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AppleCare: The iPhone 4 Update Won't Solve the Antenna Problem
Well this is just a nice way to come back from a holiday. It seems someone at AppleCare has stated that the iOS 4 update won't solve the antenna issues so many users are complaining about on their new iPhone 4. Apparently it will change the way the antenna indicator calculates bars, but that won't solve what happens when you touch the left lower portion of the antenna.
We'll still call this post a rumor until we see the update to the OS actually working and confirming it as a fact, but according to Gizmodo, they gave AppleCare a call three times today and in these three times they got the same "pretty much read" responses:
• There is an antenna interference problem when you hold the iPhone 4 in a certain way
• One solution is to hold the phone differently, avoiding to touch the left bottom corner of the phone
• The other other solution is to buy a case or one of Apple's $30 bumpers
• The incoming software update will not fix this antenna problem, only change the way the phone displays the available signal, make it more accurate
So much for state of the art industrial design. Don't get me wrong, the concept is cool and I am a big fan of the phone. I just wouldn't call this a break through until Apple can prove it can work. Surely getting a free bumper is a great solution Apple should attend to by giving these away for free, but there are some of us here who simply don't like to carry their phones on cases..
ok what now??
The solution? ahaaaa right, I forget to write the solution
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Yep, it will not work with an update - and Apple is reacting as allways ....
http://blogs.consumerreports.org/el...m-issues-signal-strength-att-network-gsm.html
Discussion on Apple Forums (cached on Bing) http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=co...48&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=6fddb6d,f506f19b
and the typical reaction http://www.tuaw.com/2010/07/12/apple-drops-consumer-reports-discussion-threads-down-memory-hole/
At least my HD2 works
Nice solutions anyway - not as stylish as i would prefer but i guess without any problems

a website posted a solution is to apply a tape on the bottom left corner of the phone covering the gap. anyway, nice photos. i will share them with my frens hehehe

RedDevils88 said:
a website posted a solution is to apply a tape on the bottom left corner of the phone covering the gap. anyway, nice photos. i will share them with my frens hehehe
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but that looks ugly and cheap

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....you get the point

recently i was talking w/ a frind of me about the hd2 (he really wants one and sorfs this forum very often) and we began to talk about the iphone.
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we began talking about the new "features" of the ios 4 (about 2/3 of those "features" are supported by wm/android for ages; the others are useless, like increase digital zoom for the camera). i then took a look on apple's ios4 web site.
for your sanity i advise NOT to take a look on that page, i don't know if i should laugh out loud about what is written on that page or rather bash my head against a wall.
beginning at that "facetime" stuffs (video telephy) that only works when connected to wifi, to the "security measures" and busibess functions, it's all either "wtf lol" or "wft lame" or even both for me.
and in the headline it states "With its easy-to-use interface, amazing features, and rock-solid stability, iOS — Apple’s mobile operating system — is the foundation of iPhone. And even as other phones try to catch up, the technologies and features built into iOS 4 keep it years ahead of the competition". come on.
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We don't own iPhone 4's so why should we care one way or another?
This thread is more than a little pathetic.

Pagnell said:
We don't own iPhone 4's so why should we care one way or another?
This thread is more than a little pathetic.
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even tough i posted here i must say that you are right. we laugh about the iphone/ipad especially if there's a vid on youtube of some guy bashing his ithing with a baseball bat but cry if someone throws his hd2 at a wall .
but we all need some valve.

Available soon, the Apple iWheel(tm)! Apples "Rotational Symetrical Hardware Information Technology " system allows your objects to be moved in spacetime, allowing you the freedom to arrange your surroundings with one easy push.
Apple gives you the power to manipulate obects in ways you never thought possible, allowing you the creativity you need to get ahead. Any other methods of moving matter are relegated into obscurity, as you are so far ahead of evolution people will travel back in time just to be humbled by your superiority as an Apple customer.
Only $499 for all this productivity, and only $49 a month thereafter! "iWheel, the product humans have been waiting for, since Jesus."
*cue 2million mugs cough people emailing apple to get on the iWheel waiting list*

jem85 said:
Available soon, the Apple iWheel(tm)! Apples "Rotational Symetrical Hardware Information Technology "
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I love the acronym you can create from that. Good show mate, good show...

