. Google is a company trying to make more money (most companies do that). I can't blame them.
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dirkyd3rk said:
Good. Death to "openness" and fragmentation. Lets the this OS on the right path so we wont have to jump through flames just get the "perfect" experience.
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And as long as I can remove any app I want and have more modifications (say the way cyanogen allows you to)...you and I can agree.
(**** us agreeing? The rapture might actually happen today)

mattykinsx said:
And as long as I can remove any app I want and have more modifications (say the way cyanogen allows you to)...you and I can agree.
(**** us agreeing? The rapture might actually happen today)
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Lol. To honest that's one of the main reasons I root, I can't stand bloatware and not being remove drives me insane.
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dirkyd3rk said:
Lol. To honest that's one of the main reasons I root, I can't stand bloatware and not being remove drives me insane.
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Dont forget notification toggles.
That should be embedded into basic android code.

mattykinsx said:
(**** us agreeing? The rapture might actually happen today)
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I can die happy now. Let the lord cometh. I've seen it all.
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Common sense should tell people that for the movie industry to agree to provide this service to Android, Google had to agree to this.

mattykinsx said:
Dont forget notification toggles.
That should be embedded into basic android code.
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Yeah that to! I could care less about overclocking with a dual core phone. I really just want this OS to take off man its been way too long and I think google needs to get in gear; if they don't windows will catch up and grab a huge chunk of the market shares. Im not asking for much but most the features that android is lacking need to be standard, one shouldn't have to root to achieve all these things (the list is long lol). For some strange reason I really feel like when all these wp7 nokia phones come out it will give them a huge jump! Everyone knows Nokia always had ****ty software but hardware is unsurpassed. Honestly, I think google needs to hit android with some more design that uses hardware acceleration or something different from the plain aosp look. Im not talking sense, or other flavors I hate fragmentation, they need to overhaul the design for aosp.
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jayharper08 said:
I can die happy now. Let the lord cometh. I've seen it all.
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Apparently that rapture **** was about to go down, then this happened;
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I think we'll live to drink another day.

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Apparently that rapture **** was about to go down, then this happened;
I think we'll live to drink another day.
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Lmao. That's pretty scary.
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Optional NFC ?

Today I met samsung representative in CPW, who told me that there's no NFC option for galaxy note but it may differ in other countries.
That would alright if it wasn't for engadget article, which clearly states that there's NFC controller inside (NFC controller: NXP PN544).
Does anyone have an idea if it would be possible to use NFC technology if the controller is already inside the device(assuming we'll get ICS)?

I have seen on engadget too.. I think gnote has nfc support maybe with updating ics

That engadget found nfc informations in the firmware does not mean the chip actually is inside the device. Could be available just in another regio...

Engadget just reported what Supercurio mentioned. May be the phone Supercurio got is not UK version. (donno which country he is from)

win.droid said:
Engadget just reported what Supercurio mentioned. May be the phone Supercurio got is not UK version. (donno which country he is from)
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Supercurio does not have the phone.
Currently there is only one version of phone in the market. European version

If the Note does have an NFC chip, wouldn't it be listed in the spec sheet of the user manual? Can someone verify this?

Forget it guys, the EU note don't have nfc, its is only for the korean market, same as LTE

Yep, samsung stripping nfc from another device because " the market in europe isn't ready for nfc". I'm pretty sure the market would grow considerably if you started putting NFC on your devices since most people will go for a 20 month + contract...

No NFC here either even for the prototypes on display (which didn't have the S-Pen even though its listed on the spec sheet.
Pict: http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/4489/samsunggalaxynote.jpg

I have NFC what use that technology will be until there are a lot more devices out there that support it.

NFC Is probably in the battery, if you check the t-mobile sgs2 t989 you can see what i mean! So its just a battery change, and you'll probably have nfc!
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"There’s also NFC support too. We have the strange suspicion that the NFC chip might be integrated into the battery as it carries the NFC sign.
Samsung Galaxy S II T-Mobile
The NFC chip might be hiding inside the battery
Unlike the rest of the Galaxy S II lineup, the NFC on the T-Mobile version is fully functional right out of the box. There is a pre-installed app, called Tags, which utilizes it."

charlie x said:
Yep, samsung stripping nfc from another device because " the market in europe isn't ready for nfc". I'm pretty sure the market would grow considerably if you started putting NFC on your devices since most people will go for a 20 month + contract...
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That's a silly argument that they didn't use for the Galaxy Nexus!
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NFC is greatly catching up in India. There are article coming in newspapers here where various uses of nfc tech are being discussed plus there are various TV ads coming on tv about nokia phones where they show content sharing via nfc. tag line is tap and share. I just dont know what is wrong with samsung they are not able to add a simple piece of tech in their devices not even as large as gnote.
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Looks like we will need to see if there are 4 battery pins on the device. It *could* be for something else, but I doubt it.

Arbition said:
Looks like we will need to see if there are 4 battery pins on the device. It *could* be for something else, but I doubt it.
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There are only three pins on my Euro battery and only three pins on the Note that match up with it.
I think it short sighted of Samsung if customers in Europe cannot upgrade the Note to enable NFC if they want to.
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htc6500uk said:
There are only three pins on my Euro battery and only three pins on the Note that match up with it.
I think it short sighted of Samsung if customers in Europe cannot upgrade the Note to enable NFC if they want to.
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I wouldn't be really bothered about NFC if it wasn't for these official specs.
http://www.samsungmobilepress.com/2011/09/01/GALAXY-Note
It's slightly painful to think that this tech might come handy next year and we won't be able to use it with £600 price tag phone.

Android Beam
With Galaxy Nexus you can now easily share contacts, websites, apps, maps, directions and YouTube videos to other people close by. Simply hold two NFC enabled Android phones close to each other and touch to beam and share.
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Just an example of NFC usage introduced with ICS. It will be the trend set by Google. I wish such an expensive Note will include all the features.

lokto7 said:
Just an example of NFC usage introduced with ICS. It will be the trend set by Google. I wish such an expensive Note will include all the features.
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lol, you were wanting to pay even MORE??

damn
I was looking foward to using google wallet all over

" Does anyone have an idea if it would be possible to use NFC technology if the controller is already inside the device(assuming we'll get ICS)? "
We need 3 things; 1e hardware, this controller and an antena, (secure element not embedded in this controller but only important for payments, and can be added with SIM- or microSD- card.
2e software, ICS not essential, Android 2.3.? supports NFC, just not with Beam app out of the box.
3e business decisions, especially the carrier!
nfc-phones.org ,Joao