I forgot to put a link to this topic!
http://gizmodo.com/5580587/applecare-the-iphone-4-update-wont-solve-the-antenna-problem
and of course it is not me who write this topic
So much for state of the art industrial design. Don't get me wrong, the concept is cool and I am a big fan of the phone. I just wouldn't call this a break through until Apple can prove it can work. Surely getting a free bumper is a great solution Apple should attend to by giving these away for free, but there are some of us here who simply don't like to carry their phones on cases..
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NFC - McDonald's UK by this summer

The UK already has a big old investment in contactless technology with London's rather successful Oystercard travel scheme, but now the whole Kingdom can get a taste for airborne payments thanks to a new initiative from McDonald's and Visa. The two giants of commerce are uniting to bring NFC tech to all of the former's 1,200 fast food restaurants within the UK, allowing hungry Brits to pay for meals costing up to £15 by simply waving their credit card in front of the till Obi-wan-style. Of course, the real excitement of such large-scale NFC proliferation is in the potential to use those automated tills with your Nexus S (which has an NFC chip built right in) and other devices coming up this year that look set to feature the technology. So yeah, Visa had better be working hard on putting together some mobile apps.
Here's the link:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/24/mcdonalds-to-start-accepting-contactless-visa-payments-in-all-u/
We will probably see more NFC by this summer. I know China just released a new NFC app in the market.
Lets gets this NFC ball rolling....

Thanks for the article. Can't wait to use NFC here in the US. I wonder when Google will unlock the transmit/write feature.

most places that accepts MasterCard NFC should easily be able to be updated to also accept Nexus S

*whistles* I'm Lovin' It.
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If you guys pay close attention to SOME debit swipe checkouts.. you can also see a NFC layout. Mostly at gas stations and super markets. Hopefully all they have to do is update...
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leyvatron said:
If you guys pay close attention to SOME debit swipe checkouts.. you can also see a NFC layout. Mostly at gas stations and super markets. Hopefully all they have to do is update...
Something like this...
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you see these alot in CA i see em all over

Too bad that unless I'm mistaken there isn't a way to have your phone work for that I the states yet
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I'm still unclear on this, actually. I heard that the Nexus S NFC chip is read-only, but I heard from somewhere else that that's a software limitation, not a hardware one. If anyone actually has a definitive answer about that, I'd be interested in hearing it.

zorak950 said:
I'm still unclear on this, actually. I heard that the Nexus S NFC chip is read-only, but I heard from somewhere else that that's a software limitation, not a hardware one. If anyone actually has a definitive answer about that, I'd be interested in hearing it.
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What I remember hearing is that because the chip is just literally plastered into the back of the battery cover it is not as functional as it could be had it been designed into the phone.

that's exactly what i'm talking about
currently many GAS stations and big shot coffe shops are already using it.
but it's only for MasterCards
Visa and the others have not yet started deployment, which is kinda weird
leyvatron said:
If you guys pay close attention to SOME debit swipe checkouts.. you can also see a NFC layout. Mostly at gas stations and super markets. Hopefully all they have to do is update...
Something like this...
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AllGamer said:
that's exactly what i'm talking about
currently many GAS stations and big shot coffe shops are already using it.
but it's only for MasterCards
Visa and the others have not yet started deployment, which is kinda weird
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Ermm... My Visa Virtual Wallet Debit Card supports NFC

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/25/iphone-5-and-ipad-2-will-come-with-nfc-built-in-suggests-well-c/
Looks like iPhone5 and iPad 2 are rumored to have NFC built in. We should definitely see NFC become more mainstream if this is true.

zephiK said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/25/iphone-5-and-ipad-2-will-come-with-nfc-built-in-suggests-well-c/
Looks like iPhone5 and iPad 2 are rumored to have NFC built in. We should definitely see NFC become more mainstream if this is true.
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So we need the iDevices to have the technology before anybody considers it for mass implementation? Sad...

It'd just the reality of it all. No one will invest unless they have a huge amount of people on board, and nexus s won't do that.
We kind of forget to thank the evil apple for a lot of things, for without their phone we wouldn't have companies paying as much attention as they have to the app scene. Especially web apps like internet banking. Before iphone none of the banks here in Australia even bothered with smartphone friendly websites. Then iphone came and they couldn't get their iphone sites up fast enough.

terra_droid said:
So we need the iDevices to have the technology before anybody considers it for mass implementation? Sad...
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No, but NFC will become more mainstream.

zephiK said:
No, but NFC will become more mainstream.
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Although hopefully any NFC schemes are accessible to multiple platforms, otherwise we might see some shops only accepting "iTunes NFC payments"and others "Google NFC payments" and others Visa or Mastercard
Sent from my Nexus One

Lord_Buckington said:
Although hopefully any NFC schemes are accessible to multiple platforms, otherwise we might see some shops only accepting "iTunes NFC payments"and others "Google NFC payments" and others Visa or Mastercard
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Hopefully it'll be a universal system, doesn't seem to make much sense if NFC is only limited to iOS or Android. It'll be Android vs iOS war IRL

1st commercial by Samsung for the S2

"Samsung Mobile" (from Facebook) just posted the 1st add for the Galaxy s2 on YouTube:
It can't be too much longer folks!
If only the phne truly was waterproof like the advertisment.

Samsung logo, here it is

Yep, that was posted a few days back in another thread. Looks nice and sexy.

It was leaked a few days ago but now we've got it from Samsung Mobile directly, so that's a good sign indeed!

Whatever you do,whenever you purchase SGS 2
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if the little girl wasn't blonde she wouldn't put the phone in the water.

HaHaHa... Here We Go With The Blonde Jokes...
Epic.....

As much as I love the phone.. This ad is the worse iv ever seen.

RedBlueGreen said:
As much as I love the phone.. This ad is the worse iv ever seen.
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May I ask why?

XDA mark said:
May I ask why?
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Do you know those Red Bull commercials that "supposed give you wings"?
What if one of those commercials had a young kid jump off a building thinking he could fly?
Ok, maybe bad analogy but this commercial will have naive people thinking this phone is water-proof.
There are other ways to show the the brilliant display without confusing people and thinking what may or may not damage the phone

rwc3b said:
Do you know those Red Bull commercials that "supposed give you wings"?
What if one of those commercials had a young kid jump off a building thinking he could fly?
Ok, maybe bad analogy but this commercial will have naive people thinking this phone is water-proof.
There are other ways to show the the brilliant display without confusing people and thinking what may or may not damage the phone
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I see your point. I hope most people see the text during the commercial that it is not waterproof xD
My first thought about the commercial was that it was original and funny.

XDA mark said:
I see your point. I hope most people see the text during the commercial that it is not waterproof xD
My first thought about the commercial was that it was original and funny.
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I thought so too. Very original and humble, in my opinion.
Don't laugh but my first thought right when she dumped it in the fishbowl was.."so this isn't like the water marks of the iPhone? It doesn't void warranty? It can actually survive minor water accidents?"
Again, don't laugh.

android_master said:
Whatever you do,whenever you purchase SGS 2
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LMAO!! definitely....
and please keep it away from childrens

Nice commercial; they're realizing that the average consumer doesn't need to be blown away by specs and CG graphics to buy the product. I hope they make more that showcase the qualities of the phone but they are heading in the right direction.
I fail to see how Moto continuously makes the spec oriented adds for the Xoom when Apple is winning the hearts of many with it's emotionally attached and "awe inspiring" commercials of the iPad 2.

FLAC Vest said:
Nice commercial; they're realizing that the average consumer doesn't need to be blown away by specs and CG graphics to buy the product. I hope they make more that showcase the qualities of the phone but they are heading in the right direction.
I fail to see how Moto continuously makes the spec oriented adds for the Xoom when Apple is winning the hearts of many with it's emotionally attached and "awe inspiring" commercials of the iPad 2.
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well that's kinda simple...
the Tech oriented commercials are trying to attract the geeky / nerdy cloud of consumers (Us here people on forums)
the Awe, Cute, Funny, Nice, etc type commercials are aimed to the regular home user that knows nothing about the phone, they just want something that looks great, and works, and fully packed with features they don't even use.
and Samsung is doing well in the 2nd type of commercials

This is .. The worst ad ever !! The worst ad ever !!

AllGamer said:
well that's kinda simple...
the Tech oriented commercials are trying to attract the geeky / nerdy cloud of consumers (Us here people on forums)
the Awe, Cute, Funny, Nice, etc type commercials are aimed to the regular home user that knows nothing about the phone, they just want something that looks great, and works, and fully packed with features they don't even use.
and Samsung is doing well in the 2nd type of commercials
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I know this, but as you can see with the sales numbers, the Xoom isn't selling THAT well. People are quick to forget that "we" make up a small percentage of the market and that isn't where companies need to advertise.
Think about it, how many people who actually know what those specs mean wouldn't already know about the Xoom? The point of a commercial isn't to advertise to your target audience (of course it is, in a way) because we are already "sold".
With new products like these, they should be going for the average Co sumer, one who doesn't know about the tablet and is wondering why they should get that over the iPaD.
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FLAC Vest said:
With Jew products like these
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I really hope that was a typo...

k1000716 said:
I really hope that was a typo...
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I think/hope he ment new...

Edited ; meant new, sorry about that; I don't type as much on my phone anymore, nor do I proof read my posts.
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Google Glass... in class ;)

Wrote up a little blog post about Google Glass in my college classes. It's pretty dang useful, actually.
I've heard plenty of complaints about the camera on the device, but it seems to be able to get the projector screen just fine:
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Useful for when I need to get something copied verbatim
More pics and my write up: http://okaysass.com/posts/14-03-13-google-glass-in-the-classroom
Anyone else using Glass in class?

Yeah, I use them in class all the time for the exact same purpose. It's awesome I can focus on listening and understanding, not copying content.
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ok this is a pretty good idea. still not sure if they're still worth the purchase overall. any other tips or tricks you suggest for these glasses?

pixel7474 said:
ok this is a pretty good idea. still not sure if they're still worth the purchase overall. any other tips or tricks you suggest for these glasses?
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Working on a post for that! Currently, I would say no though. Especially since we're getting closer to launch every day

classroom, batterylife
Jaxbot said:
Anyone else using Glass in class?
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Yupp! (or about to be in 5-7 business days)
KillerBeaver said:
Yeah, I use them in class all the time for the exact same purpose. It's awesome I can focus on listening and understanding, not copying content.
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I have 2 questions.
1.How good is the battery life in terms of recording? (and in general)
2.How did your school (teachers students and especially administration) react to glass?
My school is really tech friendly and open minded so I'm not to worried, however that is in high contrast to my previous school who would have most likely banned the use of glass (they wouldn't care what it actually did, and they wouldn't listen to logic). I am finishing up my last year of high school so I know colleges are more open but it would still be nice to know your feedback.
pixel7474 said:
ok this is a pretty good idea. still not sure if they're still worth the purchase overall. any other tips or tricks you suggest for these glasses?
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Glass is most definitely not worth $1500 for the practical application (unless you are just rich), I bought it to be part of the explorer team and be on the "inside group" of tech, while I can't say how much it benefits my life yet, I really doubt it benefits me 5 times as much as my nexus 5 (which is $300). I think it will need a good range of applications and a cheaper price before I would buy it as a consumer, however I'm optimistic that that will happen.

tech.central said:
Yupp! (or about to be in 5-7 business days)
I have 2 questions.
1.How good is the battery life in terms of recording? (and in general)
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Recording you can get ~45 minutes, but it'll get really hot. It's specifically designed to make recording long videos difficult, for privacy reasons. (Well, so they say )
2.How did your school (teachers students and especially administration) react to glass?
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It's the University of Central Florida, so I don't have my old highschool admins breathing down my neck They would've nailed me in a hardbeat, no doubt, but they also banned the possession of electronic devices, and would commonly announce that "ipads, iphones, phones, and xboxes need to be turned off and stowed away". Ah, MHS.
Glass is most definitely not worth $1500 for the practical application (unless you are just rich), I bought it to be part of the explorer team and be on the "inside group" of tech, while I can't say how much it benefits my life yet, I really doubt it benefits me 5 times as much as my nexus 5 (which is $300). I think it will need a good range of applications and a cheaper price before I would buy it as a consumer, however I'm optimistic that that will happen.
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Correct. It's not worth its current price. But I tend not to think about it that way. If you have money to blow that you wouldn't spend elsewhere, then it's worth it. You really shouldn't try to apply logic to an impulse buy, it'll just make you feel bad about it

Jaxbot said:
It's the University of Central Florida
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Woah! Another UCF Knight. Would love to meet up and talk Glass. I'm more an iOS developer, but got Glass because it looks like something that'd be fun to hack around with.

frostincredible said:
Woah! Another UCF Knight. Would love to meet up and talk Glass. I'm more an iOS developer, but got Glass because it looks like something that'd be fun to hack around with.
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Small world! Sup. What classes are you in? I'm in CS1 and OOP, being the first year I am, but I'm pretty easy to find. Would love to chat!

Jaxbot said:
Small world! Sup. What classes are you in? I'm in CS1 and OOP, being the first year I am, but I'm pretty easy to find. Would love to chat!
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Even smaller world, I clicked your Twitter link only to find out that you commented on the post I put on UCF's CS Facebook page. I am the one that posted the "Glass is available for a day" post! I'm also first year, but haven't taken CS1 yet. I'm currently in OOP though, which class are you in? I'm 2:30 M/W/F with Whiting.

frostincredible said:
Even smaller world, I clicked your Twitter link only to find out that you commented on the post I put on UCF's CS Facebook page. I am the one that posted the "Glass is available for a day" post! I'm also first year, but haven't taken CS1 yet. I'm currently in OOP though, which class are you in? I'm 2:30 M/W/F with Whiting.
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Ha, so you're right! Small world indeed. And yeah, I'm in Whiting's class. But I stopped going last week; my grade is too high in that class to justify listening to her go on and on about IDEs and ActionListeners.

Jaxbot said:
Ha, so you're right! Small world indeed. And yeah, I'm in Whiting's class. But I stopped going last week; my grade is too high in that class to justify listening to her go on and on about IDEs and ActionListeners.
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Lol, true. I pretty much stopped going after she said the last test had some of the worst grades and I sat there like "But I got a 100..." so I deemed it worthless to go anymore.

Smartwear radiation

Hello,
I'm just curious,what are potential health hazzards wearing all this smartwear 24/7 like smartband? It's bluetooth tech but is laying totally on the skin. And all this area(wifi,bluetooth...) of potential problems is totally grey...

MartiniWisdom said:
Hello,
I'm just curious,what are potential health hazzards wearing all this smartwear 24/7 like smartband? It's bluetooth tech but is laying totally on the skin. And all this area(wifi,bluetooth...) of potential problems is totally grey...
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You're joking right?
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No, I wanna hear others what they think. Don't wanna find a bump in my wrist after 5years of wearing smartband 24/7...

MartiniWisdom said:
No, I wanna hear others what they think. Don't wanna find a bump in my wrist after 5years of wearing smartband 24/7...
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First: there are not smartbands with android wear yet.
Second: If you are really concerned about the EM-emission you should go live in the woods. You're surrounded by it anyway, whether you wear a smart device or not. Phones, TV, WIFI routers, telephone signals, microwaves etc etc. You know where this is going. The power of the bluetooth connection is incredibly small compared to the power eg microwaves give out. In our modern world you can't protect yourself against this kind of radiation. Maybe wear a tinfoil hat.
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And all this area(wifi,bluetooth...) of potential problems is totally grey...
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Why do you think that? wireless transmission exists since 1896 and there hasn't been a single case where someone got ill from it.

I have smartband SWR10. But you're right, wrong subforum apparently, not android wear..
Don't be so cinical. You would shurely like to put me in a "Chemtrails bucket" but please don't. Currently there are no evidence that prolong exposure to routers and bluetooth is causing illness. And so is the opposite, there are no evidence that prolong exposure to routers and bluetooth is not causing illness because people do get seriously ill... Microwaves do radiate but we are using them rarely(I cook very often so don't need microwave often), on wifi router I'm not sitting, so am not sitting on mobile phone or carrying it in my pocket, also with TV there is a distance over 3m... This bluetooth is in use all the time and totally on the skin so maybe it builds up over time in a tissue I know what you are talking about and that all that emiting crap is around us all the time but the strenght of emission do fall with higher distance from the source... Also the air is poluted so yea, you are right but why put more oil on the fire?
As for woods, the day will come when we will all wish to go live in the woods but there will be no woods, just scorched earth or big brader at the other end

MartiniWisdom said:
Currently there are no evidence that prolong exposure to routers and bluetooth is causing illness. And so is the opposite, there are no evidence that prolong exposure to routers and bluetooth is not causing illness because people do get seriously ill
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Hm I really don't like that way of arguing. In my opinion things that haven't been proven don't exist, so yea I don't believe in god because of this either (please don't hate me ^^). So if there is no evidence that it causes illness why think it does? It's hard to prove that they don't cause any harm, because that's kind of the definition. How do you prove the non-existence of something?
I see you point that if things are new there is not enough evidence for either of both opinions but as I said wireless technologies like wlan or bluetooth in our phones / watches / TVs / etc really aren't new anymore. They have been around for quite some time (10+ years for the new ones like bluetooth and way longer for general wireless transmission) and no one found any actual evidence for them being harmful in any way, simply because the power they emit is way too low compared to the energy that is around as all the time anyway. One might as well be frightened of the radioactive emissions from our universe.. I think I made my point here Feel free to think otherwise xD
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As for woods, the day will come when we will all wish to go live in the woods but there will be no woods, just scorched earth or big brader at the other end
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Lets hope not.

I'm not gonna hate you and you again are impleing that with "bucket of believers" thing. Don't do that,god has nothing to do with this and we are closer in thoughts in that subject
Nevertheless, maybe he is sending deep space radiation, who knows, the mass histeria is surelly present...
Just kidding... (on this,I was serious on subject)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2828541

If I were to be worried about anything, it would be the cell networks. I mean think about it, every carrier's network - 2G, 3G and LTE/4G - are constantly coursing through and around you. But in the end, it's totally harmless. We're bombarded with huge ranges of frequencies all day long and there isn't so much as a hint of damage.

this is a joke... right?
this is a joke, right? i mean, the food that you eat is more likely to cause you harm than Bluetooth LE, or radio waves for that matter.

The most of food that I eat is mine and is home grown in country side

I'm mostly worried about solar radiation. That sh*t hurts.

johnus said:
I'm mostly worried about solar radiation. That sh*t hurts.
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lul. and don't forget the radioactive food

I'm mostly worried about people don't giving a sh*it... And consumers that change their phones every few months,waste manufacturers... pompose people that think they are so smart and cool... and junk food which they think is healthy... Luulzzz. Loulz. Lel. Lol.

My wrist started to grow a vagina. It's right where the pins touch my skin

fr0st420 said:
My wrist started to grow a vagina. It's right where the pins touch my skin
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How does it taste?

fr0st420 said:
My wrist started to grow a vagina. It's right where the pins touch my skin
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I'd be more worried about the smell...

stombie18 said:
I'd be more worried about the smell...
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Rofl

OK, interest thread and solved my problem :angel:

fr0st420 said:
My wrist started to grow a vagina. It's right where the pins touch my skin
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Your wrist and I should hang out some time :good:
(To several posters in general)
The OP does have a legitimate question and shouldn't be written off as a nut for asking it. Too often people grow to just 'accept' things based on fuzzy logic, group consensus, and leave it at that. This is not the way to live and learn any thing. Fact is, there are mounds of people with health issues that didn't begin until their living environments became grotesquely overrun with these emissions. People who sold their homes, moved, and report remarkable feelings of well being since. They have no agenda other than feeling better. These people were all written off as crazy as well.
And this fuzzy logic about us being bombarded constantly by networks around us? Outer space? Lovely. That does nothing to attest to 'proximity' and 'intensity' or how they relate. Then people go on to mix examples of ionizing radiation with non-ionizing radiation. You couldn't come to less of a scientific conclusion if you tried and you made fun of someone in the process. And while the majority of the studies on the matter have proven inconsistent results, that does not equivocate to insanity for considering it.
Fact is, if non-ionizing radiation is harmless in your mind; Go remove your microwave door, rig the safety switch, and have a meal on me. Which leads me to the SAR rating for microwave emission exposure, which was completely disregarded here. As people hurl 'you're crazy' around and allow more and more wireless devices into their proximity you compound your overall exposure rate.
If the OP want's a specific answer; We don't know. Use at your own risk.